[Hardhats-members] GT.M question -- making a test environment

2005-09-17 Thread Kevin Toppenberg
I am trying to set up two vista environments -- my existing production
one, and another mirror one in which I can test the patching process.

But I am getting a database problem when I do it.  I'll include a
screen log below

The production system uses these directories:

/usr/local/gtm/  -- gtm routines
/usr/local/OpenVistA/--- contains VistA routines
/var/local/OpenVistA_UserData/  --- contains  database and custome routines

Here is the startup script I use to get into my production system:

#!/bin/bash
echo  
echo GT.M VistA Startup Script
. /var/local/OpenVistA_UserData/setup_vista_env
echo Entering GT.M system now... 
#-
stty susp \000
if [ $# -gt 0 ]
  then
echo Automatically launching program: $1
$gtm_dist/mumps -r $1
  else
$gtm_dist/mumps -dir
fi
#$gtm_dist/mumps -dir
echo  
echo Leaving GT.M, returning to Linux...
echo  

And here is the script that sets up the environment variables:

#-
export m2web=/usr/local/m2web
export gtm_dist=/usr/local/gtm
export gtm_log=/var/gtm/log
export gtm_vista=/var/local/OpenVistA_UserData
export gtm_vista_prod=/usr/local/OpenVistA
export gtmgbldir=$gtm_vista/g/mumps.gld
export vista_home=$gtm_vista
 
export gtmroutines=$gtm_vista/o($gtm_vista_prod/r $gtm_vista/r
$gtm_dist) $gtm_dist() $m2web/o($m2web/w)  #//kt
# export gtmroutines=$gtm_vista/o($gtm_vista_prod/r $gtm_vista/r
$gtm_dist) $gtm_dist()
export EDITOR=vim
PATH=$PATH:$gtm_dist
#-
echo  
echo -
echo FYI, here are relevant defined variables:
echo
echo gtm_dist=$gtm_dist
echo gtm_log=$gtm_log
echo gtm_vista=$gtm_vista
echo gtm_vista_prod=$gtm_vista_prod
echo gtmgbldir=$gtmgbldir
echo vista_home=vista_home
echo gtmroutines=$gtmroutines
echo  
#-


So I copied directories (recursively) as follows:

/usr/local/OpenVistA
/usr/local/OpenVistA_TEST   -- new
/var/local/OpenVistA_UserData
/var/local/OpenVistA_TEST  -- new

(I did not copy /usr/local/gtm)

I created a second startup script like this (the key  difference is
the directory referenced to setup the environmental variables):

#!/bin/bash
 
echo  
echo GT.M VistA Startup Script
echo  
echo *** TEST ENVIRONMENT ***
echo  
 
. /var/local/OpenVistA_TEST/setup_vista_env
 
echo Entering GT.M system now... 
echo  
echo *** TEST ENVIRONMENT ***
echo  
#-
 
stty susp \000
 
if [ $# -gt 0 ]
  then
echo Automatically launching program: $1
$gtm_dist/mumps -r $1
  else
$gtm_dist/mumps -dir
fi
#$gtm_dist/mumps -dir
 
echo  
echo *** TEST ENVIRONMENT ***
echo Leaving GT.M, returning to Linux...
echo  
 

And now here is a screen log of the problem that I am having:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] kdt0p]$ sh runvistaTEST
  
GT.M VistA Startup Script
  
*** TEST ENVIRONMENT ***
  
  
  
-
FYI, here are relevant defined variables:
 
gtm_dist=/usr/local/gtm
gtm_log=/var/gtm/log
gtm_vista=/var/local/OpenVistA_TEST
gtm_vista_prod=/usr/local/OpenVistA_TEST
gtmgbldir=/var/local/OpenVistA_TEST/g/mumps.gld
vista_home=vista_home
gtmroutines=/var/local/OpenVistA_TEST/o(/usr/local/OpenVistA_TEST/r
/var/local/OpenVistA_TEST/r /usr/local/gtm) /usr/local/gtm()
/usr/local/m2web/o(/usr/local/m2web/w)
  
Entering GT.M system now...
  
*** TEST ENVIRONMENT ***
  
 
GTMd ^XUP
 
Setting up programmer environment
GTMw $ZSTATUS
150379346,XUP+7^XUP,%GTM-E-DBIDMISMATCH, Database file
/var/local/OpenVistA_UserData/g/mumps.dat id (region
/var/local/OpenVistA_TEST/g/mumps.dat) does not match file id in
shared memory (id = 655360).  ,Ensure region is properly
rundown.,%GTM-I-TEXT, Fileid of database file doesn't match fileid in
shared memory
GTM


I hesitate to simply rundown the database, because it seems that the
test environment might be somehow liked to the production environment.
 And I don't want to modify that.

Can anyone help?

Thanks
Kevin


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Re: [Hardhats-members] GT.M question -- making a test environment

2005-09-17 Thread Nancy Anthracite
I think the  mumps.gld contains a path to the original mumps.dat within it.

On Saturday 17 September 2005 10:13 am, Kevin Toppenberg wrote:
I am trying to set up two vista environments -- my existing production
one, and another mirror one in which I can test the patching process.

