Re: [h-cost] The Young Victoria's Film Costumes
There are painted costumes. I put online an interview with the film's costume designer, Sandy Powell. She explains about the painted costumes in the interview. http://www.costumegallery.com/Victoriafilm/SandyPowell.htm Penny Ladnier Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com 14 websites of fashion, textiles, costume history ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] The Young Victoria's Film Costumes
I kept looking and found a description that stated that it was handpainted. Sincerely, Rebecca Rautine > Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 18:21:43 -0800 > To: h-cost...@indra.com > From: joa...@surewest.net > Subject: Re: [h-cost] The Young Victoria's Film Costumes > > At 06:02 PM 1/25/2010, you wrote: > > > >I looked at many of the photos on the site and found one that I had > >a question about... this one: > >http://www.flickr.com/photos/moorina/3854505420/in/photostream/ > >Does it look painted to you > >Sincerely, > >Rebecca Rautine > > Yes, it does look painted to me. > > > Joan Jurancich > joa...@surewest.net > > ___ > h-costume mailing list > h-costume@mail.indra.com > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390707/direct/01/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] The Young Victoria's Film Costumes
At 06:02 PM 1/25/2010, you wrote: I looked at many of the photos on the site and found one that I had a question about... this one: http://www.flickr.com/photos/moorina/3854505420/in/photostream/ Does it look painted to you Sincerely, Rebecca Rautine Yes, it does look painted to me. Joan Jurancich joa...@surewest.net ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] The Young Victoria's Film Costumes
I looked at many of the photos on the site and found one that I had a question about... this one: http://www.flickr.com/photos/moorina/3854505420/in/photostream/ Does it look painted to you Sincerely, Rebecca Rautine _ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390710/direct/01/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] The Young Victoria's Film Costumes
Wedding http://tinyurl.com/y8p9ego http://tinyurl.com/ydp58fu >From the original site: "The wedding of Queen Victoria had more of an impact than most and actually started an entirely new trend when she decided not to wear the traditional royal silver bridal gown. Instead Queen Victoria gave the white wedding dress completely new meaning and symbolism when she married her beloved Prince Albert in a simple dress, made of white satin, trimmed with Honiton lace, with Honiton long veil and a wreath of orange blossoms to represent purity. It was then that white became the dominant, traditional choice, symbolizing purity and maidenhood. - Emma's Wedding Diary" http://tinyurl.com/yap9pgb http://tinyurl.com/yeajtz6 Bottom of page is Victoria's wedding shoes http://www.bridalinquirer.com/blog/2008/12/ newspaper but only the photo http://tinyurl.com/yaz7qgj Someones picture of the wedding dress (?) http://www.flickr.com/photos/moorina/3853817701/ print http://www.picturehistory.com/images/products/6/4/8/prod_64809.jpg painting http://www.philipmould.com/catalogue.php?sid=2509 little over half way down, painting,looks to be the gown http://www.dressaday.com/archive/2006_08_01_archive.html picture http://tinyurl.com/yew4jrx Coronation gloves, top is replica of QV,bottom QEII original http://www.kipar.org/baroque-costumes/photos/embroidery/bath_gloves.jpg http://tinyurl.com/yda7rx7 Coronation dress (news paper,modern) http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/2818231.stm print http://www.mainlesson.com/books/tappan/victoria/zpage110.gif painting http://tinyurl.com/ydldldf ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] The term "hennin"
If you don't live in the US, you need to use a US web proxy in order to read the books. At 10:00 2010-01-25, you wrote: Robin wrote: >If you're seeing the whole page that has "coiffet" as its first entry, you're >on the right page. Below that is "coiffure," which has a bunch of subsections. >Look in the right-hand column of that page, toward the bottom, long paragraph >dated 1428. But I'm not! By "virtual clipping" I meant a reproduction of a section of the page not much more than an inch wide. Clicking on it had no effect. Kate Bunting Librarian & 17th century reenactor ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Washing linen trousers
I have two pairs of linen slacks that I machine wash in cold water and dry on low air. They shrank just a tad, which is fine since my legs are on the shorter length, and not a problem around the waist as they expand on warming up to my body. I won't dry clean anything if I can help it, and was willing to risk it on linen pants. YMMV. Kimiko Small http://www.kimiko1.com "Be the change you want to see in the world." ~ Ghandi The Tudor Lady's Wardrobe pattern http://www.margospatterns.com/ From: Claire Clarke I'm not exactly in the habit of going to to the dry cleaners. I was wondering if it would be a bad idea to wash these trousers in the washing machine. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] mending by embroidery
