Re: Could we reduce spam in the list?

[Kobus Bensch]

Yeah

On 23/11/2015 21:20, Willy Tarreau wrote:

On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 03:20:06PM +0100, Vincent Gallissot wrote:

This is obviously a spam and Barracuda let it go.
Don't you use other headers to help yourself detect spams ?
Cause this is really annoying on this mailing list.

What is even more annoying is to find valid e-mails being tagged
as spam. And since it already happened a few times, I even thought
about removing the anti-spam. If those boring "stop the spam"
subjects come up again, this will make me think even more about it.

It's amazing how much the people who complain the most about spams
are the ones contributing the least on the list. People who seek
help do not complain and those who help don't either. People who
subscribe here do it on purpose, it's not mandatory to participate,
so I don't see why people complain.

Willy




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Re: Could we reduce spam in the list?

[Thrawn]

@PiBa-NL If you're interested, I've developed a NoScript surrogate script for 
cleaning up the online mail archives.


If you don't use NoScript, you could probably port it to Greasemonkey or 
similar.

https://forums.informaction.com/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=20652

Re: Could we reduce spam in the list?

[Willy Tarreau]

On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 03:20:06PM +0100, Vincent Gallissot wrote:
> This is obviously a spam and Barracuda let it go.
> Don't you use other headers to help yourself detect spams ?
> Cause this is really annoying on this mailing list.

What is even more annoying is to find valid e-mails being tagged
as spam. And since it already happened a few times, I even thought
about removing the anti-spam. If those boring "stop the spam"
subjects come up again, this will make me think even more about it.

It's amazing how much the people who complain the most about spams
are the ones contributing the least on the list. People who seek
help do not complain and those who help don't either. People who
subscribe here do it on purpose, it's not mandatory to participate,
so I don't see why people complain.

Willy

Re: Could we reduce spam in the list?

[PiBa-NL]

You might get no or little spam in your mailbox, but have you ever tried 
finding something in list archives? Half of the topics aren't related to 
haproxy.. Which does make the archives less usable.. And yes gmail does 
a nice job at filtering, but also passes the occasional spam mail, not 
that much to really worry about but just saying spamfilters cant catch 
everything.. I dont think i can match the amount of time gmail spend to 
configure theirs spam filters to do a better job in-house..


Take a look at the archives, they are messy.., should the archives 
filter mails they think are spam?:

http://marc.info/?l=haproxy&r=1&b=201511&w=2
http://blog.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.haproxy?set_blog_all=yes

Yes i have seen & read several of the the previous spam discussions. And 
contributions by non-list-members are of-course welcome.  Not sure if 
they should perhaps get some 'confirm your contribution' link by email 
they should click before the mail gets processed on the list? Though 
that would require quite a bit of effort to handle a problem most people 
on the list dont have a big problem with. And who is going to maintain 
the infrastructure to make such a thing possible.?.


I agree a note about the spam policy would be nice to have near where 
the subscription address is written. It might reduce the 'stop spam' 
discussions..


Regards,
PiBa-NL

Op 23-11-2015 om 16:06 schreef Kobus Bensch:
Again, I get no SPAM on this list. As a user of HAProxy, this list is 
about HAProxy. The few people that do complain about SPAM, need to 
sort it in-house. As mentioned, this subject has been covered in depth 
and please no more. Read previous posts.


On 23/11/2015 14:20, Vincent Gallissot wrote:

Barracuda headers are not really usefull :

Spam received on this mailing list on Fri, 20 Nov 2015 15:41:02 +0100
Subject "Comparer les offres d'assurances pour votre animal de compagnie"

Here are Barracuda headers :
X-Barracuda-Spam-Score: 0.00
X-Barracuda-Spam-Status: No, SCORE=0.00 using global scores of
TAG_LEVEL=3.5 QUARANTINE_LEVEL=1000.0 KILL_LEVEL=1000.0
tests=DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED, HTML_MESSAGE

This is obviously a spam and Barracuda let it go.
Don't you use other headers to help yourself detect spams ?
Cause this is really annoying on this mailing list.

Regards,
Vincent

On 11/23/2015 11:00 AM, William Lewis wrote:

Perhaps something about the spam philosophy and reasoning on this list
could be included on the website and/or initial subscription email. It
is a subject that comes up again and again.

