Re: [h-cost] Washing, ironing, and running repairs - was "an amusing error"

[Betsy Marshall]

No doubt the cause/association behind the verb- to mangle- with its'
connotations of mutilation and destruction.

-Original Message-
From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On
Behalf Of Marjorie Wilser
Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 8:03 PM
To: Historical Costume
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Washing, ironing, and running repairs - was "an
amusing error"

And for good reason, Catherine. My mom caught her finger in the  
wringer when I was an infant. She left me with a neighbor and _ran_ to  
the nearest doctor's office- this was before 2 cars (or more) per  
family.

Until we got a modern washer, my mom took the laundry- and me- to the  
laundromat when her finger recovered!

 == Marjorie Wilser

=:=:=:Three Toad Press:=:=:=

"Learn to laugh at yourself and you will never lack for amusement." --MW

http://3toad.blogspot.com/


On Jan 17, 2010, at 5:10 PM, cbellfl...@aol.com wrote:

> My grandmother had a washing machine on her back porch with a  
> wringer on top.  We kids weren't allowed to mess with that.

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Re: [h-cost] Washing, irioning, and running repairs - was "an amusing error"

[Megan McHugh]

I have to put in my 2 cents - I never heard of an ironing kind of mangle
until recently- my first association is that a mangle is the wringer part
that goes over the  washing tub.  I grew up in western PA, perhaps that
helps?  So, I am always surprised when somebody is selling a flat bed iron
and calls it a mangle.
-Megan
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Re: [h-cost] Washing, ironing, and running repairs - was "an amusing error"

[Marjorie Wilser]

And for good reason, Catherine. My mom caught her finger in the  
wringer when I was an infant. She left me with a neighbor and _ran_ to  
the nearest doctor's office- this was before 2 cars (or more) per  
family.


Until we got a modern washer, my mom took the laundry- and me- to the  
laundromat when her finger recovered!


== Marjorie Wilser

=:=:=:Three Toad Press:=:=:=

"Learn to laugh at yourself and you will never lack for amusement." --MW

http://3toad.blogspot.com/


On Jan 17, 2010, at 5:10 PM, cbellfl...@aol.com wrote:

My grandmother had a washing machine on her back porch with a  
wringer on top.  We kids weren't allowed to mess with that.


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Re: [h-cost] Silk velvet

[Chiara Francesca]

Silk d'Or has a private bridal shop that they put out the overflow into that 
little back room that has minimal lighting sometimes. That is where some of us 
have found the silk velvet.

And I too have mine sitting in a box for um ... too many years. :D

♫
Chiara Francesca
"Which 'Chiara'...?? Nah... wasn't me ;-)"


> -Original Message-
> From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com]
> On Behalf Of Traci
> Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 9:27 AM
> To: Historical Costume
> Subject: Re: [h-cost] Silk velvet
> 
> I don't know the name of the store unfortunately; it was one of the
> ones on
> Perth street (which is basically the Dallas fabric district).   <:)
> 
> Also, I got my velvet over 2 years ago (like I said, I really need to
> find
> the time for this project!).  Since those stores can't order anything
> and
> they get what they get it was luck that I found the bolt.
> Traci
> On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 8:52 AM, Betsy Marshall <
> be...@softwareinnovation.com> wrote:
> 
> > I'll second that request! Please, please...(Arlington TX area, but
> not
> > far...)
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-
> boun...@indra.com] On
> > Behalf Of Elena House
> > Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 10:57 PM
> > To: Historical Costume
> > Subject: Re: [h-cost] Silk velvet
> >
> > On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 9:22 PM, Traci 
> wrote:
> > > I found my velvet at a small private store (not a chain and not
> online)
> > in
> > > the fabric district near me (Dallas)
> >
> > As someone who has tons of family in and around Dallas, I'd like very
> > much to know more about this small private store...
> >
> > -E House
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Re: [h-cost] Washing, ironing, and running repairs - was "an amusing error"

[cbellfleur]

 We had what my mother called an ironer.  It had a padded roll that pressed 
against the metal plate.  It seemed huge!  It was a white metal cabinet and the 
top part lifted up and hinged back.  I actually learned to use it when I was 
about 10.  She stopped using it about the time I was in junior high - I guess 
permanent press sheets came in about then.  I'd love to have room for it now to 
press fabric!  
One memory I have is blowing a fuse while using it.  It must have had quite a 
power draw.   

