Re: [h-cost] Native American fiber sources

2009-10-01 Thread otsisto
The original "sinew" was from the deer. Modern day is wax dipped cotton.
North eastern and western are said to have used cedar. It was stripped,
dried, pounded and then shredded, then woven. Cherokee used mulberry but
this may be after 1600s as I don't believe that mulberry is indigenous to
the Americas.
Birch bark was used in the north east as well.

A native bark skirt of Baja
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-Original Message-

 You can get everything you need from animal sources, even without wooly
sheep. Sinew makes a good cord, and NA's were known to use it. Bark was also
used, but I don't think in pounded form, such as you find in Africa and
Polynesia.

Kim
-Original Message-
On Sep 30, 2009, at 9:18 AM, cbellfl...@aol.com wrote:

I wonder whether bark-based fibers or pounded-bark cloth might have been
possibilities. If Native Americans made cord (which I'm sure they
did) then there must have been *some* sources of fiber available.

I


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Re: [h-cost] Native American fiber sources

2009-10-01 Thread Käthe Barrows
> North eastern and western are said to have used cedar. It was stripped,
> dried, pounded and then shredded, then woven.

I think you're right about that.

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Re: [h-cost] Native American fiber sources

2009-10-01 Thread Wanda Pease

otsisto wrote:


 You can get everything you need from animal sources, even without wooly
sheep. Sinew makes a good cord, and NA's were known to use it. Bark was also
used, but I don't think in pounded form, such as you find in Africa and
Polynesia.

Kim
I remember one of the local "Ranger Shows" at Yellowstone talking about 
Indian dogs.  They used to pull travois before horses became common, and 
their undercoat made fabric.  Anyone who has one of the long haired 
breeds like Husky knows that you can practically make two other dogs out 
of the hair they shed every time you groom them.  The Ranger said that 
the particular breed had died out or been interbred so much with those 
brought in with the settlers that you can't identify them specifically  
any longer. 

Even now there are people who will spin and weave you something from 
your dogs shed hair for a price.  I saw a lovely  big bag like a 
pilgrim's script made from the undercoat of a Labrador Retriever, so 
having long hair isn't a requirement.  Having a nice thick undercoat 
would be the way to go.


Wanda
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