Re: [Hampshire] Adobe Flash

2012-02-22 Thread hantslug
On Wednesday 22 February 2012 14:28:08 Daniel Llewellyn wrote:
> What is your take on this development? will anyone be converting to
> Chrome from another browser because of this? it is a good/bad thing?

I shan't convert.  I don't much like Chrome.  But I shall probably run it for 
news items etc. :-(  That is, if I can.  I am still running Lenny - it's a 
long story - and Google, bless it, has disabled the copy of Chrome I already 
had on the grounds that it is too old, and will not allow me to install 
anything on Lenny (too old).

What about Chromium?

Lisi

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[Hampshire] Adobe Flash

2012-02-22 Thread Daniel Llewellyn
I figure I'll be the first to mention it:
http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Chrome-only-future-for-Flash-on-Linux-1440104.html

What is your take on this development? will anyone be converting to
Chrome from another browser because of this? it is a good/bad thing?

My annoyance here is the same as my annoyance with Silverlight - video
sites (netflix et al) are finding more and more ways to prevent access
from our favourite OS because of the Movie/TV studio requirement for
DRM on all streams. With flash leaving the playing field, we're losing
the last remaining compatible solution that the studios may have
agreed to a video site using.

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Re: [Hampshire] IPv6 ADSL router recommendations

2012-02-22 Thread Wayne Lee
> Routerboards. Linitx.com sell them. Any alixboard running m0n0wall will do
> it too. Routerboard 750 under 40 quid.

Monowall works well with the HE tunnels too.



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Re: [Hampshire] IPv6 ADSL router recommendations

2012-02-22 Thread Ian
Routerboards. Linitx.com sell them. Any alixboard running m0n0wall will do it 
too. Routerboard 750 under 40 quid.

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Subject: [Hampshire] IPv6 ADSL router recommendations
Date: Tue, Feb 21, 2012 7:37 pm


Hello Folks

Has anyone actually got a (modestly priced) IPv6 ADSL router working 
(i.e. IP6 to the ISP, and IP6 on the LAN)?

I bought a Technicolor/Thompson TG582N on the basis that Andrews and 
Arnold are using it for IP6, but it seems that I didn't read the small 
print: it only works with specially upgraded firmware that is only 
available from A&A.  So that's going back to broadbandstuff.co.uk who 
advertised it as 'IPv6 ready'.

My ISP, Entanet, offers IPv6, and suggests some routers 
(http://noc.enta.net/ipv6-over-xdsl/) but they're all expensive Cisco ones.

The Billion 7800N apparently works but costs £120.  There are also some 
D-Link ones such as the DIR-815 at about £65 which ought to do the job.

Does anyone have any recommendations?

cheers

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Re: [Hampshire] IPv6 ADSL router recommendations

2012-02-22 Thread Wayne Lee
> Part of my motivation for doing this is to learn about IPv6 on the internet
> and on the LAN (including wifi) so that I can set it up for clients
> eventually.  So using a fairly standard commercially available router would
> be preferable.
>
>> Entanet support PPPoE connections.
>
>
> That's good to know.
>
>
> cheers
>
> Chris

You could also terminate a (free) v6 tunnel from Hurricane Electric on
a internal machine and use that to deal with v6 on the LAN.
That's the way I started playing with it.

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Re: [Hampshire] IPv6 ADSL router recommendations

2012-02-22 Thread Chris Dennis

On 22/02/12 11:55, Wayne Lee wrote:

On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 11:24 AM, Chris Dennis  wrote:

On 22/02/12 09:38, Bob Dunlop wrote:


Hi,

On Wed, Feb 22 at 09:12, Philip Stubbs wrote:



I don't know if it would work, but will OpenWRT or DD-WRT on a cheap
router support ipv6?

http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/IPv6



OpenWrt info is at http://wiki.openwrt.org/doc/howto/ipv6.overview btw.


Well I've got DD-WRT on a WNR3500L at home and finding IPv6 enabled
software images has proven problematic. �Despite being marketed as an
opensource router the 3500 requires too many binary blobs with poorly
defined interfaces.

DD-WRT's IPv6 support also feels patchy, OpenWrt's documentation looks
better but I've yet to try it. �There are OpenWrt images for the 3500
despite it being listed as unsupported but none of them have IPv6.

So I'm wondering about a Netgear WNDR3700 but need to find Atheros based
V2 hardware rather than the Broadcom based V3 which is another binary
blob nightmare apparently. �Don't you love manufacturate who change the
entire product chipset and don't change the product designation.



Those are the sorts of problems that I'm hoping to avoid.

I'll have to do some more research...


cheers

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If you have a spare machine which is used as a firewall you could put
the modem in bridge mode and use PPPoE on the Linux firewall.


Yes, that's a possibility.

Part of my motivation for doing this is to learn about IPv6 on the 
internet and on the LAN (including wifi) so that I can set it up for 
clients eventually.  So using a fairly standard commercially available 
router would be preferable.



Entanet support PPPoE connections.


