[Hampshire] Which distro next?
Hi, My distro journey isn't going too well. I was happy with Kubuntu but ever since Feisty I'd been seeing more and more things that just "weren't right". The final straw was when I couldn't get Pulseaudio to work with KDE. I decided to give FC9 a try and that is great apart from NetworkManager/the kernel being broken (wireless can't connect to most WPA networks and now has a nasty resource leak since the latest update that keeps taking the machine down.) Mouseovers on MP3 files also cause xmms to run so short of resources that the machine drops audio. I'm not good enough to fix these problems so I'm thinking about another distro change. Things I'd like: * KDE (preferably 4) * Pulseaudio * NM and my Intel 4965 wifi working. * Easy support for LUKS encrypted drives. I'm going to be doing some Internet radio broadcasting (probably with IDJC) so I need it not to run out of puff on my machine (2.4 dual core 3MB cache 800 FSB, 4GB, nVidia Quadro FX 1600m graphics. Hardly a slouch) What should I try next please. I want something with good repos, that's well supported and that doesn't need hours of surgery just to get it working. My initial ideas are to try Kubuntu Intrepid, Debian (Etch or Lenny?), FC10 Beta (can't work much worse than FC9 on my machine), try Gentoo, Mandriva or maybe Mint. What do you think I should do? Thanks, Paul. Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Which distro next?
Hi Paul. Have you consider PCLinuxOS ? The 2007 version is rock solid with KDE, but there is now a 2009 version out, still in Beta but starting to look good. Texstar (who is the main person on the distro) came from Mandriva, so has that way of thinking, and also sways towards the Debian way of thinking, IE "It will be released when we're happy with it, if thats a month or 4 months then tough, thats the way its going to be." Phillip On Thu, 2008-10-30 at 12:55 +, Paul Stimpson wrote: > Hi, > > My distro journey isn't going too well. I was happy with Kubuntu but ever > since Feisty I'd been seeing more and more things that just "weren't right". > The final straw was when I couldn't get Pulseaudio to work with KDE. > > I decided to give FC9 a try and that is great apart from NetworkManager/the > kernel being broken (wireless can't connect to most WPA networks and now has > a nasty resource leak since the latest update that keeps taking the machine > down.) Mouseovers on MP3 files also cause xmms to run so short of resources > that the machine drops audio. > > I'm not good enough to fix these problems so I'm thinking about another > distro change. Things I'd like: > > * KDE (preferably 4) > * Pulseaudio > * NM and my Intel 4965 wifi working. > * Easy support for LUKS encrypted drives. > > I'm going to be doing some Internet radio broadcasting (probably with IDJC) > so I need it not to run out of puff on my machine (2.4 dual core 3MB cache > 800 FSB, 4GB, nVidia Quadro FX 1600m graphics. Hardly a slouch) > > What should I try next please. I want something with good repos, that's well > supported and that doesn't need hours of surgery just to get it working. > > My initial ideas are to try Kubuntu Intrepid, Debian (Etch or Lenny?), FC10 > Beta (can't work much worse than FC9 on my machine), try Gentoo, Mandriva or > maybe Mint. What do you think I should do? > > Thanks, > Paul. > > > Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device -- Phillip Chandler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mobile : 07948 342882 Voip : 01635 767075 This email and its attachments may be confidential and are intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any views or opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company the sender represents. If you are not the intended recipient of this email and its attachments, you must take no action based upon them, nor must you copy or show them to anyone. Please contact the sender if you believe you have received this email in error. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Which distro next?
Phillip Chandler wrote: > Hi Paul. > > Have you consider PCLinuxOS ? The 2007 version is rock solid with KDE, > but there is now a 2009 version out, still in Beta but starting to look > good. > > Texstar (who is the main person on the distro) came from Mandriva, so > has that way of thinking, and also sways towards the Debian way of > thinking, IE "It will be released when we're happy with it, if thats a > month or 4 months then tough, thats the way its going to be." > > Phillip > +1 for PCLOS, though I use the 2008 mini-me build. Very easy to use, great hardware support, easy wizard for installing ATI/nVidia video drivers, no problems with Wireless on my Thinkpad T60p. James -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Which distro next?
