Re: [Hampshire] How to get your foot in the door?
> Thanks for the replies, I use Red Hat primarily because I have been looking > at the RHCSA / RHCE materials and that is what I am comfortable using. I have > used Debian and Ubuntu Server alot aswell but for the time being Red Hat is > what I have stuck with. > > I'm not a programmer I don't have the mentality and currently I would say the > Linux side of things is more of a hobby / passion I work primarily supporting > and maintaining Windoze boxes. Although I am teaching myself BASH scripting > nothing to serious at the moment just building the foundation dabbling > customising the shell, writing rsync scripts Nothing to fancy just basic > level stuff. My lack of programming experience is holding me back in terms of > understanding stuff like variables, functions, loops so it was suggested that > I learnt Python to get a foundation? any of the core languages are good to learn programming concepts, I'd suggest if going down the sysadmin route, Perl should be near the top of you list. and you might want to explore javascript via node.js … theres a lot of emerging stuff based on javascript that might make it a super useful language to low well, but don't start with it. beyond the simple stuff its quite a bit different in how its applied vs other languages. for real programming tasks … good old c and c++ … if you can't solve a problem with c .. give up! … and if you working with linux you do need to know what this will do and why ./configure & make & make install :) > Is this a good choice or should I stick with BASH scripting. > No .. Scripting and programming are different … Programming allows to to built complex stuff using more concrete structures and designs that let you treat the resulting program like a black box, then use scripts to link progs and data etc together to do magic fyi … don't try to write programmes with scripts just because you can. Does not mean you should… IMHO its hard work! > The small business / charity side appeals to me, I work for Jamie's computers > I like the whole ethos of reuse and putting older hardware to good use. I > would love to one day run my own enterprise that specialises in providing > Open Source solutions to this sector. > ditto : I just think do charity work for free! or beer:) > As for areas of Internet myself I guess I enjoy the networking / > Administration side of things. I have a few goals which I want to delve into > further. > > Apache web server > Samba file server (setup D/C) > Rsync and scheduling backups cron. > Proxy server > FTP server > Administration / user management > Firewall setting up IP tables > SElinux configuration > Media Server setup > KVM virtualisation > Unattended installations via kickstart > > Those are the areas of interest for myself and areas I intend to work on. > Would be kool to meet some of you guys and learn from the masters :) > We prefer to be Dr's … Masters are Evil!! - c u at a meet. > On 19 Aug 2013, at 23:12, "Keith Edmunds" wrote: > >> On Mon, 19 Aug 2013 20:35:22 +0100, bluechr...@hotmail.co.uk said: >> >>> My interest is more in the way of providing Open Source solutions to >>> small business / Charity completely bypassing the Windows side from a >>> server perspective altogether. >> >> Why specifically small businesses and charities? >> >>> My distro of choice is Red Hat have been looking at the RHCSA materials >>> and I feel this is the path I wish to go down. >> >> Look at where you want to end up. Do you need RH qualifications to get >> there? Why is your choice of distro important? To whom is it important? >> >>> Sent from my iPhone >> >> Are you sure you want to be Linux through and through? >> >> Start with the end point. You originally asked, "How do you start a career >> in Linux?", but you haven't said what you want to do. Program? Support? >> Consult? Sell? Evangelise? Describe (at least to yourself) in as much >> detail as you can how you want it to be. Then you can work out how to get >> there. >> -- >> "You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone >> who will never be able to repay you." >> >> -- >> Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk >> Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire >> LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk >> -- > > -- > Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk > Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire > LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk > -- -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] How to get your foot in the door?