My grandmother had a washing machine on her back porch with a wringer on top.  
We kids weren't allowed to mess with that. 

 


 Catherine 

 

-Original Message-
From: wanda pease 
To: 'Historical Costume' 
Sent: Sun, Jan 17, 2010 5:53 pm
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Washing, ironing, and running repairs - was "an amusing 
error"


Having used both a Mangle AND a wringer I can tell you both that they are
two different pieces of equipment.  Much the same in basic construction, but
used for different things.

I am old enough to have used a Wringer type washing machine when I was
little.  The Wringer was used to put the wet, rinsed clothing through to
squeeze out as much water as possible before the items were hung out on the
clothes line (yep, no dryers).

The mangle was a heated long roller that you put the clean, dry or damp
clothing into (a pant leg, a table cloth, the ruffles on a little girl's
dress all depending on how good you were to press them the way we iron
clothing today.  I happen to have one given me by my older neighbor that I
use to iron long pieces of pre-washed fabric, or table cloths.  I'm not good
enough to do the fine ironing that you can do.

The Mangle roller is quite hot and covered in fabric a bit like a modern
ironing board.  You could spritz water onto either it, or the clothing and
release a leaver which brought the heated roller down and pressed the fabric
between  it and the base plate.  Found out the hard way to put a basket
under the spot where the ironed cloth came out to keep it clean.  I use it
in the garage because it is very heavy and it gives me room to stretch out
the cloth.

In a way you are both right.  A wringer wrings extra water out of cloth (and
hands, and hair, and things that get caught that shouldn't.  They are a
menace that way.

A mangle irons the damp or dry cloth or clothing.  First you wring out the
cloth and dry it to a barely damp or dry condition with the wringer and
clothes line (ecologically friendly dryer).  After the cloth is damp or dry
you use the Mangle to iron it flat.

One goes with the washer, the other is a large scale iron.

Wanda Pease who still loves her Mangle for pressing 10 yards of pre-washed
fabric before cutting it out.



 
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Re: [h-cost] Washing, irioning, and running repairs - was "an amusing error"

[Sharon Collier]

My mom had one similar to this when I was a kid, but hers worked more like a
waffle iron, with a top and bottom, not rollers. 

-Original Message-
From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On
Behalf Of cw15147-hcos...@yahoo.com
Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 2:11 PM
To: Historical Costume
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Washing, irioning,and running repairs - was "an
amusing error"

You can still get a mangle, the ironing kind:





Claudine



- Original Message 
> From: Sharon Collier 
> To: Historical Costume 
> Sent: Sun, January 17, 2010 1:38:40 PM
> Subject: Re: [h-cost] Washing, irioning, and running repairs - was "an
amusing error"
> 
> Yes, I was, because I knew a mangle as a device to wring water out of 
> clothes before drying. However, another person here says there was a 
> rotary iron, also called a mangle.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] 
> On Behalf Of landofoz
> Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 6:55 AM
> To: Historical Costume
> Subject: Re: [h-cost] Washing, irioning,and running repairs - was "an 
> amusing error"
> 
> I think the OP was pointing out the error of the order in which the 
> author described the events of the laundry...
> 
> 
> Denise B
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Re: [h-cost] Washing, ironing, and running repairs - was "an amusing error"

[wanda pease]

Having used both a Mangle AND a wringer I can tell you both that they are
two different pieces of equipment.  Much the same in basic construction, but
used for different things.

I am old enough to have used a Wringer type washing machine when I was
little.  The Wringer was used to put the wet, rinsed clothing through to
squeeze out as much water as possible before the items were hung out on the
clothes line (yep, no dryers).

