Re: [Hampshire] Cheap Notebooks?

2009-05-12 Thread Adrian Bridgett
One thing that you may wish to check is hardware virtualisation
support - i.e. which CPU is in it and checking it in wikipedia.  Be
warned that many brand new (even quad core) processors don't have such
support - only specific models do.

Adrian

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Re: [Hampshire] Cheap Notebooks?

2009-05-12 Thread Chris. Aubrey-Smith
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 I know some people get second hand units, what can be bought for under
 £300?
 Where is reputable? I think the 12 screen format is probably best, so
 which
 models are okay to buy second hand and are happy running Debian or other
 Linux distros?

 Thanks in advance.

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 Overton, HANTS, UK


Adam,

As we discussed, I've bought a couple of excellent IBM ThinkPads from
Sterling XS and I've paid considerably less than £300.
They come with XP installed, but that can be scraped off...

Chris.



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 sure that there's something fishy going on.
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Re: [Hampshire] Cheap Notebooks?

2009-05-12 Thread john lewis
On Tue, 12 May 2009 09:16:45 +0100
Chris. Aubrey-Smith cas...@gmail.com wrote:

 As we discussed, I've bought a couple of excellent IBM ThinkPads from
 Sterling XS and I've paid considerably less than £300.

I'll second that, 2nd hand TPs can be a good buy, not so sure about the
more recent ones but older TPs are robust and well made and some are
even reasonably light weight.

Sterling XS proved OK judging by my experience getting a couple
from them.

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Re: [Hampshire] kill -9 pid now working

2009-05-12 Thread The Holy ettlz
On Tue, 2009-05-12 at 12:43 +0100, James Courtier-Dutton wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I have a system where kill -9 pid as root, is not working.
 As a result, even the reboot command also does nothing.
 
 Does anyone know why this might happen?

If a program gets caught in uninterruptible sleep, it cannot be killed.
I believe that this usually happens when the process is in kernel mode
doing waiting on some I/O and killing it at that point would result in
an inconsistency. Generally D-sleep shouldn't last long...

 renice seems to work, in that reading the new priority shows that the
 priority has changed.
 
 I can remotely connect to the system so it is functioning quite well
 up to a point.
 sync also just hangs.

This should not happen. Perhaps some part of the kernel is deadlocked?!
If you find out what's gone wrong, you should probably report a kernel
bug. Is any part of the filesystem remote?

James

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Re: [Hampshire] Cheap Notebooks?

2009-05-12 Thread alan c
Dr A. J. Trickett wrote:
 Hi,
 
 My old Dell Inspiron is coming to the end of it's life, I mostly use a 
 desktop 
 system so I don't need an all dancing notebook. I want a small/cheap 
 computer, for presentations at meetings and the occasional use away from 
 home.
 
 I can get a Dell Inspiron Mini 12 for £380 which comes shipped with Ubuntu.
 
 I can get a Novatech no name E15 Pro for £332 with no OS.
 
 The Dell is about the right size, the Novatech is probably larger than I 
 want. 
 I can also go for one of the many netbooks too (~ £250), though mostly they 
 come with the Windows Tax.
 
 I know some people get second hand units, what can be bought for under £300? 
 Where is reputable?

I am a regular FOSS exhibitor at bracknell computer fair and one
trader there I know deals in second hand laptops. Most come with the
original windows licence, although he has put ubuntu on a few which
have no licence. The regulations about dealing in second hand units
will change (tighten) later this year, and about 4 licences are
required for reputable dealers. If I wanted a laptop I would talk to
him, and get his comments I would also also seriously consider his
stock. Stock throughput is 100's per month. If you contact him,
mention me? (Bracknell computer fair Infopoint Free software display,
alan)

his name is Sean
www.wirelessconcepts.co.uk
enquir...@wirelessconcepts.co.uk
 07795 428794
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