But I am getting a database problem when I do it.  I'll include a
screen log below

The production system uses these directories:

/usr/local/gtm/  -- gtm routines
/usr/local/OpenVistA/--- contains VistA routines
/var/local/OpenVistA_UserData/  --- contains  database and custome routines

Here is the startup script I use to get into my production system:

#!/bin/bash
echo  
echo GT.M VistA Startup Script
. /var/local/OpenVistA_UserData/setup_vista_env
echo Entering GT.M system now... 
#-
stty susp \000
if [ $# -gt 0 ]
  then
echo Automatically launching program: $1
$gtm_dist/mumps -r $1
  else
$gtm_dist/mumps -dir
fi
#$gtm_dist/mumps -dir
echo  
echo Leaving GT.M, returning to Linux...
echo  

And here is the script that sets up the environment variables:

#-
export m2web=/usr/local/m2web
export gtm_dist=/usr/local/gtm
export gtm_log=/var/gtm/log
export gtm_vista=/var/local/OpenVistA_UserData
export gtm_vista_prod=/usr/local/OpenVistA
export gtmgbldir=$gtm_vista/g/mumps.gld
export vista_home=$gtm_vista

export gtmroutines=$gtm_vista/o($gtm_vista_prod/r $gtm_vista/r
$gtm_dist) $gtm_dist() $m2web/o($m2web/w)  #//kt
# export gtmroutines=$gtm_vista/o($gtm_vista_prod/r $gtm_vista/r
$gtm_dist) $gtm_dist()
export EDITOR=vim
PATH=$PATH:$gtm_dist
#-
echo  
echo -
echo FYI, here are relevant defined variables:
echo
echo gtm_dist=$gtm_dist
echo gtm_log=$gtm_log
echo gtm_vista=$gtm_vista
echo gtm_vista_prod=$gtm_vista_prod
echo gtmgbldir=$gtmgbldir
echo vista_home=vista_home
echo gtmroutines=$gtmroutines
echo  
#-


So I copied directories (recursively) as follows:

/usr/local/OpenVistA
/usr/local/OpenVistA_TEST   -- new
/var/local/OpenVistA_UserData
/var/local/OpenVistA_TEST  -- new

(I did not copy /usr/local/gtm)

I created a second startup script like this (the key  difference is
the directory referenced to setup the environmental variables):

#!/bin/bash

echo  
echo GT.M VistA Startup Script
echo  
echo *** TEST ENVIRONMENT ***
echo  

. /var/local/OpenVistA_TEST/setup_vista_env

echo Entering GT.M system now... 
echo  
echo *** TEST ENVIRONMENT ***
echo  
#-

stty susp \000

if [ $# -gt 0 ]
  then
echo Automatically launching program: $1
$gtm_dist/mumps -r $1
  else
$gtm_dist/mumps -dir
fi
#$gtm_dist/mumps -dir

echo  
echo *** TEST ENVIRONMENT ***
echo Leaving GT.M, returning to Linux...
echo  


And now here is a screen log of the problem that I am having:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] kdt0p]$ sh runvistaTEST

GT.M VistA Startup Script

*** TEST ENVIRONMENT ***



-
FYI, here are relevant defined variables:

gtm_dist=/usr/local/gtm
gtm_log=/var/gtm/log
gtm_vista=/var/local/OpenVistA_TEST
gtm_vista_prod=/usr/local/OpenVistA_TEST
gtmgbldir=/var/local/OpenVistA_TEST/g/mumps.gld
vista_home=vista_home
gtmroutines=/var/local/OpenVistA_TEST/o(/usr/local/OpenVistA_TEST/r
/var/local/OpenVistA_TEST/r /usr/local/gtm) /usr/local/gtm()
/usr/local/m2web/o(/usr/local/m2web/w)

Entering GT.M system now...

*** TEST ENVIRONMENT ***


GTMd ^XUP

Setting up programmer environment
GTMw $ZSTATUS
150379346,XUP+7^XUP,%GTM-E-DBIDMISMATCH, Database file
/var/local/OpenVistA_UserData/g/mumps.dat id (region
/var/local/OpenVistA_TEST/g/mumps.dat) does not match file id in
shared memory (id = 655360).  ,Ensure region is properly
rundown.,%GTM-I-TEXT, Fileid of database file doesn't match fileid in
shared memory
GTM


I hesitate to simply rundown the database, because it seems that the
test environment might be somehow liked to the production environment.
 And I don't want to modify that.

Can anyone help?

Thanks
Kevin


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Re: [Hardhats-members] GT.M question -- making a test environment

2005-09-17 Thread Nancy Anthracite
Could you have  exported these in the wrong order?

export gtmgbldir=$gtm_vista/g/mumps.gld
export vista_home=$gtm_vista


On Saturday 17 September 2005 10:51 am, Nancy Anthracite wrote:
I think the  mumps.gld contains a path to the original mumps.dat within it.

On Saturday 17 September 2005 10:13 am, Kevin Toppenberg wrote:
I am trying to set up two vista environments -- my existing production
one, and another mirror one in which I can test the patching process.