With the 2009 version, there is a very smart GUI for installing/uninstalling both ATI & Nvidea drivers. Takes the pain out of doing it any tother way - Original Message - From: "James Ashburner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Hampshire LUG Discussion List" Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 1:19 PM Subject: Re: [Hampshire] Which distro next? > Phillip Chandler wrote: > > Hi Paul. > > > > Have you consider PCLinuxOS ? The 2007 version is rock solid with KDE, > > but there is now a 2009 version out, still in Beta but starting to look > > good. > > > > Texstar (who is the main person on the distro) came from Mandriva, so > > has that way of thinking, and also sways towards the Debian way of > > thinking, IE "It will be released when we're happy with it, if thats a > > month or 4 months then tough, thats the way its going to be." > > > > Phillip > > > > +1 for PCLOS, though I use the 2008 mini-me build. Very easy to use, > great hardware support, easy wizard for installing ATI/nVidia video > drivers, no problems with Wireless on my Thinkpad T60p. > > James > > -- > Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk > Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire > LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk > -- -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Which distro next?
Hi, Thanks for the recommendation. I've kept away from PCLinuxOS as I always perceived it as trying to be Windows. Is this still the case? I like Linux. I don't want Windows. I just don't know enough to localise the FC9 wifi failure to the kernel, nm or the Intel driver or to fix it. Do you think PCLinuxOS is right for me? Thanks, Paul. Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Which distro next?
On Thursday 30 October 2008 14:11:30 Paul Stimpson wrote: > Hi, > > Thanks for the recommendation. I've kept away from PCLinuxOS as I always > perceived it as trying to be Windows. Is this still the case? > > I like Linux. I don't want Windows. I just don't know enough to localise > the FC9 wifi failure to the kernel, nm or the Intel driver or to fix it. > Do you think PCLinuxOS is right for me? > > Thanks, > Paul. > > > Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device Could try Mepis, currently version 7 with version 8 in betas likely to main stream soon. Version 7 is based on Debian etch (stable) and is rocked solid, Version 8 is be based on Debian Lenny (testing). Mepis has one of the best users forum (imo) and have there own community repository as well. Tim -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Which distro next?
Windows lookalike !!! Well KDE 3.x would fit the bill as being windows little brother in basic look menu wise(ish) (K)Ubuntu 8.10 and Fedora do seem to have a problem with wpa2 wireless. Debian Lenny needs 5 mins work to get wpa. As regards to whether pclos is right for you. Best bet is to download the live CD ISO and give it a spin. Installing my Belkin wireless driver was 4 clicks. On Thu, 2008-10-30 at 14:11 +, Paul Stimpson wrote: > Hi, > > Thanks for the recommendation. I've kept away from PCLinuxOS as I always > perceived it as trying to be Windows. Is this still the case? > > I like Linux. I don't want Windows. I just don't know enough to localise the > FC9 wifi failure to the kernel, nm or the Intel driver or to fix it. Do you > think PCLinuxOS is right for me? > > Thanks, > Paul. > > > Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device -- Phillip Chandler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mobile : 07948 342882 Voip : 01635 767075 This email and its attachments may be confidential and are intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any views or opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company the sender represents. If you are not the intended recipient of this email and its attachments, you must take no action based upon them, nor must you copy or show them to anyone. Please contact the sender if you believe you have received this email in error. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Which distro next?
On Thursday 30 October 2008 14:11:30 Paul Stimpson wrote: > Hi, > > Thanks for the recommendation. I've kept away from PCLinuxOS as I always > perceived it as trying to be Windows. Is this still the case? > > I like Linux. I don't want Windows. I just don't know enough to localise > the FC9 wifi failure to the kernel, nm or the Intel driver or to fix it. > Do you think PCLinuxOS is right for me? It is great, and got rid of that awful Doze-lookalike logo a long time ago. It still has help media that make it easier to switch from Windows, but that is where any connection ends. It is most definitely Linux. And packaging is apt based, which again for me is a strength. (Tho' the packages are .rpms.) I only didn't recommend it before the others because it doesn't fulfil one of your criteria. 2009 will still be using KDE 3.5.x, not 4, on the grounds that KDE 4 is not yet fully user ready. I regard this as a strength, but you may regard it as a weakness! Lisi -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Which distro next?
