[Hampshire] Unpicking gps data

2010-03-16 Thread Edward Beckmann
Hi

I have no idea where to start, but I'd like to display all of the roads in
the UK that are deristricted, but not motorways. The simple reason is that I
am a motorcyclist, and am frustrated with picking nice bendy roads on a map
to find they are all 30 or 40mph. There are a few 'best roads' sites, but
they tend to be for head down, ass-in-the-air performance bikes that seem to
like going at 140mph along straight roads.

So, the idea is to suck the data out of a gps device (not that I have one),
and then ask it stuff. I assume that gps data is a database with name,
class, start point, end point, speed grading, speed limit etc. Can anyone
help please (suggesting I get a push-bike and stop polluting the planet is
not necessarily classed as help, in case you were tempted)?

Thanks

Ed
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Re: [Hampshire] Unpicking gps data

2010-03-16 Thread Jim Kissel
Edward Beckmann wrote:
 Hi

 I have no idea where to start, but I'd like to display all of the roads in
 the UK that are deristricted, but not motorways. The simple reason is that I
 am a motorcyclist, and am frustrated with picking nice bendy roads on a map
 to find they are all 30 or 40mph. There are a few 'best roads' sites, but
 they tend to be for head down, ass-in-the-air performance bikes that seem to
 like going at 140mph along straight roads.

 So, the idea is to suck the data out of a gps device (not that I have one),
 and then ask it stuff. I assume that gps data is a database with name,
 class, start point, end point, speed grading, speed limit etc. Can anyone
 help please (suggesting I get a push-bike and stop polluting the planet is
 not necessarily classed as help, in case you were tempted)?
   
I can't help with the  GPS data, but a fun ride can be found on the A4, 
the Old Bath road, west of Marlbrough.  It's an old three lane, now 
marked as 2 lanes.  Low traffic during the day.  Hungerford to 
Marlbrough also can be fun, but not quite as quite or a sensuous a set
 of curves IMOSHO.

YMMV

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Re: [Hampshire] Unpicking gps data

2010-03-16 Thread Philip Stubbs
On 16 March 2010 11:34, Edward Beckmann edward.beckm...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi
 I have no idea where to start, but I'd like to display all of the roads in
 the UK that are deristricted, but not motorways. The simple reason is that I
 am a motorcyclist, and am frustrated with picking nice bendy roads on a map
 to find they are all 30 or 40mph. There are a few 'best roads' sites, but
 they tend to be for head down, ass-in-the-air performance bikes that seem to
 like going at 140mph along straight roads.
 So, the idea is to suck the data out of a gps device (not that I have one),
 and then ask it stuff. I assume that gps data is a database with name,
 class, start point, end point, speed grading, speed limit etc. Can anyone
 help please (suggesting I get a push-bike and stop polluting the planet is
 not necessarily classed as help, in case you were tempted)?
 Thanks
 Ed

This sounds like an ideal problem for the http://openstreetmap.org
data. With a bit of work, a map could be created with the roads you
want highlighted. There are even sites that let you play with the map
style on-line, but you will have to search for them, as I don't have a
reference to hand.

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Re: [Hampshire] Unpicking gps data

2010-03-16 Thread Tim Brocklehurst

On Tue, March 16, 2010 11:34 am, Edward Beckmann wrote:

 So, the idea is to suck the data out of a gps device (not that I have
 one),
 and then ask it stuff. I assume that gps data is a database with name,
 class, start point, end point, speed grading, speed limit etc. Can anyone
 help please (suggesting I get a push-bike and stop polluting the planet is
 not necessarily classed as help, in case you were tempted)?

Ed,

OpenPilot will do bits of this for you. The steps go something like:

1) Obtain a hand-held GPS.
2) Ride the route to get a GPS track of where you've been.
3) Save it as a track file on the GPS.
4) Upload said file to Computer.
5) Use a tool that handles GPS data to load the track. and manipulate it
as you wish.

In step 5, the GPS data is usually stored as just a series of NMEA0183
(possibly proprietry) sentences. These are pretty easy to read, and
OpenPilot has code to do this for Magellan GPS tracks. Once you've read
the data you'll have a time and location. You can then plot this on a map,
reference it against OpenStreetmap etc. etc.

OpenPilot does a fair amount of GPS handling in the Map widget.

If you need any further help, don't hesitate to ask,

Tim B.
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Re: [Hampshire] Unpicking gps data

2010-03-16 Thread Russell Morris
A while ago I was creating a mapserver for a sister company, we shelved the
project but I recall GIS data that had what you need.  It's often freely
available and road data files tend to have speed limits and road
classifications.

While I don't remember exactly where I go the data I had from, but it looks
like there is free road data here:

http://data.geocomm.com/catalog/UK/group103.html

I don't know if that file contains road specs or limits, but it's definitely
out there.


On 16 March 2010 12:51, Tim Brocklehurst t...@engineering.selfip.orgwrote:


 On Tue, March 16, 2010 11:34 am, Edward Beckmann wrote:

  So, the idea is to suck the data out of a gps device (not that I have
  one),
  and then ask it stuff. I assume that gps data is a database with name,
  class, start point, end point, speed grading, speed limit etc. Can anyone
  help please (suggesting I get a push-bike and stop polluting the planet
 is
  not necessarily classed as help, in case you were tempted)?

 Ed,

 OpenPilot will do bits of this for you. The steps go something like:

 1) Obtain a hand-held GPS.
 2) Ride the route to get a GPS track of where you've been.
 3) Save it as a track file on the GPS.
 4) Upload said file to Computer.
 5) Use a tool that handles GPS data to load the track. and manipulate it
 as you wish.

 In step 5, the GPS data is usually stored as just a series of NMEA0183
 (possibly proprietry) sentences. These are pretty easy to read, and
 OpenPilot has code to do this for Magellan GPS tracks. Once you've read
 the data you'll have a time and location. You can then plot this on a map,
 reference it against OpenStreetmap etc. etc.

 OpenPilot does a fair amount of GPS handling in the Map widget.

 If you need any further help, don't hesitate to ask,

 Tim B.
 --
 OpenPilot - Open-source Marine Chart Plotter
 Lead Developer
 http://openpilot.sourceforge.net



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Re: [Hampshire] Unpicking gps data

2010-03-16 Thread dee
 Hi

 I have no idea where to start, but I'd like to display all of the roads in
 the UK that are deristricted, but not motorways. The simple reason is that
 I
 am a motorcyclist, and am frustrated with picking nice bendy roads on a
 map
 to find they are all 30 or 40mph. There are a few 'best roads' sites, but
 they tend to be for head down, ass-in-the-air performance bikes that seem
 to
 like going at 140mph along straight roads.

 So, the idea is to suck the data out of a gps device (not that I have
 one),
 and then ask it stuff. I assume that gps data is a database with name,
 class, start point, end point, speed grading, speed limit etc. Can anyone
 help please (suggesting I get a push-bike and stop polluting the planet is
 not necessarily classed as help, in case you were tempted)?

You seem to be confused :)

To clarify things, GPS is purely a system to work out your current location.
GPS navigation devices us a GPS to plot your location and route on its own
internal map data.
Note that this map data is normally in a proprietory format and VERY
expensive to licence to use.

As someone has already mentioned, there is the OpenStreetmap project to
recreate the map data with an open licence that will include the
information you want.
Once you've had a good look around the site, you can extract suitable data
using the OSMXAPI.

I hope this helps :)

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