Re: [h-cost] Dune

2006-02-12 Thread AlbertCat
In a message dated 2/12/2006 9:12:53 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> The made for TV  series 
> (William Hurt) made a lot more sense.
> 

*

Many people say this, but I don't find the Lynch film confusing at all. [I 
didn't even find "Mullholand Drive" confusing.] But it is a complicated 
multilayered story.

The trouble with modern [American mainly] films is everything is wrapped up 
pat at the end. Everything explained to the nth degree. People expect this 
now even in their own real lives! I don't mind a little mystery.
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Re: [h-cost] Dune costumes

2006-02-12 Thread AlbertCat
In a message dated 2/12/2006 4:38:53 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> No, sorry, it's definitely 'stillsuit' 

Yes...Still...as in Distill...
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Re: [h-cost] Dune

2006-02-12 Thread Suzi Clarke

At 12:54 12/02/2006, you wrote:



- Original Message - From: "Kimiko Small" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Historical Costume" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 3:40 PM
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Dune




While I really enjoyed both sets of movies (SciFi version, and the 
original movie with extended info), the books are so much better 
imho. If you haven't read them, do, at least the first three books. 
I've read most of that series, and the first three are much better, 
with the story going whacky imho after that.


I have tried and tried to read the Dune books. But I just can't get 
into them, for some reason! I've never gotten even to halfway in the 
first book.



Me neither, but my husband devours them. The made for TV  series 
(William Hurt) made a lot more sense.


Suzi


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Re: [h-cost] Dune

2006-02-12 Thread Dianne & Greg Stucki



- Original Message - 
From: "Kimiko Small" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Historical Costume" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 3:40 PM
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Dune




While I really enjoyed both sets of movies (SciFi version, and the 
original movie with extended info), the books are so much better imho. If 
you haven't read them, do, at least the first three books. I've read most 
of that series, and the first three are much better, with the story going 
whacky imho after that.


I have tried and tried to read the Dune books. But I just can't get into 
them, for some reason! I've never gotten even to halfway in the first book.


Dianne

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Re: [h-cost] Dune costumes

2006-02-12 Thread julian wilson
Becky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
  Called stealth suits
- Original Message - 
From: "Kimiko Small" 
To: "Historical Costume" 
Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 1:27 PM
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Dune costumes


> At 07:58 AM 2/11/2006, you wrote:
>>I particularly liked the moisture-trapping suits. The name for them
>>escapes me.
> 
> 
> Still suits, iirc. It's been awhile.
   
  COMMENT
  Well, I have the original issues of "Analog", [the large-format Sci-Fi Mag 
which had been the A-5-sized "Astounding"]  - in which the very first stories 
of Dune were published, AFAIK, - and the moisture trapping suits are surely 
called "still suits" in Herbert's text as published therein.
   
  Just my two drachm's-worth by water-counters.
   
  Julian, 
  still on the side of House  Atreides, but running a little low on melange.


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Re: [h-cost] Dune costumes

2006-02-12 Thread Joannah Hansen
No, sorry, it's definitely 'stillsuit' - I just checked in 'Children of Dune', 
that being the book that was closest to hand.

Joannah

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--- "Becky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Called stealth suits

- Original Message -
 
From: "Kimiko Small" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> At 07:58 AM 2/11/2006, you wrote:
>>I particularly liked the moisture-trapping suits.   The name for them
>>escapes me.
> 
> 
> Still suits, iirc. It's been awhile.
> 
> Kimiko
> 


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Re: [h-cost] Dune costumes

2006-02-11 Thread Becky

Called stealth suits
- Original Message - 
From: "Kimiko Small" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Historical Costume" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 1:27 PM
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Dune costumes



At 07:58 AM 2/11/2006, you wrote:

I particularly liked the moisture-trapping suits.   The name for them
escapes me.



Still suits, iirc. It's been awhile.

Kimiko


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Re: [h-cost] Dune costumes

2006-02-11 Thread Kimiko Small

At 07:58 AM 2/11/2006, you wrote:

I particularly liked the moisture-trapping suits.   The name for them
escapes me.



Still suits, iirc. It's been awhile.

Kimiko


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Re: [h-cost] Dune costumes

2006-02-11 Thread Helen Pinto

Cheryl wrote:
I particularly liked the moisture-trapping suits.   The name for them 
escapes me.  


