Re: [h-cost] h-costume on facebook?

2015-08-30 Thread Genie

Many of the groups on FB are closed/invitation only, or you request to be added.

there are options if you don't want to set up an open group.

FB doesn't have to be a black hole.

-Original Message-
>From: Cin 
>Sent: Aug 29, 2015 2:35 PM
>To: Historical Costume 
>Subject: Re: [h-cost] h-costume on facebook?
>
>Yes, https://www.facebook.com/groups/gbacg/ and each Guild event often has
>it's own FB event announcement.
>
>--cin
>Cynthia Barnes
>
>On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 11:13 AM, Carol Kocian  wrote:
>
>> Does h-costume have a presence on facebook? Someone was just asking for an
>> all-era sewing group, not just for patterns, not just for challenges, but a
>> place to discuss and ask questions.
>>
>> Thanks!
>> -Carol
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Re: [h-cost] h-costume on facebook?

2015-08-30 Thread costumrs
I believe that is the FB page for the Greater Bay Area Costumers Guild. 
Sandy


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 Original message From: Wicked Frau 
 Date:08/29/2015  2:41 PM  (GMT-06:00) 
To: Historical Costume  Subject: Re: 
[h-cost] h-costume on facebook? 
That is the official facebook page for this list?  I never knew there was
one.

On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 12:35 PM, Cin  wrote:

> Yes, https://www.facebook.com/groups/gbacg/ and each Guild event often has
> it's own FB event announcement.
>
> --cin
> Cynthia Barnes
>
> On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 11:13 AM, Carol Kocian 
> wrote:
>
> > Does h-costume have a presence on facebook? Someone was just asking for
> an
> > all-era sewing group, not just for patterns, not just for challenges,
> but a
> > place to discuss and ask questions.
> >
> > Thanks!
> > -Carol
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Re: [h-cost] h-costume on facebook?

2015-08-30 Thread Carol Kocian
It is, and they seem to fit the criteria of an all-era group. Unless they limit 
membership to the Greater Bay Area?

I think the person asking (on facebook) wanted to see if there was a group 
already established before starting her own. There are a lot with a specific 
era of focus.

-Carol


> On Aug 30, 2015, at 10:35 AM, costumrs  wrote:
> 
> I believe that is the FB page for the Greater Bay Area Costumers Guild. 
> Sandy
> 
> 
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone
> 
>  Original message From: Wicked Frau 
>  Date:08/29/2015  2:41 PM  (GMT-06:00) 
> To: Historical Costume  Subject: 
> Re: [h-cost] h-costume on facebook? 
> That is the official facebook page for this list?  I never knew there 
> was
> one.
> 
> On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 12:35 PM, Cin  wrote:
> 
>> Yes, https://www.facebook.com/groups/gbacg/ and each Guild event often has
>> it's own FB event announcement.
>> 
>> --cin
>> Cynthia Barnes
>> 
>> On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 11:13 AM, Carol Kocian 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Does h-costume have a presence on facebook? Someone was just asking for
>> an
>>> all-era sewing group, not just for patterns, not just for challenges,
>> but a
>>> place to discuss and ask questions.
>>> 
>>> Thanks!
>>> -Carol
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Re: [h-cost] h-costume on facebook?

2015-08-30 Thread Lavolta Press
I don't think many FB groups are invitation only or require a private 
request to a moderator to be added. But to post, you do have to join by 
clicking a "Join this group" button.


That said, FB is generally not a venue where long, substantive 
discussions take place. Its tiny message boxes encourage people not to 
write anything longer than two lines. You can post a longer message--the 
box expands to some extent--but many people don't.  The other thing 
about FB is that its basic setup, the culture the company has strongly 
encouraged, is for people to get torqued about how many people "like" 
what they say (and by extension themselves), which also does not 
encourage substantive discussion. Collecting likes is silly and 
juvenile, but it does appeal to something in human nature. There is no 
real substitute for Majordomo and Yahoo type groups.


Fran
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On 8/30/2015 6:38 AM, Genie wrote:

Many of the groups on FB are closed/invitation only, or you request to be added.

there are options if you don't want to set up an open group.

FB doesn't have to be a black hole.

-Original Message-

From: Cin 
Sent: Aug 29, 2015 2:35 PM
To: Historical Costume 
Subject: Re: [h-cost] h-costume on facebook?

Yes, https://www.facebook.com/groups/gbacg/ and each Guild event often has
it's own FB event announcement.

--cin
Cynthia Barnes

On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 11:13 AM, Carol Kocian  wrote:


Does h-costume have a presence on facebook? Someone was just asking for an
all-era sewing group, not just for patterns, not just for challenges, but a
place to discuss and ask questions.

