Re: [Hampshire] [OT] Strange Shell Prompt.

2011-07-06 Thread Peter Andrijeczko
Mike

For any network service, you probably should make sure that the machine name
can be resolved to an IP address, and an IP address back to a name as the
reverse lookup is frequently used to detect IP spoofing.

So, for example, if client PC A on 192.168.1.1 is connecting to the server
PC B on 192.168.1.2 for a service (SAMBA share, Telnet, SSH, etc.) then you
should make sure that B can resolve A's IP address to a name somehow or
other. DNS is always the best way but reverse DNS lookups don't always get
set up correctly, in which case you can put an entry for PC A in the
/etc/hosts file of PC B.

Since it's easy to do, it might be worth doing it as a quick test for your
problem - but the connection delay can be caused by reverse DNS lookups
failing and timing out after 30 seconds or so.

It is important to get name resolution working correctly, even on an
isolated LAN, and even if it means just using manually edited hosts tables.

I hope this helps.

Peter

On 5 July 2011 17:30, Mike Burrows testerm...@knology.net wrote:

 **
 On 7/5/11 9:42 AM, Benjie Gillam wrote:

 My guess is that his iPad used your IP address beforehand and requested
 'johnrs-ipad' be it's hostname during the DHCP request a while back. When
 your MacBook did a DHCP request, the server recycled the old iPad record
 without properly cleaning it first.

  Benjie.

 On 5 July 2011 15:28, Mike Burrows testerm...@knology.net wrote:

 Hello folks.
 I am connecting to the LAN at work from my macbook. When I open a terminal
 i get this message:

 Last login: Tue Jul  5 09:19:23 on ttys000
 johnrs-ipad:~ testermike$

 We do have a John R at work and he does have an ipad. However I can't
 understand why its reporting my macbook as his ipad.


 Yes that makes sense. What has peeked my interest is that clients, can
 connect to a 'network drive' for the PCs or 'server' for the macs but it
 takes a while before the connections are established. Then if you navigate
 away from the share and then go back to it, say in windows explorer, it
 takes even longer to establish the connection again and sometimes wont at
 all.

 could it be that this dns oddity is causing the domain controller to lose
 track of its clients?

 Cheers
 Mike

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Re: [Hampshire] [OT] Strange Shell Prompt.

2011-07-06 Thread Peter Andrijeczko
Mike

To give you another example, I use Gentoo Linux on a netbook that uses
Network Manager to start the wireless card on bootup. On some wireless
networks, the DHCP server also sends a hostname which, in my case, would
actually stop Xorg and Gnome from running, simply because the new hostname
could not resolve internally to an IP address.

The solution was to change a DHCP client configuration to ignore any
hostnames given by the DHCP server, and now it always works.

It's very important to get DHCP and name resolution working in sync.

Peter

On 6 July 2011 12:18, Peter Andrijeczko peter.andrijec...@gmail.com wrote:

 Mike

 For any network service, you probably should make sure that the machine
 name can be resolved to an IP address, and an IP address back to a name as
 the reverse lookup is frequently used to detect IP spoofing.

 So, for example, if client PC A on 192.168.1.1 is connecting to the server
 PC B on 192.168.1.2 for a service (SAMBA share, Telnet, SSH, etc.) then you
 should make sure that B can resolve A's IP address to a name somehow or
 other. DNS is always the best way but reverse DNS lookups don't always get
 set up correctly, in which case you can put an entry for PC A in the
 /etc/hosts file of PC B.

 Since it's easy to do, it might be worth doing it as a quick test for your
 problem - but the connection delay can be caused by reverse DNS lookups
 failing and timing out after 30 seconds or so.

 It is important to get name resolution working correctly, even on an
 isolated LAN, and even if it means just using manually edited hosts tables.

 I hope this helps.

 Peter

 On 5 July 2011 17:30, Mike Burrows testerm...@knology.net wrote:

 **
 On 7/5/11 9:42 AM, Benjie Gillam wrote:

 My guess is that his iPad used your IP address beforehand and requested
 'johnrs-ipad' be it's hostname during the DHCP request a while back. When
 your MacBook did a DHCP request, the server recycled the old iPad record
 without properly cleaning it first.

  Benjie.

 On 5 July 2011 15:28, Mike Burrows testerm...@knology.net wrote:

 Hello folks.
 I am connecting to the LAN at work from my macbook. When I open a
 terminal i get this message:

 Last login: Tue Jul  5 09:19:23 on ttys000
 johnrs-ipad:~ testermike$

 We do have a John R at work and he does have an ipad. However I can't
 understand why its reporting my macbook as his ipad.


 Yes that makes sense. What has peeked my interest is that clients, can
 connect to a 'network drive' for the PCs or 'server' for the macs but it
 takes a while before the connections are established. Then if you navigate
 away from the share and then go back to it, say in windows explorer, it
 takes even longer to establish the connection again and sometimes wont at
 all.

 could it be that this dns oddity is causing the domain controller to lose
 track of its clients?

 Cheers
 Mike

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Re: [Hampshire] [OT] Strange Shell Prompt.

2011-07-05 Thread Benjie Gillam
My guess is that his iPad used your IP address beforehand and requested
'johnrs-ipad' be it's hostname during the DHCP request a while back. When
your MacBook did a DHCP request, the server recycled the old iPad record
without properly cleaning it first.

Benjie.

On 5 July 2011 15:28, Mike Burrows testerm...@knology.net wrote:

 Hello folks.
 I am connecting to the LAN at work from my macbook. When I open a terminal
 i get this message:

 Last login: Tue Jul  5 09:19:23 on ttys000
 johnrs-ipad:~ testermike$

 We do have a John R at work and he does have an ipad. However I can't
 understand why its reporting my macbook as his ipad.

 Thoughts?

 TIA
 Mike

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Re: [Hampshire] [OT] Strange Shell Prompt.

2011-07-05 Thread Mike Burrows

On 7/5/11 9:42 AM, Benjie Gillam wrote:
My guess is that his iPad used your IP address beforehand and 
requested 'johnrs-ipad' be it's hostname during the DHCP request a 
while back. When your MacBook did a DHCP request, the server recycled 
the old iPad record without properly cleaning it first.


Benjie.

On 5 July 2011 15:28, Mike Burrows testerm...@knology.net 
mailto:testerm...@knology.net wrote:


Hello folks.
I am connecting to the LAN at work from my macbook. When I open a
terminal i get this message:

Last login: Tue Jul  5 09:19:23 on ttys000
johnrs-ipad:~ testermike$

We do have a John R at work and he does have an ipad. However I
can't understand why its reporting my macbook as his ipad.



Yes that makes sense. What has peeked my interest is that clients, can 
connect to a 'network drive' for the PCs or 'server' for the macs but it 
takes a while before the connections are established. Then if you 
navigate away from the share and then go back to it, say in windows 
explorer, it takes even longer to establish the connection again and 
sometimes wont at all.


could it be that this dns oddity is causing the domain controller to 
lose track of its clients?


Cheers
Mike
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