Re: [Hampshire] Bad GPG signatures
On Tue, Jan 06, 2009 at 11:31:31PM +, Jacqui Caren wrote: > Dr Adam Trickett wrote: > > On Tuesday 06 Jan 2009, Hugo Mills wrote: > >>I've upgraded mutt and gpg on my server to etch-backports, and > >> changed the /etc/Muttrc to the packaged version, and my last mail > >> checks out OK with a good signature on the desktop box, but fails on > >> the server. I think the next job is to strace mutt and find out what > >> it's doing when it checks the GPG signatures. > > > > This message now looks good. > > Locale LC_*? Identical on both machines. Hugo. -- === Hugo Mills: h...@... carfax.org.uk | darksatanic.net | lug.org.uk === PGP key: 515C238D from wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net or http://www.carfax.org.uk --- The makers of Steinway pianos would like me to tell you that --- this is a Bechstein. signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Bad GPG signatures
Dr Adam Trickett wrote: > On Tuesday 06 Jan 2009, Hugo Mills wrote: >>I've upgraded mutt and gpg on my server to etch-backports, and >> changed the /etc/Muttrc to the packaged version, and my last mail >> checks out OK with a good signature on the desktop box, but fails on >> the server. I think the next job is to strace mutt and find out what >> it's doing when it checks the GPG signatures. > > This message now looks good. Locale LC_*? -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Forum software
Tim wrote: > I need to enquire on the collective the wisdom of the Hampshire lug > > I got asked by one of the directors at work if it was possible to setup a > forum on our network If you want a forum then mwforum.org (Perl based) is a good forum and much cleaner than phpBB3 . If you think the staff will understand a wiki then mediawiki (database, simple setup) or moinmoin (Python, flat file, initial install is more complicated though simple to backup) are good choices. A Wiki format is not good for non-tech (computer) people, so I would advise a forum. John. -- -- Discover Linux - Open Source Solutions to Business and Schools http://discoverlinux.co.uk -- -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Bad GPG signatures
On Tue, 06 Jan 2009 20:02:33 + Chris Smith wrote: Hello Chris, > Interesting. This one's good for me. Bad here, sadly. Several of Hugo's other recent messages have had good signatures though. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent" The stakes were high but the danger low Charade - Skids signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Bad GPG signatures
On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 15:22:56 + Hugo Mills wrote: Hello Hugo, >On investigation, it seems that all of the bad sigs (and some good > ones) were sent from my server, which is what I use most of the time. The bad sigs I've seen from other people are sometimes caused by an overly long comment (or similar) in the signature block, which gets wrapped by mailing list software. Looking at your messages, that clearly isn't the case. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent" Go away, come back, go away, come back Leave Me Alone (I'm Lonely) - P!nk signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Bad GPG signatures
On Tue, Jan 06, 2009 at 08:04:05PM +, Chris Smith wrote: > Dr Adam Trickett wrote: > > On Tuesday 06 Jan 2009, Hugo Mills wrote: > >>Test message. > > > > Looks good. > > And this one is bad for me. (Ubuntu Intrepid, gpg 1.4.9) This is good on gpg 1.4.9 (my desktop), but bad on gpg 1.4.6 (my server). Adam, Andy -- what versions of gpg are you using? Hugo. -- === Hugo Mills: h...@... carfax.org.uk | darksatanic.net | lug.org.uk === PGP key: 515C238D from wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net or http://www.carfax.org.uk --- Great oxymorons of the world, no. 4: Future Perfect --- signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Bad GPG signatures
Dr Adam Trickett wrote: > On Tuesday 06 Jan 2009, Hugo Mills wrote: >>Test message. > > Looks good. And this one is bad for me. (Ubuntu Intrepid, gpg 1.4.9) Chris -- Chris Smith signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Bad GPG signatures
Dr Adam Trickett wrote: > On Tuesday 06 Jan 2009, Hugo Mills wrote: >>Test message. > > BAD Interesting. This one's good for me. Chris -- Chris Smith signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
[Hampshire] ebay bargains (was: Re: S-Video)