But I am getting a database problem when I do it.  I'll include a
screen log below

The production system uses these directories:

/usr/local/gtm/  -- gtm routines
/usr/local/OpenVistA/--- contains VistA routines
/var/local/OpenVistA_UserData/  --- contains  database and custome routines

Here is the startup script I use to get into my production system:

#!/bin/bash
echo  
echo GT.M VistA Startup Script
. /var/local/OpenVistA_UserData/setup_vista_env
echo Entering GT.M system now... 
#-
stty susp \000
if [ $# -gt 0 ]
  then
echo Automatically launching program: $1
$gtm_dist/mumps -r $1
  else
$gtm_dist/mumps -dir
fi
#$gtm_dist/mumps -dir
echo  
echo Leaving GT.M, returning to Linux...
echo  

And here is the script that sets up the environment variables:

#-
export m2web=/usr/local/m2web
export gtm_dist=/usr/local/gtm
export gtm_log=/var/gtm/log
export gtm_vista=/var/local/OpenVistA_UserData
export gtm_vista_prod=/usr/local/OpenVistA
export gtmgbldir=$gtm_vista/g/mumps.gld
export vista_home=$gtm_vista

export gtmroutines=$gtm_vista/o($gtm_vista_prod/r $gtm_vista/r
$gtm_dist) $gtm_dist() $m2web/o($m2web/w)  #//kt
# export gtmroutines=$gtm_vista/o($gtm_vista_prod/r $gtm_vista/r
$gtm_dist) $gtm_dist()
export EDITOR=vim
PATH=$PATH:$gtm_dist
#-
echo  
echo -
echo FYI, here are relevant defined variables:
echo
echo gtm_dist=$gtm_dist
echo gtm_log=$gtm_log
echo gtm_vista=$gtm_vista
echo gtm_vista_prod=$gtm_vista_prod
echo gtmgbldir=$gtmgbldir
echo vista_home=vista_home
echo gtmroutines=$gtmroutines
echo  
#-


So I copied directories (recursively) as follows:

/usr/local/OpenVistA
/usr/local/OpenVistA_TEST   -- new
/var/local/OpenVistA_UserData
/var/local/OpenVistA_TEST  -- new

(I did not copy /usr/local/gtm)

I created a second startup script like this (the key  difference is
the directory referenced to setup the environmental variables):

#!/bin/bash

echo  
echo GT.M VistA Startup Script
echo  
echo *** TEST ENVIRONMENT ***
echo  

. /var/local/OpenVistA_TEST/setup_vista_env

echo Entering GT.M system now... 
echo  
echo *** TEST ENVIRONMENT ***
echo  
#-

stty susp \000

if [ $# -gt 0 ]
  then
echo Automatically launching program: $1
$gtm_dist/mumps -r $1
  else
$gtm_dist/mumps -dir
fi
#$gtm_dist/mumps -dir

echo  
echo *** TEST ENVIRONMENT ***
echo Leaving GT.M, returning to Linux...
echo  


And now here is a screen log of the problem that I am having:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] kdt0p]$ sh runvistaTEST

GT.M VistA Startup Script

*** TEST ENVIRONMENT ***



-
FYI, here are relevant defined variables:

gtm_dist=/usr/local/gtm
gtm_log=/var/gtm/log
gtm_vista=/var/local/OpenVistA_TEST
gtm_vista_prod=/usr/local/OpenVistA_TEST
gtmgbldir=/var/local/OpenVistA_TEST/g/mumps.gld
vista_home=vista_home
gtmroutines=/var/local/OpenVistA_TEST/o(/usr/local/OpenVistA_TEST/r
/var/local/OpenVistA_TEST/r /usr/local/gtm) /usr/local/gtm()
/usr/local/m2web/o(/usr/local/m2web/w)

Entering GT.M system now...

*** TEST ENVIRONMENT ***


GTMd ^XUP

Setting up programmer environment
GTMw $ZSTATUS
150379346,XUP+7^XUP,%GTM-E-DBIDMISMATCH, Database file
/var/local/OpenVistA_UserData/g/mumps.dat id (region
/var/local/OpenVistA_TEST/g/mumps.dat) does not match file id in
shared memory (id = 655360).  ,Ensure region is properly
rundown.,%GTM-I-TEXT, Fileid of database file doesn't match fileid in
shared memory
GTM


I hesitate to simply rundown the database, because it seems that the
test environment might be somehow liked to the production environment.
 And I don't want to modify that.

Can anyone help?

Thanks
Kevin


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[Hardhats-members] Synopsis of VistA Community Call for 09/16/2005

2005-09-17 Thread Mark Street
Could someone post a synopsis of the Community Call yesterday?  I was up to my 
neck in burning oil and couldn't get away damn Windows 2000 servers

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Re: [Hardhats-members] Synopsis of VistA Community Call for 09/16/2005

2005-09-17 Thread Gregory Woodhouse
Didn't you hear? WorldVistA has a bid to acquire Oracle and release  
all their code as open source. :-|


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On Sep 17, 2005, at 9:08 AM, Mark Street wrote:

Could someone post a synopsis of the Community Call yesterday?  I  
was up to my
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servers


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[Hardhats-members] Re: Synopsis of VistA Community Call for 09/16/2005

2005-09-17 Thread Kevin Toppenberg
The key news that I heard (I missed the part about Katrina), was that
Cynthia Wark (speaking for CMS) said that VistOffice will be beta
tested before release.  And that beta test is expected to take 15
months.