That's good to know.

cheers

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Re: [Hampshire] IPv6 ADSL router recommendations

2012-02-22 Thread Wayne Lee
On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 11:24 AM, Chris Dennis  wrote:
> On 22/02/12 09:38, Bob Dunlop wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 22 at 09:12, Philip Stubbs wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> I don't know if it would work, but will OpenWRT or DD-WRT on a cheap
>>> router support ipv6?
>>>
>>> http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/IPv6
>>
>>
>> OpenWrt info is at http://wiki.openwrt.org/doc/howto/ipv6.overview btw.
>>
>>
>> Well I've got DD-WRT on a WNR3500L at home and finding IPv6 enabled
>> software images has proven problematic.  Despite being marketed as an
>> opensource router the 3500 requires too many binary blobs with poorly
>> defined interfaces.
>>
>> DD-WRT's IPv6 support also feels patchy, OpenWrt's documentation looks
>> better but I've yet to try it.  There are OpenWrt images for the 3500
>> despite it being listed as unsupported but none of them have IPv6.
>>
>> So I'm wondering about a Netgear WNDR3700 but need to find Atheros based
>> V2 hardware rather than the Broadcom based V3 which is another binary
>> blob nightmare apparently.  Don't you love manufacturate who change the
>> entire product chipset and don't change the product designation.
>
>
> Those are the sorts of problems that I'm hoping to avoid.
>
> I'll have to do some more research...
>
>
> cheers
>
> Chris
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> Fordingbridge, Hampshire, UK


If you have a spare machine which is used as a firewall you could put
the modem in bridge mode and use PPPoE on the Linux firewall.
Entanet support PPPoE connections.


Regards

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Re: [Hampshire] IPv6 ADSL router recommendations

2012-02-22 Thread Chris Dennis

On 22/02/12 09:38, Bob Dunlop wrote:

Hi,

On Wed, Feb 22 at 09:12, Philip Stubbs wrote:


I don't know if it would work, but will OpenWRT or DD-WRT on a cheap
router support ipv6?

http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/IPv6


OpenWrt info is at http://wiki.openwrt.org/doc/howto/ipv6.overview btw.


Well I've got DD-WRT on a WNR3500L at home and finding IPv6 enabled
software images has proven problematic.  Despite being marketed as an
opensource router the 3500 requires too many binary blobs with poorly
defined interfaces.

DD-WRT's IPv6 support also feels patchy, OpenWrt's documentation looks
better but I've yet to try it.  There are OpenWrt images for the 3500
despite it being listed as unsupported but none of them have IPv6.

So I'm wondering about a Netgear WNDR3700 but need to find Atheros based
V2 hardware rather than the Broadcom based V3 which is another binary
blob nightmare apparently.  Don't you love manufacturate who change the
entire product chipset and don't change the product designation.


Those are the sorts of problems that I'm hoping to avoid.

I'll have to do some more research...

cheers

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Re: [Hampshire] IPv6 ADSL router recommendations

2012-02-22 Thread Bob Dunlop
Hi,

On Wed, Feb 22 at 09:12, Philip Stubbs wrote:
> 
> I don't know if it would work, but will OpenWRT or DD-WRT on a cheap
> router support ipv6?
> 
> http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/IPv6

OpenWrt info is at http://wiki.openwrt.org/doc/howto/ipv6.overview btw.


Well I've got DD-WRT on a WNR3500L at home and finding IPv6 enabled
software images has proven problematic.  Despite being marketed as an
opensource router the 3500 requires too many binary blobs with poorly
defined interfaces.

DD-WRT's IPv6 support also feels patchy, OpenWrt's documentation looks
better but I've yet to try it.  There are OpenWrt images for the 3500
despite it being listed as unsupported but none of them have IPv6.

So I'm wondering about a Netgear WNDR3700 but need to find Atheros based
V2 hardware rather than the Broadcom based V3 which is another binary
blob nightmare apparently.  Don't you love manufacturate who change the
entire product chipset and don't change the product designation.


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Re: [Hampshire] IPv6 ADSL router recommendations

2012-02-22 Thread Chris Dennis

On 22/02/12 09:12, Philip Stubbs wrote:

On 21 February 2012 19:37, Chris Dennis  wrote:

Hello Folks

Has anyone actually got a (modestly priced) IPv6 ADSL router working (i.e.
IP6 to the ISP, and IP6 on the LAN)?



I don't know if it would work, but will OpenWRT or DD-WRT on a cheap
router support ipv6?

http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/IPv6


Yes, that would probably work, although I was hoping for an 
off-the-shelf solution.


And then there's the question of which: OpenWRT or DD-WRT.  Opinion on 
the web as to which is better or more up-to-date seems divided.


cheers

Chris

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Re: [Hampshire] IPv6 ADSL router recommendations

2012-02-22 Thread Philip Stubbs
On 21 February 2012 19:37, Chris Dennis  wrote:
> Hello Folks
>
> Has anyone actually got a (modestly priced) IPv6 ADSL router working (i.e.
> IP6 to the ISP, and IP6 on the LAN)?
>

I don't know if it would work, but will OpenWRT or DD-WRT on a cheap
router support ipv6?

http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/IPv6


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