Still-suits.

  -Helen/Aidan
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[h-cost] Dune costumes

2006-02-11 Thread Cheryldee
While I really enjoyed both sets of movies (SciFi version, and the
>  original
> movie with extended info), the books are so much better  imho
 
One should never go to a movie based on a book and expect it to be in any  
way true to the book's story.  Different medium.  Then one is less  often 
disappointed.  I loved the Dune books.  I also loved the David  Lynch "Dune" 
movie.  
If any of you are fans of particular film directors,  as I am of David Lynch, 
you go to that movie to see what that director has done  with the story, not 
to see a reenactment scene-by-scene of the book.  At  least, that is my 
opinion.  If you're looking for the same story as the  book, you are bound to 
be 
disappointed most of the time.  Where was Tom  Bombadil, after all, in Lord of 
the Rings?
 
That said, the process of designing costumes for a science fiction film or  
fantasy is that the world you are creating never really existed.  So you  get 
to create the world, along with the rest of the design team. So much  fun!  And 
the choices in "Dune" the movie (the 80's one with Sting) are  very 
interesting.  I particularly liked the moisture-trapping suits.   The name for 
them 
escapes me.  And, of course, the Court.  And the  creepy Baron. (shudder) and 
how 
all of these choices related to the  characters.
 
Cheryl Odom
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Re: [h-cost] Dune

2006-02-11 Thread Jacqueline Johnson
Agreed. Costumes great. Movies bite. Books rock.

Bice


On 2/9/06, Kimiko Small <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> At 02:40 PM 2/8/2006, you wrote:
> >I got the newly issued DVD of "Dune"another film much hated but I
> love
> >because I don't find it confusing [and I've never read the books]
>
>
> While I really enjoyed both sets of movies (SciFi version, and the
> original
> movie with extended info), the books are so much better imho. If you
> haven't read them, do, at least the first three books. I've read most of
> that series, and the first three are much better, with the story going
> whacky imho after that.
>
> But I will also admit to enjoying the SciFi movie costumes very much, even
> if the storylines are a bit changed. It's been a long while since I saw
> the
> original movie (when it came out in the theatre, and again when the
> extended aired on tv although I vaguely watched it because I was working),
> so I won't comment there.
>
> Kimiko
>
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Re: [h-cost] Dune

2006-02-10 Thread Kimiko Small

At 02:40 PM 2/8/2006, you wrote:

I got the newly issued DVD of "Dune"another film much hated but I love
because I don't find it confusing [and I've never read the books]



While I really enjoyed both sets of movies (SciFi version, and the original 
movie with extended info), the books are so much better imho. If you 
haven't read them, do, at least the first three books. I've read most of 
that series, and the first three are much better, with the story going 
whacky imho after that.


But I will also admit to enjoying the SciFi movie costumes very much, even 
if the storylines are a bit changed. It's been a long while since I saw the 
original movie (when it came out in the theatre, and again when the 
extended aired on tv although I vaguely watched it because I was working), 
so I won't comment there.


Kimiko


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[h-cost] Dune

2006-02-08 Thread AlbertCat
 


I  have been indulging guilty pleasures. 
 
 
 
I got the newly issued DVD of "Dune"another film much hated but I love  
because I don't find it confusing [and I've never read the books] and again  
beautifully and perfectly designed by Bob Ringwood. Each planet has a look that 
 
has one foot firmly planted in an historical period. The Emperor's court 
looks  like a space age Spanish Renaissance court. The doomed House Atrates 
bears 
more  than a passing resemblance to Nicolas and Alexandria. The nasty House  
Harkonan is all plastic and protective wear but the Baron's reevers and collar  
on his vinyl coat look like a cross between Napoleon and Mad King George.
 
 [The "extended version" sux and is kinda like "Dune for  Dummies"...with 
everything explained to you by a narrator who sounds like a  cigar smoking 
trucker [instead of the Emperor's daughter like in the original  version. All 
so 
unnecessary. I liked that some things were left hangingor  just implied]
 
 
Anyway...with its story of the oppression of a desert people because their  
planet is the only place to find the most valuable substance in the universe,  
and their holy war to gain their independence from cruel occupiers, it all had 
 very creepy overtones it didn't have when it came out. And "Arakis"...the 
name  of the planet, is way too close to "Iraq". Yikes!
 

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