Re: [Hampshire] How to get a laptop with Linux?
On 2016-11-04 12:24, Thomas Kluyver via Hampshire wrote: On Fri, Nov 4, 2016, at 09:03 AM, Bob Dunlop via Hampshire wrote: Avoid modern Lenovo [1]. Although they've reluctantly issued a BIOS fix it sounds like it a performance hit. Lenovo's Thinkpad line is still mostly pretty good with Linux, at least when I was looking last year. Those business-oriented systems seem to be developed separately to the consumer-grade ones which get in the news for the wrong reasons. The business lines are more expensive, but you do get a better built system. Is anyone interested in distilling the kind of info we're discussing into a nice 'how to buy a computer for Linux' website? Is there already such a site? I did one quick search and found posts like these: http://www.howtogeek.com/185286/how-to-buy-a-laptop-for-linux/ http://www.ebay.com/gds/Linux-Laptop-Buying-Guide-/1000177741943/g.html ...but no nice friendly overview site. Maybe this is something we could discuss/work on at a future PLUG meeting. Thomas One relatively inexpensive alternative is to use a Chromebook and install Crouton. Intel based Chrome devices have a wider support compared to ARM Chrome devices. Arch and Ubuntu -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Linux Answers
hants...@googlemail.com wrote: On Thursday 22 December 2011 23:11:04 Jim Kissel wrote: hants...@googlemail.com wrote: On Thursday 22 December 2011 21:28:15 Keith Edmunds wrote: Right or wrong, justified or not, that's reality. Speaking personally, that jars considerably less than modern teenager-speak for contact lenses. To me, a contact is either a person with whom I in contact, or a person with whom I wish to be in contact, or something that enables electrically charged wires to meet and communicate. To my granddaughter it is a miniature spectacle lens that you wear in your eye I've worn contacts since the late 70's. Maybe I'm younger in heart than my 63 years would indicate. ;-) Or maybe you are from the other side of the pond? ;-) Yes, I'm Yankee as well as a few oter things D-) -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Blu Ray and Linux
Thanks for the heads up on Blu Ray, a technology that I will let pass me by James Courtier-Dutton wrote: On 4 December 2011 21:24, James Courtier-Dutton james.dut...@gmail.com wrote: I now have a Blu Ray drive for my Linux machine. DumpHD does not work on any modern titles due to an out of date host private key. MakeMKV does seem to work, but it is a binary blob and not open source and you have to pay for it past 30 days trial. If anyone can point me to an up to date host private key, I would then be happier. I finally have a host private key that works. I am watching my first Blu-Ray on Linux now. ;-) The thing I find unfair with this copy protection on Blu-Rays is: 1) I purchase the Blu-Ray drive. 2) I purchase a Blu-Ray movie. It plays, but at any time I could put a new Blu-Ray disk in and it will render all my existing movies unplayable. I.e. Movies that played before, all stop working. How is that fair? And get this, the only way I get to watch my own movies again is if I either: 1) Obtain new firmware for the Blu-Ray drive. (Wastes about 30mins of my time, and only if the manufacturer bothers) 2) Purchase a new Blu-Ray drive. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk -- -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Linux Answers
hants...@googlemail.com wrote: On Thursday 22 December 2011 21:28:15 Keith Edmunds wrote: Right or wrong, justified or not, that's reality. Speaking personally, that jars considerably less than modern teenager-speak for contact lenses. To me, a contact is either a person with whom I in contact, or a person with whom I wish to be in contact, or something that enables electrically charged wires to meet and communicate. To my granddaughter it is a miniature spectacle lens that you wear in your eye I've worn contacts since the late 70's. Maybe I'm younger in heart than my 63 years would indicate. ;-) -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Basic Linux Training
