Re: [Hardhats-members] Spanish?

2006-07-05 Thread Greg Woodhouse 


--- Chris Richardson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Steve;
> 
>My code replaces the existing strings in the routines with a call
> to George's Dialog Call with the IEN for the entry with the extracted
> string.  This instrumented code gets created in a parallel file which
> can be tested for actual completeness.  My converter works across all
> of the VistA code at one time and cross-indexes the routine and the
> location that it came from.

That's an intriguing approach. There are obviously limits to what we
can do with static analysis, but it sure could give us a big head start
on the problem.
> 
>You are correct that there needs to be more work done by someone. 
> The VA has spent much more than it would take just to do Spanish
> Pharmacy Lables.  Too bad. 
>

What about future development? We don't talk about it much, but I
imagine that the adoption of VistA will lead to the development of many
new packages or expansion/revision of existing ones. I woner if anyone
has set down guidelines for developing code in an I18N-friendly way.

===
Gregory Woodhouse  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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Re: [Hardhats-members] Spanish?

2006-07-04 Thread Chris Richardson 



Steve;
 
   My code replaces the existing strings 
in the routines with a call to George's Dialog Call with the IEN for the entry 
with the extracted string.  This instrumented code gets created in a 
parallel file which can be tested for actual completeness.  My converter 
works across all of the VistA code at one time and cross-indexes the routine and 
the location that it came from.
 
   You are correct that there needs to be 
more work done by someone.  The VA has spent much more than it would take 
just to do Spanish Pharmacy Lables.  Too bad. 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Steven McPhelan 
  To: Chris Richardson ; hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 7:57 
PM
  Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] 
  Spanish?
  
  Putting text into the Dialog file is the easy part.  The more 
  difficult task (much more difficult) is converting all the existing M code to 
  use the Dialog file instead of the WRITE and SET commands.  Not only is 
  that more difficult, it requires that the programmer understands the M code 
  and its potential implications for VistA. 
   
  It would also be nice if the VA would export a supported set of Dialog 
  entries that could be used by any applications.  Currently, each 
  application must create their own Dialog entry or get an Integration Agreement 
  with the owning application to use their Dialog entry.  I think this 
  would be a necessary requirement for the "portability" of VistA.  As it 
  is now, each application would have to create their own Dialog entry for the 
  text "Select" (for an example).  
  On 7/4/06, Chris 
  Richardson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
  Ignacio;  The 
Mexicans are currently working on converting VistA to Spanish, but 
wewould hope that we might get some help with the conversion to the 
DIALOG file and other technologies to get VistA to work with many 
foreignlanguages.   Some work has been done to extract the 
literals, put them intothe DIALOG file and generates instrumented 
code.  With the populated DIALOG file and the instrumented 
code, that should be at least 80% of the job.  Theadvantage to 
this approach is that adding additional languages and having asystem 
which can host multiple languages on the same database.  The 
selection of the language is by user with a default by the KERNEL 
SITEPARAMETER file.Sorry you didn't make it to 
Pittsburgh.- Original Message -From: "Ignacio Valdes" 
< [EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: 
<hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net>Sent: 
Tuesday, July 04, 2006 4:45 PMSubject: [Hardhats-members] 
Spanish?>> Hello all,>> I received a 
request from a Linux Medical News reader from Spain> asking about a 
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Re: [Hardhats-members] Spanish?

2006-07-04 Thread Steven McPhelan 
Putting text into the Dialog file is the easy part.  The more difficult task (much more difficult) is converting all the existing M code to use the Dialog file instead of the WRITE and SET commands.  Not only is that more difficult, it requires that the programmer understands the M code and its potential implications for VistA.

 
It would also be nice if the VA would export a supported set of Dialog entries that could be used by any applications.  Currently, each application must create their own Dialog entry or get an Integration Agreement with the owning application to use their Dialog entry.  I think this would be a necessary requirement for the "portability" of VistA.  As it is now, each application would have to create their own Dialog entry for the text "Select" (for an example).
 
On 7/4/06, Chris Richardson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Ignacio;  The Mexicans are currently working on converting VistA to Spanish, but wewould hope that we might get some help with the conversion to the DIALOG
file and other technologies to get VistA to work with many foreignlanguages.   Some work has been done to extract the literals, put them intothe DIALOG file and generates instrumented code.  With the populated DIALOG
file and the instrumented code, that should be at least 80% of the job.  Theadvantage to this approach is that adding additional languages and having asystem which can host multiple languages on the same database.  The
selection of the language is by user with a default by the KERNEL SITEPARAMETER file.Sorry you didn't make it to Pittsburgh.- Original Message -From: "Ignacio Valdes" <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 4:45 PMSubject: [Hardhats-members] Spanish?
>> Hello all,>> I received a request from a Linux Medical News reader from Spain> asking about a spanish version of VistA. Does one exist or is it in> progress?>> -- IV
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Re: [Hardhats-members] Spanish?

2006-07-04 Thread Chris Richardson 
Ignacio;

   The Mexicans are currently working on converting VistA to Spanish, but we
would hope that we might get some help with the conversion to the DIALOG
file and other technologies to get VistA to work with many foreign
languages.   Some work has been done to extract the literals, put them into
the DIALOG file and generates instrumented code.  With the populated DIALOG
file and the instrumented code, that should be at least 80% of the job.  The
advantage to this approach is that adding additional languages and having a
system which can host multiple languages on the same database.  The
selection of the language is by user with a default by the KERNEL SITE
PARAMETER file.

  Sorry you didn't make it to Pittsburgh.

- Original Message -
From: "Ignacio Valdes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 4:45 PM
Subject: [Hardhats-members] Spanish?


>
> Hello all,
>
> I received a request from a Linux Medical News reader from Spain
> asking about a spanish version of VistA. Does one exist or is it in
> progress?
>
> -- IV
>
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