Re: [h-cost] The fit of 17th century stockings?

2009-04-04 Thread Glenda Robinson
It depends on the material they're made of.

I have made and worn both knitted and fabric stocks. The knitted ones have
much more stretch, so can be tight about the ankle. The fabric ones can't be
really tight around the ankle, even when cut on the bias, otherwise you just
can't get your foot through them to put them on! I recall seeing drawing
with ties on the ankle of the fabric stocks to pull them in after they're
on, but don't remember where off the top of my head.

Glenda.



-Original Message-
From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On
Behalf Of Chris Laning
Sent: Sunday, 5 April 2009 7:05 AM
To: Historical Costume
Subject: [h-cost] The fit of 17th century stockings?

I'm working on a project that involves constructing some mid-17th- 
century stockings, and my own expertise (such as it is) is really  
only with earlier centuries.

So far, the results I seem to be getting suggest that either (1)  
these stockings are *supposed* to be loose around the ankle and  
instep rather than closely fitted, or (2) the instructions were  
written by someone who really didn't know what he was doing!

Both are possible, of course, but since I haven't studied 17th  
century fashions at all, I don't have information that would enable  
me to tell. Insights from people more familiar with this era would be  
very helpful -- backup evidence even more so ;)



OChris Laning  - Davis, California
+ http://paternoster-row.org - http://paternosters.blogspot.com




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Re: [h-cost] In Washington DC the week before CC28

2009-04-04 Thread CC2010Milw
Just two small corrections.

CC27 is this year. CC28 is next year. 

And you are not the only one going! Do we want to try a meet up sometime over 
the weekend?

Henry W. Osier
Chairman, Costume-Con 28
May 7 to May 10, 2010
www.CC28.org
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[h-cost] The fit of 17th century stockings?

2009-04-04 Thread Chris Laning
I'm working on a project that involves constructing some mid-17th- 
century stockings, and my own expertise (such as it is) is really  
only with earlier centuries.


So far, the results I seem to be getting suggest that either (1)  
these stockings are *supposed* to be loose around the ankle and  
instep rather than closely fitted, or (2) the instructions were  
written by someone who really didn't know what he was doing!


Both are possible, of course, but since I haven't studied 17th  
century fashions at all, I don't have information that would enable  
me to tell. Insights from people more familiar with this era would be  
very helpful -- backup evidence even more so ;)




OChris Laning  - Davis, California
+ http://paternoster-row.org - http://paternosters.blogspot.com




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Re: [h-cost] State of: RE: New York fabric shopping

2009-04-04 Thread purplkat
Almost forgot - 

Take cash $$

Some of the shops will give a discount if you pay in cash over credit cards (ie 
$5/yd cash $7/yd credit card  - 2005 prices).

One place I went to - got 60" pure linen, 7 yds (total $35 cash),, BUT when I 
got home and measured it on the yard stick I actually got 7 1/2 yds. I know, 
not much, but when it washed and dried I ended up with 7 full yards. 

I am going to go back to that place and write down the address, phone, name etc 
cause everyone wants to go there...

- Original Message -
From: Kate Pinner 
Date: Saturday, April 4, 2009 11:34 am
Subject: Re: [h-cost] State of: RE: New York fabric shopping
To: 'Historical Costume' 

> 
> 
> If possible shop 2 days - Sat and Sun (IIRC Sat is a holy day 
> for one
> religion, and Sun a holy day for another, and some shops have 
> one of those
> days off anyway)
> 
> When I was shopping for my wedding fabric, back in 1492, You did 
> better with
> the haggling during the week because the weekends were filled 
> with mothers
> and daughters looking foe wedding fabric so the merchants were 
> less likely
> to lower their prices.
> 
> Kate Pinner
> 
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Re: [h-cost] State of: RE: New York fabric shopping

2009-04-04 Thread Kate Pinner
 

If possible shop 2 days - Sat and Sun (IIRC Sat is a holy day for one
religion, and Sun a holy day for another, and some shops have one of those
days off anyway)

When I was shopping for my wedding fabric, back in 1492, You did better with
the haggling during the week because the weekends were filled with mothers
and daughters looking foe wedding fabric so the merchants were less likely
to lower their prices.

