Re: [h-cost] Wal-Mart fabrics ........1 reason why their goingout..(imho)

2008-08-08 Thread otsisto
My local Super Wally Worlds (we have 3) used to carry 90% good to excellent
fabric, then they decided to phase it out 2 years ago. So when the they ran
into opposition they started to carry more crap fabric. This ploy was to
discourage customers to go elsewhere so that they can eliminate the fabric
department. Most of the fabric sales people at my WWs are friendly and
knowledgeable.

De

-Original Message-
Could it be the fact that they carry crap fabric in all the Walmarts perhaps
be the reason, _why_ they are not profitable?
  Also that the people employed in the dept.are not fabric savvy?
  My local Walmart (la habra,Calif) has a woman who works there ,Rosetta,who
literally layed across the cutting table because she was tired of cutting my
order.I was making it very easy by purchasing the entire bolt,of most of the
fabrics, and ordering 10 yrd increments of the ones I didn't purchase in
toto.
  With employees like this who state "Aren't you done yet?" when you're
trying to buy cloth, can run it into the ground.
  Plus buying only 1970 reject neon print polyester knits, doesn't make for
a core of saleable merchandise. that is not even fit for the $1 table.
  Too bad,better fabric, more savvy people could give JoAnns a run for their
money, as my JoAnn's has turned into a craft store with fabric as a side
line.
  Melody

otsisto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  The fabric department issue has been around long before Martha. Wal-Mart
goes by the bottom line, their reasoning is that "for the amount of time
that it takes for a sales person to cut and measure the fabric, in the
electronics department would have sold three items".
Besides, Martha doesn't seem to be the kind of person to make such a
request. Wally just picked their least profitable department (in their eyes)

De

-Original Message-
Anyone see the ad on tv that Martha Stewart is now selling her wares in
Walmart? Wonder if that was part of her "deal", to get rid of the fabric
department to make room for her merchandise. Just speculating, don't shoot
me! :)

Cactus

Mercy sakes, I hope not - already have to fight with Himself to go to
Kmart for something, just because he despises Martha so much. If we
can't go to Walmart either, that means a 300+mile round trip to a mall

Liadain



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Re: [h-cost] Wal-Mart fabrics ........1 reason why their going out..(imho)

2008-08-08 Thread Ron Carnegie
  I gave up on Walmart years ago.  There is never anyone around to cut the
fabric. That's probably part of why they are losing sales.  

Ron Carnegie



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Melody Watts
Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 7:23 PM
To: Historical Costume
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Wal-Mart fabrics 1 reason why their going
out..(imho)

Could it be the fact that they carry crap fabric in all the Walmarts perhaps
be the reason, _why_ they are not profitable?
  Also that the people employed in the dept.are not fabric savvy?
  My local Walmart (la habra,Calif) has a woman who works there ,Rosetta,who
literally layed across the cutting table because she was tired of cutting my
order.I was making it very easy by purchasing the entire bolt,of most of the
fabrics, and ordering 10 yrd increments of the ones I didn't purchase in
toto.
  With employees like this who state "Aren't you done yet?" when you're
trying to buy cloth, can run it into the ground.
  Plus buying only 1970 reject neon print polyester knits, doesn't make for
a core of saleable merchandise. that is not even fit for the $1 table.
  Too bad,better fabric, more savvy people could give JoAnns a run for their
money, as my JoAnn's has turned into a craft store with fabric as a side
line.
  Melody

otsisto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  The fabric department issue has been around long before Martha. Wal-Mart
goes by the bottom line, their reasoning is that "for the amount of time
that it takes for a sales person to cut and measure the fabric, in the
electronics department would have sold three items".
Besides, Martha doesn't seem to be the kind of person to make such a
request. Wally just picked their least profitable department (in their eyes)

De

-Original Message-
Anyone see the ad on tv that Martha Stewart is now selling her wares in
Walmart? Wonder if that was part of her "deal", to get rid of the fabric
department to make room for her merchandise. Just speculating, don't shoot
me! :)

Cactus

Mercy sakes, I hope not - already have to fight with Himself to go to
Kmart for something, just because he despises Martha so much. If we
can't go to Walmart either, that means a 300+mile round trip to a mall

Liadain



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Re: [h-cost] Wal-Mart fabric dept.

