[h-cost] maker's labels in clothing

2008-02-26 Thread Beth Chamberlain
Has anyone researched when dressmakers/tailors first starting putting labels
in their goods? In particular I'm interested in the mid 19th century. I know
House of Worth was marking their goods by the 1890's but I'm hoping for
something earlier.

 

Beth Chamberlain

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RE: [h-cost] maker's labels in clothing

2008-02-26 Thread otsisto
1880s in Paris
Worth, Pingat, and Laferriere was labeling then

-Original Message-
Has anyone researched when dressmakers/tailors first starting putting labels
in their goods? In particular I'm interested in the mid 19th century. I know
House of Worth was marking their goods by the 1890's but I'm hoping for
something earlier.



Beth Chamberlain

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Re: [h-cost] maker's labels in clothing

2008-02-26 Thread Suzi Clarke

At 01:28 27/02/2008, you wrote:

Has anyone researched when dressmakers/tailors first starting putting labels
in their goods? In particular I'm interested in the mid 19th century. I know
House of Worth was marking their goods by the 1890's but I'm hoping for
something earlier.



I have a Worth bodice of around 1860 (ish) which has a label in it, 
if that is any help? I will be doing a "show and tell" with it 
shortly if you want me to scan it and send it off list?


Suzi

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Re: [h-cost] maker's labels in clothing

2008-02-27 Thread Katy Bishop
I have a Pingat evening bodice, 1860s, with a waist tape label.

Katy

On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 2:48 AM, Suzi Clarke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> At 01:28 27/02/2008, you wrote:
>  >Has anyone researched when dressmakers/tailors first starting putting labels
>  >in their goods? In particular I'm interested in the mid 19th century. I know
>  >House of Worth was marking their goods by the 1890's but I'm hoping for
>  >something earlier.
>
>
>  I have a Worth bodice of around 1860 (ish) which has a label in it,
>  if that is any help? I will be doing a "show and tell" with it
>  shortly if you want me to scan it and send it off list?
>
>  Suzi
>
>
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Re: [h-cost] maker's labels in clothing

2008-02-27 Thread Joan Jurancich

At 05:28 PM 2/26/2008, you wrote:

Has anyone researched when dressmakers/tailors first starting putting labels
in their goods? In particular I'm interested in the mid 19th century. I know
House of Worth was marking their goods by the 1890's but I'm hoping for
something earlier.



Beth Chamberlain


I have the book "Fabric of Society: A Century of People and their 
Clothes 1770-1870" by Jane Tozer & Sarah Levitt.  On pages 111-112 
there are pictures of labels in shoes and hats from the late 18th 
century.  On page 116 there is an illustration of a label in a man's 
stock, c. 1840.


Joan Jurancich
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Re: [h-cost] maker's labels in clothing

2008-02-28 Thread Hilary Davidson
The earliest one I know of, remarkable for its rarity, is a man's  
tartan worsted cloak c 1828-1830 with a label stating it's made by  
John Eyre of New Bond Street, London.


Otherwise, Suzi is on the right track, they appear more and more from  
the 1860s. I don't know if you can count the imprints of manufacturers  
such as Thomsons on their crinolines as dressmakers/tailors. There are  
labels in hats from the 1830s at least, shoes even earlier. By the  
1880s it's quite common in produced clothing. I could put you in touch  
with someone who's researching this for a thesis if it would be helpful.


cheers, Hilary

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Has anyone researched when dressmakers/tailors first starting putting labels
in their goods? In particular I'm interested in the mid 19th century. I know
House of Worth was marking their goods by the 1890's but I'm hoping for
something earlier.



Beth Chamberlain


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Re: [h-cost] maker's labels in clothing

2008-02-28 Thread stilskin
> Has anyone researched when dressmakers/tailors first starting putting labels
> in their goods?

TO BE PICKY, it goes way, way back to the idea of tradesmen or craftsmen 
leaving thier mark in or on thier work (remember the joke about the Nike flash 
on the armour in A Knight's Tale?).

It initially involved a notch, a hammered mark (in leather, for instance), a 
particular shaped stitch or letter stitched in to clothing to define the maker.

I have no hard evidence as to when these vanity marks became more formal such 
as manufacturers' tags but vaguely recall reading early-to-mid-19th century as 
when it came about, in line with factory production, mail order catalogues, and 
so on.

I hope this helps, if not, you can print it to line your cocky's cage,

-C.



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Re: [h-cost] maker's labels in clothing - resending

2008-02-28 Thread Hilary Davidson

Sorry all, the top bit of the post fell off. It was meant to read:

The earliest, rare example I know of is a man's worsted tartan cape  
dated 1828-30, with a label proclaiming it to be made by John Eyre of  
New Bond Street, London. Otherwise, Suzi is on the right track, they  
appear more and more from

the 1860s. I don't know if you can count the imprints of manufacturers
such as Thomsons on their crinolines as dressmakers/tailors. There are
labels in hats from the 1830s at least, shoes even earlier. By the
1880s it's quite common in produced clothing. I could put you in touch
with someone who's researching this for a thesis if it would be helpful.

cheers, Hilary


Has anyone researched when dressmakers/tailors first starting putting  
labels
in their goods? In particular I'm interested in the mid 19th century.  
I know

House of Worth was marking their goods by the 1890's but I'm hoping for
something earlier.



Beth Chamberlain


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