CMS is concerned that any product they release be a proper program. 
For example, they wrote code that allows prescriptions to be printed
to paper/fax (which would be good enough for me)--but there was
concern that this was not truly electronic prescribing (ie. where the
prescription was transmitted electronically all the way to the
pharmacy's computer).  So that is one hold up.

Plus, the playing field regarding expectations seems to be changing. 
For example, when the CMS project, there was no central government
task force.  Now it seems that there is an IT agency.  I'm a little
blurry on the details.  But release requires approval by a long chain
of command.  With all this bureaucracy, I wonder if the government can
be nimble enough to actually get a product out.

In the interum, some of the code for VistAOffice will be incorporated
into the VA's code stream, so some of it may be available from the
standard patch stream.  The ability print out prescriptions is
apparently one such patch.  I am especially interested in this one. 
And if I get it working, I will let this board know.

Kevin


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 Didn't you hear? WorldVistA has a bid to acquire Oracle and release  
 all their code as open source. :-|
 
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  Could someone post a synopsis of the Community Call yesterday?  I  
  was up to my
  neck in burning oil and couldn't get away damn Windows 2000  
  servers
 
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[Hardhats-members] Where can the source for the VistA Imaging client be downloaded?

2005-09-17 Thread Kevin Toppenberg
Where can the source for the VistA Imaging client be downloaded?  I
looked on the FTP site and I must be overlooking it.

Thanks
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[Hardhats-members] Re: GT.M question -- making a test environment

2005-09-17 Thread Kevin Toppenberg
On 9/17/05, Nancy Anthracite [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I think the  mumps.gld contains a path to the original mumps.dat within it.
 

Any way to fix it without breaking the original setup?


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[Hardhats-members] Re: GT.M question -- making a test environment

2005-09-17 Thread Kevin Toppenberg
On 9/17/05, Nancy Anthracite [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Could you have  exported these in the wrong order?
 
 export gtmgbldir=$gtm_vista/g/mumps.gld
 export vista_home=$gtm_vista
 
 

If the code said this:
 export gtmgbldir=$gtm_vista/g/mumps.gld
 export gtm_vista=$vista_home
you would be right.

But as the code stands, I think it is OK.  Besides I didn't change
that part of the script (that was working find) when I setup this test
environment.

Thanks Nancy.
Kevin


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Re: [Hardhats-members] Synopsis of VistA Community Call for 09/16/2005

2005-09-17 Thread Chris Richardson
Basically, Cynthia Werk of CMMS indicated that the full release of VistA
Office would be delayed for about 2 years.   There is concern about new
legislation and requirements that are on the horizon that they don't quite
unerstand how to handle yet.
  [Personal comment: I applaud Cynthia for coming onto the call and speaking
about the CMMS fears.  There is a perception that VistA is a product that
once deployed cannot be modified.  This is the very soul of the VistA model,
the ability to adapt to the unknown.  This is why this model has survived
for more than 25 years.  The mechanisms for change and enhancement are built
in.  VistA is not one package  It is a suite of packages which have
inter-relationships.  Each functionality can progress as long as the
interfaces an expectations that other functionalities depend upon are
honored.  The need for this tool now is great.  Giving it to the community
will start the flow of real requirements that the Practices will need.  One
item that came out of the meeting was that there would be 5 to 10 test
sites.  In the hospital installation environment, there is one maxim, When
you have seen one hospital, you have seen one hospital.  This is probably
very true for the medical pratice as well.  More test sites with the
understanding that they are test sites will give a better view of what the
real needs are.]

   The VistA Community Meeting is coming up at the end of October and be 3
days long and in the DC area.   We are still looking for a venue.




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 Could someone post a synopsis of the Community Call yesterday?  I was up
to my
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Re: [Hardhats-members] Re: GT.M question -- making a test environment

2005-09-17 Thread Gregory Woodhouse
Don't you have to define gtm_vista before using it in the definition  
of gtmgbldir? I don't know if bash processes exports in purely  
sequential order, but it does look odd.


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On Sep 17, 2005, at 9:41 AM, Kevin Toppenberg wrote:


On 9/17/05, Nancy Anthracite [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Could you have  exported these in the wrong order?

export gtmgbldir=$gtm_vista/g/mumps.gld
export vista_home=$gtm_vista





If the code said this:


export gtmgbldir=$gtm_vista/g/mumps.gld
export gtm_vista=$vista_home


you would be right.

But as the code stands, I think it is OK.  Besides I didn't change
that part of the script (that was working find) when I setup this test
environment.

Thanks Nancy.
Kevin





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[Hardhats-members] Re: VistA imaging on Windows server only??

2005-09-17 Thread Kevin Toppenberg
Do you know where this https:// was stored?

I thought that is was in field PHYSICAL REFERENCE (#1) in the NETWORK
LOCATION file.

But here is the screen for that datafield:
 K:$L(X)63!($L(X)1)!'((X?1\\.E1\.E1\)!(X?1A1:\1E.E1\)) X

Which again has the \ hard coded in.
Did you all change this screen on your server?

Incidentally, this seems like a fairly restrictive screen.  It seems
to only allow a file path with two nodes.  I may be reading the ?
arguments wrong.  I still have a hard time with that feature.