Thanks!
-Carol

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Re: [h-cost] h-costume on facebook?

2015-08-30 Thread Lavolta Press
I don't think GBACG restricts their FB membership to local residents, 
but they do focus primarily on local events. If you want a regional FB 
group that includes some discussion of more general costuming issues, 
there is a huge number of them for different areas.  Just look up  your 
city, state, region, and you'll probably find such a group.


Fran
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On 8/30/2015 10:02 AM, Carol Kocian wrote:

It is, and they seem to fit the criteria of an all-era group. Unless they limit 
membership to the Greater Bay Area?

I think the person asking (on facebook) wanted to see if there was a group 
already established before starting her own. There are a lot with a specific 
era of focus.

-Carol



On Aug 30, 2015, at 10:35 AM, costumrs  wrote:

I believe that is the FB page for the Greater Bay Area Costumers Guild.
Sandy


Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone

 Original message From: Wicked Frau  Date:08/29/2015  
2:41 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: Historical Costume  Subject: Re: [h-cost] h-costume on 
facebook? 
That is the official facebook page for this list?  I never knew there was
one.

On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 12:35 PM, Cin  wrote:


Yes, https://www.facebook.com/groups/gbacg/ and each Guild event often has
it's own FB event announcement.

--cin
Cynthia Barnes

On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 11:13 AM, Carol Kocian 
wrote:


Does h-costume have a presence on facebook? Someone was just asking for

an

all-era sewing group, not just for patterns, not just for challenges,

but a

place to discuss and ask questions.

Thanks!
-Carol

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[h-cost] Fwd: h-costume on facebook?

2015-08-30 Thread Carol Kocian
Forwarding, thanks Susan!

> Begin forwarded message:
> 
> For some reason the list won't let me email it today.  Can you forward this 
> to the list for me?  Thanks, Susan
> 
> 
>  Forwarded Message 
> Subject: Re: [h-cost] h-costume on facebook?
> Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2015 12:26:14 -0400
> From: Susan B Farmer 
> To: h-costume@mail.indra.com
> 
> On 8/30/2015 9:38 AM, Genie wrote:
>> 
>> Many of the groups on FB are closed/invitation only, or you request to be 
>> added.
>> 
>> there are options if you don't want to set up an open group.
>> 
>> FB doesn't have to be a black hole.
>> 
> 
> I'm one of the Admin for this group
> 
> https://www.facebook.com/groups/PeriodCostuming/
> 
> It's probably the closest thing to this list that *I* know of that
> already exists.
> 
> If I can't tell you're a costumer, you need to send me a PM to let me
> know.  No direct sales are allowed, and no harvesting of the member list
> for PM spam messages -- either of those will get you removed and banned
> in a heartbeat.
> 
> Come on over!
> 
> Susan
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> College of Science and Math
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[h-cost] Moving

2015-08-30 Thread Lavolta Press
BTW, for the few who are left in h-costume, I just wanted to say my 
husband and I are cashing in our SF house, which we've owned for over 30 
years, to take advantage of the local real estate boom.  And we already 
bought our dream house in the Sacramento area!  We don't expect to move 
in till sometime in the fall. We're having the house painted in Arts & 
Crafts colors, oak flooring put into the few rooms that don't already 
have it, and remodeling the kitchen with custom "mission" cabinets. And 
some fixups here and there. There is a gorgeous garden (almost 2 acres), 
but we recently discovered the sprinkler system needs to be moved and 
part of the fence needs to be replaced . . . My sewing room is a huge 
master bedroom with a separate large room (formerly an indoor swimming 
pool, according to the neighbors), for use as a closet. There are two 
other bedrooms plus a guest suite, so we don't need to sleep in it, 
anyway for a bedroom it's absurdly large. So we are really excited.


We also need to buy more furniture, preferably antique, late 19th/early 
20th century.  Especially more bookcases.  So if anyone knows of any 
great antique stores in that area, email me!