B STEVENS wrote: > I bought mine from ebay. It cost £4.48 (including postage) as opposed > to the £79.99 from Currys. > > Okay, with postage my ebay bargain doesn't look quite so good, but I got a new Antec PSU to replace my daughter's noisy no-name effort in her Antec case* for a penny! A system builder was selling two, having replaced them with something beefier for his customer, with one auctioned on one night the other on the next night. I missed the one on the first night being outbid (£10.50 being the closing price IIRC), but the following night all the competition had been crushed! Postage cost me £7.99, but given the weight, prompt dispatch and good packaging I wasn't too upset! Sean * ebuyer replaced a faulty Antec PSU that was sold with the case with this cruddy effort when I returned it - shoulda checked when it came back I guess but I trusted them to replace like with like. -- The computer can't tell you the emotional story. It can give you the exact mathematical design, but what's missing is the eyebrows. Frank Zappa -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] [ADMIN] Late breaking Meeting news
On Monday 05 January 2009 18:22:21 Damian Brasher wrote: > Tim wrote: > > Is there not another room available at the Uni, its a big place with lots > > of > > rooms?? > > There are, I went through this process last November, it's not so easy to > find somewhere as easy accessible and the costs are high to cover security > if we use rooms other than those we usually do. There really are no other > convenient rooms at zero cost to Hants Lug. > > Damian > > -- > http://www.diap.org.uk - distributed backup volume management system. > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. Well I am free that Saturday as well so I will pop along, interested in Tony's digital talk Tim -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Forum software
On Tuesday 06 January 2009 17:11:54 Steve Wesemeyer wrote: > On Tuesday 06 January 2009, Tim wrote: > > I need to enquire on the collective the wisdom of the Hampshire lug > > > > I got asked by one of the directors at work if it was possible to setup a > > forum on our network at work (only internal access) so that our workshop > > staff can post service messages\questions amongst themselves. We have 11 > > site around the UK connected by a wan. Now I said yes thinking its an > > ideal time to get a linux box in the door. > > Tim, > > Before you embark on this, there are a couple of questions that you should > also ask yourself: > > - Are you happy to support this box, ie do the routine backups and usual > maintenance work on top of your daily work? > > - If your company has an IT department looking after your infrastructure > (which seems to be MS based), are they happy with a box on their network > that they cannot support when you are on holiday? > > Other than that, most FLOSS forum software is PHP based and will usually > work on a WAMP as well as a LAMP set-up. > > Cheers, > Steve Thanks for all the suggestions guys, I will look into them. I am the IT department at work so I will be looking after it. I have been wanting to do this for a while and I think it is small scale enough to do (other projects I have considered using linux have been large scale and not something I want to be supporting). I think going the linux route would be better to prove the point that there is free software out there that can match and beat windows software. No doubt I will have some questions in the future but I will keep you posted has to what I do, maybe it could be the basis for a talk at a lug meeting, bring free linux software into the windows powered office Tim -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] S-Video
I bought mine from ebay. It cost £4.48 (including postage) as opposed to the £79.99 from Currys. Regards Bryan --- On Tue, 6/1/09, Paul Stimpson wrote: You can also connect a graphics card with DVI to an HDMI monitor with a simple adaptor you should be able to pick up for about a tenner at somewhere like Richer Sounds. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Bad GPG signatures
On Tuesday 06 Jan 2009, Hugo Mills wrote: >Test message. BAD -- Adam Trickett Overton, HANTS, UK A bank is a place where they lend you an umbrella in fair weather and ask for it back when it begins to rain. -- Robert Frost signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Bad GPG signatures
On Tuesday 06 Jan 2009, Hugo Mills wrote: >Test message. Looks good. -- Adam Trickett Overton, HANTS, UK Capitalism is the extraordinary belief that the nastiest of men, for the nastiest of reasons, will somehow work for the benefit of us all. -- John Maynard Keynes signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Bad GPG signatures
On Tuesday 06 Jan 2009, Hugo Mills wrote: > >I've upgraded mutt and gpg on my server to etch-backports, and > changed the /etc/Muttrc to the packaged version, and my last mail > checks out OK with a good signature on the desktop box, but fails on > the server. I think the next job is to strace mutt and find out what > it's doing when it checks the GPG signatures. This message now looks good. -- Adam Trickett Overton, HANTS, UK Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced -- anon signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Bad GPG signatures
