Re: [Hampshire] Email return-to-sender - who has dropped what where?

2009-11-03 Thread Victor Churchill
2009/11/3 Simon Huggins :
>> That line "for name=data.h-ems.com.h-ems.com type=A: Host not found"
>> looks to me almost like a blatant typo/clerical error in somebody's
>> setup.
>
> Yes.  Looks like the classic missing . in a zonefile:
>
> The MX for h-ems.com is:
> [hug...@the ~]$ dig -t MX h-ems.com +short
> 10 data.h-ems.com.h-ems.com.
>
> Yet:
> [hug...@the ~]$ dig -t any data.h-ems.com.h-ems.com +short
> [hug...@the ~]$ dig -t any data.h-ems.com +short
> 213.232.95.114
>
> So they probably meant to set their MX to data.h-ems.com.
>

Thank you Simon, that seems to confirm the suspicions I had. Strange,
because the recipient seems to think the destination address is fine
("from their end")! Maybe it works from within their internal network
but not from outside.

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Re: [Hampshire] Email return-to-sender - who has dropped what where?

2009-11-03 Thread Simon Huggins
On Tue, Nov 03, 2009 at 10:12:30AM +, Victor Churchill wrote:
> The script wants to send the message to b...@hughes-energy.com (Names
> left of the '@' changed. I have left the domain name unsanitized)
> The failure msg looks like this:

> : Host or domain name not found. Name service error for
> name=data.h-ems.com.h-ems.com type=A: Host not found

> That line "for name=data.h-ems.com.h-ems.com type=A: Host not found"
> looks to me almost like a blatant typo/clerical error in somebody's
> setup.

Yes.  Looks like the classic missing . in a zonefile:

The MX for h-ems.com is:
[hug...@the ~]$ dig -t MX h-ems.com +short
10 data.h-ems.com.h-ems.com.

Yet:
[hug...@the ~]$ dig -t any data.h-ems.com.h-ems.com +short
[hug...@the ~]$ dig -t any data.h-ems.com +short
213.232.95.114

So they probably meant to set their MX to data.h-ems.com.

> Looks to me like b...@hughes-energy.com is
> translated/resolved/forwarded (never quite sure of the terminology) to
> bo...@h-ems.com,

That seems likely.

> but then whilst it is trying to resolve bo...@h-ems.com,
> gateway1.messagingengine.com. finds that data.h-ems.com.h-ems.com does
> not exist.

> I am not sure how/why bo...@fastmail.co.uk comes in to it. I'd have
> though the whole thing would have failed before it got as far as him.

> Can somebody indicate from this information, what sequence of
> processes going on? I'd actually find it quite useful to get more of
> an idea of what is happening.

I don't think from what you have that you can assume anything about the
fastmail address.

However it looks like b...@hughes-energy.com is forwarding to
bo...@h-ems.com and that mail to h-ems.com is broken because of the
broken MX record.  Hence the bounce you see.

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