Re: [Hardhats-members] Fw: Mumps / Vista Programmer contract opportunity
I'm a M developer now learning Java and all the host of technologies similar to those mentioned in the original job posting above. I somewhat agree with the sentiment that these non-Mtechnologies out there are relatively easy to learn on a rudimentary level,BUT take a lot of experience and time to become proficient. Sometimes, my biggest problem isn't learning, it's learning the wrong things! At times, I'vespent hours or days learning some new tool or skill ortechnique, only to find that I was in the wrong paradigm! (In other words, I chose the wrong tool or technique.) On 2/21/06, Nevius, Gordon D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It might be more practical to hire two or three staff than this modernday miracle. This person would certainly be worth 150k and could walk away anytime. Single point of failure?-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED][mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of KevinToppenbergSent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 3:02 PMTo: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Fw: Mumps / Vista Programmer contractopportunityLOL!!I can't believe it.I was just about to write in the samething... and add that I thought that I, as a physician, had to learn alot to practice MY trade!KevinOn 2/20/06, Nancy Anthracite [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maury, you forgot to put in the part about walks-on-water. ;-) On Monday 20 February 2006 19:24, Maury Pepper wrote: Cross-posted from MUMPS-L ... Attn Mumps-L Group Members We are currently seeking a Mumps / Vista Programmer Analyst for the Veterans Administration in Massachusetts. Length of contract is 6 months (base year) and four (4) one year options. Start date is to beApril 1, 2006. The following is the required skills experience as well as the scope of the assignment. Skill requirements: M Programming Language; KEAScript; CACHE SQL; Perl5; ASP programming in VPScript; _javascript_; Visual InterDev; HTML; ODBC; JDBC; RDBMS; KBSQL; Adobe Photoshop; Quark Express; DOS shell script; VA File Manager; File Structure; In-depth knowledge of DICOM, PACS, Windows 2000/XP operating system internals/externals, HW and SW, Strong Management skills on Management Applications such as AD, SMS, Remedy, STAT, etc. Clear Vision applications, MS Office 2003 components. Deliverables/Terms; Develop Windows 2000/XP system maintenance remote installation/upgrade tools, Web applications, user friendly software installation packages, publish monthly newsletter, maintain access database and provide programming support for VISTA applications withinthe context of the VA Computing Environment. Scope: The contractor shall be required to provide one on-site Programmer/Analyst with minimum of 4 years of experience needed for high level server and computer operations support, to include specialized skills to review, diagnose and immediately resolve problems that cause data delivery issues, this will include server, network and end user equipment. Provide immediate problem resolution involving in-depth knowledge with demonstrated accomplishments in the integration of DICOM compatible medical equipment with particularexpertise in PACS and other medical imaging devices. Provide MUMPS programming language support, administration of Microsoft SharePoint server and services, Microsoft Terminal Server administration. Exchange Server Management, Configure and Perform Server Backups, in-depth knowledge of building servers, desktops and Notebooks, Personal Web Server Administration. Develop and maintain utilities that meet periodic requirements of local and regional management to deploy mandated initiatives adhering to strict target dates. Configure and Deploy new software, software updates, software tools, administrative management tools, install national mandated software upgrades to our Health Care Computing System and debug existing MUMPSprograms, applications and operating system issues. Act as the facility Web Master within the VA Computing Environment, create and use Automation Utilities, Database Applications, Web Applications, Software Installation packages to accomplish remoteinstallations. To be considered please contact at your earliest convenience. Robin Marsh Palladian Consulting 800-750-1777 [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems?Stop!Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing theweb.DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=1216 42 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members -- Nancy Anthracite --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems?Stop!Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching
RE: [Hardhats-members] Fw: Mumps / Vista Programmer contract opportunity