Thanks
Kevin



On 9/16/05, Todd Berman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Fri, 2005-09-16 at 19:58 -0400, Kevin Toppenberg wrote:
  See below
  
  On 9/16/05, Todd Berman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   On Fri, 2005-09-16 at 17:29 -0400, Kevin Toppenberg wrote:
Todd,

So let me see if I understand you.

1. From your client, you change any /'s into \'s before passing
the info to the RPC.  Then, when you request the info back again, the
client changes any \'s to / before using the filepathname.  Is
that right?
   
   We don't ever pass a file path to the RPC. We tell it to create an
 image
   record, and it passes back a url, then we put the file where it says to
   put it, and go about association. At no point do we ever pass any RPC a
   file path.
  
  Hmmm.  It would sure help if I had ever even laid eyes on this program
  that I am trying to emulate.  Thanks for this info.  It helps.
  
   
   If you need exact information about what parameters we send to the
   various RPCs, I would be more than happy to provide them.
  
  Yes, I would like those if you have them.
  
 
 I will attempt to put something at some point soonish, its late friday
 afternoon, headin out of the office.
 
   

I have been picking through the code.  And it looked to me like it
 had
code that actually checked for the existence of the file before
passing it's name back to the client.  But I might be wrong on that.
If it is NOT verifying the existence of the file, then there wouldn't
be any problem.
   
   It doesn't seem to be an issue, considering the urls that get returned
   to us are https://blah/file/location, and I seriously doubt that this
   code is checking that.
  
  So it looks like it is passing back a url for https.  I had thought
  that the VA was using local filesystems to deliver the file.  Perhaps
  this is something that can be configured one way or another. 
  Interesting.
  
 
 That is what the VA does, but not what we do. The software allows you to
 specify the files root path, and a username/passwd, so we specify
 the .htaccess username/passwd and the root is like
 https://images.site.com/images; or whatever.
 
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[Hardhats-members] Re: GT.M question -- making a test environment

2005-09-17 Thread Kevin Toppenberg
If you look at my first post, you will see this line:
export gtm_vista=/var/local/OpenVistA_UserData

that comes before its use.  The two lines from Nancy's post was just a
snipet of the entire script.

Kevin



On 9/17/05, Gregory Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Don't you have to define gtm_vista before using it in the definition  
 of gtmgbldir? I don't know if bash processes exports in purely  
 sequential order, but it does look odd.
 
 ===
 Gregory Woodhouse
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
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 --Mark Weiser
 
 
 
 On Sep 17, 2005, at 9:41 AM, Kevin Toppenberg wrote:
 
  On 9/17/05, Nancy Anthracite [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Could you have  exported these in the wrong order?
 
  export gtmgbldir=$gtm_vista/g/mumps.gld
  export vista_home=$gtm_vista
 
 
 
 
  If the code said this:
 
  export gtmgbldir=$gtm_vista/g/mumps.gld
  export gtm_vista=$vista_home
 
  you would be right.
 
  But as the code stands, I think it is OK.  Besides I didn't change
  that part of the script (that was working find) when I setup this test
  environment.
 
  Thanks Nancy.
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RE: [Hardhats-members] Where can the source for the VistA Imaging client be downloaded?

2005-09-17 Thread Cameron Schlehuber
Dr Ruth Dayhoff has not wanted the code to be available through e-FOIA and
only has allowed the code to be sent out on CDs.  The CDs are several years
old now, so if you want the most recent code, you'll have to make it clear
in your written FOIA request.

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Subject: [Hardhats-members] Where can the source for the VistA Imaging
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Where can the source for the VistA Imaging client be downloaded?  I
looked on the FTP site and I must be overlooking it.

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[Hardhats-members] Re: Where can the source for the VistA Imaging client be downloaded?

2005-09-17 Thread Kevin Toppenberg
I would not mind a version that is several years old.  What I am
trying to get at is the RPC calls, and the overall way that the client
works.

If I could get the older version easier, I would go that way.  If I
have to make a formal request either way, then I will go with the
recent version.

Do you know if anyone else has gotten the source, that I could perhaps
get it from them?

Thanks
Kevin


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 Dr Ruth Dayhoff has not wanted the code to be available through e-FOIA and
 only has allowed the code to be sent out on CDs.  The CDs are several years
 old now, so if you want the most recent code, you'll have to make it clear
 in your written FOIA request.
 
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 Toppenberg
 Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2005 9:36 AM
 To: Hardhats Sourceforge
 Subject: [Hardhats-members] Where can the source for the VistA Imaging
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 Where can the source for the VistA Imaging client be downloaded?  I
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RE: [Hardhats-members] Re: Where can the source for the VistA Imaging client be downloaded?

2005-09-17 Thread Cameron Schlehuber
The server side RPCs are in the VistA FOIA in the REMOTE PROCEDURE file.
Look at all the entries beginning with MAG.

You could send a FOIA request to see the list of who has requested the
Imaging software ...  I don't know who has asked for it.

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Toppenberg
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2005 10:41 AM
To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: [Hardhats-members] Re: Where can the source for the VistA Imaging
client be downloaded?

I would not mind a version that is several years old.  What I am
trying to get at is the RPC calls, and the overall way that the client
works.

If I could get the older version easier, I would go that way.  If I
have to make a formal request either way, then I will go with the
recent version.

Do you know if anyone else has gotten the source, that I could perhaps
get it from them?

