RE: RCP Broker Message Structure (was Re: [Hardhats-members] new Java client for VistA.)

2005-10-22 Thread Roy Gaber
Understood.

What is it that you are looking for?  The application data can be had by
looking at the RPC code on both the client and the server.  You can view it
using a sniffer as well.

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Roy Gaber wrote:
 > TCP

I'm not talking about the networking protocol.  I'm talking about the 
data protocol used at the application level - the RCP Broker message 
structure itself.

The VA docs make it clear that RPC Broker communication details were 
meant to be hidden to all software clients that are not a) another VistA 
server, or b) Delphi clients or c) internal VistA and/or operating 
system processes.

Again, It's a smart move on the VA's part because it gives the 
development team quality control on client communications.   And in all 
fairness the the need for non-VA people to write other types of clients 
may not have been a high enough priority so far.

In any case the exact details of RPC Broker messages are a mystery to 
those outside the RPC Broker development team.


See the "RPC Broker Systems Manual," v-1.1, page 2-17:

"RPC BROKER MESSAGE STRUCTURE" - partly reads as follows:

The basic RPC Broker merssage structure consists of the following:
* A header portion (which includes the name of the remote procedure call).
* The body of the message (which includes descriptors, length 
computations, and M parameter data).



Also, look in the "RPC Broker Technical Manual," Version 1.1; Patch 
XWB*1.1*40 (Page 13-2):

"INTERFACES"

No *non*-VA products are embedded in or required by the RPC Broker 
software, other than those provided by the underlying operating systems.

(emphasis theirs)



Richard Schilling

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> 
> Nancy Anthracite wrote:
> 
>>You mentioned the Broker documentation, and I know you are not referring
> 
> to 
> 
>>this particular documentation, but I was poking around the Broker
> 
> components 
> 
>>while attempting to use Delphi a few months back and the Help files with
> 
> them 
> 
>>were really wonderful.  It was like a friend was right there trying to
> 
> help 
> 
>>me out and was doing a bang up job of it.
> 
> 
>  From the end user standpoint and delphi developer standpoint it's 
> great. No question. But I haven't seen any documentation yet on the 
> actual protocol used on the wire yet. Have you run across this?
> 
> Richard Schilling
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Re: [Hardhats-members] Re: Hardhats-members

2005-10-22 Thread Nancy Anthracite
Run the two databases in two different directories, say C:\Cachesys\MGR\EHR 
and C:\CacheSys\MGR\VistA and when you start the listener, do it with a 
different port for each one.  Next I need to find out exactly how you are 
starting the the listener to know where to tell you to change the port.  The 
ports are not fixed in stone.  You could choose 9200, 9300, pretty much what 
you want as long as you are not somewhere where you will step on a port used 
for something else.  Two places you might be able to change are to
change the port number if you start the listener with D STRT^XWBTCP([PORT])  
or using D Q^DI Option 1 and edit the listener port in the RPC Broker File

On Saturday 22 October 2005 09:12 pm, Bharath Ramachandra wrote:
hello,

  how do can i setup 2 EHR databases on the same cache server, since
 both the databases are listening on 9210 how can i change the port number to
 listen on a different port number on cache ?



Thanks

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[Hardhats-members] Re: Hardhats-members

2005-10-22 Thread Bharath Ramachandra
hello,
  how do can i setup 2 EHR databases on the same cache server, since both the databases are listening on 9210 how can i change the port number to listen on a different port number on cache ? 
 
Thanks
 Bharath Ramachandra
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RCP Broker Message Structure (was Re: [Hardhats-members] new Java client for VistA.)

2005-10-22 Thread Richard Schilling


Roy Gaber wrote:
> TCP

I'm not talking about the networking protocol.  I'm talking about the 
data protocol used at the application level - the RCP Broker message 
structure itself.


The VA docs make it clear that RPC Broker communication details were 
meant to be hidden to all software clients that are not a) another VistA 
server, or b) Delphi clients or c) internal VistA and/or operating 
system processes.


Again, It's a smart move on the VA's part because it gives the 
development team quality control on client communications.   And in all 
fairness the the need for non-VA people to write other types of clients 
may not have been a high enough priority so far.


In any case the exact details of RPC Broker messages are a mystery to 
those outside the RPC Broker development team.



See the "RPC Broker Systems Manual," v-1.1, page 2-17:

"RPC BROKER MESSAGE STRUCTURE" - partly reads as follows:

The basic RPC Broker merssage structure consists of the following:
* A header portion (which includes the name of the remote procedure call).
* The body of the message (which includes descriptors, length 
computations, and M parameter data).




Also, look in the "RPC Broker Technical Manual," Version 1.1; Patch 
XWB*1.1*40 (Page 13-2):


"INTERFACES"

No *non*-VA products are embedded in or required by the RPC Broker 
software, other than those provided by the underlying operating systems.


(emphasis theirs)



Richard Schilling



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Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] new Java client for VistA.

Nancy Anthracite wrote:


You mentioned the Broker documentation, and I know you are not referring


to 


this particular documentation, but I was poking around the Broker


components 


while attempting to use Delphi a few months back and the Help files with


them 


were really wonderful.  It was like a friend was right there trying to


help 


me out and was doing a bang up job of it.



 From the end user standpoint and delphi developer standpoint it's 
great. No question. But I haven't seen any documentation yet on the 
actual protocol used on the wire yet. Have you run across this?


Richard Schilling



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RE: [Hardhats-members] Problem unitizing File Man

2005-10-22 Thread Cameron Schlehuber
You should use Cache Configuration Manager to map as follows:

Globals:
%Z* to VISTA

Routines:
%DT* to VISTA
%RCR to VISTA
%XU* to VISTA
%ZIS* to VISTA
%ZO* to VISTA
%ZT* to VISTA

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Did you set up the mappings for the % routines? Unfortunately, this is
something you have to do manually.

--- Peter Bodtke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I am attempting to install VistA on XP Pro with a Cache single user
> developer license. I am able to run File Man, connect with the
> Cache.dat in
> namespace VISTA and modify fields, but when I tried to initialize
> File Man I
> receive an error:
> 
> VISTA>D ^DINIT
> 
> VA FileMan V.22.0
> 
> K %DT,DT S:$D(IO(0))[0 IO(0)=$I D NOW^%DTC S DT=X,U="^"
> 
> ^
> 
> DTNOLF+3^DICRW
> 
> VISTA 3d2>
> 
> Any thoughts?
>  
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Re: [Hardhats-members] GT.M for Alpha/AXP available at Source Forge

2005-10-22 Thread Joseph Dal Molin
dead as a product for HPbut just think of all those hospitals 
out there that can pick up an enterprise server on eBay for the price of 
a PC or less


Chuck Norem wrote:

On 10/21/05, Richard Schilling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


if you surveyed everyone at the village pub on a Saturday night, a
decent percentage of them would have their monies at the tender mercies
of a GT.M database.


... you might see me there, too crying in my beer about the demise of
DEC - I had high hopes for the Digital architecture which was years
ahead of its time in the 1980's/1990's.

I hope HP keeps that architecture alive.

Richard Schilling




I believe it's already dead, with the 1.6 GHz EV7z being the final version.


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