The mangle was a heated long roller that you put the clean, dry or damp
clothing into (a pant leg, a table cloth, the ruffles on a little girl's
dress all depending on how good you were to press them the way we iron
clothing today.  I happen to have one given me by my older neighbor that I
use to iron long pieces of pre-washed fabric, or table cloths.  I'm not good
enough to do the fine ironing that you can do.

The Mangle roller is quite hot and covered in fabric a bit like a modern
ironing board.  You could spritz water onto either it, or the clothing and
release a leaver which brought the heated roller down and pressed the fabric
between  it and the base plate.  Found out the hard way to put a basket
under the spot where the ironed cloth came out to keep it clean.  I use it
in the garage because it is very heavy and it gives me room to stretch out
the cloth.

In a way you are both right.  A wringer wrings extra water out of cloth (and
hands, and hair, and things that get caught that shouldn't.  They are a
menace that way.

A mangle irons the damp or dry cloth or clothing.  First you wring out the
cloth and dry it to a barely damp or dry condition with the wringer and
clothes line (ecologically friendly dryer).  After the cloth is damp or dry
you use the Mangle to iron it flat.

One goes with the washer, the other is a large scale iron.

Wanda Pease who still loves her Mangle for pressing 10 yards of pre-washed
fabric before cutting it out.

-Original Message-
From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com]on
Behalf Of julian wilson
Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 9:33 AM
To: Historical Costume
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Washing, irioning,and running repairs - was "an
amusing error"


--- On Sun, 17/1/10, R Lloyd Mitchell  wrote:
Mangle is a rotary iron usually used for table linens and other 'flat'
items.? A Wringer

COMMENT
Dear Mr Mitchell,
 if you look at
http://victorians.swgfl.org.uk/themes/personal_health/mangleobj.htm#
there you'll see what the Victorians and Edwardians called a "mangle". My
Grandma, [born in 1875, and died 1958], had one just like the one shown in
the colour picture at that URL
Maybe it was called a "wringer" in the USA  or even just in Washington
State, - I wouldn't know.
My Grandma and her three daughters all referred to it as a " mangle" - and
so does Shropshire Museum Services' Northgate Museum  at Bridgenorth, -
where they have one on display.

Cordially,
 Julain Wilson,
 "old" Jersey.


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Re: [h-cost] Washing, irioning, and running repairs - was "an amusing error"

[Ruth Anne Baumgartner]

My mother had an ironing mangle (electric) in the 1950s in New  
Jersey. I loved watching that thing work (only my mother was allowed  
to run it--because, yes, it had its dangers). Tablecloths and  
drapessmooth as glass.


Dickens has a wonderful scene with a mangle in "Our Mutual Friend."  
Mangles are mentioned in some of his other novels too, particularly  
"Tale of Two Cities" and "Great Expectations."


--Ruth Anne Baumgartner
scholar gypsy and amateur costumer

On Jan 17, 2010, at 4:38 PM, Sharon Collier wrote:


Yes, I was, because I knew a mangle as a device to wring water out of
clothes before drying. However, another person here says there was  
a rotary

iron, also called a mangle.

-Original Message-
From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume- 
boun...@indra.com] On

Behalf Of landofoz
Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 6:55 AM
To: Historical Costume
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Washing, irioning,and running repairs - was "an
amusing error"

I think the OP was pointing out the error of the order in which the  
author

described the events of the laundry...


Denise B

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Re: [h-cost] Washing, irioning, and running repairs - was "an amusing error"

[cw15147-hcost00]

You can still get a mangle, the ironing kind:





Claudine



- Original Message 
> From: Sharon Collier 
> To: Historical Costume 
> Sent: Sun, January 17, 2010 1:38:40 PM
> Subject: Re: [h-cost] Washing, irioning, and running repairs - was "an 
> amusing error"
> 
> Yes, I was, because I knew a mangle as a device to wring water out of
> clothes before drying. However, another person here says there was a rotary
> iron, also called a mangle. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On
> Behalf Of landofoz
> Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 6:55 AM
> To: Historical Costume
> Subject: Re: [h-cost] Washing, irioning,and running repairs - was "an
> amusing error"
> 
> I think the OP was pointing out the error of the order in which the author
> described the events of the laundry...
> 
> 
> Denise B
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Re: [h-cost] Washing, irioning, and running repairs - was "an amusing error"

[Sharon Collier]

Yes, I was, because I knew a mangle as a device to wring water out of
clothes before drying. However, another person here says there was a rotary
iron, also called a mangle. 