Fran
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Re: [h-cost] Moving

2015-08-30 Thread WorkroomButtons.com
That really does sound like a dream house!  Hope the transition goes smoothly 
and that there are no more surprises (at least not costly ones). :-)
-Dede _
West Village Studio
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  From: Lavolta Press 
 To: Historical Costume  
 Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 2:05 PM
 Subject: [h-cost] Moving
   
BTW, for the few who are left in h-costume, I just wanted to say my 
husband and I are cashing in our SF house, which we've owned for over 30 
years, to take advantage of the local real estate boom.  And we already 
bought our dream house in the Sacramento area!  We don't expect to move 
in till sometime in the fall. We're having the house painted in Arts & 
Crafts colors, oak flooring put into the few rooms that don't already 
have it, and remodeling the kitchen with custom "mission" cabinets. And 
some fixups here and there. There is a gorgeous garden (almost 2 acres), 
but we recently discovered the sprinkler system needs to be moved and 
part of the fence needs to be replaced . . . My sewing room is a huge 
master bedroom with a separate large room (formerly an indoor swimming 
pool, according to the neighbors), for use as a closet. There are two 
other bedrooms plus a guest suite, so we don't need to sleep in it, 
anyway for a bedroom it's absurdly large. So we are really excited.

We also need to buy more furniture, preferably antique, late 19th/early 
20th century.  Especially more bookcases.  So if anyone knows of any 
great antique stores in that area, email me!

Fran
Lavolta Press
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Re: [h-cost] h-costume on facebook?

2015-08-30 Thread Brenda Bell



From: Carol Kocian 
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2015 14:13:50 -0400
Subject: [h-cost] h-costume on facebook?

Does h-costume have a presence on facebook? 
Someone was just asking for an all-era sewing 
group, not just for patterns, not just for 
challenges, but a place to discuss and ask questions.


Thanks!
-Carol


From: Patricia Dunham 
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2015 12:01:19 -0700
Subject: Re: [h-cost] h-costume on facebook?
Message: 2

I hope not, or if so, that it is an open site… I 
don't care to turn my life over to the world via 
Facebook and SO many research sites there are 
locked up where you can't see the info!


I'd encourage folk to join mailing lists like 
this one -- even though it's "older technology", 
there are no issues with Facebook's constantly 
changing privacy settings, harvesting user 
information, and so on. (I have not, and will 
not, join Facebook. That said, I *am* on 
LinkedIn, Google+, Twitter, Pinterest, and a 
number of Yahoo groups, which *also* do a bunch 
of privacy invasion/info harvesting).




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Re: [h-cost] Moving

2015-08-30 Thread Lavolta Press
The seller did a lot of work to prepare for the sale, including a new 
roof,  and we now have estimates for all the indoor work we want to do. 
So I don't think there will be any more expensive surprises.


The other surprises are kind of fun. The house is almost 5,000 square 
feet (plus garage) and was built in the 40s as a Colonial Revival style. 
I grew up in an area where there were plenty of real Colonial houses and 
see little resemblance, unless you count wide hallways, and wide 
doorways to all the public rooms. It could as easily be Mission, which 
is more the look we're aiming at.  Anyway, there have been a number of 
owners and each one has remodeled the property in some significant way.  
We're not even sure how much of the house is original and what was added 
on or when. We keep discovering things. The other day a painting 
contractor who came to give an estimate examined the drywall on the 
living room ceiling. He pointed out there were long patches indicating 
that the ceiling once had ornamental Mission style beams across it. I'd 
rather like to put beams in there now, but my husband refuses. There is 
a family room next to it with an entirely wooden ceiling, massive 
(probably) nonsupportive beams and all, so I suppose that will have to do.


We hadn't even really examined the grounds closely till recently. There 
are a number of benches and things we may have to do something about at 
some point.


Fran
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On 8/30/2015 12:02 PM, WorkroomButtons.com wrote:

That really does sound like a dream house!  Hope the transition goes smoothly 
and that there are no more surprises (at least not costly ones). :-)
-Dede _
West Village Studio
www.workroombuttons.com
   From: Lavolta Press 
  To: Historical Costume 
  Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 2:05 PM
  Subject: [h-cost] Moving

BTW, for the few who are left in h-costume, I just wanted to say my

husband and I are cashing in our SF house, which we've owned for over 30
years, to take advantage of the local real estate boom.  And we already
bought our dream house in the Sacramento area!  We don't expect to move
in till sometime in the fall. We're having the house painted in Arts &
Crafts colors, oak flooring put into the few rooms that don't already
have it, and remodeling the kitchen with custom "mission" cabinets. And
some fixups here and there. There is a gorgeous garden (almost 2 acres),
but we recently discovered the sprinkler system needs to be moved and
part of the fence needs to be replaced . . . My sewing room is a huge
master bedroom with a separate large room (formerly an indoor swimming
pool, according to the neighbors), for use as a closet. There are two
other bedrooms plus a guest suite, so we don't need to sleep in it,
anyway for a bedroom it's absurdly large. So we are really excited.

We also need to buy more furniture, preferably antique, late 19th/early
20th century.  Especially more bookcases.  So if anyone knows of any
great antique stores in that area, email me!