Lisi wrote: > On Thursday 30 October 2008 14:11:30 Paul Stimpson wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Thanks for the recommendation. I've kept away from PCLinuxOS as I always >> perceived it as trying to be Windows. Is this still the case? >> >> I like Linux. I don't want Windows. I just don't know enough to localise >> the FC9 wifi failure to the kernel, nm or the Intel driver or to fix it. >> Do you think PCLinuxOS is right for me? > > It is great, and got rid of that awful Doze-lookalike logo a long time ago. > It still has help media that make it easier to switch from Windows, but that > is where any connection ends. It is most definitely Linux. And packaging is > apt based, which again for me is a strength. (Tho' the packages are .rpms.) > > I only didn't recommend it before the others because it doesn't fulfil one of > your criteria. 2009 will still be using KDE 3.5.x, not 4, on the grounds > that KDE 4 is not yet fully user ready. I regard this as a strength, but you > may regard it as a weakness! > > Lisi > > It has been stated that KDE 4 will be an installable option in 2009, just not the default. James -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Which distro next?
Phillip Chandler said the following on 30/10/08 14:55: > > (K)Ubuntu 8.10 and Fedora do seem to have a problem with wpa2 wireless. > Debian Lenny needs 5 mins work to get wpa. > I've not had a problem with WPA under Ubuntu. 'sudo aptitude install wpasupplicant' and everything works fine with network-manager etc? - Charlie -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Which distro next?
Hi, I've not had any trouble with the wireless on Kubuntu either. My built-in wifi and both of my USB sticks work on every network I've pointed them at. With FC9 the internal wireless can't do WPA on most networks and both USB sticks cause a kernel opps when connected. Cheers, Paul. Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Which distro next?
I've not had any problem with wireless and ubuntu either, works perfectly on all my laptops and on all networks. Has anyone upgraded from Hardy to Intrepid yet? I'll be interested to know how it went. Ritchie Paul Stimpson wrote: > Hi, > > I've not had any trouble with the wireless on Kubuntu either. My built-in > wifi and both of my USB sticks work on every network I've pointed them at. > With FC9 the internal wireless can't do WPA on most networks and both USB > sticks cause a kernel opps when connected. > > Cheers, > Paul. > > > Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device > -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Which distro next?
> Has anyone upgraded from Hardy to Intrepid yet? I'll be interested to > know how it went. > I upgraded to the RC on my desktop/server a few days ago. I had some issues with network-manager due to a prior fix on /etc/network/interfaces but managed to isolate the problem eventually. There doesn't seem an awful lot of difference; a few gui changes and integration of pidgin into the 'user switch' ment (I'm not sure about this!!). AWN has gone sketchy again, things aren't compositing properly (white areas). Conky has decided it will only now display half the output of one of my scripts... Noticeable improvements certainly around Flash (fullscreen framerate is much improved, and I was having some serious "grey box" issues on firefox). I'm yet to play with the encrypted folders yet. I have a trip to the US in a week or so and I don't want to give them excuse to confiscate my laptop - so I shall await until my return! I'm just upgrading the laptop as we speak. Apparently I've got about 22 mins remaining on the install :) everything appears well so far. Charlie -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Which distro next?
On Thu, 2008-10-30 at 15:34 +, Charlie de Courcy wrote: > > Phillip Chandler said the following on 30/10/08 14:55: > > > > (K)Ubuntu 8.10 and Fedora do seem to have a problem with wpa2 wireless. > > Debian Lenny needs 5 mins work to get wpa. > > > I've not had a problem with WPA under Ubuntu. >'sudo aptitude install wpasupplicant' > and everything works fine with network-manager etc? > > - Charlie So what sort of hardware are you guys running ? Ive got a Dell Inspiron 1200, 512mb ram, Belkin F5D7010 Ver7000uk Wireless card, and seem to have problems with wpa2 encryption. Plus under Ubuntu 7.10 I install ndiswrapper and use the net8185 driver, and wpa2 works 101%. Anything from 8.04 onwards, even with wpasupplicant installed and writing the relavent files, wpa2 just doesnt want to play ball, except the latest Debian Lenny. Plus Debian now seems to use the rtl8185 driver and see's my card by default, same as the latest Ubuntu, openSuse, Fedora etc. Ive tried both nm and wicd, and only use wicd now. The only other distro that works out-of-the-box is Mandriva 2008 powerpack which connects with the net-applet. Im assuming that its all down to what hardware you have. In the sense that if the devs have the same hardware then the software / drivers should be 100% !!! Or am I going off the track big time ? -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Which distro next?