Sent from my iPhone


On 23 Nov 2015, at 09:53, Jarno Huuskonen  wrote:

Hi,


On Mon, Nov 23, Alexandros Afentoulis wrote:
Hello there,

dear list administrators could you possibly do something about spam in
the list? Perhaps allow only subscribers to send or something similar?

I'm having hard time coping with the amount of spam between the
legitimate messages of the list. I think reducing spam would profit us all.

This has been covered before. Just search list archives.

What you can do is filter messages based on
X-Barracuda-Spam-Score:
X-Barracuda-Spam-Status:
headers. This should keep most of the spam out of your inbox.

-Jarno

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Re: Could we reduce spam in the list?

[Kobus Bensch]

Again, I get no SPAM on this list. As a user of HAProxy, this list is 
about HAProxy. The few people that do complain about SPAM, need to sort 
it in-house. As mentioned, this subject has been covered in depth and 
please no more. Read previous posts.


On 23/11/2015 14:20, Vincent Gallissot wrote:

Barracuda headers are not really usefull :

Spam received on this mailing list on Fri, 20 Nov 2015 15:41:02 +0100
Subject "Comparer les offres d'assurances pour votre animal de compagnie"

Here are Barracuda headers :
X-Barracuda-Spam-Score: 0.00
X-Barracuda-Spam-Status: No, SCORE=0.00 using global scores of
TAG_LEVEL=3.5 QUARANTINE_LEVEL=1000.0 KILL_LEVEL=1000.0
tests=DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED, HTML_MESSAGE

This is obviously a spam and Barracuda let it go.
Don't you use other headers to help yourself detect spams ?
Cause this is really annoying on this mailing list.

Regards,
Vincent

On 11/23/2015 11:00 AM, William Lewis wrote:

Perhaps something about the spam philosophy and reasoning on this list
could be included on the website and/or initial subscription email. It
is a subject that comes up again and again.

Sent from my iPhone


On 23 Nov 2015, at 09:53, Jarno Huuskonen  wrote:

Hi,


On Mon, Nov 23, Alexandros Afentoulis wrote:
Hello there,

dear list administrators could you possibly do something about spam in
the list? Perhaps allow only subscribers to send or something similar?

I'm having hard time coping with the amount of spam between the
legitimate messages of the list. I think reducing spam would profit us all.

This has been covered before. Just search list archives.

What you can do is filter messages based on
X-Barracuda-Spam-Score:
X-Barracuda-Spam-Status:
headers. This should keep most of the spam out of your inbox.

-Jarno

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Address:  22 & 24 | Frederick Sanger Road | Guildford | Surrey | GU2 7YD
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Tel:  0207 871 3890
Email: kobus.ben...@trustpayglobal.com 



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Re: Could we reduce spam in the list?

[Kobus Bensch]

Have you looked at the previous discussions?

On 23/11/2015 10:00, William Lewis wrote:

Perhaps something about the spam philosophy and reasoning on this list
could be included on the website and/or initial subscription email. It
is a subject that comes up again and again.

Sent from my iPhone


On 23 Nov 2015, at 09:53, Jarno Huuskonen  wrote:

Hi,


On Mon, Nov 23, Alexandros Afentoulis wrote:
Hello there,

dear list administrators could you possibly do something about spam in
the list? Perhaps allow only subscribers to send or something similar?

I'm having hard time coping with the amount of spam between the
legitimate messages of the list. I think reducing spam would profit us all.

This has been covered before. Just search list archives.

What you can do is filter messages based on
X-Barracuda-Spam-Score:
X-Barracuda-Spam-Status:
headers. This should keep most of the spam out of your inbox.

-Jarno

--
Jarno Huuskonen



--
Kobus Bensch Trustpay Global LTD email signature Kobus Bensch
Senior Systems Administrator
Address:  22 & 24 | Frederick Sanger Road | Guildford | Surrey | GU2 7YD
DDI:  0207 871 3958
Tel:  0207 871 3890
Email: kobus.ben...@trustpayglobal.com 



--


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regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority registration number 900043. 
Company No 07427913 Registered in England and Wales with registered address 
130 Wood Street, London, EC2V 6DL, United Kingdom.


For further details please visit our website at www.trustpayglobal.com.

The information in this email and any attachments are confidential and 
remain the property of Trustpay Global Ltd unless agreed by contract. It is 
intended solely for the person to whom or the entity to which it is 
addressed. If you are not the intended recipient you may not use, disclose, 
copy, distribute, print or rely on the content of this email or its 
attachments. If this email has been received by you in error please advise 
the sender and delete the email from your system. Trustpay Global Ltd does 
not accept any liability for any personal view expressed in this message.