-Original Message-
From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On
Behalf Of landofoz
Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 6:55 AM
To: Historical Costume
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Washing, irioning,and running repairs - was "an
amusing error"

I think the OP was pointing out the error of the order in which the author
described the events of the laundry...


Denise B

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Re: [h-cost] Washing, irioning, and running repairs - was "an amusing error"

[Sharon Collier]

AH, HA! I wondered how he could get it so wrong. So they had a
wringer-mangle and an ironing-mangle. Interesting. 

-Original Message-
From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On
Behalf Of R Lloyd Mitchell
Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 6:40 AM
To: Historical Costume
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Washing, irioning,and running repairs - was "an
amusing error"


Mangle is a rotary iron usually used for table linens and other 'flat'
items.? A Wringer -Original Message-
From: "julian wilson"  Sent 1/17/2010 6:26:32 AM
To: "Historical Costume" 
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Washing, irioning, and running repairs - was "an
amusing error"On Sun, 17/1/10, Charlene Charette 
wrote:
"Mangle" is the British term for what Americans call a "wringer".
On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 3:03 AM, Sharon Collier  wro
te:
> I am reading a book, "What Jane Austen Ate and Charles Dickens Knew" 
> SNIP
PED FOR BREVITY rolled the clothing until it was pressed."
> I would hate to have him doing my laundry!
cOMMENT
Members of the List
Several English, Victorian/Edwardian-era "preserved Great Houses" from the
19th and early 20th Centuries cared for by the National Trust in the S of E
ngland have an entire sdection of the "below-stairs" rooms dedicated to the
care and cleaning of clothes, and soft furnishings..
?I've visited one where a whole stable-like building -? only a few step s
across a cobbled yard from the Servants' Entrance - has the ground floor
dedicated to the entire operation, in appropriate sections. Boiler room, wa
shing room with lots of tubs and early agitation devices, mangling room com
plete with several mangles, drying room with indoor lines, ironing room, -
and sewing room with treadle-operated sewing machines. The Upper floor of t
he same building was servant's bedrooms.
Castle Drogo, built after 1900 as "the last Castle-build" in England - also
has a similar section of the "support facilities" .
Julian Wilson,
?in "old" Jersey,
?National Trust Member
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Re: [h-cost] 1920s Men's bathing suit pattern

[cc2010milw]

Here's the link for the site that sells them: 

http://www.gentlemansemporium.com/store/mens_swimwear.php?from=leftnav&;
__utma=1.663629051.1263760928.1263760928.1263760928.1&__utmb=1.1.10.1263760928&
__utmc=1&__utmx=-&
__utmz=1.1263760928.1.1.utmgclid=COyMgqmkrJ8CFY915Qod_3lc0w|utmccn=(not%20set)|utmcmd=(not%20set)|utmctr=gentlemen%27s%20emporium&
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Re: [h-cost] recreating a regency bonnet cap.

[annbwass]

Yes, after I posted, I realized the other person who said that 3/4 of a  
nail was undoubtedly correct.  Now I'll now if and when I try to use that  
pattern!
 
Ann Wass
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Re: [h-cost] Washing, irioning, and running repairs - was "an amusing error"

[Emily Gilbert]

Maybe it was called a "wringer" in the USA  or even just in Washington State, - 
I wouldn't know.


I used to work in the farmhouse section of a small living history park 
in Wisconsin, and we always referred to that device as a wringer.  I 
guess it's the American term. 


Emily
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Re: [h-cost] 100 percent silk velvet

[Lavolta Press]

On 1/17/2010 12:52 AM, Sharon Collier wrote:

I just want one of every color they show there. Yummy!