Thanks for the replies, I use Red Hat primarily because I have been looking at the RHCSA / RHCE materials and that is what I am comfortable using. I have used Debian and Ubuntu Server alot aswell but for the time being Red Hat is what I have stuck with. I'm not a programmer I don't have the mentality and currently I would say the Linux side of things is more of a hobby / passion I work primarily supporting and maintaining Windoze boxes. Although I am teaching myself BASH scripting nothing to serious at the moment just building the foundation dabbling customising the shell, writing rsync scripts Nothing to fancy just basic level stuff. My lack of programming experience is holding me back in terms of understanding stuff like variables, functions, loops so it was suggested that I learnt Python to get a foundation? Is this a good choice or should I stick with BASH scripting. The small business / charity side appeals to me, I work for Jamie's computers I like the whole ethos of reuse and putting older hardware to good use. I would love to one day run my own enterprise that specialises in providing Open Source solutions to this sector. As for areas of Internet myself I guess I enjoy the networking / Administration side of things. I have a few goals which I want to delve into further. Apache web server Samba file server (setup D/C) Rsync and scheduling backups cron. Proxy server FTP server Administration / user management Firewall setting up IP tables SElinux configuration Media Server setup KVM virtualisation Unattended installations via kickstart Those are the areas of interest for myself and areas I intend to work on. Would be kool to meet some of you guys and learn from the masters :) On 19 Aug 2013, at 23:12, "Keith Edmunds" wrote: > On Mon, 19 Aug 2013 20:35:22 +0100, bluechr...@hotmail.co.uk said: > >> My interest is more in the way of providing Open Source solutions to >> small business / Charity completely bypassing the Windows side from a >> server perspective altogether. > > Why specifically small businesses and charities? > >> My distro of choice is Red Hat have been looking at the RHCSA materials >> and I feel this is the path I wish to go down. > > Look at where you want to end up. Do you need RH qualifications to get > there? Why is your choice of distro important? To whom is it important? > >> Sent from my iPhone > > Are you sure you want to be Linux through and through? > > Start with the end point. You originally asked, "How do you start a career > in Linux?", but you haven't said what you want to do. Program? Support? > Consult? Sell? Evangelise? Describe (at least to yourself) in as much > detail as you can how you want it to be. Then you can work out how to get > there. > -- > "You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone > who will never be able to repay you." > > -- > Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk > Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire > LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk > -- -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Begging for old PCI graphics card with s-video output
yes - i have an ati - where do you want it sent. Joseph Bennie | Founder 07976 300036 | 01737 244209 | @Lincoreltd j...@lincore.com On 19 Aug 2013, at 23:25, "Dr A. J. Trickett" wrote: > Hi, > > I'm begging to see if anyone has a PCI bus (not PCIe) graphics card that has > a > s-video output as well as VGA that they've not yet thrown away. It's not > urgent and I could collect from a LUG meet this autumn but I have an oldish > PC > that I'd like to connect to an old CRT TV and a s-video connection is the > best > option if I could locate card for nothing (I'd cover postage). > > The current graphics chipset is a cheap on-board AGP AMD/ATI Mach64 based > card > which while not modern is fine on VGA but doesn't do s-video... > > -- > Adam Trickett > Overton, HANTS, UK > > "Norton Wipe Info uses hexadecimal values to wipe files. This > provides more security than wiping with decimal values." >-- from the manual of Norton Systemworks 2002, pg 160 > -- > Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk > Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire > LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk > -- -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] How to get your foot in the door?
> Hi thanks for the information. :) > I'm not much of a programmer although I have started teaching myself BASH > scripting and python trying to get to grips with programming concepts was > pointed in the direction of Python for its ease of use. > to be good with Linux/unix you need to think like a developer … its a power tool. .. people keep trying to dumb it down and suggest its a costumer OS (hi Ubuntu users!!) Which when done well ( hi Ubuntu users !!) is a good thing. but really its a server OS.. It wipes the floor with everything except better unix's. and in custom use cases a very good multifunction embedded OS. > My interest is more in the way of providing Open Source solutions to small > business / Charity completely bypassing the Windows side from a server > perspective altogether. > ...stick with something rock solid like Debian, unless you want to work for mid/enterprise companies that expect certifications. > My distro of choice is Red Hat have been looking at the RHCSA materials and I > feel this is the path I wish to go down. > .. go work for a small-mid size IT company who invest in this themselves. It will be more rewarding. the micro/small/charity route its a serious waste of time if your doing it for commercial ends. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
[Hampshire] Begging for old PCI graphics card with s-video output
Hi, I'm begging to see if anyone has a PCI bus (not PCIe) graphics card that has a s-video output as well as VGA that they've not yet thrown away. It's not urgent and I could collect from a LUG meet this autumn but I have an oldish PC that I'd like to connect to an old CRT TV and a s-video connection is the best option if I could locate card for nothing (I'd cover postage). The current graphics chipset is a cheap on-board AGP AMD/ATI Mach64 based card which while not modern is fine on VGA but doesn't do s-video... -- Adam Trickett Overton, HANTS, UK "Norton Wipe Info uses hexadecimal values to wipe files. This provides more security than wiping with decimal values." -- from the manual of Norton Systemworks 2002, pg 160 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] How to get your foot in the door?