>> Has anyone upgraded from Hardy to Intrepid yet? I'll be interested to >> know how it went. >> >> > I upgraded to the RC on my desktop/server a few days ago. I had some > issues with network-manager due to a prior fix on > /etc/network/interfaces but managed to isolate the problem eventually. > > There doesn't seem an awful lot of difference; a few gui changes and > integration of pidgin into the 'user switch' ment (I'm not sure about > this!!). > AWN has gone sketchy again, things aren't compositing properly (white > areas). > Conky has decided it will only now display half the output of one of my > scripts... > > Noticeable improvements certainly around Flash (fullscreen framerate is > much improved, and I was having some serious "grey box" issues on firefox). > I'm yet to play with the encrypted folders yet. I have a trip to the US > in a week or so and I don't want to give them excuse to confiscate my > laptop - so I shall await until my return! > > I'm just upgrading the laptop as we speak. Apparently I've got about 22 > mins remaining on the install :) everything appears well so far. > > Charlie > > Well, I haven't heard any horror stories yet so I may just go for the upgrade and see what happens! Cheers Ritchie -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Which distro next?
At 13:19 30/10/2008, you wrote: >Phillip Chandler wrote: > > Hi Paul. > > > > Have you consider PCLinuxOS ? The 2007 version is rock solid with KDE, > > but there is now a 2009 version out, still in Beta but starting to look > > good. > > > > Texstar (who is the main person on the distro) came from Mandriva, so > > has that way of thinking, and also sways towards the Debian way of > > thinking, IE "It will be released when we're happy with it, if thats a > > month or 4 months then tough, thats the way its going to be." > > > > Phillip > > > >+1 for PCLOS, though I use the 2008 mini-me build. Very easy to use, >great hardware support, easy wizard for installing ATI/nVidia video >drivers, no problems with Wireless on my Thinkpad T60p. the minime link was down for me yesterday Does anyone else have a different a different sources as the ones i googled refered to pclinuxos website. Martin N -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Which distro next?
Hi, On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 12:55 PM, Paul Stimpson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > My distro journey isn't going too well. I was happy with Kubuntu but ever > since Feisty I'd been seeing more and more things that just "weren't right". > The final straw was when I couldn't get Pulseaudio to work with KDE. I'd spend my time trying to fix the bits that aren't right with Ubuntu. I use CentOS for pretty much everything, but I use Ubuntu on my laptop, and it's the best workstation distro I've ever seen. If there's a problem, I'd plug away at it, enlist help from the many community members and people on this list, and feed back the experience to other users. S. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Which distro next?
trotter wrote: > > > the minime link was down for me yesterday > > Does anyone else have a different a different sources as the ones i googled > refered to pclinuxos website. > > Martin N > http://dl.btjunkie.org/torrent/pclinuxos-minime-2008/50276487d2dfae54efa4f96749cee8cbd7a3ba1c934c/download.torrent or http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/texstar/pclinuxos/live-cd/english/preview/ With torrent probably being the fastest way to get hold of it :) James -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Which distro next?
At 16:33 30/10/2008, you wrote: >trotter wrote: > > > > > > > the minime link was down for me yesterday > > > > Does anyone else have a different a different sources as the > ones i googled > > refered to pclinuxos website. > > > > Martin N > > >http://dl.btjunkie.org/torrent/pclinuxos-minime-2008/50276487d2dfae54efa4f96749cee8cbd7a3ba1c934c/download.torrent > >or > >http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/texstar/pclinuxos/live-cd/english/preview/ > >With torrent probably being the fastest way to get hold of it :) Duh! Thanks, downloading torrent now - still think of torrents as illegal thanks to all the bad publicity. Martin N -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Which distro next?
Phillip Chandler said the following on 30/10/08 16:11: > On Thu, 2008-10-30 at 15:34 +, Charlie de Courcy wrote: > >> Phillip Chandler said the following on 30/10/08 14:55: >> >>> (K)Ubuntu 8.10 and Fedora do seem to have a problem with wpa2 wireless. >>> Debian Lenny needs 5 mins work to get wpa. >>> >>> >> I've not had a problem with WPA under Ubuntu. >>'sudo aptitude install wpasupplicant' >> and everything works fine with network-manager etc? >> >> - Charlie >> > > So what sort of hardware are you guys running ? Ive got a Dell Inspiron > 1200, 512mb ram, Belkin F5D7010 Ver7000uk Wireless card, and seem to > have problems with wpa2 encryption. > > Plus under Ubuntu 7.10 I install ndiswrapper and use the net8185 driver, > and wpa2 works 101%. > > > My desktop is a custom AMD64 3200+ 2GB ram, Nvidia & Marvel Gig-E, Broadcom BCM4306 Wireless and all works fine. Laptop is a Toshiba Tecra M5, Core Duo, Intel 82573L Gig-E, Intel 3945ABG wireless. I've just upgraded and nm-applet wasn't showing here also. I added the following to sources: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/network-manager/ubuntu intrepid main and changed /etc/network/interfaces to only have the following lines uncommented: auto lo iface lo inet loopback Now everything is working fine! Looks good - seems to all be running OK so far... There aren't any WPA points here - I'll check later and report if I have any problems at home with WPA2... -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Which distro next?