2008-08-08 Thread Wanda Pease
Driven all the independent fabric stores out of business within a fair sized
radius by low-balling them and now THEY go out of the Fabric business?
Seems typical.  Drive all other possible competition out and leave room only
for the cheap, Chinese stuff, made by people earning cents an hour with few
safety features, less health regulations, and outlawed unions.  This tends
to make the $1.00 a yard stuff too expensive.  Particularly if you are an
unemployed fabric maker in the Carolinas.  Might as well send .50 to China
and .50 to the Walton family.

I think I'll continue to praise the Powers that Be that Wal-Mart hasn't
succeeded in taking over Portland and environs (several towns around are
fighting it tooth and nail because of its eventual "buy from us or die"
strategy.  Pendleton Wool at $4.99 a yard, linen at less than that if you
know what you are looking for and are ready when the sales come up.

Wanda


>
> Today I was informed that since things have settled down,
> Wal-Mart feels it
> is safe to go ahead with it's plan to get rid of their fabrics.
> New Stores will not have the fabric dept. Some stores will phase out the
> fabric dept. and a few will have 2 and 3 yard pieces for sale.
> I was told at one store that they will no longer be ordering for the $1.00
> table. They have already stopped ordering replacement of many of their non
> sale fabrics, like satin.
> So if you have a Wal-Mart with a fabric department it will probably go bye
> bye by January 2009.
>
> De
>
>

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Re: [h-cost] Wal-Mart fabrics ........1 reason why their going out..(imho)

2008-08-08 Thread Melody Watts
Could it be the fact that they carry crap fabric in all the Walmarts perhaps be 
the reason, _why_ they are not profitable?
  Also that the people employed in the dept.are not fabric savvy?
  My local Walmart (la habra,Calif) has a woman who works there ,Rosetta,who 
literally layed across the cutting table because she was tired of cutting my 
order.I was making it very easy by purchasing the entire bolt,of most of the 
fabrics, and ordering 10 yrd increments of the ones I didn't purchase in toto.
  With employees like this who state "Aren't you done yet?" when you're trying 
to buy cloth, can run it into the ground.
  Plus buying only 1970 reject neon print polyester knits, doesn't make for a 
core of saleable merchandise. that is not even fit for the $1 table.
  Too bad,better fabric, more savvy people could give JoAnns a run for their 
money, as my JoAnn's has turned into a craft store with fabric as a side line.
  Melody

otsisto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  The fabric department issue has been around long before Martha. Wal-Mart
goes by the bottom line, their reasoning is that "for the amount of time
that it takes for a sales person to cut and measure the fabric, in the
electronics department would have sold three items".
Besides, Martha doesn't seem to be the kind of person to make such a
request. Wally just picked their least profitable department (in their eyes)

De

-Original Message-
Anyone see the ad on tv that Martha Stewart is now selling her wares in
Walmart? Wonder if that was part of her "deal", to get rid of the fabric
department to make room for her merchandise. Just speculating, don't shoot
me! :)

Cactus

Mercy sakes, I hope not - already have to fight with Himself to go to
Kmart for something, just because he despises Martha so much. If we
can't go to Walmart either, that means a 300+mile round trip to a mall

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Re: [h-cost] OT: Quick change artists

2008-08-08 Thread Wendi Dunlap

Robin Netherton wrote:
Absolutely amazing. I think -- after replaying multiple times -- that 
the green one unfolds from the shoulders into the blue one, but I can't 
figure out the rest of them, and even with unfolding, I can't imagine 
how you could fit more than two or three in any one garment.


http://home.comcast.net/~x.watermist/Non.html explains how it works.

It's very cool, even if you know the secret. :)

W

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[h-cost] OT: Quick change artists

2008-08-08 Thread Robin Netherton
This is definitely costume, but not historical, so this is OT, but I had to 
show this around. Or am I the last person to know about this? The video has 
been up for a couple of years:


http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=RB-wUgnyGv0

Absolutely amazing. I think -- after replaying multiple times -- that the 
green one unfolds from the shoulders into the blue one, but I can't figure out 
the rest of them, and even with unfolding, I can't imagine how you could fit 
more than two or three in any one garment.


Whatever technology they use, I wonder if it could be used to create a series 
that takes you through time, e.g. decade by decade in the 1900s. (OK, so now 
at least this post is historical.)