On Mon, 19 Aug 2013 20:35:22 +0100, bluechr...@hotmail.co.uk said: > My interest is more in the way of providing Open Source solutions to > small business / Charity completely bypassing the Windows side from a > server perspective altogether. Why specifically small businesses and charities? > My distro of choice is Red Hat have been looking at the RHCSA materials > and I feel this is the path I wish to go down. Look at where you want to end up. Do you need RH qualifications to get there? Why is your choice of distro important? To whom is it important? > Sent from my iPhone Are you sure you want to be Linux through and through? Start with the end point. You originally asked, "How do you start a career in Linux?", but you haven't said what you want to do. Program? Support? Consult? Sell? Evangelise? Describe (at least to yourself) in as much detail as you can how you want it to be. Then you can work out how to get there. -- "You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you." -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] How to get your foot in the door?
Hi thanks for the information. I'm not much of a programmer although I have started teaching myself BASH scripting and python trying to get to grips with programming concepts was pointed in the direction of Python for its ease of use. My interest is more in the way of providing Open Source solutions to small business / Charity completely bypassing the Windows side from a server perspective altogether. My distro of choice is Red Hat have been looking at the RHCSA materials and I feel this is the path I wish to go down. Maybe I should come along to some meets and get hands on I've been a bit put off though as I'm no guru. Sent from my iPhone On 19 Aug 2013, at 16:55, "Joseph Bennie" wrote: > Hi Ally, > > The best thing to do is pick a project in the sector you want to work in and > work on some code… once your name is in the credits its a big selling point > on the CV… but don't do it for a one shot deal, do it because its what you > want to do. > > If however your just looking to use open source, there are plenty php, ruby > ad sysadmin roles out there on job board but they might not be specifically > open source … you will find that all software and tooling are like a knife, > fork spoon… you use the best for the job ad its about mowing how things work > at a higher level and them applying the right tools and technologies to solve > them. > > best of luck > J > > Joseph Bennie | Founder > 07976 300036 | 01737 244209 | @Lincoreltd > j...@lincore.com > > > > > > On 19 Aug 2013, at 16:02, Ally Biggs wrote: > >> How do you start a career in Linux? are there any volunteering opportunities >> out there? >> Or opportunities to shadow and learn? I'm passionate about Open Source Tech >> but just need guidance and the opportunity to shine. >> >> >> -- >> Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk >> Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire >> LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk >> -- > > -- > Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk > Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire > LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk > -- -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] How to get your foot in the door?
Hi Ally, The best thing to do is pick a project in the sector you want to work in and work on some code… once your name is in the credits its a big selling point on the CV… but don't do it for a one shot deal, do it because its what you want to do. If however your just looking to use open source, there are plenty php, ruby ad sysadmin roles out there on job board but they might not be specifically open source … you will find that all software and tooling are like a knife, fork spoon… you use the best for the job ad its about mowing how things work at a higher level and them applying the right tools and technologies to solve them. best of luck J Joseph Bennie | Founder 07976 300036 | 01737 244209 | @Lincoreltd j...@lincore.com On 19 Aug 2013, at 16:02, Ally Biggs wrote: > How do you start a career in Linux? are there any volunteering opportunities > out there? > Or opportunities to shadow and learn? I'm passionate about Open Source Tech > but just need guidance and the opportunity to shine. > > > -- > Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk > Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire > LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk > -- -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
[Hampshire] How to get your foot in the door?
How do you start a career in Linux? are there any volunteering opportunities out there? Or opportunities to shadow and learn? I'm passionate about Open Source Tech but just need guidance and the opportunity to shine. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