Dr A. J. Trickett wrote: However I think Lisi's comments and others suggest it's a bit half-hearted yet. Apparently if you sign up for a Linux course I can get MS Office at a really good price.. I fail to understand why anyone would want the *latest* version of MS office even at a *good price*. I found the ribbon interface difficult to use and very difficult to locate any particular feature. No I don't own a copy, but have had the misfortune to try to use it on a friends computer. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] [OT] Blatant Self-publicising :)
Keith Edmunds wrote: Signing the OSA is meaningless: we're all bound by it, whether or not we've signed it. Whatever you do, don't wear a loud shirt in a built-up area. I did once, but I think I got away. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Printers
Samuel Penn wrote: On Friday 16 July 2010 10:19:11 James Courtier-Dutton wrote: Hi, I have a requirement for a Laser Duplex printer with Ethernet network interface. The last time I brought a printer was about 10 years ago. The previous one was a HP LaserJet 4L. Does anyone have any recommendations? I've got a Xerox Phaser 8560DN. It's both duplex and colour. Takes a while to warm up, but quality is good (and it was the cheapest colour duplex laser I could find when I got it a few years ago, but if you just want BW there will be cheaper alternatives). And yes, it does network (and works from CUPS). I confirm all the the above re the 8560DN. I does have one drawback that I haven't been able to find a solution to, that being, the colour is very muddy. Shifted towards the inside of the colour cube. I can't get bright reds or yellows. They are just dull, dull, dull and I can't find any discussion regarding this problem on the net. I guess I haven't stumbled across the correct magic phrase. YMMV -- Life is too short. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] [OT?] This is odd...
The reply from the line starting 501 looks like the reply one would expect from a web server when throwing something un-http at it. Vic wrote: Hi All. This might be OT for the list, but I know there are some decent network admins reading it... A customer of mine has a static IP address with a server on the back of it, running a few odds and ends. Nothing special - mail, web, news, ftp. He can't currently talk to his server - and nor can I (ssh is open to my address). Running nmap against his address currently[1] gives me a single port open - . So I connected to it... [...@goliath ~]$ telnet address Trying address... Connected to address. Escape character is '^]'. 501 Not Implemented Content-Type: text/html Connection: close Content-Length: 149 Server: FedoraCore/6 UPnP/1.0 miniupnpd/1.0 HTMLHEADTITLE501 Not Implemented/TITLE/HEADBODYH1Not Implemented/H1The HTTP Method is not implemented by this server./BODY/HTML Connection closed by foreign host. (I hit return twice at the point where there is a gap above). Now I'm only expecting one machine there to be running Linux at all - and it's not running FC6. There might be an embedded Linux somewhere - it's a Belkin router; I don't know what they run inside. I rang the ISP, who claimed to be certain that this customer was definitely connected on this IP address. Anyone know what's going on? Thanks. Vic. [1] nmap has given me several very different results over the course of the day. -- Life is too short. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] [OT?] This is odd...