--Robin

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Re: [h-cost] Wal-Mart fabrics

2008-08-08 Thread otsisto
The fabric department issue has been around long before Martha. Wal-Mart
goes by the bottom line, their reasoning is that "for the amount of time
that it takes for a sales person to cut and measure the fabric, in the
electronics department would have sold three items".
Besides, Martha doesn't seem to be the kind of person to make such a
request. Wally just picked their least profitable department (in their eyes)

De

-Original Message-
Anyone see the ad on tv that Martha Stewart is now selling her wares in
Walmart?  Wonder if that was part of her "deal", to get rid of the fabric
department to make room for her merchandise.  Just speculating, don't shoot
me!  :)

Cactus

  Mercy sakes, I hope not - already have to fight with Himself to go to
Kmart for something, just because he despises Martha so much. If we
can't go to Walmart either, that means a 300+mile round trip to a mall

Liadain



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Re: [h-cost] walmart fabrics

2008-08-08 Thread otsisto
When the department manager could order the bins at our Walmarts, they would
get in about 60% of the decent to good stuff like 100% raw silk, 100% cotton
brocade, brocades, jaquards...etc. Then when upper management took over and
didn't know what the customer wanted in the fabric section the stuff was 85%
crap. One of the stores still gets in the black fabric for the students.
Wal-Mart says that fewer people sew today but in my town, with two colleges
and one university, 5 different types of reinactment groups, two, soon to be
three high schools (though the 2 -3 yd. pre-cuts would work for them for
their HES/HE class), one children's theatre, Amish, several sororities, and
fraternities, we need more then just Jo Ann's who tends to lean towards the
quilter's and crafters side. New members of SCA who are students can't
always afford Jo Ann's and sometimes cannot wait for the sales. Since more
SCA events are camping, one needs to have more then one outfit so that their
ride to the event will let them ride home with them after the event. :)

De


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but
occasionally you could find some decent cottons at least.

Yes, I found an absolutely wonderful blue and orange plaid cotton once, just
like a turn-of-the-nineteenth century madras.

Ann Wass



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Re: [h-cost] walmart fabrics

2008-08-08 Thread Frank A Thallas Jr

Anyone see the ad on tv that Martha Stewart is now selling her wares in
Walmart?  Wonder if that was part of her "deal", to get rid of the fabric
department to make room for her merchandise.  Just speculating, don't shoot
me!  :)

Cactus

  Mercy sakes, I hope not - already have to fight with Himself to go to
Kmart for something, just because he despises Martha so much. If we
can't go to Walmart either, that means a 300+mile round trip to a mall

Liadain



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Re: [h-cost] walmart fabrics

2008-08-08 Thread annbwass



but
occasionally you could find some decent cottons at least.

Yes, I found an absolutely wonderful blue and orange plaid cotton once, just 
like a turn-of-the-nineteenth century madras.

Ann Wass


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From: Joan Broneske <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 'Historical Costume' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 1:31 pm
Subject: Re: [h-cost] walmart fabrics



Wouldn't surprise me in the least. "Life Celebrations"? Yeah, sounds like a
Martha Stewart kind of label.

It's too bad really. It's not like they had a huge craft section to begin
with, but for people who may not have a regular craft or fabric store near
them (but usually have a Walmart, of course!) it was fine.  Unfortunately,
most of their sale table fabrics were icky, cheap polyester, but
occasionally you could find some decent cottons at least.

I'm sure a lot of it has to do with the target "clientele" and the usual
clientele of the store don't craft a lot or sew, so they are catering to
them. Why make clothes when you can buy Walmart's cheap, *hitty Chinese
clothes!

The Walmart closest to me has a fair-sized craft/fabric section, but the
next closest one to me has no fabric and only a very small crafts section.



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Cactus
Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 9:20 AM
To: Historical Costume
Subject: Re: [h-cost] walmart fabrics

Anyone see the ad on tv that Martha Stewart is now selling her wares in
Walmart?  Wonder if that was part of her "deal", to get rid of the fabric
department to make room for her merchandise.  Just speculating, don't shoot
me!  :)