Frankly, a 6 month contract would never requirethe miracle-worker specified. It would take someone who does not suffer from ADS and is really good at getting the job done. I did notice the start date was April 1. Maybe the laugh was intended. John Clemens IT Specialist, Software IRMS Veterans Affairs Medical Center (662) 4150 Clement Street San Francisco, CA 94121 Phone: 415.221.4810 x4540 (Tu,Wed,Thu) Cell phone Mon and Fri (7:30-4:00 Pacific) 650.464.7585 Digital Pager:415.303.0388 ( Mon,Fri) Fax: 415.750.2177 [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry AndreassenSent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 7:05 AMTo: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.netSubject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Fw: Mumps / Vista Programmer contract opportunity I'm a M developer now learning Java and all the host of technologies similar to those mentioned in the original job posting above. I somewhat agree with the sentiment that these non-Mtechnologies "out there" are relatively easy to learn on a rudimentary level,BUT take a lot of experience and time to become proficient. Sometimes, my biggest problem isn't learning, it's learning the wrong things! At times, I'vespent hours or days learning some new tool or skill ortechnique, only to find that I was in the wrong paradigm! (In other words, I chose the wrong tool or technique.) On 2/21/06, Nevius, Gordon D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It might be more practical to hire two or three staff than this modernday miracle. This person would certainly be worth 150k and could walk away anytime. Single point of failure?-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED][mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of KevinToppenbergSent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 3:02 PMTo: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Fw: Mumps / Vista Programmer contractopportunityLOL!!I can't believe it.I was just about to write in the samething... and add that I thought that I, as a physician, had to learn alot to practice MY trade!KevinOn 2/20/06, Nancy Anthracite [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maury, you forgot to put in the part about "walks-on-water". ;-) On Monday 20 February 2006 19:24, Maury Pepper wrote: Cross-posted from MUMPS-L ... Attn Mumps-L Group Members We are currently seeking a Mumps / Vista Programmer Analyst for the Veterans Administration in Massachusetts. Length of contract is 6 months (base year) and four (4) one year options. Start date is to beApril 1, 2006. The following is the required skills experience as well as the scope of the assignment. Skill requirements: M Programming Language; KEAScript; CACHE SQL; Perl5; ASP programming in VPScript; _javascript_; Visual InterDev; HTML; ODBC; JDBC; RDBMS; KBSQL; Adobe Photoshop; Quark Express; DOS shell script; VA File Manager; File Structure; In-depth knowledge of DICOM, PACS, Windows 2000/XP operating system internals/externals, HW and SW, Strong Management skills on Management Applications such as AD, SMS, Remedy, STAT, etc. Clear Vision applications, MS Office 2003 components. Deliverables/Terms; Develop Windows 2000/XP system maintenance remote installation/upgrade tools, Web applications, user friendly software installation packages, publish monthly newsletter, maintain access database and provide programming support for VISTA applications withinthe context of the VA Computing Environment. Scope: The contractor shall be required to provide one on-site Programmer/Analyst with minimum of 4 years of experience needed for high level server and computer operations support, to include specialized skills to review, diagnose and immediately resolve problems that cause data delivery issues, this will include server, network and end user equipment. Provide immediate problem resolution involving in-depth knowledge with demonstrated accomplishments in the integration of DICOM compatible medical equipment with particularexpertise in PACS and other medical imaging devices. Provide MUMPS programming language support, administration of Microsoft SharePoint server and services, Microsoft Terminal Server administration. Exchange Server Management, Configure and Perform Server Backups, in-depth knowledge of building servers, desktops and Notebooks, Personal Web Server Administration. Develop and maintain utilities that meet periodic requirements of local and regional management to deploy mandated initiatives adhering to strict target dates. Configure and Deploy new software, software updates, software tools, administrative management tools, install national mandated software upgrades to our Health Care Computing System and debug existing MUMPSprograms, applications and operating system issues. Act as the facility Web Master within the VA Computing Environment, create and use
Re: [Hardhats-members] Fw: Mumps / Vista Programmer contract opportunity
--- Larry Andreassen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm a M developer now learning Java and all the host of technologies similar to those mentioned in the original job posting above. I somewhat agree with the sentiment that these non-M technologies out there are relatively easy to learn on a rudimentary level, BUT take a lot of experience and time to become proficient. That reminds me of my (mis)adventures learning Scheme and Haskell (I'm using Scheme for my compiler project, BTW). It took little time to start writing some fairly interesting code, and not that much longer to feel like I was actually getting pretty good at it. But then as soon as I started sharing my code with experienced developers, the reaction was something along the lines of What is that?! Believe me, I understand that learning a new language well enough to be proficient with it is no easy task. It IS, however, something I expect us to be able to do. More to the point, though, I believe that the way we tend to focus on specific technologies tends to lead us t undervalue basic programming skills (and, yes, theoretical knowledge). I still believe a solid understanding of computer science is a more valuable asset than facility with any particular tool -- even if this is not generally appreciated in the industry. One other thought: There is a Scheme (and computer science) text called How to Design Programs. One thing I found rather striking is that it has sections called finger exercises. I believe developing facility with a language is much like learning to play a musical instrument. among other things, that means it's a LOT of work. But learning to play at an instrument doesn't make you a musician. Composers who do not play one or more instruments are all but unheard of, but playing an instrument doesn't make you a composer. We need composers. === Gregory Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] All truth passes through three stages: First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. --Arthur Schopenhauer --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Fw: Mumps / Vista Programmer contract opportunity
LOL!! I can't believe it. I was just about to write in the same thing... and add that I thought that I, as a physician, had to learn alot to practice MY trade! Kevin On 2/20/06, Nancy Anthracite [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maury, you forgot to put in the part about walks-on-water. ;-) On Monday 20 February 2006 19:24, Maury Pepper wrote: Cross-posted from MUMPS-L ... Attn Mumps-L Group Members We are currently seeking a Mumps / Vista Programmer Analyst for the Veterans Administration in Massachusetts. Length of contract is 6 months (base year) and four (4) one year options. Start date is to be April 1, 2006. The following is the required skills experience as well as the scope of the assignment. Skill requirements: M Programming Language; KEAScript; CACHE SQL; Perl5; ASP programming in VPScript; JavaScript; Visual InterDev; HTML; ODBC; JDBC; RDBMS; KBSQL; Adobe Photoshop; Quark Express; DOS shell script; VA File Manager; File Structure; In-depth knowledge of DICOM, PACS, Windows 2000/XP operating system internals/externals, HW and SW, Strong Management skills on Management Applications such as AD, SMS, Remedy, STAT, etc. Clear Vision applications, MS Office 2003 components. Deliverables/Terms; Develop Windows 2000/XP system maintenance remote installation/upgrade tools, Web applications, user friendly software installation packages, publish monthly newsletter, maintain access database and provide programming support for VISTA applications within the context of the VA Computing Environment. Scope: The contractor shall be required to provide one on-site Programmer/Analyst with minimum of 4 years of experience needed for high level server and computer operations support, to include specialized skills to review, diagnose and immediately resolve problems that cause data delivery issues, this will include server, network and end user equipment. Provide immediate problem resolution involving in-depth knowledge with demonstrated accomplishments in the integration of DICOM compatible medical equipment with particular expertise in PACS and other medical imaging devices. Provide MUMPS programming language support, administration of Microsoft SharePoint server and services, Microsoft Terminal Server administration. Exchange Server Management, Configure and Perform Server Backups, in-depth knowledge of building servers, desktops and Notebooks, Personal Web Server Administration. Develop and maintain utilities that meet periodic requirements of local and regional management to deploy mandated initiatives adhering to strict target dates. Configure and Deploy new software, software updates, software tools, administrative management tools, install national mandated software upgrades to our Health Care Computing System and debug existing MUMPS programs, applications and operating system issues. Act as the facility Web Master within the VA Computing Environment, create and use Automation Utilities, Database Applications, Web Applications, Software Installation packages to accomplish remote installations. To be considered please contact at your earliest convenience. Robin Marsh Palladian Consulting 800-750-1777 [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members -- Nancy Anthracite --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid3432bid#0486dat1642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Fw: Mumps / Vista Programmer contract opportunity
--- Kevin Toppenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LOL!! I can't believe it. I was just about to write in the same thing... and add that I thought that I, as a physician, had to learn alot to practice MY trade! Kevin You have heard the phrase fully buzzword compliant, haven't you? Actually, it's not really that bad. Most experienced developers coule pick up those technologies quickly enough. The problem is that, as an industry, we've become too technology-centric. In my opinion, we'd be better off looking for people with a good solid understanding of computer engineering, and a willingness to continue to develop their skills. Trying to find candidates with exactly the skill set you want/need is a kind of instant gratification, and one that I think ultimately proves detrimental when you start passing up talented people who could actually contribute more to your organization in the long run. To be blunt about it: Anyone can learn MUMPS, SQL, Java, C, or what have you, but not just anyone will have the talent, discipline, insight and, yes, creativity it takes to be a first class developer. === Gregory Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] All truth passes through three stages: First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. --Arthur Schopenhauer --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Fw: Mumps / Vista Programmer contract opportunity
Greg, I would beg to disagree with you. Perhaps I would not disagree with you if you had said, Most experienced developers could pick up MOST OF those technologies quickly enough. I might not disagree. I have been programming for 37 years and I do not know what a lot of those technologies are, so I do not know how easy or difficult they would be to pick up. I also do not know how skilled they expect people to be to qualify as having the skill. If having Adobe Photoshop as a skill merely means being able to open the program, open a jpeg image, apply some goofy filter to the image, and resave the image as a jpeg again then I would agree that most developers could do that fairly quickly. However, I would really say that being good with Photoshop is not something you can pick up quickly. It really requires a different skill set than most developers have already mastered. Quark Express is also a different ball of wax. Without breaking my arm I can say that I am pretty good with Photoshop. I have tried to use Quark Express's closest competitor Adobe InDesign and have not figured it out yet. I will bet they expect the contractor to put out that first montly newsletter using Quark Express. Jim Gray - Original Message - From: Greg Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 4:51 PM Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Fw: Mumps / Vista Programmer contract opportunity --- Kevin Toppenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LOL!! I can't believe it. I was just about to write in the same thing... and add that I thought that I, as a physician, had to learn alot to practice MY trade! Kevin You have heard the phrase fully buzzword compliant, haven't you? Actually, it's not really that bad. Most experienced developers coule pick up those technologies quickly enough. The problem is that, as an industry, we've become too technology-centric. In my opinion, we'd be better off looking for people with a good solid understanding of computer engineering, and a willingness to continue to develop their skills. Trying to find candidates with exactly the skill set you want/need is a kind of instant gratification, and one that I think ultimately proves detrimental when you start passing up talented people who could actually contribute more to your organization in the long run. To be blunt about it: Anyone can learn MUMPS, SQL, Java, C, or what have you, but not just anyone will have the talent, discipline, insight and, yes, creativity it takes to be a first class developer. === Gregory Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] All truth passes through three stages: First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. --Arthur Schopenhauer --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Fw: Mumps / Vista Programmer contract opportunity
Kevin Toppenberg wrote: LOL!! I can't believe it. I was just about to write in the same thing... and add that I thought that I, as a physician, had to learn alot to practice MY trade! Well, you have a point here. VistA has 20-30+ years of code behind it (by a lot of people) and even though a person may be an expert in the general technology areas listed in the description, it can take a person years to get acquainted with the entire VistA codebase. I'm not a doctor but I would imagine it's like learning all the protocols in every country for treating a particular disease. You might have the scientific knowledge, but learning how it's routinely treated might take a while. I did notice, too that while the list of technical skills is extensive in this job description, the scope of work required for a given skill might not require the use of a lot of depth in that skill. This is a jack/jill-'o-trades position. Wouldn't be surprised if there was already someone fingered for this job. Richard Schilling Cognition Group, Inc. Seattle, WA Kevin On 2/20/06, Nancy Anthracite [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maury, you forgot to put in the part about walks-on-water. ;-) On Monday 20 February 2006 19:24, Maury Pepper wrote: Cross-posted from MUMPS-L ... Attn Mumps-L Group Members We are currently seeking a Mumps / Vista Programmer Analyst for the Veterans Administration in Massachusetts. Length of contract is 6 months (base year) and four (4) one year options. Start date is to be April 1, 2006. The following is the required skills experience as well as the scope of the assignment. Skill requirements: M Programming Language; KEAScript; CACHE SQL; Perl5; ASP programming in VPScript; JavaScript; Visual InterDev; HTML; ODBC; JDBC; RDBMS; KBSQL; Adobe Photoshop; Quark Express; DOS shell script; VA File Manager; File Structure; In-depth knowledge of DICOM, PACS, Windows 2000/XP operating system internals/externals, HW and SW, Strong Management skills on Management Applications such as AD, SMS, Remedy, STAT, etc. Clear Vision applications, MS Office 2003 components. Deliverables/Terms; Develop Windows 2000/XP system maintenance remote installation/upgrade tools, Web applications, user friendly software installation packages, publish monthly newsletter, maintain access database and provide programming support for VISTA applications within the context of the VA Computing Environment. Scope: The contractor shall be required to provide one on-site Programmer/Analyst with minimum of 4 years of experience needed for high level server and computer operations support, to include specialized skills to review, diagnose and immediately resolve problems that cause data delivery issues, this will include server, network and end user equipment. Provide immediate problem resolution involving in-depth knowledge with demonstrated accomplishments in the integration of DICOM compatible medical equipment with particular expertise in PACS and other medical imaging devices. Provide MUMPS programming language support, administration of Microsoft SharePoint server and services, Microsoft Terminal Server administration. Exchange Server Management, Configure and Perform Server Backups, in-depth knowledge of building servers, desktops and Notebooks, Personal Web Server Administration. Develop and maintain utilities that meet periodic requirements of local and regional management to deploy mandated initiatives adhering to strict target dates. Configure and Deploy new software, software updates, software tools, administrative management tools, install national mandated software upgrades to our Health Care Computing System and debug existing MUMPS programs, applications and operating system issues. Act as the facility Web Master within the VA Computing Environment, create and use Automation Utilities, Database Applications, Web Applications, Software Installation packages to accomplish remote installations. To be considered please contact at your earliest convenience. Robin Marsh Palladian Consulting 800-750-1777 [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members -- Nancy Anthracite --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642
Re: [Hardhats-members] Fw: Mumps / Vista Programmer contract opportunity
On Feb 21, 2006, at 4:25 PM, James Gray wrote: Greg, I would beg to disagree with you. Perhaps I would not disagree with you if you had said, Most experienced developers could pick up MOST OF those technologies quickly enough. I might not disagree. I have been programming for 37 years and I do not know what a lot of those technologies are, so I do not know how easy or difficult they would be to pick up. I also do not know how skilled they expect people to be to qualify as having the skill. If having Adobe Photoshop as a skill merely means being able to open the program, open a jpeg image, apply some goofy filter to the image, and resave the image as a jpeg again then I would agree that most developers could do that fairly quickly. However, I would really say that being good with Photoshop is not something you can pick up quickly. It really requires a different skill set than most developers have already mastered. Quark Express is also a different ball of wax. Without breaking my arm I can say that I am pretty good with Photoshop. I have tried to use Quark Express's closest competitor Adobe InDesign and have not figured it out yet. I will bet they expect the contractor to put out that first montly newsletter using Quark Express. Jim Gray Okay, I grant you that I did indulge in a bit of hyperbole here, but I think the point is still a valid one. It isn't all that uncommon to encounter people who know MUMPS (or Java) well enough to write code, and maybe even do a decent job of it, but who really tend to rather mechanical and rigid, and end up feeling rather lost when confronted with a problem they've never seen before. Another issue is that many people write code that works (initially), but which is fragile and difficult to maintain or extend. I don't mean to imply that knowing a lot of theory will make a person into a good practitioner, but it has certainly been my experience that software development tends to be hampered by poor understanding of the principles involved. This de- professionalization of software development (some would say de- skilling) is only exacerbated by our tendency to focus on specific languages, frameworks and tools. It's as if though we expect people to learn to write by studying a dictionary. === Gregory Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] Computer science is no more about computers than astronomy is about telescopes. -- Edsger Dijkstra --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
RE: [Hardhats-members] Fw: Mumps / Vista Programmer contract opportunity
It might be more practical to hire two or three staff than this modern day miracle. This person would certainly be worth 150k and could walk away anytime. Single point of failure? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Toppenberg Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 3:02 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Fw: Mumps / Vista Programmer contract opportunity LOL!! I can't believe it. I was just about to write in the same thing... and add that I thought that I, as a physician, had to learn alot to practice MY trade! Kevin On 2/20/06, Nancy Anthracite [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maury, you forgot to put in the part about walks-on-water. ;-) On Monday 20 February 2006 19:24, Maury Pepper wrote: Cross-posted from MUMPS-L ... Attn Mumps-L Group Members We are currently seeking a Mumps / Vista Programmer Analyst for the Veterans Administration in Massachusetts. Length of contract is 6 months (base year) and four (4) one year options. Start date is to be April 1, 2006. The following is the required skills experience as well as the scope of the assignment. Skill requirements: M Programming Language; KEAScript; CACHE SQL; Perl5; ASP programming in VPScript; JavaScript; Visual InterDev; HTML; ODBC; JDBC; RDBMS; KBSQL; Adobe Photoshop; Quark Express; DOS shell script; VA File Manager; File Structure; In-depth knowledge of DICOM, PACS, Windows 2000/XP operating system internals/externals, HW and SW, Strong Management skills on Management Applications such as AD, SMS, Remedy, STAT, etc. Clear Vision applications, MS Office 2003 components. Deliverables/Terms; Develop Windows 2000/XP system maintenance remote installation/upgrade tools, Web applications, user friendly software installation packages, publish monthly newsletter, maintain access database and provide programming support for VISTA applications within the context of the VA Computing Environment. Scope: The contractor shall be required to provide one on-site Programmer/Analyst with minimum of 4 years of experience needed for high level server and computer operations support, to include specialized skills to review, diagnose and immediately resolve problems that cause data delivery issues, this will include server, network and end user equipment. Provide immediate problem resolution involving in-depth knowledge with demonstrated accomplishments in the integration of DICOM compatible medical equipment with particular expertise in PACS and other medical imaging devices. Provide MUMPS programming language support, administration of Microsoft SharePoint server and services, Microsoft Terminal Server administration. Exchange Server Management, Configure and Perform Server Backups, in-depth knowledge of building servers, desktops and Notebooks, Personal Web Server Administration. Develop and maintain utilities that meet periodic requirements of local and regional management to deploy mandated initiatives adhering to strict target dates. Configure and Deploy new software, software updates, software tools, administrative management tools, install national mandated software upgrades to our Health Care Computing System and debug existing MUMPS programs, applications and operating system issues. Act as the facility Web Master within the VA Computing Environment, create and use Automation Utilities, Database Applications, Web Applications, Software Installation packages to accomplish remote installations. To be considered please contact at your earliest convenience. Robin Marsh Palladian Consulting 800-750-1777 [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=1216 42 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members -- Nancy Anthracite --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=1216 42 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search
Re: [Hardhats-members] Fw: Mumps / Vista Programmer contract opportunity
Maury, you forgot to put in the part about walks-on-water. ;-) On Monday 20 February 2006 19:24, Maury Pepper wrote: Cross-posted from MUMPS-L ... Attn Mumps-L Group Members We are currently seeking a Mumps / Vista Programmer Analyst for the Veterans Administration in Massachusetts. Length of contract is 6 months (base year) and four (4) one year options. Start date is to be April 1, 2006. The following is the required skills experience as well as the scope of the assignment. Skill requirements: M Programming Language; KEAScript; CACHE SQL; Perl5; ASP programming in VPScript; JavaScript; Visual InterDev; HTML; ODBC; JDBC; RDBMS; KBSQL; Adobe Photoshop; Quark Express; DOS shell script; VA File Manager; File Structure; In-depth knowledge of DICOM, PACS, Windows 2000/XP operating system internals/externals, HW and SW, Strong Management skills on Management Applications such as AD, SMS, Remedy, STAT, etc. Clear Vision applications, MS Office 2003 components. Deliverables/Terms; Develop Windows 2000/XP system maintenance remote installation/upgrade tools, Web applications, user friendly software installation packages, publish monthly newsletter, maintain access database and provide programming support for VISTA applications within the context of the VA Computing Environment. Scope: The contractor shall be required to provide one on-site Programmer/Analyst with minimum of 4 years of experience needed for high level server and computer operations support, to include specialized skills to review, diagnose and immediately resolve problems that cause data delivery issues, this will include server, network and end user equipment. Provide immediate problem resolution involving in-depth knowledge with demonstrated accomplishments in the integration of DICOM compatible medical equipment with particular expertise in PACS and other medical imaging devices. Provide MUMPS programming language support, administration of Microsoft SharePoint server and services, Microsoft Terminal Server administration. Exchange Server Management, Configure and Perform Server Backups, in-depth knowledge of building servers, desktops and Notebooks, Personal Web Server Administration. Develop and maintain utilities that meet periodic requirements of local and regional management to deploy mandated initiatives adhering to strict target dates. Configure and Deploy new software, software updates, software tools, administrative management tools, install national mandated software upgrades to our Health Care Computing System and debug existing MUMPS programs, applications and operating system issues. Act as the facility Web Master within the VA Computing Environment, create and use Automation Utilities, Database Applications, Web Applications, Software Installation packages to accomplish remote installations. To be considered please contact at your earliest convenience. Robin Marsh Palladian Consulting 800-750-1777 [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members -- Nancy Anthracite --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