They emailed me to say they want $75/yard undyed, which I suppose is not 
atypical for silk velvet. This looks like the "chiffon" velvet popular 
in the 1920s. That's the kind of style I'd use it for, and it wouldn't 
require tons of yardage.


Fran
Lavolta Press
Books on historic clothing
http://www.lavoltapress.com

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Re: [h-cost] Washing, irioning, and running repairs - was "an amusing error"

[julian wilson]

--- On Sun, 17/1/10, R Lloyd Mitchell  wrote:
Mangle is a rotary iron usually used for table linens and other 'flat' items.? 
A Wringer

COMMENT
Dear Mr Mitchell,
 if you look at 
http://victorians.swgfl.org.uk/themes/personal_health/mangleobj.htm#
there you'll see what the Victorians and Edwardians called a "mangle". My 
Grandma, [born in 1875, and died 1958], had one just like the one shown in the 
colour picture at that URL
Maybe it was called a "wringer" in the USA  or even just in Washington State, - 
I wouldn't know.
My Grandma and her three daughters all referred to it as a " mangle" - and so 
does Shropshire Museum Services' Northgate Museum  at Bridgenorth, - where they 
have one on display.

Cordially,
 Julain Wilson,
 "old" Jersey.


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Re: [h-cost] Silk velvet

[Traci]

I don't know the name of the store unfortunately; it was one of the ones on
Perth street (which is basically the Dallas fabric district).   <:)

Also, I got my velvet over 2 years ago (like I said, I really need to find
the time for this project!).  Since those stores can't order anything and
they get what they get it was luck that I found the bolt.
Traci
On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 8:52 AM, Betsy Marshall <
be...@softwareinnovation.com> wrote:

> I'll second that request! Please, please...(Arlington TX area, but not
> far...)
>
> -Original Message-
> From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On
> Behalf Of Elena House
> Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 10:57 PM
> To: Historical Costume
> Subject: Re: [h-cost] Silk velvet
>
> On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 9:22 PM, Traci  wrote:
> > I found my velvet at a small private store (not a chain and not online)
> in
> > the fabric district near me (Dallas)
>
> As someone who has tons of family in and around Dallas, I'd like very
> much to know more about this small private store...
>
> -E House
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Re: [h-cost] Washing, irioning, and running repairs - was "an amusing error"

[landofoz]

I think the OP was pointing out the error of the order in which the author 
described the events of the laundry...



Denise B

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Re: [h-cost] Silk velvet

[Betsy Marshall]

I'll second that request! Please, please...(Arlington TX area, but not
far...)

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Behalf Of Elena House
Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 10:57 PM
To: Historical Costume
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Silk velvet

On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 9:22 PM, Traci  wrote:
> I found my velvet at a small private store (not a chain and not online) in
> the fabric district near me (Dallas)

As someone who has tons of family in and around Dallas, I'd like very
much to know more about this small private store...

-E House
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Re: [h-cost] Washing, irioning, and running repairs - was "an amusing error"

[R Lloyd Mitchell]

Opps in sending the former statement.
A mangle is a rotaty iron usually used for household linens; ?a wringer? ?was 
part of the washing machine.? It was mounted on the tub frame for laundry (19th 
century).? When electricity came into practicle use, the machine for washing 
clothes was motorized and the wringer was mounted above the tub.? In both 
cases, there had to be a tecnique to manipulate the fabric through the?rotating 
bars which were turned by a crank.?
From: "julian wilson" 
Sent 1/17/2010 6:26:32 AM
To: "Historical Costume" 
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Washing, irioning, and running repairs - was "an amusing 
error"On Sun, 17/1/10, Charlene Charette  wrote:
"Mangle" is the British term for what Americans call a "wringer".
On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 3:03 AM, Sharon Collier  wro
te:
> I am reading a book, "What Jane Austen Ate and Charles Dickens Knew" SNIP
PED FOR BREVITY rolled the clothing until it was pressed."
> I would hate to have him doing my laundry!
cOMMENT
Members of the List
Several English, Victorian/Edwardian-era "preserved Great Houses" from the
19th and early 20th Centuries cared for by the National Trust in the S of E
ngland have an entire sdection of the "below-stairs" rooms dedicated to the
care and cleaning of clothes, and soft furnishings..
?I've visited one where a whole stable-like building -? only a few step
s across a cobbled yard from the Servants' Entrance - has the ground floor
dedicated to the entire operation, in appropriate sections. Boiler room, wa
shing room with lots of tubs and early agitation devices, mangling room com
plete with several mangles, drying room with indoor lines, ironing room, -
and sewing room with treadle-operated sewing machines. The Upper floor of t
he same building was servant's bedrooms.
Castle Drogo, built after 1900 as "the last Castle-build" in England - also
has a similar section of the "support facilities" .
Julian Wilson,
?in "old" Jersey,
?National Trust Member
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Re: [h-cost] Washing, irioning, and running repairs - was "an amusing error"

