[h-cost] What would my ancestor have worn?
Hello, everyone. A cousin of mine is tracing the family tree and hit the jackpot. I'm a direct descendant of the builders of this manor: http://www.padley.catholicweb.com/ My ancestor is Joan Padley, and she lived in the 14th century. I'd love to know how Joan would have been dressed, but I'm not quite certain how she places on the socioeconomic scale of the times. Here's some of the information from the website: "The manor house at Upper Padley was built in the late 13th and early 14th centuries. It is situated on the north bank of the River Derwent, within a mile of Grindleford Bridge. The original owners came from Normandy with William the Conqueror. Their family name was De Bernac. They were given the lands of Padley, Grindleford and Hathersage by William for services rendered. They settled in Upper Padley, where their descendants started to build. They eventually changed their name to Padley. When the sole heiress, Joan Padley married Robert Eyre of Highlow, there was already a fair sized manor house. Robert & Joan extended the buildings including the gatehouse." I would be grateful for any help. Thanks! Michelle ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] What would my ancestor have worn?
Hi there - I don't have any specific information, but I am also looking. My ancestors, Venoix of Caens, also came over with William the C (Advisors), were given lands near Hastings and took on the name "Veness". If you here anything, let me know? > Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 16:37:02 -0400 > From: mpl...@wideopenwest.com > To: h-costume@mail.indra.com > Subject: [h-cost] What would my ancestor have worn? > > > > Hello, everyone. A cousin of mine is tracing the family tree and hit > the jackpot. I'm a direct descendant of the builders of this manor: > http://www.padley.catholicweb.com/ > > My ancestor is Joan Padley, and she lived in the 14th century. I'd love > to know how Joan would have been dressed, but I'm not quite certain > how she places on the socioeconomic scale of the times. > > Here's some of the information from the website: > "The manor house at Upper Padley was built in the late 13th and early > 14th centuries. It is situated on the north bank of the River Derwent, > within a mile of Grindleford Bridge. The original owners came from > Normandy with William the Conqueror. Their family name was De Bernac. > They were given the lands of Padley, Grindleford and Hathersage by > William for services rendered. They settled in Upper Padley, where > their descendants started to build. They eventually changed their name > to Padley. When the sole heiress, Joan Padley married Robert Eyre of > Highlow, there was already a fair sized manor house. Robert & Joan > extended the buildings including the gatehouse." > > I would be grateful for any help. Thanks! Michelle > > ___ > h-costume mailing list > h-costume@mail.indra.com > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] What would my ancestor have worn?
Hi, I'm a "me, too" here as there is a family genealogy that I've never seen. The story is that the ancestor came in 1064 or 1065 as part of W of N's entourage and stayed. Also that the current family name 'Chase' is an Anglecised(sp?)version of the original. The College of Heralds has the original name but want money to part with it. It is said in family that he became a baron or was a baron. I'd like to know what he, his spouse and children would have worn. Most of my cousins that have seen the genealogy call it " that old thing." But I think it would be fun to know. Audy in the high boonies of Central Texas PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] What would my ancestor have worn?
Yay, one of my fields of research!! That's a pretty substantial manor house, especially with the size of the gatehouse (what is now the chapel). A quick bit of searching tells me that Derbyshire was doing pretty well economically in the 14th century, so your ancestress would have worn some pretty spiffy outfits. You'd be looking at the high-end wools and linens, the expensive colors, probably a lot of silver-gilt ornaments (silver-gilt is mostly what you find for the "not as rich as the Duke of Savoy" types in the 14th century) and probably some silver as well. Some pearls and gemstones, furs (lots of vair and miniver, some sable), patterned fabrics, velvets, etc. Look up "Fashion in the Age of the Black Prince" by Stella Mary Newton--that will give you a pretty good idea of what Joan was likely to have worn. Joan probably had a pretty nice yearly income, at least several hundred pounds, so think "quite well-off landowner". /Jen On Sun, 22 Aug 2010, Michelle Plumb wrote: Hello, everyone. A cousin of mine is tracing the family tree and hit the jackpot. I'm a direct descendant of the builders of this manor: http://www.padley.catholicweb.com/ My ancestor is Joan Padley, and she lived in the 14th century. I'd love to know how Joan would have been dressed, but I'm not quite certain how she places on the socioeconomic scale of the times. Here's some of the information from the website: "The manor house at Upper Padley was built in the late 13th and early 14th centuries. It is situated on the north bank of the River Derwent, within a mile of Grindleford Bridge. The original owners came from Normandy with William the Conqueror. Their family name was De Bernac. They were given the lands of Padley, Grindleford and Hathersage by William for services rendered. They settled in Upper Padley, where their descendants started to build. They eventually changed their name to Padley. When the sole heiress, Joan Padley married Robert Eyre of Highlow, there was already a fair sized manor house. Robert & Joan extended the buildings including the gatehouse." I would be grateful for any help. Thanks! Michelle ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] What would my ancestor have worn?
Oh, boy, thank you so much, Jen! That means I can dive into the good stuff! I was hoping that was the case. And just my luck, I have a copy of "Fashion in the Age of the Black Prince". Thanks again, so very much! Michelle, wondering what happened to the family fortune, LOL ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] What would my ancestor have worn?
> Michelle, wondering what happened to the family fortune, LOL My grandfather actually researched that question for his side of my family, and the answer wound up being pretty interesting! Answers, rather, because the disappearing family fortune didn't happen just once. =} -E House ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