Test message. -- === Hugo Mills: h...@... carfax.org.uk | darksatanic.net | lug.org.uk === PGP key: 515C238D from wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net or http://www.carfax.org.uk --- Great oxymorons of the world, no. 2: Common Sense --- signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Bad GPG signatures
Test message. -- === Hugo Mills: h...@... carfax.org.uk | darksatanic.net | lug.org.uk === PGP key: 515C238D from wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net or http://www.carfax.org.uk --- Great oxymorons of the world, no. 2: Common Sense --- signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Bad GPG signatures
On Tue, Jan 06, 2009 at 06:36:18PM +, Andy Smith wrote: > Hi Hugo, > > On Tue, Jan 06, 2009 at 05:21:46PM +, Hugo Mills wrote: > >I've upgraded mutt and gpg on my server to etch-backports, and > > changed the /etc/Muttrc to the packaged version, and my last mail > > checks out OK with a good signature on the desktop box, but fails on > > the server. I think the next job is to strace mutt and find out what > > it's doing when it checks the GPG signatures. > > Conversely, the signature on this mail is bad now, for me. I've found that the signature flips state depending on which machine I'm on. Signatures made on a particular machine read as good on that machine, and bad on the other. (This is my server, vlad, vs my desktop, selene). I'm going to send two identical mails to the list, one from each box. Maybe that will help figure it out. Hugo. -- === Hugo Mills: h...@... carfax.org.uk | darksatanic.net | lug.org.uk === PGP key: 515C238D from wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net or http://www.carfax.org.uk --- Great oxymorons of the world, no. 2: Common Sense --- signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Bad GPG signatures
Hi Hugo, On Tue, Jan 06, 2009 at 05:21:46PM +, Hugo Mills wrote: >I've upgraded mutt and gpg on my server to etch-backports, and > changed the /etc/Muttrc to the packaged version, and my last mail > checks out OK with a good signature on the desktop box, but fails on > the server. I think the next job is to strace mutt and find out what > it's doing when it checks the GPG signatures. Conversely, the signature on this mail is bad now, for me. Cheers, Andy signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] [ADMIN] January Meeting UPDATE!
2009/1/5 Hants LUG Chairman : > On Sunday 04 Jan 2009, Hants LUG Chairman wrote: >> Hi, > > ! BIG NOTICE ! > >> Our next meeting will take place as planned on Saturday 10 January 2009 >> between 10:30 and 16:00 in Seminar Room 1 at Southampton University. > > The meeting has been postponed by one week because the University want our > room on the 10 of January. Our meeting will therefore take place one week > later on Saturday 17 January. > > We still have one confirmed talk: "Developing Nicely: Digital Photography on > Linux" by Tony Whitmore, with the possibility of a two more. I'd be willing > to repeat any of my talks in case you missed one and would like to hear it. I should like to hear Tony's talk. > > Details are on the LUG in the usual place: > http://www.hants.lug.org.uk/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?17January2009 > > -- > Adam Trickett > Chairman, Hampshire Linux Users Group >http://www.hants.lug.org.uk/ > > -- > Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk > Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire > LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk > -- > -- Clive Woodfine -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] [ADMIN] URGENT Meeting news
2009/1/5 Dr Adam Trickett : > I think Damian has got us in the next Saturday for this occasion, but we are > always looking for new possible locations. > For me the following Saturday, 17th, at Southampton would be beast. Clive Woodfine -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Bad GPG signatures
On Tue, Jan 06, 2009 at 03:47:25PM +, Dr Adam J Trickett wrote: > On Tue, 06 Jan 2009 at 03:22:56PM +, Hugo Mills wrote: > > > > > > H.. :-( > > > >On investigation, it seems that all of the bad sigs (and some good > > ones) were sent from my server, which is what I use most of the time. > > I haven't yet found a bad signature on mails sent from my desktop > > machine. However, both machines have exactly the same mutt *and* gpg > > configuration -- they share a home directory, and /etc/Muttrc is > > identical on both machines. > > I did wonder, it seemed odd that your signatures would be bad. > I've been meaning to mention it for ages but kept forgetting. > > I notice other people on various lists have problem signatures now > and then and I do try and let people know when I can. I've upgraded mutt and gpg on my server to etch-backports, and changed the /etc/Muttrc to the packaged version, and my last mail checks out OK with a good signature on the desktop box, but fails on the server. I think the next job is to strace mutt and find out what it's doing when it checks the GPG signatures. Hugo. -- === Hugo Mills: h...@... carfax.org.uk | darksatanic.net | lug.org.uk === PGP key: 515C238D from wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net or http://www.carfax.org.uk --- What do you give the man who has everything? -- Penicillin is --- a good start... signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Forum software
On Tuesday 06 January 2009, Tim wrote: > I need to enquire on the collective the wisdom of the Hampshire lug > > I got asked by one of the directors at work if it was possible to setup a > forum on our network at work (only internal access) so that our workshop > staff can post service messages\questions amongst themselves. We have 11 > site around the UK connected by a wan. Now I said yes thinking its an ideal > time to get a linux box in the door. Tim, Before you embark on this, there are a couple of questions that you should also ask yourself: - Are you happy to support this box, ie do the routine backups and usual maintenance work on top of your daily work? - If your company has an IT department looking after your infrastructure (which seems to be MS based), are they happy with a box on their network that they cannot support when you are on holiday? Other than that, most FLOSS forum software is PHP based and will usually work on a WAMP as well as a LAMP set-up. Cheers, Steve -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Forum software
I find mediawiki a bit heavy. Dokuwiki is my personal favourite and it uses the filesystem instead of nasssty databases. We also use Request Tracker at work and it's not bad and has the benefit of being (able to be) tied into your email system. Joe -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Forum software
2009/1/6 Daniel Pope : > Tim wrote: > But today I got to thinking could we get a way with using a Wiki, is it >> possible?? > > With a wiki the quality of the content becomes better over time as it is > amended > and improved and that can grow to be an authoritative reference. However there > are only simple conventions for dialogue on a wiki that don't make it easy to > simply ask questions and receive answers. > > With a forum, any information is buried in reams of dialogue but obviously you > can ask questions and receive answers. > >> I know of bugzilla which is a rather large and powerful bug >> track system and mantis. > > Trac combines a bug tracker and a wiki. > I was going to suggest trac but Dan beat me to it! http://trac.edgewall.org/ I have it on Ubuntu; I would imagine that Deb should not be a problem. It does involve a fair bit of setting up, but there is a very active support community and it is in use by an increasing number of Open Source projects. (Even my PHB is impressed with it...) -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Forum software
> Problem is I have no idea about forum software (and very little about > apache), > I found phpBB (which I know about from a couple of forums I am subscribed > to). But today I got to thinking could we get a way with using a Wiki, is > it > possible?? Not only possible - I'd reccomend it. We ran a Wiki at a place I used to work - as a way of keeping track of what's going on in the department, it's ideal. It doesn't completely *replace* a forum, but it is a good place to have infomal discussions, and all the results are logged and presented properly. > I am > mindful that this could easily be expanded to other uses so could end up > being used by all staff (200+) but never all at the same time. That's a small number of users. You'll need some moderately good hardware to run it on (i.e. less than 5 years old, I'd guess), but that'll easily fit on a single PC. > I am > particularly interested in basic text type (that why I though of the a > wiki > as opposed to a forum) as opposed to heavy graphical type. Wiki markup allows you to do all sorts of things if you really want to - but text covers most of your requirements and is easy for all users. Fora are unlikely to support more graphical stuff than a wiki... > Further more this also give me the opportunity to get a pet project of > mine > off the ground which is a bug track system. This is purely for user to > register hardware or software problems (non urgent) plus suggestions for > improvements. Now I looked into this a while ago but had to stop due to > other > commitments. I know of bugzilla which is a rather large and powerful bug > track system and mantis. I prefer RT - but that's more through familiarity than anything else. Mantis also looked fairly good last time I looked, and there's OTRS as well. All of these are fairly easy to get going. What you should do with a ticket system is to decide on the main structure of the thing before you get too far into it - how many queues, how many user groups, that sort of thing. > While google offers a wealth of information I am interested to hear from > those > that use or have a similar setup, personal experience is of greater value. I've used RT and MediaWiki on many occasions. They're very good. > The only thing that is certain about this project is that my distro of > choice > will Debian as that what I have been running for the last few years. Well, everything I do is on Whitebox - but the distro is largely irrelevant. Vic. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Forum software
Tim wrote: But today I got to thinking could we get a way with using a Wiki, is it > possible?? With a wiki the quality of the content becomes better over time as it is amended and improved and that can grow to be an authoritative reference. However there are only simple conventions for dialogue on a wiki that don't make it easy to simply ask questions and receive answers. With a forum, any information is buried in reams of dialogue but obviously you can ask questions and receive answers. > I know of bugzilla which is a rather large and powerful bug > track system and mantis. Trac combines a bug tracker and a wiki. Dan. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
[Hampshire] Forum software
I need to enquire on the collective the wisdom of the Hampshire lug I got asked by one of the directors at work if it was possible to setup a forum on our network at work (only internal access) so that our workshop staff can post service messages\questions amongst themselves. We have 11 site around the UK connected by a wan. Now I said yes thinking its an ideal time to get a linux box in the door. Now I guess this means running apache web server, mySQL and PHP as well as some forum software. Problem is I have no idea about forum software (and very little about apache), I found phpBB (which I know about from a couple of forums I am subscribed to). But today I got to thinking could we get a way with using a Wiki, is it possible?? The 11 site only equals approx. 50 users top and they won't all be on the system at the same time (there is only 20 PC's anyway). But I am mindful that this could easily be expanded to other uses so could end up being used by all staff (200+) but never all at the same time. I am particularly interested in basic text type (that why I though of the a wiki as opposed to a forum) as opposed to heavy graphical type. Further more this also give me the opportunity to get a pet project of mine off the ground which is a bug track system. This is purely for user to register hardware or software problems (non urgent) plus suggestions for improvements. Now I looked into this a while ago but had to stop due to other commitments. I know of bugzilla which is a rather large and powerful bug track system and mantis. While google offers a wealth of information I am interested to hear from those that use or have a similar setup, personal experience is of greater value. The only thing that is certain about this project is that my distro of choice will Debian as that what I have been running for the last few years. Thanks in advance Tim -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Bad GPG signatures
On Tue, 06 Jan 2009 at 03:22:56PM +, Hugo Mills wrote: > > > > H.. :-( > >On investigation, it seems that all of the bad sigs (and some good > ones) were sent from my server, which is what I use most of the time. > I haven't yet found a bad signature on mails sent from my desktop > machine. However, both machines have exactly the same mutt *and* gpg > configuration -- they share a home directory, and /etc/Muttrc is > identical on both machines. I did wonder, it seemed odd that your signatures would be bad. I've been meaning to mention it for ages but kept forgetting. I notice other people on various lists have problem signatures now and then and I do try and let people know when I can. -- Adam Trickett Overton, HANTS, UK Stupidity maintained long enough is a form of malice. -- Richard Bos's corollary -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Bad GPG signatures
On Tue, Jan 06, 2009 at 12:54:44PM +, Brad Rogers wrote: > On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 12:52:45 + > Hugo Mills wrote: > > Hello Hugo, > > >OK, that's *really* weird. My copy-to-self of that mail is bad. > > And just to prove me a liar, the sig on that message validated okay. > > H.. :-( On investigation, it seems that all of the bad sigs (and some good ones) were sent from my server, which is what I use most of the time. I haven't yet found a bad signature on mails sent from my desktop machine. However, both machines have exactly the same mutt *and* gpg configuration -- they share a home directory, and /etc/Muttrc is identical on both machines. Hugo. -- === Hugo Mills: h...@... carfax.org.uk | darksatanic.net | lug.org.uk === PGP key: 515C238D from wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net or http://www.carfax.org.uk --- Charting the inexorable advance of Western syphilisation... --- signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] [ADMIN] Late breaking Meeting news
On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 12:52:45 + Hugo Mills wrote: Hello Hugo, >OK, that's *really* weird. My copy-to-self of that mail is bad. And just to prove me a liar, the sig on that message validated okay. H.. :-( -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent" White people going to school, where they teach you to be thick White Riot - The Clash signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Colour printing on Ubuntu 8.04
Jim Kissel wrote: > Apologies to the list. Not a s/w problem. I know where you are coming from Jim, but no real need to apologise IMO - the information is now there for anyone else who encounters a similar problem and turns this thread up in a search, after all. I don't want that to sound patronising so much as to ensure that folk don't read the apology and then refrain from working stuff out in public for fear of offending people who are happy to work through this sort of thing! Sean -- The computer can't tell you the emotional story. It can give you the exact mathematical design, but what's missing is the eyebrows. Frank Zappa -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] [ADMIN] Late breaking Meeting news
On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 12:36:31 + Andy Smith wrote: Hello Andy, > On Mon, Jan 05, 2009 at 08:55:33PM +, Dr Adam Trickett wrote: > > PS. Why does your GPG signature show up as invalid? > It validated OK for me. Hugo's PGP sig is always invalid for me. $DEITY knows why though. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent" You never listen to a word that I said Public Image - Public Image Ltd signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] [ADMIN] Late breaking Meeting news
On Tue, Jan 06, 2009 at 12:36:31PM +, Andy Smith wrote: > Hi Adam, > > On Mon, Jan 05, 2009 at 08:55:33PM +, Dr Adam Trickett wrote: > > PS. Why does your GPG signature show up as invalid? > > It validated OK for me. OK, that's *really* weird. My copy-to-self of that mail is bad. Hugo. -- === Hugo Mills: h...@... carfax.org.uk | darksatanic.net | lug.org.uk === PGP key: 515C238D from wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net or http://www.carfax.org.uk --- The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one that --- heralds new discoveries, is not "Eureka!", but "That's funny..." signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] [ADMIN] Late breaking Meeting news
Hi Adam, On Mon, Jan 05, 2009 at 08:55:33PM +, Dr Adam Trickett wrote: > PS. Why does your GPG signature show up as invalid? It validated OK for me. Cheers, Andy signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] S-Video
Hi, You can also connect a graphics card with DVI to an HDMI monitor with a simple adaptor you should be able to pick up for about a tenner at somewhere like Richer Sounds. Cheers, Paul. Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device -Original Message- From: "James Courtier-Dutton" Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 12:20:09 To: Hampshire LUG Discussion List Subject: Re: [Hampshire] S-Video 2009/1/5 Rob Malpass : > > 32" ideally. It's just that time of year I guess. The shops I've looked > at that allow you to check stock levels prior to buying (argos, comet etc) > have plenty of 32" TVs without PC inputs, but I had to go over 400 quid > before I could find one both in stock and having PC input. There were > plenty 300-400 in stock without PC input. Maybe 32" were last year's "must > have" Christmas presents. > > I'll stick to TVs offering VGA and keep trying. > > Cheers > Rob > Why not try a HD TV. Most have HDMI inputs, you can then just change your graphics card in the PC to one with HDMI output. Note, the longer you wait, the cheaper HD TVs become. But, do remember that PC LCD displays have higher resolutions than HD TVs, so if you are doing close up work with a PC, using a standard PC LCD display is better than using a combined PC/TV screen. I would do the following: 1) Get a normal PC LCD display. 2) Keep your current graphics card. 3) Get a PC tuner card for your PC. This effectively turns a computer into a TV. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk -- -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] S-Video
> 32" ideally. It's just that time of year I guess. The shops I've > looked > at that allow you to check stock levels prior to buying (argos, comet etc) > have plenty of 32" TVs without PC inputs, but I had to go over 400 quid > before I could find one both in stock and having PC input. There were > plenty 300-400 in stock without PC input. Maybe 32" were last year's > "must > have" Christmas presents. > > I'll stick to TVs offering VGA and keep trying. Try richer sounds: For example, 32inch samsung with PC input (only 1366 x 768 though) for £299.95 and richer sounds extended guarantee's are great value as you can get the money back if you make no claim at the end of the time (provided you remember and can find the paper work) http://www.richersounds.com/showproduct.php?cda=showproduct&pid=SAMS-LE32A336 The shops are usually very helpful and will check stock if you phone them, and should allow you to try it out with the laptop. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] S-Video
2009/1/5 Rob Malpass : > > 32" ideally. It's just that time of year I guess. The shops I've looked > at that allow you to check stock levels prior to buying (argos, comet etc) > have plenty of 32" TVs without PC inputs, but I had to go over 400 quid > before I could find one both in stock and having PC input. There were > plenty 300-400 in stock without PC input. Maybe 32" were last year's "must > have" Christmas presents. > > I'll stick to TVs offering VGA and keep trying. > > Cheers > Rob > Why not try a HD TV. Most have HDMI inputs, you can then just change your graphics card in the PC to one with HDMI output. Note, the longer you wait, the cheaper HD TVs become. But, do remember that PC LCD displays have higher resolutions than HD TVs, so if you are doing close up work with a PC, using a standard PC LCD display is better than using a combined PC/TV screen. I would do the following: 1) Get a normal PC LCD display. 2) Keep your current graphics card. 3) Get a PC tuner card for your PC. This effectively turns a computer into a TV. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] S-Video
Rob Malpass wrote: > I'll stick to TVs offering VGA and keep trying. Have a look at the ALdi offerings - they have quite a range of TV's (most with dvi and/or VGA connections) and the prices are not too bad for 'high street'. Not bought one or even asked if I coudl plugthe lappie into one in store to check the picture quality. Jacqui -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Colour printing on Ubuntu 8.04
Simon Reap wrote: > Jim Kissel wrote: >> It's a bit behind the times, but colour printing via my Xerox 8550 >> Phaser was never a problem until I "upgraded" to 8.04. Now the colours >> are "muddy" Printing the Ubuntu logo gives: >> reds that are dark brown >> oranges that are brownish ornage >> yellows that are a dull goldish colour >> > Your colour cartridge is not working properly? The time of the failure > may have been a coincidence. What does a live CD or the printer > self-test (if it has one) look like? > The 8550 uses wax blocks CYMK, and I judge from the self-test that the latest blocks are not of the same quality as the original, or that they have degraded with time (18 months). The internal RGB printout tables just doesn't produce red 255,0,0 correctly. It an orange/brown. Even running the cleaning cycle hasn't improved the output. Apologies to the list. Not a s/w problem. -- Life is too short. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Building 32-bit apps on 64-bit host
2009/1/5 Adrian Bridgett : > On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 12:23:04 + (+), Richard Danter wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> I have been developing a couple of little apps to make my life easier >> at work. All has been going well until my host was upgraded to 64-bit. >> One of the libs I have to use is available only as 32-bit. The apps >> themselves are using Qt and of course they are 64-bit. >> >> Anyone know the correct way to build a 32-bit Qt app on a 64-bit host? > > I'd use a 32-bit chroot myself to remove any potential problem. Or a > VM. I asked the same question on the Qt mailing list and got a similar answer. :) Think I will just use another machine. Not quite as convenient, but since I have one I may as well use it. Thanks Rich -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