Cactus


--- On Thu, 8/7/08, Susan Data-Samtak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From: Susan Data-Samtak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [h-cost] walmart fabrics
> To: "Historical Costume" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> D
ate: Thursday, August 7, 2008, 6:57 PM
> The reply to my Walmart messge about Fabrics:
> 
> 
>  >>Thank you for your message.
> 
> Dear Susan,
> 
> Thank you for your recent inquiry regarding the fabric
> department in  
> your local store.  As with any merchandise decision that we
> make, we  
> have based our decision to reduce the stitching and fabric
> departments  
> on customer demand, which does not appear to be as high
> today for a  
> full stitching and fabric offering in some markets as it
> may have been  
> at Wal-Mart in the past.
> 
> In keeping with our emphasis on being a store of the
> community, Wal- 
> Mart is converting the fabrics and crafts department in
> some stores to  
> a newly expanded assortment of merchandise that focuses on
> life's  
> celebrations.  We are thrilled to offer our customers this
> exciting  
> new crafts and celebrations center that makes available
> craft and  
> party planning needs along with information on current
> trends and new  
> ideas in the area of life's celebrations, such as
> holidays, weddings  
> and birthdays.
> 
> In those stores where the new crafts and celebrations
> center is  
> placed, merchandise commonly referred to as
> 'notions' will be included  
> in the product offerings - such as sewing machines, yarn,
> needles,  
> thread, etc.  As a part of this conversion, most of our new
> and  
> remodeled stores that opened earlier this year, as well as
> a small  
> number of existing stores, will feature the new crafts and 
> 
> celebrations center in place of bolt fabrics.  Wal-Mart
> will continue  
> to carry cut fabric in most of our stores.  Due to the
> continued  
> evaluation of our stores, we are unable to share a list of
> existing  
> stores scheduled to receive the new crafts and celebrations
> center at  
> this time.
> 
> Thank you,
> Wal-Mart Customer Relations
>  >
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Re: [h-cost] walmart fabrics

2008-08-08 Thread Dawn

Maggie wrote:

"Crafts and Celebrations" certainly sounds as iof it could be
Martha-related.


I have seen the crafts and celebrations aisle. It's full of simple craft 
items for making invitations, baby shower and wedding tokens, and junk 
like that. I think there may have been some clothing embellishment 
items, like rhinestones and iron on patches.  I went there once over a 
year ago, and haven't been back,  the department didn't impress me. 
Frankly, it looked like the kind of cheap tacky plastic chinese crap 
Martha would turn her nose up at.




Dawn


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Re: [h-cost] walmart fabrics

2008-08-08 Thread Joan Broneske
Wouldn't surprise me in the least. "Life Celebrations"? Yeah, sounds like a
Martha Stewart kind of label.

It's too bad really. It's not like they had a huge craft section to begin
with, but for people who may not have a regular craft or fabric store near
them (but usually have a Walmart, of course!) it was fine.  Unfortunately,
most of their sale table fabrics were icky, cheap polyester, but
occasionally you could find some decent cottons at least.

I'm sure a lot of it has to do with the target "clientele" and the usual
clientele of the store don't craft a lot or sew, so they are catering to
them. Why make clothes when you can buy Walmart's cheap, *hitty Chinese
clothes!

The Walmart closest to me has a fair-sized craft/fabric section, but the
next closest one to me has no fabric and only a very small crafts section.



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Cactus
Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 9:20 AM
To: Historical Costume
Subject: Re: [h-cost] walmart fabrics

Anyone see the ad on tv that Martha Stewart is now selling her wares in
Walmart?  Wonder if that was part of her "deal", to get rid of the fabric
department to make room for her merchandise.  Just speculating, don't shoot
me!  :)

Cactus


--- On Thu, 8/7/08, Susan Data-Samtak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From: Susan Data-Samtak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [h-cost] walmart fabrics
> To: "Historical Costume" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Thursday, August 7, 2008, 6:57 PM
> The reply to my Walmart messge about Fabrics:
> 
> 
>  >>Thank you for your message.
> 
> Dear Susan,
> 
> Thank you for your recent inquiry regarding the fabric
> department in  
> your local store.  As with any merchandise decision that we
> make, we  
> have based our decision to reduce the stitching and fabric
> departments  
> on customer demand, which does not appear to be as high
> today for a  
> full stitching and fabric offering in some markets as it
> may have been  
> at Wal-Mart in the past.
> 
> In keeping with our emphasis on being a store of the
> community, Wal- 
> Mart is converting the fabrics and crafts department in
> some stores to  
> a newly expanded assortment of merchandise that focuses on
> life's  
> celebrations.  We are thrilled to offer our customers this
> exciting  
> new crafts and celebrations center that makes available
> craft and  
> party planning needs along with information on current
> trends and new  
> ideas in the area of life's celebrations, such as
> holidays, weddings  
> and birthdays.
> 
> In those stores where the new crafts and celebrations
> center is  
> placed, merchandise commonly referred to as
> 'notions' will be included  
> in the product offerings - such as sewing machines, yarn,
> needles,  
> thread, etc.  As a part of this conversion, most of our new
> and  
> remodeled stores that opened earlier this year, as well as
> a small  
> number of existing stores, will feature the new crafts and 
> 
> celebrations center in place of bolt fabrics.  Wal-Mart
> will continue  
> to carry cut fabric in most of our stores.  Due to the
> continued  
> evaluation of our stores, we are unable to share a list of
> existing  
> stores scheduled to receive the new crafts and celebrations
> center at  
> this time.
> 
> Thank you,
> Wal-Mart Customer Relations
>  >
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Re: [h-cost] walmart fabrics

