RE: [h-cost] help for removing creases in silk?
yeah,if you dampen the fabric make sure you squeeze almost all the moisture out, copious amounts of water in the fabric won't help the solution to work.At "ye Olde beauty College" we just let it "convert" in the air, perm solution has a "shelf life "of only so many hrs, then the chemicals break down and stop processing . So I'd say let it go, then rinse if you wish... the "crinkles"won't come back, if washed. you don't need the super fancy perm solution, you can buy it by the gallon (we did) for a few bucks, or just get the cheapest one out there,I'd go to the beauty supply store. Cut a square ,try it outsee if you like the results before commiting to the whole shebang. "Sharon at Collierfam.com" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: So if you wanted to pleat silk, you would saturate with permanent wave solution, then rinse with plain water? Or would you let it air dry? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Melody Watts Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 11:56 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: RE: [h-cost] help for removing creases in silk? Another costumer and board mod is/was a costumer for the theater and movies. Pleated silk was recently discussed ,and the "secret" reveled...since silk is a protien -like hair- the material is prepleated ,secured with rubber bands and dipped in ...permanent wave solution! it sets the pleats---permanetely when I did hair ages ago we "air neutralized" the solution by just letting it air dry on the rollers,so no peroxide was involved to bleach out the hair. Don't see why this can't be done for silk. Sometimes, people would come in with a really tight perm the wanted "relaxed a bit" or totally removed. We would saturate the hair with wave solution, comb the hair straight,process and rinse,volia! ...straight hair again. This could work for the material,may require you using a long flat water proof surface,some inexpensive perm solution, and a bit of patience wetting and smoothing those wrinkles. I'd chop off a small piece and try.nothing to loose. Melody "Sharon at Collierfam.com" wrote: I remember my costume prof in college showing us a Fortuny silk dress. It was permanantly pleated and you could ball it up and it would still be in pleats ages later. When it first came out, it was a big deal and the process was a closely guarded secret (according to my teacher). -Original Message- To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] help for removing creases in silk? snip I believe that for a good crinkle silk a chemical process is involved, but don't know the details. Fran Dawn wrote: > I bought some of that pleated silk that was popular a few years ago, > and I'd like to remove the creases. Does anyone know how this can be done? > Dawn > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] help for removing creases in silk?
So if you wanted to pleat silk, you would saturate with permanent wave solution, then rinse with plain water? Or would you let it air dry? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Melody Watts Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 11:56 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: RE: [h-cost] help for removing creases in silk? Another costumer and board mod is/was a costumer for the theater and movies. Pleated silk was recently discussed ,and the "secret" reveled...since silk is a protien -like hair- the material is prepleated ,secured with rubber bands and dipped in ...permanent wave solution! it sets the pleats---permanetely when I did hair ages ago we "air neutralized" the solution by just letting it air dry on the rollers,so no peroxide was involved to bleach out the hair. Don't see why this can't be done for silk. Sometimes, people would come in with a really tight perm the wanted "relaxed a bit" or totally removed. We would saturate the hair with wave solution, comb the hair straight,process and rinse,volia! ...straight hair again. This could work for the material,may require you using a long flat water proof surface,some inexpensive perm solution, and a bit of patience wetting and smoothing those wrinkles. I'd chop off a small piece and try.nothing to loose. Melody "Sharon at Collierfam.com" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I remember my costume prof in college showing us a Fortuny silk dress. It was permanantly pleated and you could ball it up and it would still be in pleats ages later. When it first came out, it was a big deal and the process was a closely guarded secret (according to my teacher). -----Original Message- To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] help for removing creases in silk? snip I believe that for a good crinkle silk a chemical process is involved, but don't know the details. Fran Lavolta Press http://www.lavoltapress.com Dawn wrote: > I bought some of that pleated silk that was popular a few years ago, > and > I'd like to remove the creases. Does anyone know how this can be done? > > > > Dawn > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] help for removing creases in silk?
