Re: [h-cost] The fit of 17th century stockings?
It depends on the material they're made of. I have made and worn both knitted and fabric stocks. The knitted ones have much more stretch, so can be tight about the ankle. The fabric ones can't be really tight around the ankle, even when cut on the bias, otherwise you just can't get your foot through them to put them on! I recall seeing drawing with ties on the ankle of the fabric stocks to pull them in after they're on, but don't remember where off the top of my head. Glenda. -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Chris Laning Sent: Sunday, 5 April 2009 7:05 AM To: Historical Costume Subject: [h-cost] The fit of 17th century stockings? I'm working on a project that involves constructing some mid-17th- century stockings, and my own expertise (such as it is) is really only with earlier centuries. So far, the results I seem to be getting suggest that either (1) these stockings are *supposed* to be loose around the ankle and instep rather than closely fitted, or (2) the instructions were written by someone who really didn't know what he was doing! Both are possible, of course, but since I haven't studied 17th century fashions at all, I don't have information that would enable me to tell. Insights from people more familiar with this era would be very helpful -- backup evidence even more so ;) OChris Laning - Davis, California + http://paternoster-row.org - http://paternosters.blogspot.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] In Washington DC the week before CC28
Just two small corrections. CC27 is this year. CC28 is next year. And you are not the only one going! Do we want to try a meet up sometime over the weekend? Henry W. Osier Chairman, Costume-Con 28 May 7 to May 10, 2010 www.CC28.org ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] The fit of 17th century stockings?
I'm working on a project that involves constructing some mid-17th- century stockings, and my own expertise (such as it is) is really only with earlier centuries. So far, the results I seem to be getting suggest that either (1) these stockings are *supposed* to be loose around the ankle and instep rather than closely fitted, or (2) the instructions were written by someone who really didn't know what he was doing! Both are possible, of course, but since I haven't studied 17th century fashions at all, I don't have information that would enable me to tell. Insights from people more familiar with this era would be very helpful -- backup evidence even more so ;) OChris Laning - Davis, California + http://paternoster-row.org - http://paternosters.blogspot.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] State of: RE: New York fabric shopping
Almost forgot - Take cash $$ Some of the shops will give a discount if you pay in cash over credit cards (ie $5/yd cash $7/yd credit card - 2005 prices). One place I went to - got 60" pure linen, 7 yds (total $35 cash),, BUT when I got home and measured it on the yard stick I actually got 7 1/2 yds. I know, not much, but when it washed and dried I ended up with 7 full yards. I am going to go back to that place and write down the address, phone, name etc cause everyone wants to go there... - Original Message - From: Kate Pinner Date: Saturday, April 4, 2009 11:34 am Subject: Re: [h-cost] State of: RE: New York fabric shopping To: 'Historical Costume' > > > If possible shop 2 days - Sat and Sun (IIRC Sat is a holy day > for one > religion, and Sun a holy day for another, and some shops have > one of those > days off anyway) > > When I was shopping for my wedding fabric, back in 1492, You did > better with > the haggling during the week because the weekends were filled > with mothers > and daughters looking foe wedding fabric so the merchants were > less likely > to lower their prices. > > Kate Pinner > > > ___ > h-costume mailing list > h-costume@mail.indra.com > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] State of: RE: New York fabric shopping
If possible shop 2 days - Sat and Sun (IIRC Sat is a holy day for one religion, and Sun a holy day for another, and some shops have one of those days off anyway) When I was shopping for my wedding fabric, back in 1492, You did better with the haggling during the week because the weekends were filled with mothers and daughters looking foe wedding fabric so the merchants were less likely to lower their prices. Kate Pinner ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] State of: RE: New York fabric shopping
I have visited NYC many times and have seen the Kiosk 'manned' only once - and that time people were taking boxes of pamphlets OUT of the kiosk. They then locked the door and left. If possible shop 2 days - Sat and Sun (IIRC Sat is a holy day for one religion, and Sun a holy day for another, and some shops have one of those days off anyway) Katheryne who wishes there was a YARN district - instead of different shops that have a small shelf of yarn for sale - Original Message - From: Saragrace Knauf > >(snippage happens) > > The information kiosk for the garment > district wasn't manned the whole time I was there. You need to > plan for at least one business day besides a Friday, and be sure > to check out when some of the ethnic holidays are. Many of the > shops are closed on those days. > > Sg ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] new book
I have a copy of this volume. It is quite good. Been planning to get a copy of the earlier volume. Volume 3 is forthcoming. Beth At 08:17 AM 4/4/2009, you wrote: Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 For those interested in really early costume: http://www.artbooks.com/wc.dll?AB~emailReview~&itemno=100047&custno=12840 Janet ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] State of: RE: New York fabric shopping
I haven't been to LA in a few years, but was in NY in 06 - and I was probably one of the people who echoed disappointment. I also recall saying that I liked LA better - What I found in NY was that each store had something a little different and some of it was really cool, but it took more time to grub around, and the prices weren't that great. I don't know what it was like before, but most of the stores are tiny shops crammed with fabric... The information kiosk for the garment district wasn't manned the whole time I was there. You need to plan for at least one business day besides a Friday, and be sure to check out when some of the ethnic holidays are. Many of the shops are closed on those days. Sg > From: syl...@ntw.net > Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 20:48:26 -0600 > To: h-cost...@indra.com > Subject: Re: [h-cost] New York fabric shopping > > I haven't been following this NY shopping thread, since I never go > there, but it brings up a question for me. I heard a year or two > back, that fabric shopping in the big cities isn't what it used to > be. If I take on a new design job I've just been offered, I may have > to travel to L.A. to shop for it. I recall someone saying that the > garment district doesn't have all the good jobbers it used to. True > or not? > > Sylvia R > > On Apr 3, 2009, at 8:42 PM, Susan Carroll-Clark wrote: > > > Thanks everyone for all the suggestions so far. I'm getting > > psyched, and believe it or not, so is my husband (who was dubious > > about the time we allotted on the schedule for fabric shopping, > > until he realized there was stuff HE was looking for...) > > > > Susan > > ___ > > h-costume mailing list > > h-costume@mail.indra.com > > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > > ___ > h-costume mailing list > h-costume@mail.indra.com > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] television costumes
I've been wondering about the accuracy of the costumes on the tv show "Christy" - I've been watching it on dvd. While I enjoy the stories, I've seen a few things that seem to scream "wrong era" and I wondered what other people think - who are more familiar with the stated time (1912) and place (Appalachia/Smokey Mountains, USA). In the pilot, Tyne Daily seems to be actually wearing a corset, and the title character Christy played by Kelly Martin seems to be wearing good outfits, but with the wrong silhouette. Some of the accessories, like hats, seem to cover a good many decades - which given the economic situation (extremely poor) that might be accurate. Very poor people would tend to keep wearing the one hat they own, even if it was far out of fashion, I think. Comments? Denise B Iowa ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume