Re: [Hardhats-members] Lab interface questions... LSI?
Yes. And I guess my question is, where do I go to learn about this. I was just looking at the most recent documentation available from the VA library website. Kevin --- Gregory Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That was 10 years ago. Don't you think you'd be better off looking at what is available and widely used today, and then coding to it? === Gregory Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is foolish to answer a question that you do not understand. --G. Polya (How to Solve It) On Jul 24, 2005, at 8:46 PM, Kevin Toppenberg wrote: I would like to get our VistA interfaced with our lab. I have been reading the Lab technical manual (Lab5_2tm.pdf). It looks like it is designed for the various pieces of lab equipment to be connected to the computer through a LSI device--a data concentrator. These initials aren't defined. At one point, it appears that the device is actually a General Digital GDC 2100 Data Concentrator. This manual is from 1994. Is such a card even still available? Any advice about how to go about learning about lab interfacing in VistA? Thanks Kevin --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
RE: [Hardhats-members] Lab interface questions... LSI?
Our current lab equipment is connected to a computer provided with the equipment. This computer keeps track of results etc. So if I were to try to interface this with VistA, I would either have to see if that computer can send out results somehow (i.e. HL7), or take that computer out of the loop. Sounds like a Herculean job that I would be performing in the dark. Kevin --- Cameron Schlehuber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are some commercial tools (basically, specialized Interface Engines) that VA currently uses. If folks haven't responded with the make and models used in VA by Monday, I'll try to get the information to post. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gregory Woodhouse Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2005 9:02 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Lab interface questions... LSI? That was 10 years ago. Don't you think you'd be better off looking at what is available and widely used today, and then coding to it? === Gregory Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is foolish to answer a question that you do not understand. --G. Polya (How to Solve It) On Jul 24, 2005, at 8:46 PM, Kevin Toppenberg wrote: I would like to get our VistA interfaced with our lab. I have been reading the Lab technical manual (Lab5_2tm.pdf). It looks like it is designed for the various pieces of lab equipment to be connected to the computer through a LSI device--a data concentrator. These initials aren't defined. At one point, it appears that the device is actually a General Digital GDC 2100 Data Concentrator. This manual is from 1994. Is such a card even still available? Any advice about how to go about learning about lab interfacing in VistA? Thanks Kevin --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idt77alloc_id492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Lab interface questions... LSI?
Why Herculean? is there any documentation for the interfaces it supports? === Gregory Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] The most incomprehensible thing about the world is that it is at all comprehensible. --Albert Einstein (1879-1955) On Jul 25, 2005, at 5:57 AM, Kevin Toppenberg wrote: Sounds like a Herculean job that I would be performing in the dark. --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Lab interface questions... LSI?
Duh, I hadn't thought of that. I'll try to pull the manuals that come with the machine. Kevin --- Gregory Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why Herculean? is there any documentation for the interfaces it supports? === Gregory Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] The most incomprehensible thing about the world is that it is at all comprehensible. --Albert Einstein (1879-1955) On Jul 25, 2005, at 5:57 AM, Kevin Toppenberg wrote: Sounds like a Herculean job that I would be performing in the dark. --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Lab interface questions... LSI?
It's not necessarily easy to develop an interface, but specifications are a good thing. --- Kevin Toppenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Duh, I hadn't thought of that. I'll try to pull the manuals that come with the machine. Kevin === Gregory Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] Design quality doesn't ensure success, but design failure can ensure failure. --Kent Beck --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
RE: [Hardhats-members] Lab interface questions... LSI?
The Lab module conceptual content requirements are key to understanding how it can be compared with other LISs in the market and how both classes can be used by the VistA EHR functionality. Efforts are being made to identify VA individuals involved with Lab Module re-engineering to be involved in dveloping this line of effort. Issues of Point-of-Care-Testing (POCT in the lab community) integration into the EHR support of the Basic Care Scenario are important. We should shoot for presentation of this topic at Fall VCM. The Amer Assoc for Clin Chem, whose national office is in DC, should be involved with this program; today 25 July the AACC Lab Informatin Systems Medical Informtics Div is sponsoring David W Bates of BWH in Boston speaking on this issue at its Annual meeting in Orlando FL. At its 2004 Annual meting Dr Robert Dufour of the Washington DC MC presented VistA and demonstrated the Lab functions; his potential availability should be explored in planning this program so that both the Supplier as well as the Practitioner perspectives are addressed. The VA Lab module capabilities provide the full range of capabilities needed by the lab. A WV specific project team as well as an educational issue WG could be involved in designing the agenda need for maximum benefit for the two complementray audiences. I guess we will need to hear back from the WV on how to proceed with such a program as well as from those on the HH lsit who would be interested in participating in such a program; I offer to work with those in WV who are interestd in such a program. On Sun, 24 Jul 2005, Cameron Schlehuber wrote: There are some commercial tools (basically, specialized Interface Engines) that VA currently uses. If folks haven't responded with the make and models used in VA by Monday, I'll try to get the information to post. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gregory Woodhouse Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2005 9:02 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Lab interface questions... LSI? That was 10 years ago. Don't you think you'd be better off looking at what is available and widely used today, and then coding to it? === Gregory Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is foolish to answer a question that you do not understand. --G. Polya (How to Solve It) On Jul 24, 2005, at 8:46 PM, Kevin Toppenberg wrote: I would like to get our VistA interfaced with our lab. I have been reading the Lab technical manual (Lab5_2tm.pdf). It looks like it is designed for the various pieces of lab equipment to be connected to the computer through a LSI device--a data concentrator. These initials aren't defined. At one point, it appears that the device is actually a General Digital GDC 2100 Data Concentrator. This manual is from 1994. Is such a card even still available? Any advice about how to go about learning about lab interfacing in VistA? Thanks Kevin --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idt77alloc_id492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Lab interface questions... LSI?
1. The LSI (Lab Systems Integrator, for the curious) wasn't a card - it was a black box multiplexer that allowed up to 8 lab devices to share concentrated serial communications through a single serial port on the server computer system. 2. General Digital stopped manufacturing the LSIs circa 1998, so feel free to ignore anything you read about them - production-wise, they no longer exist. 3. If you're still requiring serial communications interface capability, you might take a look at Data Innovations ( http://www.datainnovations.com/) - their Instrument Manager system can fill the bill pretty well, if I recall correctly. On 7/24/05 10:46 PM, Kevin Toppenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would like to get our VistA interfaced with our lab. I have been reading the Lab technical manual (Lab5_2tm.pdf). It looks like it is designed for the various pieces of lab equipment to be connected to the computer through a LSI device--a data concentrator. These initials aren't defined. At one point, it appears that the device is actually a General Digital GDC 2100 Data Concentrator. This manual is from 1994. Is such a card even still available? Any advice about how to go about learning about lab interfacing in VistA? Thanks Kevin Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Lab interface questions... LSI?
Yes, I was curious what LSI ment. Thank you. Its nice to know when to not read a difficult manual. :-) Very helpful... Kevin --- Floyd Dennis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1. The LSI (Lab Systems Integrator, for the curious) wasn't a card - it was a black box multiplexer that allowed up to 8 lab devices to share concentrated serial communications through a single serial port on the server computer system. 2. General Digital stopped manufacturing the LSIs circa 1998, so feel free to ignore anything you read about them - production-wise, they no longer exist. 3. If you're still requiring serial communications interface capability, you might take a look at Data Innovations ( http://www.datainnovations.com/) - their Instrument Manager system can fill the bill pretty well, if I recall correctly. On 7/24/05 10:46 PM, Kevin Toppenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would like to get our VistA interfaced with our lab. I have been reading the Lab technical manual (Lab5_2tm.pdf). It looks like it is designed for the various pieces of lab equipment to be connected to the computer through a LSI device--a data concentrator. These initials aren't defined. At one point, it appears that the device is actually a General Digital GDC 2100 Data Concentrator. This manual is from 1994. Is such a card even still available? Any advice about how to go about learning about lab interfacing in VistA? Thanks Kevin Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
[Hardhats-members] Lab interface questions... LSI?
I would like to get our VistA interfaced with our lab. I have been reading the Lab technical manual (Lab5_2tm.pdf). It looks like it is designed for the various pieces of lab equipment to be connected to the computer through a LSI device--a data concentrator. These initials aren't defined. At one point, it appears that the device is actually a General Digital GDC 2100 Data Concentrator. This manual is from 1994. Is such a card even still available? Any advice about how to go about learning about lab interfacing in VistA? Thanks Kevin Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Lab interface questions... LSI?
That was 10 years ago. Don't you think you'd be better off looking at what is available and widely used today, and then coding to it? === Gregory Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is foolish to answer a question that you do not understand. --G. Polya (How to Solve It) On Jul 24, 2005, at 8:46 PM, Kevin Toppenberg wrote: I would like to get our VistA interfaced with our lab. I have been reading the Lab technical manual (Lab5_2tm.pdf). It looks like it is designed for the various pieces of lab equipment to be connected to the computer through a LSI device--a data concentrator. These initials aren't defined. At one point, it appears that the device is actually a General Digital GDC 2100 Data Concentrator. This manual is from 1994. Is such a card even still available? Any advice about how to go about learning about lab interfacing in VistA? Thanks Kevin --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
RE: [Hardhats-members] Lab interface questions... LSI?
There are some commercial tools (basically, specialized Interface Engines) that VA currently uses. If folks haven't responded with the make and models used in VA by Monday, I'll try to get the information to post. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gregory Woodhouse Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2005 9:02 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Lab interface questions... LSI? That was 10 years ago. Don't you think you'd be better off looking at what is available and widely used today, and then coding to it? === Gregory Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is foolish to answer a question that you do not understand. --G. Polya (How to Solve It) On Jul 24, 2005, at 8:46 PM, Kevin Toppenberg wrote: I would like to get our VistA interfaced with our lab. I have been reading the Lab technical manual (Lab5_2tm.pdf). It looks like it is designed for the various pieces of lab equipment to be connected to the computer through a LSI device--a data concentrator. These initials aren't defined. At one point, it appears that the device is actually a General Digital GDC 2100 Data Concentrator. This manual is from 1994. Is such a card even still available? Any advice about how to go about learning about lab interfacing in VistA? Thanks Kevin --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idt77alloc_id492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Lab interface questions... LSI?
If you are talking about lab interfaces to instruments, the VA mostly uses concentrators from Data Innovations and Dawning Technologies. These are PC-based systems. DI uses Cache; I don't know what Dawning uses. Prior to using these interface engines, lots of interfaces were written directly for VistA. Last I knew, they were still part of the FOIA release, but I wouldn't expect to find anything for newer instruments. Often, when lab interface is mentioned, you are talking about a whole different thing. The issue may about interfacing lab orders and results with another system -- like a physician office system -- ie, any place that orders labs. - Original Message - From: Cameron Schlehuber [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2005 11:13 PM Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] Lab interface questions... LSI? There are some commercial tools (basically, specialized Interface Engines) that VA currently uses. If folks haven't responded with the make and models used in VA by Monday, I'll try to get the information to post. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gregory Woodhouse Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2005 9:02 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Lab interface questions... LSI? That was 10 years ago. Don't you think you'd be better off looking at what is available and widely used today, and then coding to it? === Gregory Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is foolish to answer a question that you do not understand. --G. Polya (How to Solve It) On Jul 24, 2005, at 8:46 PM, Kevin Toppenberg wrote: I would like to get our VistA interfaced with our lab. I have been reading the Lab technical manual (Lab5_2tm.pdf). It looks like it is designed for the various pieces of lab equipment to be connected to the computer through a LSI device--a data concentrator. These initials aren't defined. At one point, it appears that the device is actually a General Digital GDC 2100 Data Concentrator. This manual is from 1994. Is such a card even still available? Any advice about how to go about learning about lab interfacing in VistA? Thanks Kevin --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idt77alloc_id492opÌk ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idt77alloc_id492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