Thanks
Kevin


On 9/17/05, Cameron Schlehuber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Dr Ruth Dayhoff has not wanted the code to be available through e-FOIA and
 only has allowed the code to be sent out on CDs.  The CDs are several
years
 old now, so if you want the most recent code, you'll have to make it clear
 in your written FOIA request.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin
 Toppenberg
 Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2005 9:36 AM
 To: Hardhats Sourceforge
 Subject: [Hardhats-members] Where can the source for the VistA Imaging
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 Where can the source for the VistA Imaging client be downloaded?  I
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[Hardhats-members] Re: Where can the source for the VistA Imaging client be downloaded?

2005-09-17 Thread Kevin Toppenberg
I have found the server-side RPC's, but I want to see the client side.

So what do I need to do to get the windows client?

Kevin


On 9/17/05, Cameron Schlehuber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The server side RPCs are in the VistA FOIA in the REMOTE PROCEDURE file.
 Look at all the entries beginning with MAG.
 
 You could send a FOIA request to see the list of who has requested the
 Imaging software ...  I don't know who has asked for it.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin
 Toppenberg
 Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2005 10:41 AM
 To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
 Subject: [Hardhats-members] Re: Where can the source for the VistA Imaging
 client be downloaded?
 
 I would not mind a version that is several years old.  What I am
 trying to get at is the RPC calls, and the overall way that the client
 works.
 
 If I could get the older version easier, I would go that way.  If I
 have to make a formal request either way, then I will go with the
 recent version.
 
 Do you know if anyone else has gotten the source, that I could perhaps
 get it from them?
 
 Thanks
 Kevin
 
 
 On 9/17/05, Cameron Schlehuber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Dr Ruth Dayhoff has not wanted the code to be available through e-FOIA
 and
  only has allowed the code to be sent out on CDs.  The CDs are several
 years
  old now, so if you want the most recent code, you'll have to make it
 clear
  in your written FOIA request.
  
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin
  Toppenberg
  Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2005 9:36 AM
  To: Hardhats Sourceforge
  Subject: [Hardhats-members] Where can the source for the VistA Imaging
  client be downloaded?
  
  Where can the source for the VistA Imaging client be downloaded?  I
  looked on the FTP site and I must be overlooking it.
  
  Thanks
  Kevin
  
  
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Re: [Hardhats-members] Synopsis of VistA Community Call for 09/16/2005

2005-09-17 Thread John Leo Zimmer
I recorded Friday's call. Brian Lord's narrative of the Katrina project is
about 5 minutes. And makes me proud to be a Hardhat. I tried to load the .ogg
file to the Wiki but it refuses to cooperate. That file is a couple Meg. And I
would be happy to share it... or put on the Wiki if that can be fixed. It
advertizes preference for .ogg sound files.

The rest of the hour is equally interesting... partly for the contrast it
provides between CMS and Hardhats. That makes an .ogg file of about 14 Meg. ;-(

The Friday conference is becomming more interesting all the time.

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RE: [Hardhats-members] Re: Where can the source for the VistA Imaging client be downloaded?

2005-09-17 Thread Cameron Schlehuber
Send a request for the Imaging software to

Department of Veterans Affairs
VHA Office of Information Field Office
ATTN: National Help Desk (FOIA Request)
3701 Loop Road East , Building 40
Tuscaloosa ,  AL   35404

Enclose a check for $14.72 to Department of Veterans Affairs or call
888-596-4357 for current fees.

-Original Message-
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Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2005 10:51 AM
To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: [Hardhats-members] Re: Where can the source for the VistA Imaging
client be downloaded?

I have found the server-side RPC's, but I want to see the client side.

So what do I need to do to get the windows client?

Kevin


On 9/17/05, Cameron Schlehuber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The server side RPCs are in the VistA FOIA in the REMOTE PROCEDURE file.
 Look at all the entries beginning with MAG.
 
 You could send a FOIA request to see the list of who has requested the
 Imaging software ...  I don't know who has asked for it.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin
 Toppenberg
 Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2005 10:41 AM
 To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
 Subject: [Hardhats-members] Re: Where can the source for the VistA Imaging
 client be downloaded?
 
 I would not mind a version that is several years old.  What I am
 trying to get at is the RPC calls, and the overall way that the client
 works.
 
 If I could get the older version easier, I would go that way.  If I
 have to make a formal request either way, then I will go with the
 recent version.
 
 Do you know if anyone else has gotten the source, that I could perhaps
 get it from them?
 
 Thanks
 Kevin
 
 
 On 9/17/05, Cameron Schlehuber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Dr Ruth Dayhoff has not wanted the code to be available through e-FOIA
 and
  only has allowed the code to be sent out on CDs.  The CDs are several
 years
  old now, so if you want the most recent code, you'll have to make it
 clear
  in your written FOIA request.
  
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin
  Toppenberg
  Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2005 9:36 AM
  To: Hardhats Sourceforge
  Subject: [Hardhats-members] Where can the source for the VistA Imaging
  client be downloaded?
  
  Where can the source for the VistA Imaging client be downloaded?  I
  looked on the FTP site and I must be overlooking it.
  
  Thanks
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Re: [Hardhats-members] Re: VistA imaging on Windows server only??