It's not difficult to configure apache or for that matter most other web servers to run on any non-used port. The default for httpd is to run on port 80, or 443 for shttp requests. non-standard ports use to be quite common in the early days of the web. It would require some manual configuration to change which ever web server to run on on Fedora 6. Either that, or someone may have hacked the server or at sometime a hacked version of httpd was installed on it. ymmv Vic wrote: The reply from the line starting 501 looks like the reply one would expect from a web server when throwing something un-http at it. Yes - and trying GET / or similar gets a 404 response (although I always have to hit return twice). But it's a web-ish server running on port , and claiming to be on Fedora 6. That's the bit I don't understand... Vic. -- Life is too short. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Conky
Leo wrote: I've recently started using this nifty piece of software. However I cannot get Ubuntu to run it at logon. Most of the advice I've seen on the internet says to run it from a script after sleeping for a while. However even this doesn't work for me. I also can't find any references to conky in the log files. Can anyone suggest a way for me to debug this, or an alternative way of running it at logon? you might try running it from you .profile with a command line similar to: /path/to/nifty_piece_of_software 12 /tmp/mylogfile -- Life is too short. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Unpicking gps data
Edward Beckmann wrote: Hi I have no idea where to start, but I'd like to display all of the roads in the UK that are deristricted, but not motorways. The simple reason is that I am a motorcyclist, and am frustrated with picking nice bendy roads on a map to find they are all 30 or 40mph. There are a few 'best roads' sites, but they tend to be for head down, ass-in-the-air performance bikes that seem to like going at 140mph along straight roads. So, the idea is to suck the data out of a gps device (not that I have one), and then ask it stuff. I assume that gps data is a database with name, class, start point, end point, speed grading, speed limit etc. Can anyone help please (suggesting I get a push-bike and stop polluting the planet is not necessarily classed as help, in case you were tempted)? I can't help with the GPS data, but a fun ride can be found on the A4, the Old Bath road, west of Marlbrough. It's an old three lane, now marked as 2 lanes. Low traffic during the day. Hungerford to Marlbrough also can be fun, but not quite as quite or a sensuous a set of curves IMOSHO. YMMV -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] old gits/old school: was Recurrent Hardware Problem
Jacqui Caren-home wrote: I was in a discussion with someone on a spam list about the definition of old school and I suggested that anyone who remembers a time before SMTP was de-facto should not be called old school but old gits and yes that includes me :-) Does that make me a old-old git (used SNA in a time before the Internet and Unix) -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] old gits/old school: was Recurrent Hardware Problem
Chris. Aubrey-Smith wrote: A philosophical question: O.T. or not O.T? I've been amusing myself recently with an old machine on which I've installed Version 7 Unix, ported to the x386 architecture. (System III was the latest thing when I started, but there was still a lot of Version 7 around.) The question is, can this activity be considered an appropriate topic for discussion in a LUG forum, given that it's a direct ancestor of Linux and the code is now in the public domain? Chris. Not OT IMOSHO I cut my teath on V7 and SYSIII. Wonderful kernels. V7 64K and a about 80K for the 68000 SYSIII. Named Pipes with atomic I/O. Broken string libraries. People just starting to wake up to pointer != longs/ints. 17 competing versions of Unix. X/Open trying to standardize. RichardS FSF and GNU. No GUI's between you and the machine. It still leaves me wondering why we can't build a kernel that 1M Hell, I even had a BSDI 4.4 install (386) that booted of a floppy and installed on a 2G disk. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Instant poweroff
Keith Edmunds wrote: My Google-foo is clearly deficient. How can I power off a Linux system immediately, the equivalent to pulling the plug out of the wall? I don't need to terminate processes, umount filesystems, etc, I just want it to power off. Thanks for any ideas sudo sbin/halt # wmmv -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Americanisations (Was: Bad Karma)
Chris Aitken wrote: Sean, Whats with this my bad. We are NOT AMERICANS... I've been living in the USA for a year or so. This example is way down on the list of annoyingizations of the language :) The one that gets me is Herbs, pronounced Erbs, and yet the ability to pronounce the letter H as Haitch. As a Connecticut Yankee in King Arther's Court, well actually an ex, as I've just moved back to the USA, it's Hews-ton Texas, not Whos-ton -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Americanisations (Was: Bad Karma)
Sean Gibbins wrote: Chris Aitken wrote: Sean, Whats with this my bad. We are NOT AMERICANS... I've been living in the USA for a year or so. This example is way down on the list of annoyingizations of the language :) The one that gets me is Herbs, pronounced Erbs, and yet the ability to pronounce the letter H as Haitch. All Set. The use of 'z' instead of 's' - as in Americanization - and also 'zee' instead of 'zed' while we're at it! Being neither chalk nor cheese, I prefer the DMZee but also use XYZed -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Stand by to grind you teeth
What do you expect from Microsoft. Love and kisses? They are running shit scared. Fear and loathing stalk the corridors of Redmond and they don't have anything they can do other than attack. FUD is there only weapon. This is just a replay of the Best Buy playbook that we saw yesterday Roger Munford wrote: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/09/09/ms_linux_pitch/ -- Life is too short. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Pipe issues
Leo wrote: I've got a shell script that calls a program and pipes its output to grep, i.e. #!/bin/bash program | grep -v remaining\s*$ When I run the script this works fine (i.e. no lines output ending in remaining). However if I set the script to run using anacron then I always get an email with loads of lines with remaining on the end of them. I've tried loads of things to attempt to debug it, but to no avail. Can anyone help? set $PATH just after #!/bin/bash to what ever your local environment has it set to. YMMV -- Life is too short. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Google Chrome OS..?