Re: Could we reduce spam in the list?

[Vincent Gallissot]

Barracuda headers are not really usefull :

Spam received on this mailing list on Fri, 20 Nov 2015 15:41:02 +0100
Subject "Comparer les offres d'assurances pour votre animal de compagnie"

Here are Barracuda headers :
X-Barracuda-Spam-Score: 0.00
X-Barracuda-Spam-Status: No, SCORE=0.00 using global scores of
TAG_LEVEL=3.5 QUARANTINE_LEVEL=1000.0 KILL_LEVEL=1000.0
tests=DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED, HTML_MESSAGE

This is obviously a spam and Barracuda let it go.
Don't you use other headers to help yourself detect spams ?
Cause this is really annoying on this mailing list.

Regards,
Vincent

On 11/23/2015 11:00 AM, William Lewis wrote:
> Perhaps something about the spam philosophy and reasoning on this list
> could be included on the website and/or initial subscription email. It
> is a subject that comes up again and again.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 23 Nov 2015, at 09:53, Jarno Huuskonen  wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 23, Alexandros Afentoulis wrote:
>>> Hello there,
>>>
>>> dear list administrators could you possibly do something about spam in
>>> the list? Perhaps allow only subscribers to send or something similar?
>>>
>>> I'm having hard time coping with the amount of spam between the
>>> legitimate messages of the list. I think reducing spam would profit us all.
>>
>> This has been covered before. Just search list archives.
>>
>> What you can do is filter messages based on
>> X-Barracuda-Spam-Score:
>> X-Barracuda-Spam-Status:
>> headers. This should keep most of the spam out of your inbox.
>>
>> -Jarno
>>
>> --
>> Jarno Huuskonen
>>
> 

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Re: Could we reduce spam in the list?

[William Lewis]

Perhaps something about the spam philosophy and reasoning on this list
could be included on the website and/or initial subscription email. It
is a subject that comes up again and again.

Sent from my iPhone

> On 23 Nov 2015, at 09:53, Jarno Huuskonen  wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
>> On Mon, Nov 23, Alexandros Afentoulis wrote:
>> Hello there,
>>
>> dear list administrators could you possibly do something about spam in
>> the list? Perhaps allow only subscribers to send or something similar?
>>
>> I'm having hard time coping with the amount of spam between the
>> legitimate messages of the list. I think reducing spam would profit us all.
>
> This has been covered before. Just search list archives.
>
> What you can do is filter messages based on
> X-Barracuda-Spam-Score:
> X-Barracuda-Spam-Status:
> headers. This should keep most of the spam out of your inbox.
>
> -Jarno
>
> --
> Jarno Huuskonen
>

Re: Could we reduce spam in the list?

[Jarno Huuskonen]

Hi,

On Mon, Nov 23, Alexandros Afentoulis wrote:
> Hello there,
> 
> dear list administrators could you possibly do something about spam in
> the list? Perhaps allow only subscribers to send or something similar?
> 
> I'm having hard time coping with the amount of spam between the
> legitimate messages of the list. I think reducing spam would profit us all.

This has been covered before. Just search list archives.

What you can do is filter messages based on
X-Barracuda-Spam-Score:
X-Barracuda-Spam-Status:
headers. This should keep most of the spam out of your inbox.

-Jarno

-- 
Jarno Huuskonen

Re: Could we reduce spam in the list?

[Kobus Bensch]

I dont get any spam. Any I do get is dealt with swiftly by my own 
anti-spam measures.


This subject has been discussed at length. I dont think any action is 
required.


On 23/11/2015 09:41, Alexandros Afentoulis wrote:

Hello there,

dear list administrators could you possibly do something about spam in
the list? Perhaps allow only subscribers to send or something similar?

I'm having hard time coping with the amount of spam between the
legitimate messages of the list. I think reducing spam would profit us all.

Greetings,
Alex



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Address:  22 & 24 | Frederick Sanger Road | Guildford | Surrey | GU2 7YD
DDI:  0207 871 3958
Tel:  0207 871 3890
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The information in this email and any attachments are confidential and 
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copy, distribute, print or rely on the content of this email or its 
attachments. If this email has been received by you in error please advise 
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