For some time now, I have been repairing wearable textiles which have been damaged by moth or bleach using a variety of embroidery to make the damage decorative. I am aware that some of the "hippy" style used this same technique and that there was an elaborate mending process in the 19th century that was especially used for linen. Question: are?there any historical ?references to this method in other times? Kathleen? ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] The Young Victoria's Film Costumes
Penny, I have the "Lace" book if this would be of use to you. In researching images for dressing my Victoria doll, I found lots of photos at webshots and elsewhere.? I of course do not know what the copy wright issues are. Looking forward to the film.. Kathleen -Original Message- From: "Penny Ladnier" Sent 1/25/2010 4:15:14 AM To: "h-costume" Subject: [h-cost] The Young Victoria's Film CostumesI am working on an online area about the costumes worn in the film The Young Victoria. I have full press access to the resources for the film costumes. I am researching Victoria's actual garments. Does anyone know of online images of Victoria's actual wedding and coronation dresses? Also, I am looking for the actual newspaper articles with or without illustrations, paintings, photos of the actual garments, etc.. BTW, the film has been released to more U.S. theaters this past weekend. I know Regal Cinemas is now playing it in their larger theaters. The film's costumes and hairstyles are wonderful and well worth seeing. Penny Ladnier Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com 14 websites of fashion, textiles, costume history ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Washing linen trousers
This would be my take. too.? I manage to aquire a lot of 'linen' ready-mades; most of which are labeled dry'clean only' and washing by hand in cold water with woolite does just fine.? I also agree that it is the unknown content?of the linings, facings, trim and etc that may alter the return to 'new' condition.? The suggestion re silk long undies is a good choice tor extended wear between washing.? True fiber content is a real problem especially with so much of the fabric being produced off shore. Kathleen -Original Message- From: "Carmen Beaudry" Sent 1/25/2010 8:37:29 AM To: "Historical Costume" Subject: Re: [h-cost] Washing linen trousers> I would venture that handwashing the trousers in cold water would cause no > damage, especially since the owner is willing to press/starch as needed. > > Denise B As long as the trousers are kept out of the dryer, they should be fine UNLESS they are very heavily interfaced. The reason one doesn't wash suits doesn't have much to do with the actual fabric, but quite a bit with the extensive interfacings. However, it is a gamble, and if it were an item for which I had paid a lot, I would be inclined to have them cleaned. Melusine ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Washing linen trousers
I would venture that handwashing the trousers in cold water would cause no damage, especially since the owner is willing to press/starch as needed. Denise B As long as the trousers are kept out of the dryer, they should be fine UNLESS they are very heavily interfaced. The reason one doesn't wash suits doesn't have much to do with the actual fabric, but quite a bit with the extensive interfacings. However, it is a gamble, and if it were an item for which I had paid a lot, I would be inclined to have them cleaned. Melusine ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Washing linen trousers
In a message dated 1/25/2010 5:25:37 AM Eastern Standard Time, angha...@adam.com.au writes: Can anyone else think of a reason I shouldn't wash them? Care labeling regulations only require one option, so a manufacturer can opt for the "safest" one. However, there could be interfacings or something you can't see that wouldn't wash well. For instance, men's trousers might have hair canvas inside, and that wouldn't wash. We are fortunate to have so many discount dry cleaners around that it is not big expense, and it does save one the trouble of ironing. Ann Wass ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] The Young Victoria's Film Costumes
In a message dated 1/25/2010 5:11:48 AM Eastern Standard Time, linda.wal...@dsl.pipex.com writes: I'm afraid that the best images I know of are in a book:- "Royal Honiton Lace" by Elsie Luxton and Yusai Fukuyama; Batsford, London, 1988, ISBN 0 7134 5764 3. The authors were given permission by the Queen to publish photogrtaphs from the Royal Archives at Windsor Castle - so the images are not likely to be freely available on the web, I fear. Also good images in Kay Staniland's "In Royal Fashion," but again, those images won't be available for use. In that book, we learn that the Honiton lace flounce was removed from the wedding dress and re-used on later garments. Evidently the flounce does still exist as a flat textile. (She also wore her veil again much later--it is shown in an 1893 photograph.) Sorry, Penny, I know that isn't exactly what you asked, but I hadn't looked at the book in awhile and had a good time finding these things. Ann Wass ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] The term "hennin"