Sean Gibbins wrote: John Cooper wrote: I don't think you are missing much. I'm not happy that the BBC didn't say it is based on Linux. M$ have killed Linux on netbooks so hopefully Google chrome OS will allow manufacturers to agree to try again. Did Microsoft kill it or did they give just people what they really wanted? Agreed, they effectively told people what they wanted by establishing a monopoly that meant they were pretty much the only game in town, and I don't doubt they sent out the boys to 'buy them out' [1] as soon as they spotted the thin end of a wedge appearing in their sales. Homer Simpsons' plight is not far divorced from reality IMOSHO. The heavies, are MS OEM Marketing and Sales. The didn't actually say, Nice little business you got here. Shame if something was to happen to it., but the DID imply that in their sales pitch to Netbook manufactures. I don't trust Google nor any other large organization, but Google is big enough, rich enough, and ugly enough to stand up to the Microsoft, and for that I am thankful. God bless Chrome OS and all who switch to her from MS. However, I seriously wonder though how many netbooks were returned because of that 'funny' version of Windows on them? Sean /[1] see Simpsons episode 'Das Bus': Homer incurs Bill Gates' wrath by starting a successful business in competition with Microsoft; Bill's notion of a 'buy out' is to send a couple of heavies around to smash the place up!/ -- Life is too short. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] A sad day...
Isaac Close wrote: --- On Mon, 1/6/09, Jim Kissel j...@osml.eu wrote: Isaac Close wrote: The very next thing i'm going to do is install linux. If Vodafone is messing with DNS to do the re-direct, switching OS's will not alter the result. Yes I know. I was thinking more along the lines of creating a tunnel to a remote location where access to my proxy and dns is availible. Thus all traffic will be encrypted going to and from a familiar location. Oh and i'll be monitoring several aspects of the connection, i expect it to be a fairly flakey service. Sounds like you have a good handle on what's needed for a work-around. If you find Voda service flaky, I can recommend 3. Been with them for about 14 months, and a 15GBP/month contract for 3Gigs. Good service if there is a signal. Their initial set-up is a bit flaky. -- Life is too short. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] A sad day...