Fran
Lavolta Press
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Re: [h-cost] h-costume on facebook?

2015-08-30 Thread Lavolta Press
Really, Majordomo lists are superior except for not transferring images, 
which people discussing costuming often want to do.  I'd assume maybe 
they can, if the moderator sets it up?  People have more bandwidth now 
than they did 20+ years ago when I first joined.


Fran
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On 8/30/2015 12:13 PM, Brenda Bell wrote:



From: Carol Kocian 
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2015 14:13:50 -0400
Subject: [h-cost] h-costume on facebook?

Does h-costume have a presence on facebook? Someone was just asking 
for an all-era sewing group, not just for patterns, not just for 
challenges, but a place to discuss and ask questions.


Thanks!
-Carol


From: Patricia Dunham 
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2015 12:01:19 -0700
Subject: Re: [h-cost] h-costume on facebook?
Message: 2

I hope not, or if so, that it is an open site… I don't care to turn 
my life over to the world via Facebook and SO many research sites 
there are locked up where you can't see the info!


I'd encourage folk to join mailing lists like this one -- even though 
it's "older technology", there are no issues with Facebook's 
constantly changing privacy settings, harvesting user information, and 
so on. (I have not, and will not, join Facebook. That said, I *am* on 
LinkedIn, Google+, Twitter, Pinterest, and a number of Yahoo groups, 
which *also* do a bunch of privacy invasion/info harvesting).




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Re: [h-cost] Moving

2015-08-30 Thread Patricia Dunham
Sounds MARVELOUS! We've been following American Bungalow magazine and the other 
major Arts-n-Crafts-houses one (which I can never remember the name of!) for 
quite a while now. 

Since it's only the 40's, that's probably too recent for any Sacramento 
heritage-housing organization to be interested in??? Such a group MIGHT have 
info about the early days of your house. The Rehab Addict gal (HGTV) often 
finds wonderful pictures of early days of her houses that way. 

Hope you have some medium or bigger, drought-resistant trees to help with 
microclimates and passive cooling! We have several maples and hazelnut trees 
that help our (VERY) little 50s rancher a LOT that way.  Also, 2-acre garden, 
oy!

Best wishes!
chimene the envious, 8-)

On Aug 30, 2015, at 12:30 PM, Lavolta Press  wrote:

> The seller did a lot of work to prepare for the sale, including a new roof,  
> and we now have estimates for all the indoor work we want to do. So I don't 
> think there will be any more expensive surprises.
> 
> The other surprises are kind of fun. The house is almost 5,000 square feet 
> (plus garage) and was built in the 40s as a Colonial Revival style. I grew up 
> in an area where there were plenty of real Colonial houses and see little 
> resemblance, unless you count wide hallways, and wide doorways to all the 
> public rooms. It could as easily be Mission, which is more the look we're 
> aiming at.  Anyway, there have been a number of owners and each one has 
> remodeled the property in some significant way.  We're not even sure how much 
> of the house is original and what was added on or when. We keep discovering 
> things. The other day a painting contractor who came to give an estimate 
> examined the drywall on the living room ceiling. He pointed out there were 
> long patches indicating that the ceiling once had ornamental Mission style 
> beams across it. I'd rather like to put beams in there now, but my husband 
> refuses. There is a family room next to it with an entirely wooden ceiling, 
> massive (pro!
 bably) nonsupportive beams and all, so I suppose that will have to do.
> 
> We hadn't even really examined the grounds closely till recently. There are a 
> number of benches and things we may have to do something about at some point.
> 
> Fran
> Lavolta Press
> www.lavoltapress.com
> 
> On 8/30/2015 12:02 PM, WorkroomButtons.com wrote:
>> ...   BTW, for the few who are left in h-costume, I just wanted to say my
>> husband and I are cashing in our SF house, which we've owned for over 30
>> years, to take advantage of the local real estate boom.  And we already
>> bought our dream house in the Sacramento area!  We don't expect to move
>> in till sometime in the fall. We're having the house painted in Arts &
>> Crafts colors, oak flooring put into the few rooms that don't already
>> have it, and remodeling the kitchen with custom "mission" cabinets. And
>> some fixups here and there. There is a gorgeous garden (almost 2 acres),
>> but we recently discovered the sprinkler system needs to be moved and
>> part of the fence needs to be replaced . . . My sewing room is a huge
>> master bedroom with a separate large room (formerly an indoor swimming
>> pool, according to the neighbors), for use as a closet. There are two
>> other bedrooms plus a guest suite, so we don't need to sleep in it,
>> anyway for a bedroom it's absurdly large. So we are really excited.
>> 
>> We also need to buy more furniture, preferably antique, late 19th/early
>> 20th century.  Especially more bookcases.  So if anyone knows of any
>> great antique stores in that area, email me!
>> 