Another costumer and board mod is/was a costumer for the theater and movies. Pleated silk was recently discussed ,and the "secret" reveled...since silk is a protien -like hair- the material is prepleated ,secured with rubber bands and dipped in ...permanent wave solution! it sets the pleats---permanetely when I did hair ages ago we "air neutralized" the solution by just letting it air dry on the rollers,so no peroxide was involved to bleach out the hair. Don't see why this can't be done for silk. Sometimes, people would come in with a really tight perm the wanted "relaxed a bit" or totally removed. We would saturate the hair with wave solution, comb the hair straight,process and rinse,volia! ...straight hair again. This could work for the material,may require you using a long flat water proof surface,some inexpensive perm solution, and a bit of patience wetting and smoothing those wrinkles. I'd chop off a small piece and try.nothing to loose. Melody "Sharon at Collierfam.com" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I remember my costume prof in college showing us a Fortuny silk dress. It was permanantly pleated and you could ball it up and it would still be in pleats ages later. When it first came out, it was a big deal and the process was a closely guarded secret (according to my teacher). -----Original Message- To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] help for removing creases in silk? snip I believe that for a good crinkle silk a chemical process is involved, but don't know the details. Fran Lavolta Press http://www.lavoltapress.com Dawn wrote: > I bought some of that pleated silk that was popular a few years ago, > and > I'd like to remove the creases. Does anyone know how this can be done? > > > > Dawn > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] help for removing creases in silk?
I remember my costume prof in college showing us a Fortuny silk dress. It was permanantly pleated and you could ball it up and it would still be in pleats ages later. When it first came out, it was a big deal and the process was a closely guarded secret (according to my teacher). -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lavolta Press Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 2:54 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] help for removing creases in silk? If you mean crinkle silk, I think it's currently in style for gypsy skirts--you might try just making a skirt(s) or trading with someone who wants a crinkle skirt. I believe that for a good crinkle silk a chemical process is involved, but don't know the details. Fran Lavolta Press http://www.lavoltapress.com Dawn wrote: > I bought some of that pleated silk that was popular a few years ago, > and > I'd like to remove the creases. Does anyone know how this can be done? > I've tried ironing the dickens out of it, and wetting it, without much > luck. > > > Dawn > > > ___ > h-costume mailing list > h-costume@mail.indra.com > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > > ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] help for removing creases in silk?
If you mean crinkle silk, I think it's currently in style for gypsy skirts--you might try just making a skirt(s) or trading with someone who wants a crinkle skirt. I believe that for a good crinkle silk a chemical process is involved, but don't know the details. Fran Lavolta Press http://www.lavoltapress.com Dawn wrote: I bought some of that pleated silk that was popular a few years ago, and I'd like to remove the creases. Does anyone know how this can be done? I've tried ironing the dickens out of it, and wetting it, without much luck. Dawn ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] help for removing creases in silk?
You can also try the vinegar/water trick. Sylrog On Jun 13, 2006, at 6:23 PM, Catherine Olanich Raymond wrote: On Tuesday 13 June 2006 5:30 pm, Dawn wrote: I bought some of that pleated silk that was popular a few years ago, and I'd like to remove the creases. Does anyone know how this can be done? I've tried ironing the dickens out of it, and wetting it, without much luck. I usually find that a combination of steam, gentle spritzing with water and ironing works to remove creases from silk. Probably you need to use a higher setting than the iron makers typically recommend (I usually use the same one I use for wools). If the silk wasn't so expensive that experimenting will traumatize you, experiment a little. If it was, consider talking to a friendly drycleaner and asking assistance/advice. -- Cathy Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "I'm starting to like the cut of this man's gibberish." --General Fillmore (from "The Tick," episode 2) ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] help for removing creases in silk?
On Tuesday 13 June 2006 5:30 pm, Dawn wrote: > I bought some of that pleated silk that was popular a few years ago, and > I'd like to remove the creases. Does anyone know how this can be done? > I've tried ironing the dickens out of it, and wetting it, without much > luck. > I usually find that a combination of steam, gentle spritzing with water and ironing works to remove creases from silk. Probably you need to use a higher setting than the iron makers typically recommend (I usually use the same one I use for wools). If the silk wasn't so expensive that experimenting will traumatize you, experiment a little. If it was, consider talking to a friendly drycleaner and asking assistance/advice. -- Cathy Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "I'm starting to like the cut of this man's gibberish." --General Fillmore (from "The Tick," episode 2) ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