2005-09-17 Thread Todd Berman
On Sat, 2005-09-17 at 12:55 -0400, Kevin Toppenberg wrote:
 Do you know where this https:// was stored?
 
 I thought that is was in field PHYSICAL REFERENCE (#1) in the NETWORK
 LOCATION file.
 


That I am not entirely sure of. That was setup by one of our VistA
experts, not by myself. I can attempt find out on Monday though.

And I will do my best to get you the RPC arguments either today or
tomorrow, but Monday at the latest depending on time allowed.

--Todd



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RE: [Hardhats-members] Synopsis of VistA Community Call for 09/16/2005

2005-09-17 Thread Thurman Pedigo


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardhats-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Richardson
 Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2005 10:41 AM
 sites.  In the hospital installation environment, there is one maxim,
 When
 you have seen one hospital, you have seen one hospital.  This is probably
 very true for the medical pratice as well.  More test sites with the
 understanding that they are test sites will give a better view of what the
 real needs are.]

How true! How true!

Thereby the source of practice variation fueling medical errors that
prompted David Eddy, M.D., several years ago, to cite the tale of NYC health
department sending a group of children to have physician evaluation.
Something like 40% had recommended tonsillectomies. The remaining 60% went
to a different group of physicians with similar results, and so on, until
almost every child had the same recommendation. That study was in 1935. When
I entered practice in 1965 the same practice remained in place for another
10 years. 

I wonder if anyone on this list knows of veterans benefiting from such
variation.

thurman 





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[Hardhats-members] Re: VistA imaging on Windows server only??

2005-09-17 Thread Kevin Toppenberg
I have just spent some time going through the code.  I have documented
what I found out here:

http://openforum.worldvista.org/~forum/index.php?title=VistA_Imaging_Issues

I am fairly sure that the https://myserver.com/; would be stored in
the PHYSICAL REFERENCE field, as mentioned above.

Then, if there is a longer path that is needed that should be
concatenated to this location, then it should be stored in the
SUBDIRECTORY field.

Kevin


On 9/17/05, Todd Berman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sat, 2005-09-17 at 12:55 -0400, Kevin Toppenberg wrote:
  Do you know where this https:// was stored?
  
  I thought that is was in field PHYSICAL REFERENCE (#1) in the NETWORK
  LOCATION file.
  
 
 
 That I am not entirely sure of. That was setup by one of our VistA
 experts, not by myself. I can attempt find out on Monday though.
 
 And I will do my best to get you the RPC arguments either today or
 tomorrow, but Monday at the latest depending on time allowed.
 
 --Todd
 
 
 
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Re: [Hardhats-members] VISTA Setup problerm

2005-09-17 Thread K.S. Bhaskar
Michael --

Btw, even if you don't have a PC with Linux installed at work, you can
always use a live CD, or CoLinux.

-- Bhaskar

On Fri, 2005-09-16 at 18:50 -0500, Michael Zacharias wrote:
 i'm just playing around at this point, and do not have a linux
 machine 
 available here at work, so am using cache/winxp.  when i get serious,
 i will be 
 using GTM/Linux...
 
 
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RE: [Hardhats-members] Re: Where can the source for the VistA Imaging client be downloaded?

2005-09-17 Thread Roy Gaber
Kevin, Steve Owen and I will be contacting you shortly, we will help you out
with the API's.

-Original Message-
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Toppenberg
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To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: [Hardhats-members] Re: Where can the source for the VistA Imaging
client be downloaded?

I would not mind a version that is several years old.  What I am
trying to get at is the RPC calls, and the overall way that the client
works.

If I could get the older version easier, I would go that way.  If I
have to make a formal request either way, then I will go with the
recent version.

Do you know if anyone else has gotten the source, that I could perhaps
get it from them?

Thanks
Kevin


On 9/17/05, Cameron Schlehuber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Dr Ruth Dayhoff has not wanted the code to be available through e-FOIA and
 only has allowed the code to be sent out on CDs.  The CDs are several
years
 old now, so if you want the most recent code, you'll have to make it clear
 in your written FOIA request.
 
 -Original Message-
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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin
 Toppenberg
 Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2005 9:36 AM
 To: Hardhats Sourceforge
 Subject: [Hardhats-members] Where can the source for the VistA Imaging
 client be downloaded?
 
 Where can the source for the VistA Imaging client be downloaded?  I
 looked on the FTP site and I must be overlooking it.
 
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Re: [Hardhats-members] Synopsis of VistA Community Call for 09/16/2005

2005-09-17 Thread K.S. Bhaskar
Brian Lord spoke of the Katrina relief efforts; those I have summarized
already.

Capt. Cynthia Wark of CMS spoke about VistA Office EHR.  The plan is to
beta test the software at perhaps 10 sites for 6-9 months.  Meanwhile
vendors will be qualified to install and support VOE.  The code base can
be made available to developers but cannot be installed until it is
released.  Meanwhile, bits of the code that interact with changes that
the VA makes in VistA will find their way into the VistA code base and
be released with VistA FOIA releases.

Others who participated in the call please correct errors and expand on
my summary as appropriate.  Thank you very much.