On Thursday 30 October 2008 15:19:16 James Ashburner wrote: > Lisi wrote: > > On Thursday 30 October 2008 14:11:30 Paul Stimpson wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> Thanks for the recommendation. I've kept away from PCLinuxOS as I always > >> perceived it as trying to be Windows. Is this still the case? > >> > >> I like Linux. I don't want Windows. I just don't know enough to localise > >> the FC9 wifi failure to the kernel, nm or the Intel driver or to fix it. > >> Do you think PCLinuxOS is right for me? > > > > It is great, and got rid of that awful Doze-lookalike logo a long time > > ago. It still has help media that make it easier to switch from Windows, > > but that is where any connection ends. It is most definitely Linux. And > > packaging is apt based, which again for me is a strength. (Tho' the > > packages are .rpms.) > > > > I only didn't recommend it before the others because it doesn't fulfil > > one of your criteria. 2009 will still be using KDE 3.5.x, not 4, on the > > grounds that KDE 4 is not yet fully user ready. I regard this as a > > strength, but you may regard it as a weakness! > > > > Lisi > > It has been stated that KDE 4 will be an installable option in 2009, > just not the default. Only when Tex is satisfied with its stability and functionality. And from what I have read about KDE4 that could be a long time coming. Lisi -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Which distro next?
On Thu, 2008-10-30 at 17:06 +, Charlie de Courcy wrote:
>
>
> Phillip Chandler said the following on 30/10/08 16:11:
> > On Thu, 2008-10-30 at 15:34 +, Charlie de Courcy wrote:
> >
> >> Phillip Chandler said the following on 30/10/08 14:55:
> >>
> >>> (K)Ubuntu 8.10 and Fedora do seem to have a problem with wpa2 wireless.
> >>> Debian Lenny needs 5 mins work to get wpa.
> >>>
> >>>
> >> I've not had a problem with WPA under Ubuntu.
> >>'sudo aptitude install wpasupplicant'
> >> and everything works fine with network-manager etc?
> >>
> >> - Charlie
> >>
> >
> > So what sort of hardware are you guys running ? Ive got a Dell Inspiron
> > 1200, 512mb ram, Belkin F5D7010 Ver7000uk Wireless card, and seem to
> > have problems with wpa2 encryption.
> >
> > Plus under Ubuntu 7.10 I install ndiswrapper and use the net8185 driver,
> > and wpa2 works 101%.
> >
> >
> >
>
> My desktop is a custom AMD64 3200+ 2GB ram, Nvidia & Marvel Gig-E,
> Broadcom BCM4306 Wireless and all works fine.
>
> Laptop is a Toshiba Tecra M5, Core Duo, Intel 82573L Gig-E, Intel
> 3945ABG wireless.
>
> I've just upgraded and nm-applet wasn't showing here also. I added the
> following to sources:
>
> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/network-manager/ubuntu intrepid main
>
>
> and changed /etc/network/interfaces to only have the following lines
> uncommented:
>
> auto lo
> iface lo inet loopback
>
> Now everything is working fine! Looks good - seems to all be running OK
> so far...
> There aren't any WPA points here - I'll check later and report if I have
> any problems at home with WPA2...
