Re: [h-cost] artificial whalebone
On Nov 29, 2011, at 7:31 PM, cc2010m...@cs.com wrote: In a message dated 11/17/2011 1:00:47 PM Central Standard Time, h-costume-requ...@indra.com writes: Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 16:24:16 -0500 From: Natalie natali...@gmail.com Someone suggested to me once that cutting strips from a milk jug makes wonderful boning for smaller projects, like dolls. I haven't had time to test it myself, but it seems like a pretty good idea. You can always double up on layers if you need it a bit stiffer too. Natalie I don't know about milk jug plastic and corsets, but I do know that milk jug plastic is just the thing to cut a collar stay replacement on a man's shirt. Henry W. Osier President, Armed Costumers Guild On Staff for TeslaCon 3 in 2012, Chicon 7 in 2012, and Chicago TARDIS 2012 I've heard of using bleach bottle plastic for corset boning — bleach bottles being sturdier than milk jugs. The lighter plastic boning (like featherboning or Rigilene) may not provide enough support, depending on the size of the person, how much support her figure needs. That and comfort are not an issue for a doll, of course. The problem is, corsets are a lot of work and some of those boning ideas will require some experimentation. -Carol ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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Milk jug plastic is very meliable and is probably fine for short term use but will break down with time into sharp pieces, probably to be more environmentally friendly in land fills, so if the garment is going to be washed (like a shirt collar) or going to stay intact for extended periods (like a doll) you need something more durable. I have used the clear, self supporting plastic from boxes (e.g. shirt or Christmas decoration boxes) to great effect. 2 layers of lamination plastic stuck together makes good template plastic by the way, you might might try a single layer with no paper as it comes in different thicknesses and is designed to last a while and take the heat of ironing. I don't know about milk jug plastic and corsets, but I do know that milk jug plastic is just the thing to cut a collar stay replacement on a man's shirt. Henry W. Osier President, Armed Costumers Guild On Staff for TeslaCon 3 in 2012, Chicon 7 in 2012, and Chicago TARDIS 2012 --Forwarded Message Attachment-- From: the3t...@gmail.com To: h-cost...@indra.com Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 17:30:17 -0800 Subject: Re: [h-cost] artificial whalebone I'll echo that, Henry. It's too soft for most purposes, but for collar stays, perfect. Also good for mask parts, visors, and the like, which need stiffening but flexibility. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Plastic stays for Doll Costume
I've forgotten who the original poster of this thread was, so I'm just making a new post. As I was reading the latest, I had a brain wave. What about using hot melt glue strips? If you make strips on glass, it comes off easily (under water, if I remember correctly). The strips will be flat on one side. Hot melt is malleable, so I'm not sure if these would be too soft, but it's easy and worth a try. Sharon C. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Plastic stays for Doll Costume
For corsets, I use round toothpics. Collars and such, I find plastic casings for most store wrapped items? (from needles to hairbrushes). great.. My dolls?for historical ?costumes ate 14/16.? The toothpics work out just right for scale. Popscile sticks ar e just right for busks.? They are easily cut and can be 'carved' for detail. Working with this size doll, Hunniset patterns as drawn, and also Fran Grimble's patterns are mostly the same scale...for 19th and 20th C clothing. ?I jigger Waugh, Hunniset and Grimble for the right shape of the period you are working on . ? -Original Message- From: Sharon Collier shar...@collierfam.com Sent 11/30/2011 5:30:48 PM To: 'Historical Costume' h-cost...@indra.com Subject: [h-cost] Plast. ic stays for Doll CostumeI've forgotten who the original poster of this thread was, so I'm just making a new post. As I was reading the latest, I had a brain wave. What about using hot melt glue strips? If you make strips on glass, it comes off easily (under water, if I remember correctly). The strips will be flat on one side. Hot melt is malleable, so I'm not sure if these would be too soft, but it's easy and worth a try. Sharon C. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Plastic stays for Doll Costume
Having had my fun with hot glue, I say: no, too soft. For it to be rigid enough, it would have to be thick, and that makes it not very good as a stay. Claudine From: Sharon Collier sha...@collierfam.com To: 'Historical Costume' h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 2:30 PM Subject: [h-cost] Plastic stays for Doll Costume I've forgotten who the original poster of this thread was, so I'm just making a new post. As I was reading the latest, I had a brain wave. What about using hot melt glue strips? If you make strips on glass, it comes off easily (under water, if I remember correctly). The strips will be flat on one side. Hot melt is malleable, so I'm not sure if these would be too soft, but it's easy and worth a try. Sharon C. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Plastic stays for Doll Costume
What about thin metal, encased in hot glue to prevent fabric tearing? Sharon -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of cw15147-hcos...@yahoo.com Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 3:01 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Plastic stays for Doll Costume Having had my fun with hot glue, I say: no, too soft. For it to be rigid enough, it would have to be thick, and that makes it not very good as a stay. Claudine From: Sharon Collier sha...@collierfam.com To: 'Historical Costume' h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 2:30 PM Subject: [h-cost] Plastic stays for Doll Costume I've forgotten who the original poster of this thread was, so I'm just making a new post. As I was reading the latest, I had a brain wave. What about using hot melt glue strips? If you make strips on glass, it comes off easily (under water, if I remember correctly). The strips will be flat on one side. Hot melt is malleable, so I'm not sure if these would be too soft, but it's easy and worth a try. Sharon C. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Plastic stays for Doll Costume
There's not much risk of tearing, since a doll won't move. You could use the metal on its own. Maybe even cut up paperclip or hairpins. -Carol On Nov 30, 2011, at 7:18 PM, Sharon Collier wrote: What about thin metal, encased in hot glue to prevent fabric tearing? Sharon -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume- boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of cw15147-hcos...@yahoo.com Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 3:01 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Plastic stays for Doll Costume Having had my fun with hot glue, I say: no, too soft. For it to be rigid enough, it would have to be thick, and that makes it not very good as a stay. Claudine ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume