Re: [h-cost] artificial whalebone

2011-11-30 Thread Carol Kocian


On Nov 29, 2011, at 7:31 PM, cc2010m...@cs.com wrote:


In a message dated 11/17/2011 1:00:47 PM Central Standard Time,
h-costume-requ...@indra.com writes:

Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 16:24:16 -0500
From: Natalie natali...@gmail.com

Someone suggested to me once that cutting strips from a milk jug  
makes
wonderful boning for smaller projects, like dolls. I haven't had  
time to

test it myself, but it seems like a pretty good idea. You can always
double up on layers if you need it a bit stiffer too.

Natalie


I don't know about milk jug plastic and corsets, but I do know that  
milk
jug plastic is just the thing to cut a collar stay replacement on a  
man's

shirt.

Henry W. Osier
President, Armed Costumers Guild
On Staff for TeslaCon 3 in 2012, Chicon 7 in 2012, and Chicago  
TARDIS 2012




I've heard of using bleach bottle plastic for corset boning — bleach  
bottles being sturdier than milk jugs. The lighter plastic boning  
(like featherboning or Rigilene) may not provide enough support,  
depending on the size of the person, how much support her figure  
needs. That and comfort are not an issue for a doll, of course. The  
problem is, corsets are a lot of work and some of those boning ideas  
will require some experimentation.


-Carol
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Re: [h-cost] h-costume Digest, Vol 10, Issue 327

2011-11-30 Thread lynlee o

Milk jug plastic is very meliable and is probably fine for short term use but 
will break down with time into sharp pieces, probably to be more 
environmentally friendly in land fills, so if the garment is going to be washed 
(like a shirt collar) or going to stay intact for extended periods (like a 
doll) you need something more durable. I have used the clear, self supporting 
plastic from boxes (e.g. shirt or Christmas decoration boxes) to great effect. 
2 layers of lamination plastic stuck together makes good template plastic by 
the way, you might might try a single layer with no paper as it comes in 
different thicknesses and is designed to last a while and take the heat of 
ironing.
 

 
I don't know about milk jug plastic and corsets, but I do know that milk 
jug plastic is just the thing to cut a collar stay replacement on a man's 
shirt.
 
Henry W. Osier
President, Armed Costumers Guild
On Staff for TeslaCon 3 in 2012, Chicon 7 in 2012, and Chicago TARDIS 2012


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Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 17:30:17 -0800
Subject: Re: [h-cost] artificial whalebone

I'll echo that, Henry. It's too soft for most purposes, but for collar  
stays, perfect.
 
Also good for mask parts, visors, and the like, which need stiffening  
but flexibility.
 
  
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[h-cost] Plastic stays for Doll Costume

2011-11-30 Thread Sharon Collier
I've forgotten who the original poster of this thread was, so I'm just
making a new post.
As I was reading the latest, I had a brain wave. What about using hot melt
glue strips? If you make strips on glass, it comes off easily (under water,
if I remember correctly). The strips will be flat on one side. Hot melt is
malleable, so I'm not sure if these would be too soft, but it's easy and
worth a try.
Sharon C.
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Re: [h-cost] Plastic stays for Doll Costume

2011-11-30 Thread R Lloyd Mitchell
For corsets, I use round toothpics. Collars and such, I find plastic casings 
for most store wrapped 
items? (from needles to hairbrushes). great.. My dolls?for historical ?costumes 
ate 14/16.? The toothpics work out just right for scale. Popscile sticks ar
e just right for busks.? They are easily cut and can be 'carved' for detail.
Working with this size doll, Hunniset patterns as drawn, and also Fran 
Grimble's patterns are mostly the same scale...for 19th and 20th C clothing.
?I jigger Waugh, Hunniset and Grimble for the right shape of the period you are 
working on
.
? -Original Message-
From: Sharon Collier shar...@collierfam.com
Sent 11/30/2011 5:30:48 PM
To: 'Historical Costume' h-cost...@indra.com
Subject: [h-cost] Plast.
ic stays for Doll CostumeI've forgotten who the original poster of this thread 
was, so I'm just
making a new post.
As I was reading the latest, I had a brain wave. What about using hot melt
glue strips? If you make strips on glass, it comes off easily (under water,
if I remember correctly). The strips will be flat on one side. Hot melt is
malleable, so I'm not sure if these would be too soft, but it's easy and
worth a try.
Sharon C.
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Re: [h-cost] Plastic stays for Doll Costume

2011-11-30 Thread cw15147-hcos...@yahoo.com
Having had my fun with hot glue, I say: no, too soft. For it to be 
rigid enough, it would have to be thick, and that makes it not very good as a 
stay.


Claudine




 From: Sharon Collier sha...@collierfam.com
To: 'Historical Costume' h-cost...@indra.com 
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 2:30 PM
Subject: [h-cost] Plastic stays for Doll Costume
 
I've forgotten who the original poster of this thread was, so I'm just
making a new post.
As I was reading the latest, I had a brain wave. What about using hot melt
glue strips? If you make strips on glass, it comes off easily (under water,
if I remember correctly). The strips will be flat on one side. Hot melt is
malleable, so I'm not sure if these would be too soft, but it's easy and
worth a try.
Sharon C.
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Re: [h-cost] Plastic stays for Doll Costume

2011-11-30 Thread Sharon Collier
What about thin metal, encased in hot glue to prevent fabric tearing?
Sharon 

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Subject: Re: [h-cost] Plastic stays for Doll Costume

Having had my fun with hot glue, I say: no, too soft. For it to be rigid
enough, it would have to be thick, and that makes it not very good as a
stay.


Claudine




 From: Sharon Collier sha...@collierfam.com
To: 'Historical Costume' h-cost...@indra.com 
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 2:30 PM
Subject: [h-cost] Plastic stays for Doll Costume
 
I've forgotten who the original poster of this thread was, so I'm just
making a new post.
As I was reading the latest, I had a brain wave. What about using hot melt
glue strips? If you make strips on glass, it comes off easily (under water,
if I remember correctly). The strips will be flat on one side. Hot melt is
malleable, so I'm not sure if these would be too soft, but it's easy and
worth a try.
Sharon C.
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Re: [h-cost] Plastic stays for Doll Costume

2011-11-30 Thread Carol Kocian


There's not much risk of tearing, since a doll won't move. You could  
use the metal on its own. Maybe even cut up paperclip or hairpins.


-Carol


On Nov 30, 2011, at 7:18 PM, Sharon Collier wrote:


What about thin metal, encased in hot glue to prevent fabric tearing?
Sharon

-Original Message-
From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume- 
boun...@indra.com] On

Behalf Of cw15147-hcos...@yahoo.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 3:01 PM
To: Historical Costume
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Plastic stays for Doll Costume

Having had my fun with hot glue, I say: no, too soft. For it to be  
rigid
enough, it would have to be thick, and that makes it not very good  
as a

stay.


Claudine


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