Re: [h-cost] t-top? Tank?

2014-01-09 Thread Kate Bunting
Ann Catelli wrote:


 Tank top because it was worn by tank crewmen, who'd strip down to that
layer, UK vest layer, because it was very very hot inside a tank.

When I first heard the term in about 1970 I wondered if it was something to
do with military tanks. I've searched the H-cost archives and can't find
the thread giving the swimsuit explanation, but Wikipedia agrees with it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweater_vest

Kate Bunting
Retired librarian  17th century reenactor
Derby, UK
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Re: [h-cost] t-top? Tank?

2014-01-09 Thread Monica Spence
A shirt with tiny straps is called a cami or camisole.
Monica

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Tank top because it was worn by tank crewmen, who'd strip down to that
layer, UK vest layer, because it was very very hot inside a tank.

Ann in CT





On Tuesday, January 7, 2014 4:20 AM, Kate Bunting katembunt...@gmail.com
wrote:
 
Here in the UK we would call it a vest, because it resembles the
undergarment of that name. (Yes, I know a vest is a waistcoat in the US.)
Out of interest, I looked at the website of a clothing company I use and
they call them vests or occasionally camis, but the distinction between them
is unclear.
I first heard the term tank top 40 years ago to describe a sleeveless
knitted pullover to be worn over a shirt for warmth. The name always puzzled
me until I learned from this list that Americans used to call a swimming
pool a tank and that the garment was named from those 1920s men's swimsuits.
I don't think we would ever call the lightweight garment a tank over here.

Kate Bunting
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Re: [h-cost] t-top? Tank?

2014-01-09 Thread Charlene C
FWIW, here's what the OED has to say:


tank suit   n. U.S. a (ladies') one-piece bathing-suit with scooped
neck (cf. maillot n. 2).

1959   P. Roth Goodbye, Columbus ii. 20   She wore a black tank suit
and went barefooted.
1979   Dancemagazine Feb. 108/3   In Moth Dance, the lines of Hermans'
tensed, slender body, in tanksuit and reflecting sunglasses, become
clearer as the semidarkness grows lighter.


tank top   n.  (a) the top of a tank;  (b) a sleeveless upper garment
with round neck and deep armholes, freq. of knitted material and
similar to the top of a one-piece bathing-suit, worn by men or women;
cf. tank suit n.   above.

1900   Engin. Mag. 19 678   The margin plates of the tank top are put
on, and the tank-top plating itself.
1968   New Yorker 27 Jan. 25   Miss Farrell—a tall, pretty ballerina
dressed in a purple tank top and baggy rubber warm-up pants.
1971   Observer 1 Aug. 22/3   A favourite Paris idea is to put little
woolly vests or tank tops over shirts and under suit jackets.
1977   C. Miller  K. Swift Words  Women 157   Even the latter have
given up whalebone corsets and starched winged collars without
assuming they have to switch to miniskirts or tank tops.


--Charlene


On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 4:13 AM, Kate Bunting katembunt...@gmail.com wrote:
 Ann Catelli wrote:


  Tank top because it was worn by tank crewmen, who'd strip down to that
 layer, UK vest layer, because it was very very hot inside a tank.

 When I first heard the term in about 1970 I wondered if it was something to
 do with military tanks. I've searched the H-cost archives and can't find
 the thread giving the swimsuit explanation, but Wikipedia agrees with it.
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweater_vest

 Kate Bunting
 Retired librarian  17th century reenactor
 Derby, UK
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