-- Bhaskar

On Sat, 2005-09-17 at 11:08 -0500, Mark Street wrote:
 Could someone post a synopsis of the Community Call yesterday?  I was
 up to my  
 neck in burning oil and couldn't get away damn Windows 2000
 servers
 
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Re: [Hardhats-members] GT.M question -- making a test environment

2005-09-17 Thread K.S. Bhaskar
Kevin --

I think Greg is on the right track.  Did you use a Linux cp command to
copy a database file that was in active use or did you use mupip backup
command?  The following will not give you a usable copy unless the
database is not in use.

If you did indeed make a copy of a database that was open with a Linux
cp (or other Linux command), you will need to delete your copy and
replace it with a fresh copy made with (a) mupip backup, or (b) the
Linux cp command when all processes are out of the database.

If this is not the case, let's start troubleshooting in more detail.

-- Bhaskar

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 Was GT.M running when you did the copy? It sounds as if a region of   
 shared memory was never released.
 
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[Hardhats-members] Re: GT.M question -- making a test environment

2005-09-17 Thread Kevin Toppenberg
Bhaskar,

You are correct.  I just used a cp command.  I'll shut the processes
down (i.e. the RPC listener and taskman) and try to copy it again.

Thanks
Kevin


On 9/17/05, K.S. Bhaskar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Kevin --
 
 I think Greg is on the right track.  Did you use a Linux cp command to
 copy a database file that was in active use or did you use mupip backup
 command?  The following will not give you a usable copy unless the
 database is not in use.
 
 If you did indeed make a copy of a database that was open with a Linux
 cp (or other Linux command), you will need to delete your copy and
 replace it with a fresh copy made with (a) mupip backup, or (b) the
 Linux cp command when all processes are out of the database.
 
 If this is not the case, let's start troubleshooting in more detail.
 
 -- Bhaskar
 
 On Sat, 2005-09-17 at 12:11 -0500, Gregory Woodhouse wrote:
  Was GT.M running when you did the copy? It sounds as if a region of   
  shared memory was never released.
  
  === 
  Gregory Woodhouse 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
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[Hardhats-members] Re: Where can the source for the VistA Imaging client be downloaded?

2005-09-17 Thread Kevin Toppenberg
Thanks!


On 9/17/05, Roy Gaber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Kevin, Steve Owen and I will be contacting you shortly, we will help you
 out
 with the API's.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin
 Toppenberg
 Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2005 1:41 PM
 To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
 Subject: [Hardhats-members] Re: Where can the source for the VistA Imaging
 client be downloaded?
 
 I would not mind a version that is several years old.  What I am
 trying to get at is the RPC calls, and the overall way that the client
 works.
 
 If I could get the older version easier, I would go that way.  If I
 have to make a formal request either way, then I will go with the
 recent version.
 
 Do you know if anyone else has gotten the source, that I could perhaps
 get it from them?
 
 Thanks
 Kevin
 
 
 On 9/17/05, Cameron Schlehuber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Dr Ruth Dayhoff has not wanted the code to be available through e-FOIA
 and
  only has allowed the code to be sent out on CDs.  The CDs are several
 years
  old now, so if you want the most recent code, you'll have to make it
 clear
  in your written FOIA request.
  
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin
  Toppenberg
  Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2005 9:36 AM
  To: Hardhats Sourceforge
  Subject: [Hardhats-members] Where can the source for the VistA Imaging
  client be downloaded?
  
  Where can the source for the VistA Imaging client be downloaded?  I
  looked on the FTP site and I must be overlooking it.
  
  Thanks
  Kevin
  
  
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[Hardhats-members] Re: GT.M question -- making a test environment

2005-09-17 Thread Kevin Toppenberg
I shut everything down, and the copy worked fine.  I am now able to
launch into either database and they are separate.   I should have
known that.  I'm going to have to hit that GT.M system's admin book
again!

Thanks so much.
Kevin


On 9/17/05, Kevin Toppenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Bhaskar,
 
 You are correct.  I just used a cp command.  I'll shut the processes
 down (i.e. the RPC listener and taskman) and try to copy it again.
 
 Thanks
 Kevin
 
 
 On 9/17/05, K.S. Bhaskar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Kevin --
  
  I think Greg is on the right track.  Did you use a Linux cp command to
  copy a database file that was in active use or did you use mupip backup
  command?  The following will not give you a usable copy unless the
  database is not in use.
  
  If you did indeed make a copy of a database that was open with a Linux
  cp (or other Linux command), you will need to delete your copy and
  replace it with a fresh copy made with (a) mupip backup, or (b) the
  Linux cp command when all processes are out of the database.
  
  If this is not the case, let's start troubleshooting in more detail.
  
  -- Bhaskar
  
  On Sat, 2005-09-17 at 12:11 -0500, Gregory Woodhouse wrote:
   Was GT.M running when you did the copy? It sounds as if a region of   
   shared memory was never released.
   
   === 
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   you do not understand. 
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Re: [Hardhats-members] Re: GT.M question -- making a test environment

2005-09-17 Thread K.S. Bhaskar
You're welcome.

The exercises in the GT.M Acculturation CD may also be useful to go
through.

-- Bhaskar

On Sat, 2005-09-17 at 18:01 -0500, Kevin Toppenberg wrote:
 I shut everything down, and the copy worked fine.  I am now able to 
 launch into either database and they are separate.   I should have 
 known that.  I'm going to have to hit that GT.M system's admin book 
 again!
 
 Thanks so much. 
 Kevin



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