2008-08-08 Thread Maggie
"Crafts and Celebrations" certainly sounds as iof it could be
Martha-related.

MaggiRos

On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 9:20 AM, Cactus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Anyone see the ad on tv that Martha Stewart is now selling her wares in
> Walmart?  Wonder if that was part of her "deal", to get rid of the fabric
> department to make room for her merchandise.  Just speculating, don't shoot
> me!  :)
>
>
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Re: [h-cost] walmart fabrics

2008-08-08 Thread Cactus
Anyone see the ad on tv that Martha Stewart is now selling her wares in 
Walmart?  Wonder if that was part of her "deal", to get rid of the fabric 
department to make room for her merchandise.  Just speculating, don't shoot me! 
 :)

Cactus


--- On Thu, 8/7/08, Susan Data-Samtak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From: Susan Data-Samtak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [h-cost] walmart fabrics
> To: "Historical Costume" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Thursday, August 7, 2008, 6:57 PM
> The reply to my Walmart messge about Fabrics:
> 
> 
>  >>Thank you for your message.
> 
> Dear Susan,
> 
> Thank you for your recent inquiry regarding the fabric
> department in  
> your local store.  As with any merchandise decision that we
> make, we  
> have based our decision to reduce the stitching and fabric
> departments  
> on customer demand, which does not appear to be as high
> today for a  
> full stitching and fabric offering in some markets as it
> may have been  
> at Wal-Mart in the past.
> 
> In keeping with our emphasis on being a store of the
> community, Wal- 
> Mart is converting the fabrics and crafts department in
> some stores to  
> a newly expanded assortment of merchandise that focuses on
> life's  
> celebrations.  We are thrilled to offer our customers this
> exciting  
> new crafts and celebrations center that makes available
> craft and  
> party planning needs along with information on current
> trends and new  
> ideas in the area of life's celebrations, such as
> holidays, weddings  
> and birthdays.
> 
> In those stores where the new crafts and celebrations
> center is  
> placed, merchandise commonly referred to as
> 'notions' will be included  
> in the product offerings - such as sewing machines, yarn,
> needles,  
> thread, etc.  As a part of this conversion, most of our new
> and  
> remodeled stores that opened earlier this year, as well as
> a small  
> number of existing stores, will feature the new crafts and 
> 
> celebrations center in place of bolt fabrics.  Wal-Mart
> will continue  
> to carry cut fabric in most of our stores.  Due to the
> continued  
> evaluation of our stores, we are unable to share a list of
> existing  
> stores scheduled to receive the new crafts and celebrations
> center at  
> this time.
> 
> Thank you,
> Wal-Mart Customer Relations
>  >
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Re: [h-cost] walmart fabrics

2008-08-08 Thread Abel, Cynthia
People are still sewing in my neck of the woods, but a lot more careful
about waiting for sales. They are also concerned about fabric quality,
esp thread count among quilters. I think it is tied in more with the
economy--most people have been losing spending power in dollars earned
for a long time(hence Walmart, etc) and now the chickens have come home
to roost, so to speak. Fabric retailers are more and more owned by big
conglomerates that are more concerned with bottom line profits.
Consumers are buying a lot fewer clothes and I've seen more than one
back-to-school shopping kid throw a temper tantrum because Mom and Dad
are now shopping Payless shoes and Target(where I buy my own shoes and
have for a long time), instead of buying them expensive name-brand
shoes. Of course, I still see a lot of older kids buying multiple pairs
of Nike's or whatever(and wonder where the money comes from!)

Cindy Abel

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PS
But at least you seem to have gotten a reasoned response.  And I will
be 
writing, too.
 
Thanks again for letting us see that at least someone is paying
attention.  
 
I was with a group of true believers last weekend, and, while we were
all  
lamenting the disappearance of fabric stores, we agreed it is because
folks  
aren't sewing anymore--which is just what Walmart told you.
 
Ann Wass



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