Kate Bunting wrote: Robin wrote: If you're seeing the whole page that has "coiffet" as its first entry, you're on the right page. Below that is "coiffure," which has a bunch of subsections. Look in the right-hand column of that page, toward the bottom, long paragraph dated 1428. But I'm not! By "virtual clipping" I meant a reproduction of a section of the page not much more than an inch wide. Clicking on it had no effect. I have no idea what to advise ... but I found I had to tinker on the page a bit to make it work. Try putting "hennin" in the search box and running the search again, and clicking on a few of the other options, to see if it frees up the image. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Washing linen trousers
> Dry cleaning is a process that maintains all/most of the finishes put on the fabric during the mfg process; this is the answer I got form our regional manger after I asked why linen/wool/silk (which all existed for centuries before drycleaning was invented) were always so marked on the bolts. The fabric -will- change when you wash it- shrink/get fuzzy/twist etc; which is why all the books tell you to pre wash fabric before cutting- I usually advise washing a piece to see if you can live with the change, but it is too late for you to do that. So, if you like them the way they are, I am afraid the Dry Cleaner is in your future; if you want to gamble on the result you can wash them, but they will not come out the same. I disagree. Manufacturers are required by law to state a washing method on the care label. They are also required to provide documentation that the stated method will not harm the clothing over the expected lifetime of the garment. If they chose to state "dry clean only" they are not required to do the extensive (or *as* extensive) testing necessary to prove the method is suitable. Often companies choose "dry clean only" as a cost/time saving choice for them, not because it's the only or best way to clean the garment. I also suspect that many high end lines recommend that method as an indicator of quality (right or wrong) as perceived by their intended customer base. There are *many* people who dry clean EVERYTHING except socks and underwear. I would venture that handwashing the trousers in cold water would cause no damage, especially since the owner is willing to press/starch as needed. Denise B ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Washing linen trousers
Dry cleaning is a process that maintains all/most of the finishes put on the fabric during the mfg process; this is the answer I got form our regional manger after I asked why linen/wool/silk (which all existed for centuries before drycleaning was invented) were always so marked on the bolts. The fabric -will- change when you wash it- shrink/get fuzzy/twist etc; which is why all the books tell you to pre wash fabric before cutting- I usually advise washing a piece to see if you can live with the change, but it is too late for you to do that. So, if you like them the way they are, I am afraid the Dry Cleaner is in your future; if you want to gamble on the result you can wash them, but they will not come out the same. Sorry! best advice- get a pair of silk or thermal underliners and you can wear them several times between cleanings, if they never touch your skin. Hope this helps, Betsy -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Claire Clarke Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 4:25 AM To: h-costume@mail.indra.com Subject: [h-cost] Washing linen trousers Hi all, This is not a historical question, for which I apologise, but I thought if anyone had sensible opinions on this it would be the people on this list. I recently bought some fairly upmarket linen trousers for work (on sale of course J). It wasn't until after I wore them that I noticed the care label said 'dry clean only'. I don't have anything else that is dry clean only, so I'm not exactly in the habit of going to to the dry cleaners. I was wondering if it would be a bad idea to wash these trousers in the washing machine. They are actually a linen-cotton blend, a very fine, crisp material with a slight slub. They are styled to take advantage of the crispness of the material (fine pleats around the waistband, turn ups, etc). I see no immediate cause why I should not wash them. I accept that they'll become very crumply, but I'm more willing to iron than I am to dryclean. Can anyone else think of a reason I shouldn't wash them? Thanks muchly, Claire ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Washing linen trousers
