[h-cost] Judging styles was Re: losing points in judging
This also depends on Judging Style. While I'll put points on the sheet I rarely use them except as a rough guideline during deliberations. Hi, I do something similar as my role as judge for the cosplay contests over here here (and come October in Oz too :) ) because of time limits. I though start with everyone at 5 out of 10. This is to assume they have followed the two very basic rules: it was made by the wearer and they told me how. Those are in the official rules and so this is the minimum of what I would expect of everyone. The C grade if you will, or pass or whatever. This is fairly moot as the contestants don't get to see these numbers/grades but they help me in sorting out the awards. Anyone over a certain mark is automatically in the running (though not automatically awarded) and anyone below it will not- then I can compare the individual entries. So it is in the contestants interest to do more than the minimal amount required! Points do get lost for not even giving me the basics but that happens once a contest if that. Points are gained far more frequently, as should be the case, and they are given for everything from fine finishing to fit to choices of materials to creativity. In this contest I am dealing with children through to adults and I have to make sure that there is a truly even playing field and to encourage everyone to be the best they can be. It's tough as well as I am comparing not just time periods but every technique that can be used in costuming that there is. I've had Spartans (fibreglass, leather, vacuumforming oh my!) and ballgowns and bodypaint and latex and tailoring... some in the same contest! So I do make notes of complexity and execution. It means something apparently simple done brilliantly can get the same score as a very complex costume not quite so perfectly finished. And of course anyone who can execute a very complex costume beautifully deserves to be rewarded for that! I do have to be tough at times. Every time we have run the contest there are people who do not read the rules or expect to enter on the day. These are not little contests. We had a good 60 people in the last contest and for a country of around 4 million people that is quite a staggering number. We do this three times a year and we get that many in Auckland and Wellington but less in Christchurch due to geographical location. So remain very polite and explain why it is unfair to let people break the rules when there are so many who follow them and have been working on their costume for many months. I also judge in SCA kingdom AS contests when I attend kingdom events so I have a different set of judging criteria to work on. I think we took two hours to judge 6 hats last weekend. Comments and marking schedule included. Michaela de Bruce http://costumes.glittersweet.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Judging styles was Re: losing points in judging
I though start with everyone at 5 out of 10. This is to assume they have followed the two very basic rules: it was made by the wearer and they told me how. Those are in the official rules and so this is the minimum of what I would expect of everyone. The C grade if you will, or pass or whatever. This is fairly moot as the contestants don't get to see these numbers/grades but they help me in sorting out the awards. Anyone over a certain mark is automatically in the running (though not automatically awarded) and anyone below it will not- then I can compare the individual entries. So it is in the contestants interest to do more than the minimal amount required! Points do get lost I think it's more positive to describe the judging process in terms of adding points to a score, and competing as taking advantage of opportunities to score points, than it is to talk about losing points. But in all my years I've never heard of a system where points can actually be lost from an initial number of them. Yours does seem workable, I just never thought of it that way. -- Carolyn Kayta Barrows -- Blank paper is God's way of saying it ain't so easy being God. -- ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Kayta cautiously attempts some presentation advice
Nowadays plus-sized women get to shop for real clothes, designed for their size, and to feel good about themselves in day or evening clothes. - On which planet is this? The clothes designed for their size are in reality designed only for women shorter than 5'6 who carry all their weight in their boobs/stomach. Tall plus sized clothing often adds a whopping 1/2 inch to the inseam and I've never seen tall tops. Even undergarments are affected. If you are short and big busted, finding a bra isn't hard. If you are tall or have a large rib circumference and small cup size, forget it. Finding evening wear and sports wear is a total joke. So is classic tailored styles. If you want to look like a teenage hooker you can find tons of plus sized clothing! I never thought I'd be sewing so much everyday wear for myself. Denise B Iowa ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Blog post: Resurrection of the Amateur