[Betsy Marshall]

So first you mangle, then you iron?

-Original Message-
From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On
Behalf Of julian wilson
Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 5:27 AM
To: Historical Costume
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Washing, irioning, and running repairs - was "an
amusing error"

On Sun, 17/1/10, Charlene Charette  wrote:


"Mangle" is the British term for what Americans call a "wringer".
On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 3:03 AM, Sharon Collier 
wrote:
> I am reading a book, "What Jane Austen Ate and Charles Dickens Knew"
SNIPPED FOR BREVITY rolled the clothing until it was pressed."
> I would hate to have him doing my laundry!


cOMMENT
Members of the List
Several English, Victorian/Edwardian-era "preserved Great Houses" from the
19th and early 20th Centuries cared for by the National Trust in the S of
England have an entire sdection of the "below-stairs" rooms dedicated to the
care and cleaning of clothes, and soft furnishings..

 I've visited one where a whole stable-like building -  only a few steps
across a cobbled yard from the Servants' Entrance - has the ground floor
dedicated to the entire operation, in appropriate sections. Boiler room,
washing room with lots of tubs and early agitation devices, mangling room
complete with several mangles, drying room with indoor lines, ironing room,
- and sewing room with treadle-operated sewing machines. The Upper floor of
the same building was servant's bedrooms. 

Castle Drogo, built after 1900 as "the last Castle-build" in England - also
has a similar section of the "support facilities" .

Julian Wilson,
 in "old" Jersey,
 National Trust Member

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Re: [h-cost] Washing, irioning, and running repairs - was "an amusing error"

[R Lloyd Mitchell]

Mangle is a rotary iron usually used for table linens and other 'flat' items.? 
A Wringer
-Original Message-
From: "julian wilson" 
Sent 1/17/2010 6:26:32 AM
To: "Historical Costume" 
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Washing, irioning, and running repairs - was "an amusing 
error"On Sun, 17/1/10, Charlene Charette  wrote:
"Mangle" is the British term for what Americans call a "wringer".
On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 3:03 AM, Sharon Collier  wro
te:
> I am reading a book, "What Jane Austen Ate and Charles Dickens Knew" SNIP
PED FOR BREVITY rolled the clothing until it was pressed."
> I would hate to have him doing my laundry!
cOMMENT
Members of the List
Several English, Victorian/Edwardian-era "preserved Great Houses" from the
19th and early 20th Centuries cared for by the National Trust in the S of E
ngland have an entire sdection of the "below-stairs" rooms dedicated to the
care and cleaning of clothes, and soft furnishings..
?I've visited one where a whole stable-like building -? only a few step
s across a cobbled yard from the Servants' Entrance - has the ground floor
dedicated to the entire operation, in appropriate sections. Boiler room, wa
shing room with lots of tubs and early agitation devices, mangling room com
plete with several mangles, drying room with indoor lines, ironing room, -
and sewing room with treadle-operated sewing machines. The Upper floor of t
he same building was servant's bedrooms.
Castle Drogo, built after 1900 as "the last Castle-build" in England - also
has a similar section of the "support facilities" .
Julian Wilson,
?in "old" Jersey,
?National Trust Member
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Re: [h-cost] Washing, irioning, and running repairs - was "an amusing error"