>
Under Debian I have to do the following from a terminal.
gedit /etc/default/ifplugd And add the following to the file:
INTERFACES="eth0"
HOTPLUG_INTERFACES="wlan0"
ARGS="-q -f -u0 -d10 -w -I"
SUSPEND_ACTION="stop"
gedit /etc/network/interfaces And add the following to the file:
# This file describes the network interfaces available on your system
# and how to activate them. For more information, see interfaces(5).
# The loopback network interface
auto lo
iface lo inet loopback
# The primary network interface
allow-hotplug eth0
iface eth0 inet dhcp
# Wireless... (this section may or may not already exist)
allow-hotplug wlan0
iface wlan0 inet dhcp
gedit /etc/default/wpasupplicant And add the following to the file:
ENABLED=1
OPTIONS="-w -i wlan0 -D hostap -c /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf"
Then in terminal enter wpa_passphrase
gedit /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf And replace everything with:
# WPA-PSK
network={
ssid="MY WIRELESS NAME"
proto=WPA
key_mgmt=WPA-PSK
pairwise=TKIP
psk="VERY LONG ENCRYPTION KEY GOES HERE"
priority=4
}
Then my wpa2 wireless works, but only after installing wicd as well. So
Im confused as to why Im having wpa problems with most other distros.
But then I dont do any of the above with Ubuntu 7.10 except install wicd
and my card inf file ?
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Re: [Hampshire] Which distro next?
Further to my email below, I have finished the upgrade to ubuntu 8.10 and all seems well. The upgrade itself was quick to download (at about 2356kbps) so no server problems at the moment. All my "weird" hardware components seem to work fine and boot time seems to be quicker. A few apps seem to open faster too which is always good especially as I have read reports that ubuntu is getting slower with each release since 7.10. One point worth noting is when it restarts your machine turn it off rather than let it just restart as a soft reset doesn't quite do the job. In a way it was quite boring as I was expecting a host of issues to sort out! Ritchie Ritchie wrote: > I've not had any problem with wireless and ubuntu either, works > perfectly on all my laptops and on all networks. > > Has anyone upgraded from Hardy to Intrepid yet? I'll be interested to > know how it went. > > Ritchie > > Paul Stimpson wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I've not had any trouble with the wireless on Kubuntu either. My built-in >> wifi and both of my USB sticks work on every network I've pointed them at. >> With FC9 the internal wireless can't do WPA on most networks and both USB >> sticks cause a kernel opps when connected. >> >> Cheers, >> Paul. >> >> >> Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device >> >> > > > -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Which distro next?
On Thu, 2008-10-30 at 14:11 +, Paul Stimpson wrote: > Hi, > > Thanks for the recommendation. I've kept away from PCLinuxOS as I always > perceived it as trying to be Windows. Is this still the case? > > I like Linux. I don't want Windows. I just don't know enough to localise the > FC9 wifi failure to the kernel, nm or the Intel driver or to fix it. Do you > think PCLinuxOS is right for me? Why not bring it to the next meeting? There's nothing "broken" in Fedora 9. Fedora 10 is out in about 3 weeks, I've been running the beta on my laptop for ages and even for a beta I've found it to be stable. Rob -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Which distro next?
Is it called "mini me" because it's 200+MB as opposed to 600+MB? If so, is that because it's like a Debian net install versionof PCLinuxOS? Regards Bryan the minime link was down for me yesterday -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Which distro next?
On Friday 31 October 2008 21:53:50 B STEVENS wrote: > If so, is that because it's like a Debian net install versionof PCLinuxOS? No, it's a deliberately cut-down and faster version. Depending on what you want to use it for, it could stand as is, as an OS and Desktop, plus some included software. This is not true of a Debian net install, which predicates that you will need to get at least some stuff off the internet in order to be operational. Even with the addition of a few extra programs (Thunderbird, Firefox and one or two others) my husband finds it much faster than the full distro. There is basically only one of anything. And that, on the whole, one of the lighter versions. I have swapped one or two of the lighter versions for something heavier weight but more operational. E.g. I uninstalled the very unimpressive CD/DVD burner that there was already there, and installed K3b. Much heavier, but it works so well that it was worth it. HTH Lisi -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Which distro next?
Thanks, Lisi, I shall look into this. Regards Bryan On Friday 31 October 2008 21:53:50 B STEVENS wrote: > If so, is that because it's like a Debian net install versionof PCLinuxOS? No, it's a deliberately cut-down and faster version. Depending on what you want to use it for, it could stand as is, as an OS and Desktop, plus some included software. This is not true of a Debian net install, which predicates that you will need to get at least some stuff off the internet in order to be operational. Even with the addition of a few extra programs (Thunderbird, Firefox and one or two others) my husband finds it much faster than the full distro. There is basically only one of anything. And that, on the whole, one of the lighter versions. I have swapped one or two of the lighter versions for something heavier weight but more operational. E.g. I uninstalled the very unimpressive CD/DVD burner that there was already there, and installed K3b. Much heavier, but it works so well that it was worth it. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
