Re: [h-cost] The Golden Age(film)/Dracula

2007-07-13 Thread AlbertCat
 
In a message dated 7/13/2007 7:58:19 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

However,  I think it´s a great 
idea to dress a vampire like a  reptile!



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I agree. But without foreknowledge of her idea... the costume has nothing  to 
do with conveying anything reptilian. 
Now, how does she explain making Dracula look like Leon Russell?
 
The problem with that film goes way beyond the costumes. For one it's "Bram  
Stoker's" Dracula they made a big noise about following the book. Then  the
 very 1st scene and sequence in the film is NOT in the book. Hm...looks  
like trouble ahead. And it is. There are some very interesting ideas in the  
film, but it comes across as if the producers and powers that be thought EVERY  
idea they had was fabulous and we'd just love them too. There's no tightening 
of  ideas and concepts. It's literally all over the place. And, no, we don't 
love  them all. There's something tragically wrong with every shotand it's 
 different in each mistake.



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Re: [h-cost] The Golden Age(film)/Dracula

2007-07-13 Thread Melanie Schuessler


On Jul 13, 2007, at 7:42 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Then don't, at the beginning of the film, put up a date in 20 ft high
numbers:

1898


Yes.  It's one thing to have some fantasy-based costumes in a vampire  
film (though perhaps we shouldn't talk about the strapless orange  
chiffon nightie...), but when you have a particular date, things that  
are quite accurate for another date are confusing.  Mina's big  
bustles were awfully out of style for 1898!


Melanie Schuessler
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Re: [h-cost] The Golden Age(film)/Dracula

2007-07-13 Thread Hanna Zickermann

Hi,

at school, we´ve got a book of Eiko Ishioka´s 
work with lots of pictures from all the movies 
she made. I remember having seen a picture of 
Lucy with fangs in her wedding dress next to the 
photo of an angry Australian lizard. Apparently, 
the inspiration for the ruff was not only from a 
historical source. However, I think it´s a great 
idea to dress a vampire like a reptile!


Hanna


At 13:36 13.07.2007, you wrote:

At 12:10 13/07/2007, you wrote:

> Really? What period?
I'd have to dig up the reference, but the robe and particularly the hair
(yes, the butt-hair) were based on 15th-century Romanian burial costume.


I'm pretty sure the book of the costumes said they were based on
Kabuki costume rather than anything European. That said Lucy's wedding
dress I'm sure was based on a portrait in 20,000 Years of Fashion and
is early-mid 17thC. I just saw it again recently online I also
found a similar painting which shows it was a fashion of some
particular place and time.


And the same artist too. I recognised that in 
the film - nothing to do with Romania, 
Transylvania, and the 19th century, but hey, this is fiction, right?



 And the book said it was based on something
else.
http://www.bildindex.de/bilder/mi06985b12a.jpg
And the similar portrait:
http://www.bildindex.de/bilder/mi06985b11a.jpg

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Re: [h-cost] The Golden Age(film)/Dracula

2007-07-13 Thread AlbertCat
 
In a message dated 7/13/2007 7:37:10 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

nothing  to 
do with Romania, Transylvania, and the 19th century, but hey, this is  
fiction, right?




 
Then don't, at the beginning of the film, put up a date in 20 ft high  
numbers:
 
1898
 
 



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Re: [h-cost] The Golden Age(film)/Dracula

2007-07-13 Thread Suzi Clarke

At 12:10 13/07/2007, you wrote:

> Really? What period?
I'd have to dig up the reference, but the robe and particularly the hair
(yes, the butt-hair) were based on 15th-century Romanian burial costume.


I'm pretty sure the book of the costumes said they were based on
Kabuki costume rather than anything European. That said Lucy's wedding
dress I'm sure was based on a portrait in 20,000 Years of Fashion and
is early-mid 17thC. I just saw it again recently online I also
found a similar painting which shows it was a fashion of some
particular place and time.


And the same artist too. I recognised that in the film - nothing to 
do with Romania, Transylvania, and the 19th century, but hey, this is 
fiction, right?



 And the book said it was based on something
else.
http://www.bildindex.de/bilder/mi06985b12a.jpg
And the similar portrait:
http://www.bildindex.de/bilder/mi06985b11a.jpg

Micahela de Bruce
http://glittersweet.com
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Re: [h-cost] The Golden Age(film)/Dracula

2007-07-13 Thread michaela de bruce

> Really? What period?
I'd have to dig up the reference, but the robe and particularly the hair
(yes, the butt-hair) were based on 15th-century Romanian burial costume.


I'm pretty sure the book of the costumes said they were based on
Kabuki costume rather than anything European. That said Lucy's wedding
dress I'm sure was based on a portrait in 20,000 Years of Fashion and
is early-mid 17thC. I just saw it again recently online I also
found a similar painting which shows it was a fashion of some
particular place and time. And the book said it was based on something
else.
http://www.bildindex.de/bilder/mi06985b12a.jpg
And the similar portrait:
http://www.bildindex.de/bilder/mi06985b11a.jpg

Micahela de Bruce
http://glittersweet.com
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Re: [h-cost] The Golden Age(film)/Dracula

2007-07-12 Thread AlbertCat
 
In a message dated 7/12/2007 3:23:43 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

the  funny thing is the Old Oldman Dracula butt-hair costume was one
>of the  more historically-consistent designs in that film...

Really? What  period?



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Bram Stoker's Dracula ["They can't blame this mess on Bram Stoker!"] is one  
of those films I love to hate. The costumes, though individually beautiful, 
are  the worst. Except for maybe "Amedeus". They're individually  tasteless.



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Re: [h-cost] The Golden Age(film)/Dracula

2007-07-12 Thread Andrew Trembley

Suzi Clarke wrote:

At 01:45 12/07/2007, you wrote:

On Jul 11, 2007, at 5:12 PM, Anne Moeller wrote:

It's a pity she looks like Gary Oldman in "Dracula" in one of the
pictures!! (The bifurcated wig and lime green silk dress one.)



Suzi



I knew that dreadful look was familiar.  Yuk!!
I would love to know what inspired that!  Does anyone know who the
costume
designer is on this movie?


the funny thing is the Old Oldman Dracula butt-hair costume was one
of the more historically-consistent designs in that film...


Really? What period?
I'd have to dig up the reference, but the robe and particularly the hair 
(yes, the butt-hair) were based on 15th-century Romanian burial costume.


andy

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Re: [h-cost] The Golden Age(film)/Dracula

2007-07-12 Thread Suzi Clarke

At 01:45 12/07/2007, you wrote:

On Jul 11, 2007, at 5:12 PM, Anne Moeller wrote:

It's a pity she looks like Gary Oldman in "Dracula" in one of the
pictures!! (The bifurcated wig and lime green silk dress one.)



Suzi



I knew that dreadful look was familiar.  Yuk!!
I would love to know what inspired that!  Does anyone know who the
costume
designer is on this movie?


the funny thing is the Old Oldman Dracula butt-hair costume was one
of the more historically-consistent designs in that film...


Really? What period?

Suzi

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