[julian wilson]

On Sun, 17/1/10, Charlene Charette  wrote:


"Mangle" is the British term for what Americans call a "wringer".
On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 3:03 AM, Sharon Collier  wrote:
> I am reading a book, "What Jane Austen Ate and Charles Dickens Knew" SNIPPED 
> FOR BREVITY rolled the clothing until it was pressed."
> I would hate to have him doing my laundry!


cOMMENT
Members of the List
Several English, Victorian/Edwardian-era "preserved Great Houses" from the 19th 
and early 20th Centuries cared for by the National Trust in the S of England 
have an entire sdection of the "below-stairs" rooms dedicated to the care and 
cleaning of clothes, and soft furnishings..

 I've visited one where a whole stable-like building -  only a few steps across 
a cobbled yard from the Servants' Entrance - has the ground floor dedicated to 
the entire operation, in appropriate sections. Boiler room, washing room with 
lots of tubs and early agitation devices, mangling room complete with several 
mangles, drying room with indoor lines, ironing room, - and sewing room with 
treadle-operated sewing machines. The Upper floor of the same building was 
servant's bedrooms. 

Castle Drogo, built after 1900 as "the last Castle-build" in England - also has 
a similar section of the "support facilities" .

Julian Wilson,
 in "old" Jersey,
 National Trust Member

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Re: [h-cost] An amusing error?

[Sharon Collier]

Right, it's not an ironing device, but something to wring out clothes. You'd
have thought the author would have done his homework! 

-Original Message-
From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On
Behalf Of Charlene Charette
Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 1:37 AM
To: Historical Costume
Subject: Re: [h-cost] An amusing error?

"Mangle" is the British term for what Americans call a "wringer".

--Charlene


On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 3:03 AM, Sharon Collier 
wrote:
> I am reading a book, "What Jane Austen Ate and Charles Dickens Knew" 
> and in the part about laundry, the author says, "This made laundry day 
> such a chore that many better-off households hired a washerwoman to do 
> it, since immense amounts of water had to be boiled, the clothes blued 
> and starched by hand, ironed, and then put through a mangle, a 
> tablelike contraption with two rollers through which you rolled the
clothing until it was pressed."
> I would hate to have him doing my laundry!
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Re: [h-cost] An amusing error?

[Charlene Charette]

"Mangle" is the British term for what Americans call a "wringer".

--Charlene


On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 3:03 AM, Sharon Collier  wrote:
> I am reading a book, "What Jane Austen Ate and Charles Dickens Knew" and in
> the part about laundry, the author says, "This made laundry day such a chore
> that many better-off households hired a washerwoman to do it, since immense
> amounts of water had to be boiled, the clothes blued and starched by hand,
> ironed, and then put through a mangle, a tablelike contraption with two
> rollers through which you rolled the clothing until it was pressed."
> I would hate to have him doing my laundry!
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[h-cost] An amusing error?

[Sharon Collier]

I am reading a book, "What Jane Austen Ate and Charles Dickens Knew" and in
the part about laundry, the author says, "This made laundry day such a chore
that many better-off households hired a washerwoman to do it, since immense
amounts of water had to be boiled, the clothes blued and starched by hand,
ironed, and then put through a mangle, a tablelike contraption with two
rollers through which you rolled the clothing until it was pressed." 
I would hate to have him doing my laundry!
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Re: [h-cost] 100 percent silk velvet

[Sharon Collier]

I just want one of every color they show there. Yummy! 

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From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On
Behalf Of Lavolta Press
Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 3:10 PM
To: h-cost...@indra.com
Subject: [h-cost] 100 percent silk velvet

I ran across this page when looking for embroidered silks (which these are
not).

http://www.anjooriansilks.com/gallery/detail.asp?iCat=154&iPic=5313

If you have any questions about the fiber, etc., please contact the website
owners (not me).

Fran
Lavolta Press
Books on historic clothing, including
The Lady's Stratagem: A Repository of 1820s Instructions for the Toilet,
Mantua-Making, Stay-Making, Millinery & etiquette www.lavoltapress.com
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