Re: [h-cost] Dune
In a message dated 2/12/2006 9:12:53 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > The made for TV series > (William Hurt) made a lot more sense. > * Many people say this, but I don't find the Lynch film confusing at all. [I didn't even find "Mullholand Drive" confusing.] But it is a complicated multilayered story. The trouble with modern [American mainly] films is everything is wrapped up pat at the end. Everything explained to the nth degree. People expect this now even in their own real lives! I don't mind a little mystery. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Dune costumes
In a message dated 2/12/2006 4:38:53 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > No, sorry, it's definitely 'stillsuit' Yes...Still...as in Distill... ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Dune
At 12:54 12/02/2006, you wrote: - Original Message - From: "Kimiko Small" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Historical Costume" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 3:40 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Dune While I really enjoyed both sets of movies (SciFi version, and the original movie with extended info), the books are so much better imho. If you haven't read them, do, at least the first three books. I've read most of that series, and the first three are much better, with the story going whacky imho after that. I have tried and tried to read the Dune books. But I just can't get into them, for some reason! I've never gotten even to halfway in the first book. Me neither, but my husband devours them. The made for TV series (William Hurt) made a lot more sense. Suzi ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Dune
- Original Message - From: "Kimiko Small" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Historical Costume" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 3:40 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Dune While I really enjoyed both sets of movies (SciFi version, and the original movie with extended info), the books are so much better imho. If you haven't read them, do, at least the first three books. I've read most of that series, and the first three are much better, with the story going whacky imho after that. I have tried and tried to read the Dune books. But I just can't get into them, for some reason! I've never gotten even to halfway in the first book. Dianne ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Dune costumes
Becky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Called stealth suits - Original Message - From: "Kimiko Small" To: "Historical Costume" Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 1:27 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Dune costumes > At 07:58 AM 2/11/2006, you wrote: >>I particularly liked the moisture-trapping suits. The name for them >>escapes me. > > > Still suits, iirc. It's been awhile. COMMENT Well, I have the original issues of "Analog", [the large-format Sci-Fi Mag which had been the A-5-sized "Astounding"] - in which the very first stories of Dune were published, AFAIK, - and the moisture trapping suits are surely called "still suits" in Herbert's text as published therein. Just my two drachm's-worth by water-counters. Julian, still on the side of House Atreides, but running a little low on melange. - Yahoo! Photos NEW, now offering a quality print service from just 8p a photo. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Dune costumes
No, sorry, it's definitely 'stillsuit' - I just checked in 'Children of Dune', that being the book that was closest to hand. Joannah ~*~ Practice random acts of kindness, and senseless acts of beauty. ~*~ --- "Becky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Called stealth suits - Original Message - From: "Kimiko Small" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > At 07:58 AM 2/11/2006, you wrote: >>I particularly liked the moisture-trapping suits. The name for them >>escapes me. > > > Still suits, iirc. It's been awhile. > > Kimiko > _ Sluggy.Net: The Sluggy Freelance Community! ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Dune costumes
Called stealth suits - Original Message - From: "Kimiko Small" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Historical Costume" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 1:27 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Dune costumes At 07:58 AM 2/11/2006, you wrote: I particularly liked the moisture-trapping suits. The name for them escapes me. Still suits, iirc. It's been awhile. Kimiko ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Dune costumes
At 07:58 AM 2/11/2006, you wrote: I particularly liked the moisture-trapping suits. The name for them escapes me. Still suits, iirc. It's been awhile. Kimiko ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Dune costumes
Cheryl wrote: I particularly liked the moisture-trapping suits. The name for them escapes me. Still-suits. -Helen/Aidan ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Dune costumes
While I really enjoyed both sets of movies (SciFi version, and the > original > movie with extended info), the books are so much better imho One should never go to a movie based on a book and expect it to be in any way true to the book's story. Different medium. Then one is less often disappointed. I loved the Dune books. I also loved the David Lynch "Dune" movie. If any of you are fans of particular film directors, as I am of David Lynch, you go to that movie to see what that director has done with the story, not to see a reenactment scene-by-scene of the book. At least, that is my opinion. If you're looking for the same story as the book, you are bound to be disappointed most of the time. Where was Tom Bombadil, after all, in Lord of the Rings? That said, the process of designing costumes for a science fiction film or fantasy is that the world you are creating never really existed. So you get to create the world, along with the rest of the design team. So much fun! And the choices in "Dune" the movie (the 80's one with Sting) are very interesting. I particularly liked the moisture-trapping suits. The name for them escapes me. And, of course, the Court. And the creepy Baron. (shudder) and how all of these choices related to the characters. Cheryl Odom ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Dune
Agreed. Costumes great. Movies bite. Books rock. Bice On 2/9/06, Kimiko Small <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > At 02:40 PM 2/8/2006, you wrote: > >I got the newly issued DVD of "Dune"another film much hated but I > love > >because I don't find it confusing [and I've never read the books] > > > While I really enjoyed both sets of movies (SciFi version, and the > original > movie with extended info), the books are so much better imho. If you > haven't read them, do, at least the first three books. I've read most of > that series, and the first three are much better, with the story going > whacky imho after that. > > But I will also admit to enjoying the SciFi movie costumes very much, even > if the storylines are a bit changed. It's been a long while since I saw > the > original movie (when it came out in the theatre, and again when the > extended aired on tv although I vaguely watched it because I was working), > so I won't comment there. > > Kimiko > > > ___ > h-costume mailing list > h-costume@mail.indra.com > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Dune
At 02:40 PM 2/8/2006, you wrote: I got the newly issued DVD of "Dune"another film much hated but I love because I don't find it confusing [and I've never read the books] While I really enjoyed both sets of movies (SciFi version, and the original movie with extended info), the books are so much better imho. If you haven't read them, do, at least the first three books. I've read most of that series, and the first three are much better, with the story going whacky imho after that. But I will also admit to enjoying the SciFi movie costumes very much, even if the storylines are a bit changed. It's been a long while since I saw the original movie (when it came out in the theatre, and again when the extended aired on tv although I vaguely watched it because I was working), so I won't comment there. Kimiko ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Dune
I have been indulging guilty pleasures. I got the newly issued DVD of "Dune"another film much hated but I love because I don't find it confusing [and I've never read the books] and again beautifully and perfectly designed by Bob Ringwood. Each planet has a look that has one foot firmly planted in an historical period. The Emperor's court looks like a space age Spanish Renaissance court. The doomed House Atrates bears more than a passing resemblance to Nicolas and Alexandria. The nasty House Harkonan is all plastic and protective wear but the Baron's reevers and collar on his vinyl coat look like a cross between Napoleon and Mad King George. [The "extended version" sux and is kinda like "Dune for Dummies"...with everything explained to you by a narrator who sounds like a cigar smoking trucker [instead of the Emperor's daughter like in the original version. All so unnecessary. I liked that some things were left hangingor just implied] Anyway...with its story of the oppression of a desert people because their planet is the only place to find the most valuable substance in the universe, and their holy war to gain their independence from cruel occupiers, it all had very creepy overtones it didn't have when it came out. And "Arakis"...the name of the planet, is way too close to "Iraq". Yikes! ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume