Re: [Hampshire] eReaders

2010-09-13 Thread Russell Morris
The nook is apparently quite excellent, but I don't believe you can buy it
in this country.


On 13 September 2010 00:07, Stuart Sears stu...@sjsears.com wrote:

 On 12/09/10 22:24, Philip Stubbs wrote:
  I would be interested in peoples thoughts on ereaders.
 
  Ever since I first read about eink displays, I have been fascinated.
  Recently, the price has dropped to a point where I am seriously
  tempted, but I have a problem.
 
  The two that interest me the most are the Kindle from Amazon, and the
  new Sony PRS-350 due out soon. They both have the ability to display
  PDF's but only the Sony will work with industry standard ePub format,
  avoiding the lock in to Amazon with the Kindle.

 I'll let you know how that goes, my kindle arrives this week :)
 it is a little daft that it doesn't support epub, but it does read MOBI
 and I'll convert to that for non-amazon books, I expect.

 Or plain old txt, I suppose.

  After all that, the short question is, does anybody use an ereader and
  if so, who have you got on using it with Linux?

 FBReader on my HTC android phone, like Jan.

  P.S. I already know about Calibre :-)

 well, there you go, then :)

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Re: [Hampshire] eReaders

2010-09-13 Thread john lewis
On Sun, 12 Sep 2010 22:24:02 +0100
Philip Stubbs phi...@stuphi.co.uk wrote:

 I would be interested in peoples thoughts on ereaders.
 
 Ever since I first read about eink displays, I have been fascinated.
 Recently, the price has dropped to a point where I am seriously
 tempted, but I have a problem.
 
 The two that interest me the most are the Kindle from Amazon, and the
 new Sony PRS-350 due out soon. They both have the ability to display
 PDF's but only the Sony will work with industry standard ePub format,
 avoiding the lock in to Amazon with the Kindle. This would be great,
 except I have tried to run Sony's library software and Adobe's digital
 editions, and failed as they are only supported on Windows and Mac.

For me the problem has been proprietary formats for ebook readers. I
have used fbreader on my main system to read ebooks downloaded
from Baen Books in mobi format but reading books on a computer doesn't
really appeal so an ebook reader would be an improvement.

I own several hundreds of Pbooks and have no intention of giving
up buying more but have realised that proper books have a disadvantage,
they have to be held with two hands and pages turned manually. 

This is not really an problem except when ones hands aren't fully
usable. I have been suffering from a condition known as trigger-finger
for some time and so far have gone through 3 minor opps to correct the
condition in both thumbs and a little finger plus a cortizone injection
in another finger. 

This condition has made it painful at times for me to handle books
and I have been warned that I could be getting arthritis in the joints
which could affect my ability to handle proper books even more.

So being able to use an ebook reader could be a solution, I have even
thought that adapting something like an anglepoise lamp to hold the
reader in position should be possible if things got really bad.

I haven't handled a kindle but waterstones stock the sony readers and I
have played with those briefly, enough to realise that the eink
displays are superior to my computer screens for the task they do.

With amazon bringing the price down and presumably making their full
range of books available in the UK, the kindle has to be considered as
an option. 

There are several other makes of readers, and I have seen one
alternative to the sony range in waterstones, but for now the sony
range is the best I have seen and if their prices drop as well then I
could be in the market for one.

Having a separate device for reading books fits my philosophy of
having devices that do specific jobs rather than multi-purpose devices
like these new-fangled phone thingies, (my basic mobile phone is still
switched off more than it is on) 
 
 If I can get over my dislike of being tied to Amazon, the Kindle would
 work great as I understand that it does not need any sort of library
 software on the computer to make purchases.

I had the feeling that you had to download from their shop direct into
the reader rather than via a PC but probably have this wrong.

 What I really want is for the book publishers to get over themselves
 and remove DRM as the music industry has.
 The really stupid thing is that I will probably not purchase much
 content anyhow. There is more than enough PDF's and other content out
 there that will fill my needs.

I doubt I'll be buying many ebooks either as there is enough free
material available and as I said I don't expect to stop buying proper
books any time soon. 
 
 After all that, the short question is, does anybody use an ereader and
 if so, who have you got on using it with Linux?

 P.S. I already know about Calibre :-)

I didn't so one of the first things I did after this thread started was
to 'aptitude install' it and add my small collection of ebooks to its
library. 

I also used the built in reader and found it OK. Since fbreader is
currently broken (two days ago anyway) in Debian Sid I needed a usable
reader anyway.

The fact that calibre can convert between formats is potentially very
useful. On principal I wouldn't buy any drm encumbered ebooks so am
not likely to have any problems using calibre.  

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[Hampshire] Linux meets at Nokia in Oct Dec

2010-09-13 Thread robert.beattie
Hello fellow LUGgers,

Head on over to the Surrey LUG site to check dates for meetings held at Nokia, 
Farnborough.

Best regards,
Bob.

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Re: [Hampshire] eReaders

2010-09-13 Thread Anton Piatek
 After all that, the short question is, does anybody use an ereader and
 if so, who have you got on using it with Linux?

 FBReader on my HTC android phone, like Jan.

If you read on android, try aldiko - its an ePub reader and has an
interface into a huge number of free and public domain books (most of
Guttenberg by the look of it) in ePub format

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Re: [Hampshire] eReaders

2010-09-13 Thread Philip Stubbs
On 12 September 2010 22:35, trotter m.nutt...@ukonline.co.uk wrote:
 Is there a feature in the 350 that you are looking for?
 Haven't heard about it and most features seem to be present in the 505
 including a SD card slot.

It has a touch screen. Unlike the older PRS-600, the new PRS-350 and
PRS-650 do not use an overlay, but inferred detectors around the
screen edge. That avoids the problems caused with extra layers over
the eInk display.

Other than that, it supports the more open ePub format.

I have read somewhere that Best-Buy are going to start seling the
Kindle. As they already sell the Sony, I will wait a bit and see if I
can see them side-by-side.

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Re: [Hampshire] eReaders

2010-09-13 Thread trotter

At 14:40 13/09/2010, you wrote:

On 12 September 2010 22:35, trotter m.nutt...@ukonline.co.uk wrote:
 Is there a feature in the 350 that you are looking for?
 Haven't heard about it and most features seem to be present in the 505
 including a SD card slot.

It has a touch screen. Unlike the older PRS-600, the new PRS-350 and
PRS-650 do not use an overlay, but inferred detectors around the
screen edge. That avoids the problems caused with extra layers over
the eInk display.



The current Sony touch screens apparently suffer from screen glare which
the 300 and 500 dont. Thats according to reviews on play.com and amazon.

A touch screen interface would be nice but not at the expense of readability.

Martin N

Running MorphOS v2.4 on Mac Mini, Moderator of 
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[Hampshire] Fwd: [ANNOUNCE] London Perl Workshop 2010

2010-09-13 Thread Dr A. J. Trickett
This may be of interest to Perl users, or even Python users wishing to upgrade 
;-)

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  It is my pleasure and joy to announce the London Perl Workshop for 2010.

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[Hampshire] Ubuntu startup

2010-09-13 Thread Leo
Does anybody know how to get ubuntu to show useful info when booting? 
The reason I ask is that it keeps hanging when mounting disks every few 
boots, but for all I know it could just be fscking them. Or failing, 
that is it possible to get it to keep old /var/log/boot files?


Thanks,
Leo

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Re: [Hampshire] Ubuntu startup

2010-09-13 Thread Jan Henkins
Hello Leo,

On Mon, September 13, 2010 22:35, Leo wrote:
 Does anybody know how to get ubuntu to show useful info when booting?

By pressing the Esc key when you see the first splash screen, it should
take you to the text-based bootup area where you can see everything
happening. It might not show you absolutely everything.

 The reason I ask is that it keeps hanging when mounting disks every few
 boots, but for all I know it could just be fscking them. Or failing,
 that is it possible to get it to keep old /var/log/boot files?

Not sure about this, because it is unknown in which part of the boot cycle
your machine falls over.

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Re: [Hampshire] Ubuntu startup

2010-09-13 Thread John Cooper

On 13/09/10 22:35, Leo wrote:

Does anybody know how to get ubuntu to show useful info when booting?
The reason I ask is that it keeps hanging when mounting disks every few
boots, but for all I know it could just be fscking them. Or failing,
that is it possible to get it to keep old /var/log/boot files?

Thanks,
Leo


I normally just hit the Esc key to see the messages.

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