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Re: [h-cost] Moving

2015-08-30 Thread Lavolta Press
We're not going to take care of the garden ourselves. The previous owner 
had a team of two gardeners who come once a week and we kept them on.  
Yes, there are many large, mature trees. Also an incredibly prolific 
Meyer lemon tree.  A lot of rose bushes but all white.  It's more like a 
landscaped park than a flower garden. It even has an outdoor lighting 
system for night use.


The previous owner didn't obey any water restrictions and the Sacramento 
water department asked us to cut down, so we cut down 50%. Things are a 
little droopy now, but would be better if the arrangement of the 
sprinkler system were more effective. We're going to get some 
landscaping people to look at the garden once we move in, move the 
sprinklers or install a drip system, prune some trees, and maybe we'll 
change gardeners. But that's not our first priority.  I want to plant a 
mandarin orange tree, which should flourish considering how well the 
lemon tree is doing.


I will look into the Sacramento heritage housing for information. 1940s 
is old for northern California, after all. Thanks for the suggestion. 
Currently what information we have on remodels is from long-time neighbors.


Fran
Lavolta Press
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On 8/30/2015 2:16 PM, Patricia Dunham wrote:

Sounds MARVELOUS! We've been following American Bungalow magazine and the other 
major Arts-n-Crafts-houses one (which I can never remember the name of!) for 
quite a while now.

Since it's only the 40's, that's probably too recent for any Sacramento 
heritage-housing organization to be interested in??? Such a group MIGHT have 
info about the early days of your house. The Rehab Addict gal (HGTV) often 
finds wonderful pictures of early days of her houses that way.

Hope you have some medium or bigger, drought-resistant trees to help with 
microclimates and passive cooling! We have several maples and hazelnut trees 
that help our (VERY) little 50s rancher a LOT that way.  Also, 2-acre garden, 
oy!

Best wishes!
chimene the envious, 8-)

On Aug 30, 2015, at 12:30 PM, Lavolta Press  wrote:


The seller did a lot of work to prepare for the sale, including a new roof,  
and we now have estimates for all the indoor work we want to do. So I don't 
think there will be any more expensive surprises.

The other surprises are kind of fun. The house is almost 5,000 square feet 
(plus garage) and was built in the 40s as a Colonial Revival style. I grew up 
in an area where there were plenty of real Colonial houses and see little 
resemblance, unless you count wide hallways, and wide doorways to all the 
public rooms. It could as easily be Mission, which is more the look we're 
aiming at.  Anyway, there have been a number of owners and each one has 
remodeled the property in some significant way.  We're not even sure how much 
of the house is original and what was added on or when. We keep discovering 
things. The other day a painting contractor who came to give an estimate 
examined the drywall on the living room ceiling. He pointed out there were long 
patches indicating that the ceiling once had ornamental Mission style beams 
across it. I'd rather like to put beams in there now, but my husband refuses. 
There is a family room next to it with an entirely wooden ceiling, massive (pr!

o!

  bably) nonsupportive beams and all, so I suppose that will have to do.

We hadn't even really examined the grounds closely till recently. There are a 
number of benches and things we may have to do something about at some point.

Fran
Lavolta Press
www.lavoltapress.com

On 8/30/2015 12:02 PM, WorkroomButtons.com wrote:

...   BTW, for the few who are left in h-costume, I just wanted to say my
husband and I are cashing in our SF house, which we've owned for over 30
years, to take advantage of the local real estate boom.  And we already
bought our dream house in the Sacramento area!  We don't expect to move
in till sometime in the fall. We're having the house painted in Arts &
Crafts colors, oak flooring put into the few rooms that don't already
have it, and remodeling the kitchen with custom "mission" cabinets. And
some fixups here and there. There is a gorgeous garden (almost 2 acres),
but we recently discovered the sprinkler system needs to be moved and
part of the fence needs to be replaced . . . My sewing room is a huge
master bedroom with a separate large room (formerly an indoor swimming
pool, according to the neighbors), for use as a closet. There are two
other bedrooms plus a guest suite, so we don't need to sleep in it,
anyway for a bedroom it's absurdly large. So we are really excited.

We also need to buy more furniture, preferably antique, late 19th/early
20th century.  Especially more bookcases.  So if anyone knows of any
great antique stores in that area, email me!


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