Re: [h-cost] RE:hippie pants-suit vs. Corduroy pants-suit
My mom, who went to a fair number of professional conferences, thought pants suits were the greatest thing since permanent press, and wore them with enthusiasm. She told me that at one conference (sometime in the late 70s I think), a couple of nice ladies took her aside and told her that really, you know, it wasn't the Done Thing to _always_ wear pants suits. After all, people might think she was a gasp! Lesbian. Being happily married since 1943 and the mother of four, my mom thought this was hysterically funny! OChris Laning [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Davis, California + http://paternoster-row.org - http://paternosters.blogspot.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] RE:hippie pants-suit vs. Corduroy pants-suit
On Sunday 01 April 2007 5:38 pm, Chris Laning wrote: My mom, who went to a fair number of professional conferences, thought pants suits were the greatest thing since permanent press, and wore them with enthusiasm. She told me that at one conference (sometime in the late 70s I think), a couple of nice ladies took her aside and told her that really, you know, it wasn't the Done Thing to _always_ wear pants suits. After all, people might think she was a gasp! Lesbian. [snip] Sigh. I believe it. There still was a fair amount of prejudice against women in pants. However, by the late 1970s, really *old* women started wearing pants and pants suits routinely in significant numbers, doubtless for the same reason as your mom (comfort, right?). I remember this because I thought it unusually progressive of them, until I considered the comfort factor. -- Cathy Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] You've got to have the proper amount of disrespect for what you do. -- George Mabry ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] RE:hippie pants-suit vs. Corduroy pants-suit
As someone who grew up in that era, I can say the 'pant suit' wasn't really acceptable until the late 60s. I remember even in the very early 70s, in fact, I think it was 1970, girls fighting for the right to wear pants to high school. We did a 'sit in' protest. Ended up winning favour. But we weren't allowed to wear jeans. Well, we fixed that the following year. Cause we had another peaceful demonstration and won the right to wear jeans, and by then the jeans were huge bell bottoms, not what is called a bell bottom today. Nu-unh. They were tight to the knee and then flared out hugely so that when you walked there was a real ding-dong effect. And then they became hip-huggers. Oh so risque! We got in all kinds of trouble. And then the braless thing happened, and my step-father fetched a fit! So did the teachers. By 1971 or 1972 (grade 10 for me) the pant suit was being worn by those of us who considered ourselves very fashionable. I had several. One which my mother made in a gorgeous canary yellow crepe polyester with wide white collar, sort of a tunic dress, quite short, and bell bottom pants. The other was a dishy number purchased at a very fashionable women's clothing retailer, in royal blue with a tiny white dot, very fitted bodice with a wide placket front, tiny loop buttons, v neck, puffy sleeves, enormous bells cut on the circle and very tight at the knee. The tunic was about mid-calf, slit to the waist, almost like a frock coat. I had blue suede espadrilles and I thought I was the cat's youknow. Lol! Regards, Lorina Five Rivers Chapmanry purveyors of quality hand-crafted cooperage, embroidery supplies; fine, original textile, pen and ink, and watercolour art. Now available: Recipes of a Dumb Housewife, by Lorina Stephens 519-799-5577 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - www.5rivers.org -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.22/739 - Release Date: 3/29/2007 1:36 PM ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] RE:hippie pants-suit vs. Corduroy pants-suit
At 06:42 PM 3/30/2007, you wrote: By 1971 or 1972 (grade 10 for me) the pant suit was being worn by those of us who considered ourselves very fashionable. I had several. One which my mother made in a gorgeous canary yellow crepe polyester with wide white collar, sort of a tunic dress, quite short, and bell bottom pants. My mother made my sister and myself matching pant suits, of a similar style. Ours were powder blue polyester, with a lace jabot at the neck. They were beautifully made, but polyester...blech! Dianne ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] RE:hippie pants-suit vs. Corduroy pants-suit
Greetings-- Dianne Greg Stucki wrote: At 06:42 PM 3/30/2007, you wrote: By 1971 or 1972 (grade 10 for me) the pant suit was being worn by those of us who considered ourselves very fashionable. I had several. One which my mother made in a gorgeous canary yellow crepe polyester with wide white collar, sort of a tunic dress, quite short, and bell bottom pants. My mother made my sister and myself matching pant suits, of a similar style. Ours were powder blue polyester, with a lace jabot at the neck. They were beautifully made, but polyester...blech! I'm a few years behind the early 70s high school crowd (I was in preschool), but I do remember one of my biggest childhood disappointments. Mom did a lot of sewing and made me quite a number of pantsuits. She found this fabric with Siamese cats all over it, and she was going to make us matching outfits, with the tunic-style top with the cat fabric and matching brown pants. But she messed up the cut on mine--half the cats were upside down, so it never got made. I was very bummed. Susan ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] RE:hippie pants-suit vs. Corduroy pants-suit
On Friday 30 March 2007 6:42 pm, Five Rivers Chapmanry wrote: As someone who grew up in that era, I can say the 'pant suit' wasn't really acceptable until the late 60s. I remember even in the very early 70s, in fact, I think it was 1970, girls fighting for the right to wear pants to high school. We did a 'sit in' protest. Ended up winning favour. But we weren't allowed to wear jeans. In the business world pant suits weren't acceptable for women until the early 90's--when they stopped cutting the pants as though they were jeans. :-) Well, we fixed that the following year. Cause we had another peaceful demonstration and won the right to wear jeans, and by then the jeans were huge bell bottoms, not what is called a bell bottom today. Actually, what you're thinking of is now called boot cut, but yes, it is much narrower than the bell bottoms of yesteryear. -- Cathy Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] If only God would give me some clear sign! Like making a large deposit in my name at a Swiss Bank. -- Woody Allen ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