Hi all, This is not a historical question, for which I apologise, but I thought if anyone had sensible opinions on this it would be the people on this list. I recently bought some fairly upmarket linen trousers for work (on sale of course J). It wasn't until after I wore them that I noticed the care label said 'dry clean only'. I don't have anything else that is dry clean only, so I'm not exactly in the habit of going to to the dry cleaners. I was wondering if it would be a bad idea to wash these trousers in the washing machine. They are actually a linen-cotton blend, a very fine, crisp material with a slight slub. They are styled to take advantage of the crispness of the material (fine pleats around the waistband, turn ups, etc). I see no immediate cause why I should not wash them. I accept that they'll become very crumply, but I'm more willing to iron than I am to dryclean. Can anyone else think of a reason I shouldn't wash them? Thanks muchly, Claire ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] The Young Victoria's Film Costumes
Well - there's an image of the Winterhalter portrait of Queen Victoria in her coronation robes at "The Official Website of the British Monarchy" here:- http://www.royal.gov.uk/HistoryoftheMonarchy/KingsandQueensoftheUnitedKingdom/TheHanoverians/Victoria.aspx [click to enlarge the 'related image' beside the article] And you might find something at the Griswold Digital Archive of Documents on Hand Weaving, Lace, and Related Topics, here:- http://www.handweaving.net/Home.aspx [click on the Griswold link, then the 'keyword' search option has choices inclusing images]. I'm afraid that the best images I know of are in a book:- "Royal Honiton Lace" by Elsie Luxton and Yusai Fukuyama; Batsford, London, 1988, ISBN 0 7134 5764 3. The authors were given permission by the Queen to publish photogrtaphs from the Royal Archives at Windsor Castle - so the images are not likely to be freely available on the web, I fear. There is, or was, an exhibition at Buckingham Palace of royal garments, but I understand from those who saw it that Victoria's famous wedding lace was a disappointment. For example, the veil was merely a poor substitute to give an impression. I can't remember now whether it was too fragile to display, or whether - like much lace at the time - it had been re-made into other garments, (perhaps a christening gown?). There might be an exhibition catalogue surviving somewhere on the web. Good luck - I'd like to see the film and learn more about the costumes. Linda Walton, (lacemaker in High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, U.K., which is not far from Windsor.) Penny Ladnier wrote: I am working on an online area about the costumes worn in the film The Young Victoria. I have full press access to the resources for the film costumes. I am researching Victoria's actual garments. Does anyone know of online images of Victoria's actual wedding and coronation dresses? Also, I am looking for the actual newspaper articles with or without illustrations, paintings, photos of the actual garments, etc.. BTW, the film has been released to more U.S. theaters this past weekend. I know Regal Cinemas is now playing it in their larger theaters. The film's costumes and hairstyles are wonderful and well worth seeing. Penny Ladnier Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com 14 websites of fashion, textiles, costume history ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] The Young Victoria's Film Costumes
I am working on an online area about the costumes worn in the film The Young Victoria. I have full press access to the resources for the film costumes. I am researching Victoria's actual garments. Does anyone know of online images of Victoria's actual wedding and coronation dresses? Also, I am looking for the actual newspaper articles with or without illustrations, paintings, photos of the actual garments, etc.. BTW, the film has been released to more U.S. theaters this past weekend. I know Regal Cinemas is now playing it in their larger theaters. The film's costumes and hairstyles are wonderful and well worth seeing. Penny Ladnier Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com 14 websites of fashion, textiles, costume history ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] The term "hennin"
Robin wrote: >If you're seeing the whole page that has "coiffet" as its first entry, you're >on the right page. Below that is "coiffure," which has a bunch of subsections. >Look in the right-hand column of that page, toward the bottom, long paragraph >dated 1428. But I'm not! By "virtual clipping" I meant a reproduction of a section of the page not much more than an inch wide. Clicking on it had no effect. Kate Bunting Librarian & 17th century reenactor The University of Derby has a published policy regarding email and reserves the right to monitor email traffic. If you believe this email was sent to you in error, please notify the sender and delete this email. Please direct any concerns to info...@derby.ac.uk The policy is available here: http://www.derby.ac.uk/LIS/Email-Policy ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