Kate Pinner


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Re: [h-cost] State of: RE: New York fabric shopping

2009-04-04 Thread purplkat
I have visited NYC many times and have seen the Kiosk 'manned' only once - and 
that time people were taking boxes of pamphlets OUT of the kiosk. They then 
locked the door and left.

If possible shop 2 days - Sat and Sun (IIRC Sat is a holy day for one religion, 
and Sun a holy day for another, and some shops have one of those days off 
anyway)

Katheryne
who wishes there was a YARN district - instead of different shops that have a 
small shelf of yarn for sale 

- Original Message -
From: Saragrace Knauf 
>
>(snippage happens)
> 
> The information kiosk for the garment 
> district wasn't manned the whole time I was there. You need to 
> plan for at least one business day besides a Friday, and be sure 
> to check out when some of the ethnic holidays are. Many of the 
> shops are closed on those days.
> 
> Sg
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Re: [h-cost] new book

2009-04-04 Thread Beth and Bob Matney
I have a copy of this volume. It is quite good. Been planning to get 
a copy of the earlier volume.


Volume 3 is forthcoming.

Beth

At 08:17 AM 4/4/2009, you wrote:

Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009

For those interested in really early costume:

http://www.artbooks.com/wc.dll?AB~emailReview~&itemno=100047&custno=12840

 Janet


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[h-cost] State of: RE: New York fabric shopping

2009-04-04 Thread Saragrace Knauf

I haven't been to LA in a few years, but was in NY in 06 - and I was probably 
one of the people who echoed disappointment.  I also recall saying that I liked 
LA better - 

What I found in NY was that each store had something a little different and 
some of it was really cool, but it took more time to grub around, and the 
prices weren't that great.  I don't know what it was like before, but most of 
the stores are tiny shops crammed with fabric...  The information kiosk for the 
garment district wasn't manned the whole time I was there.  You need to plan 
for at least one business day besides a Friday, and be sure to check out when 
some of the ethnic holidays are.  Many of the shops are closed on those days.

Sg



> From: syl...@ntw.net
> Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 20:48:26 -0600
> To: h-cost...@indra.com
> Subject: Re: [h-cost] New York fabric shopping
> 
> I haven't been following this NY shopping thread, since I never go  
> there, but it brings up a question for me.   I heard a year or two  
> back, that fabric shopping in the big cities isn't what it used to  
> be.  If I take on a new design job I've just been offered, I may have  
> to travel to L.A. to shop for it.  I recall someone saying that the  
> garment district doesn't have all the good jobbers it used to.   True  
> or not?
> 
> Sylvia R
> 
> On Apr 3, 2009, at 8:42 PM, Susan Carroll-Clark wrote:
> 
> > Thanks everyone for all the suggestions so far.  I'm getting  
> > psyched, and believe it or not, so is my husband (who was dubious  
> > about the time we allotted on the schedule for fabric shopping,  
> > until he realized there was stuff HE was looking for...)
> >
> > Susan
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[h-cost] television costumes

2009-04-04 Thread Land of Oz
I've been wondering about the accuracy of the costumes on the tv show "Christy" 
- I've
been watching it on dvd. While I enjoy the stories, I've seen a few things that 
seem to
scream "wrong era" and I wondered what other people think - who are more 
familiar with the
stated time (1912) and place (Appalachia/Smokey Mountains, USA). In the pilot, 
Tyne Daily
seems to be actually wearing a corset, and the title character Christy played 
by Kelly
Martin seems to be wearing good outfits, but with the wrong silhouette.   Some 
of the
accessories, like hats, seem to cover a good many decades - which given the 
economic
situation (extremely poor) that might be accurate. Very poor people would tend 
to keep
wearing the one hat they own, even if it was far out of fashion, I think.

Comments?  

Denise B
Iowa

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