A fencing buddy of mine works for the Center for the Future of Museums (USA) and has written a post for the CFM's blog about the interface between museum experts and amateur experts. Given that a lot of the people on this list aren't museum professionals yet may visit costume collections behind the scenes for costume research, I thought some of y'all might want to read and comment: http://futureofmuseums.blogspot.com/2009/05/resurrection-of-amateur-expert.html Full disclosure: I'm the 'fencing buddy' mentioned in the post. They are seeking comments and feedback, so if you like - or don't like - what you read, do let them know. And feel free to forward this around. Allison T. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Kayta cautiously attempts some presentation advice
Nowadays plus-sized women get to shop for real clothes, designed for their size, and to feel good about themselves in day or evening clothes. - On which planet is this? Planet California? Here there are specialty shops like Lane Bryant. ( http://www.lanebryant.com http://www.lanebryant.com/pagebuilder/ sorry - I find they won't ship to Oz) And friends of mine several sizes larger than I am have found plenty of acceptable stuff in other places online. These friends (one is 5'8) used to complain and don't now. Obligatory Historical costume note: In the 1960s, Lane Bryant only had fat-lady tents (and dowdy old-lady stuff). 60s comedian Allen Sherman characterized a plus-sized woman as Lane Bryant size, in one of his songs, because everyone knew that's where you had to go for plus-sized stuff. Nowadays Lane Bryant has relatively-stylish plus-size stuff (14-32) even 30-somethings would wear, including office-wear and lingerie. -- Carolyn Kayta Barrows -- Blank paper is God's way of saying it ain't so easy being God. -- ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Kayta cautiously attempts some presentation advice
One plus has a variety of providers and a variety of styles and qualities. They even have plus sized bras in a B cup Good luck From: Käthe Barrows kay...@gmail.com To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 11:31:08 AM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Kayta cautiously attempts some presentation advice Nowadays plus-sized women get to shop for real clothes, designed for their size, and to feel good about themselves in day or evening clothes. - On which planet is this? Planet California? Here there are specialty shops like Lane Bryant. ( http://www.lanebryant.com http://www.lanebryant.com/pagebuilder/ sorry - I find they won't ship to Oz) And friends of mine several sizes larger than I am have found plenty of acceptable stuff in other places online. These friends (one is 5'8) used to complain and don't now. Obligatory Historical costume note: In the 1960s, Lane Bryant only had fat-lady tents (and dowdy old-lady stuff). 60s comedian Allen Sherman characterized a plus-sized woman as Lane Bryant size, in one of his songs, because everyone knew that's where you had to go for plus-sized stuff. Nowadays Lane Bryant has relatively-stylish plus-size stuff (14-32) even 30-somethings would wear, including office-wear and lingerie. -- Carolyn Kayta Barrows -- Blank paper is God's way of saying it ain't so easy being God. -- ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Kayta cautiously attempts some presentation advice
One plus has a variety of providers and a variety of styles and qualities. They even have plus sized bras in a B cup There's another problem - those of us who are plus-sized re. cup size and some commonly available size everywhere else. This works well enough for Victorian and Edwardian, but not so well for 2009. -- Carolyn Kayta Barrows -- “The future is already here, it is just unevenly distributed.” -William Gibson -- ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Large sizes
Hear, hear! At 5'11, I mostly buy men's, at least for turtlenecks and polo shirts. I have a lot of Alfred Dunner tops for work, because their XL is really an XL. Actually, I discovered that their Misses XL is the same circumference as their Womens 1X. The difference is the Womens is shorter in the body and sleeves. And their long sleeved tops are actually long enough for me! Too bad their pants don't come in talls. And as for Lane Bryant, the only thing I can get there is jeans. Lately they're on a 60's / 70's kick, and that stuff was ugly enough the first time. Their Right Fit jeans, however, are awesome! I can finally get jeans that fit my hips and DON'T gap at the waist, and are long enough! Check them out! Sandy At 07:29 AM 5/12/2009, you wrote: Nowadays plus-sized women get to shop for real clothes, designed for their size, and to feel good about themselves in day or evening clothes. - On which planet is this? The clothes designed for their size are in reality designed only for women shorter than 5'6 who carry all their weight in their boobs/stomach. Tall plus sized clothing often adds a whopping 1/2 inch to the inseam and I've never seen tall tops. Even undergarments are affected. If you are short and big busted, finding a bra isn't hard. If you are tall or have a large rib circumference and small cup size, forget it. Finding evening wear and sports wear is a total joke. So is classic tailored styles. If you want to look like a teenage hooker you can find tons of plus sized clothing! I never thought I'd be sewing so much everyday wear for myself. Denise B Iowa Those Who Fail to Learn History Are Doomed to Repeat It; Those Who Fail To Learn History Correctly - Why They Are Simply Doomed. Achemdro'hm The Illusion of Historical Fact -- C. Y. 4971 Andromeda ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