Victor Churchill wrote: 2009/6/1 Jim Kissel j...@osml.eu Isaac Close wrote: I was thinking more along the lines of creating a tunnel to a remote location where access to my proxy and dns is availible. Thus all traffic will be encrypted going to and from a familiar location. Should be able to screen out some of the unwanted adbytes too that way. Oh and i'll be monitoring several aspects of the connection, i expect it to be a fairly flakey service. Sounds like you have a good handle on what's needed for a work-around. If you find Voda service flaky, I can recommend 3. Been with them for about 14 months, and a 15GBP/month contract for 3Gigs. Good service if there is a signal. Their initial set-up is a bit flaky. That's putting it very mildly... the 3connect gadget or whatever it is that does the Windows connection is ghastly (that's when my wife uses it on her I wouldn't know. Gave up that nasty habit a while back. The network manager on Xandros is easy, quick, and does what it says on the label. laptop, you understand). Ubuntu Network Manager seems to deal with it fairly OK in my (limited) experience. As for if there is signal... - on the train from Bmth to Clapham Junction I gave up trying to do any online work and played Sudoku instead. Seemed to be no signal more often than not, so to speak. I have the same experience Woking - Waterloo, but Reading-Paddington is ok. YMMV -- Life is too short. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] iplayer and BBC licence fees (again)
Stephen Rowles wrote: I have a tv set which is connected to a satellite dish and tuner and is capable of receiving only German tv. How does that fit into all this? Chris. I *think* that this still requires a license. In the UK you need a license to watch live TV, regardless of the source. I guess this would be similar to what SKY wanted to do, which was not include any BBC TV and hence allow it's subscribers not to pay a TV license fee. From the receipt for my license (Jan 2009) What is a TV License needed for? A. To use any **TV equipment** such as a TV set, digital box, video or DVD recorder, computer or mobile phone to watch or record TV programmes as they are being shown on television. It hasn't worked for SKY so I guess the same argument would be true for German satellite TV, it isn't quite the same but I'm sure the TV licensing people would say it was. -- Life is too short. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
[Hampshire] Centos Kernel question
Any offers on what the differences between el5 and el5PAE Centos kernels? sun1 rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1859484 Jun 11 2008 vmlinuz-2.6.18-92.el5 sun2 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1801908 Jun 11 2008 vmlinuz-2.6.18-92.el5PAE -- Life is too short. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Apache performance tuning.
David Ramsden wrote: Hi, I've recently been helping out with a server performance problem, for a club I'm a member of. The site runs a vBulletin forum (PHP+MySQL). The server also hosts a few other domains but these are personal blogging sites and don't receive too many hits. In a nutshell, I'm looking for hints, tips and experiences from people who've dealt with web servers that receive a high volume of hits. Unless you are hooked on some specific Apache feature, I would suggest you switch to lighttpd for performance. -- Life is too short. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
[Hampshire] Colour printing on Ubuntu 8.04
It's a bit behind the times, but colour printing via my Xerox 8550 Phaser was never a problem until I upgraded to 8.04. Now the colours are muddy Printing the Ubuntu logo gives: reds that are dark brown oranges that are brownish ornage yellows that are a dull goldish colour Checked the ppd files and re-installed and re-booted but still no luck. Even the self test print with does Grayscale + RGB and CMYK are shifted into the dull/muddy colour scale. suggestions? -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Long Life Netbook style device
Andy Random wrote: On Sun, 16 Nov 2008, Bob Dunlop wrote: I'll just add my response to that of another poster here, I have an Asus EEE 901 and the standard battery gives me 5 hours with WiFi enabled. I suspect the WiFi of being a considerable drain as the access point is old and the walls quite solid. I really wish you hadn't mentioned that! :) I've been resisting upgrading my 701, but I hadn't realised the battery life of the 901 is so significantly higher. Now I'm much more tempted... I didn't resits at all. Soon as I could order a 901 with Linux I did. Sold my 701 a few days later. The 901 battery life is so good, that I never need to bring along the charger. The other big plus, is I ditched my brief case, for a Case Logic bag for external hard drives. The 901 is a perfect fit + HSDPA modem and bits and pieces. A quarter the size of my brief case and and maybe 3 pounds all up weight. -- Life is too short. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Dial-up netbook?
Chris Dennis wrote: Hello Netbook Fans The early Asus eee PCs had a modem port, but by the time I tried to get hold of one for a client wanting a replacement for their Amstrad Emailer, the only ones I could find had the modem port blocked off or just absent. To the best of my knowledge, Asus eee PCs never shipped with a modem. I got one of the earliest 701s and it was blanked off. The H/W FAQ http://wiki.eeeuser.com/eee_hardware_faq suggests a USB modem. They are about 10 GBP from Amazon and other suppliers. -- People choose Microsoft Windows for their PC in the same manner that the citizens of Soviet Russia elected the General Secretary of the Communist Party during the cold war. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
