Re: [H] AVG/Avast ?

2005-05-04 Thread joeuser
*sigh*

Mark Dodge wrote:
Are you saying that AVG is no good? 

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Re: [H] AVG/Avast ?

2005-05-04 Thread Zulfiqar Naushad
Yes!!  and I would have to agree with him too.

On May 4, 2005, at 8:44 PM, Mark Dodge wrote:
Are you saying that AVG is no good?
Mark Dodge
MD Computers
602-421-0329
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Subject: Re: [H] AVG/Avast ?

At 10:50 AM 04/05/2005, FORC5 wrote:
found a customer running both AVG free and Avast AV
any problems with this ? seems to me ( in ancient history ) that
running two AV programs was a problem.
I've read about problems as well, but never seen them (never run in 
this
configuration.)  Of course, one could argue that since AVG isn't really
doing anything, they are only running one AV program. :)

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RE: [H] Auto-FTP program

2005-05-04 Thread W. D.
At 14:15 5/4/2005, Thane Sherrington wrote:
>At 03:12 PM 04/05/2005, Mark Dodge wrote:
>>These kinds of programs always make me wary because of possible imbedded
>>spyware. I'm not saying this one does, just that most of them do.
>
>That's true.  Guess it's time to scan.

I couldn't find anything.  I wonder how these guys make 
money.  Maybe they just like to give out good software.

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RE: [H] Auto-FTP program

2005-05-04 Thread Thane Sherrington
At 03:12 PM 04/05/2005, Mark Dodge wrote:
These kinds of programs always make me wary because of possible imbedded
spyware. I'm not saying this one does, just that most of them do.
That's true.  Guess it's time to scan.
T 

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Re: [H] AMD XP Temps (WAS -- OT: Is this on?)

2005-05-04 Thread G.Waleed Kavalec
Hey! Someday soon engaging sub-light will consist only 
of putting a load on the aft processor  ;-)

(For FTL see: quantum computing)

On 5/4/05, FORC5 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  http://tinyurl.com/4fkp3
> 
>  am I the only one that thinks hs/fans are going over the edge. like
> something from scifi :{)
>  >:-}
>  At 02:13 AM 5/4/2005, Mark Dodge Poked the stick with:
> 
>  
> Crap
>  It is the XP-120 that is the heat pipe style,,, 
> 
>  
>  Mark Dodge
>  MD Computers
>  602-421-0329 
>  -Original Message-
>  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> Mark Dodge
>  Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 2:11 AM
>  To: 'The Hardware List'
>  Subject: RE: [H] AMD XP Temps (WAS -- OT: Is this on?)
> 
>  I would think that most of the latest heat pipe styles should work as the
>  plate is small and then everything else is up high away from the caps.
>  The slk800 is one that I have been looking at.
>  http://www.frostytech.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=1280 
> 
>  
>  Mark Dodge
>  MD Computers
>  602-421-0329
>  -Original Message-
>  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> James Maki
>  Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 7:07 PM
>  To: 'The Hardware List'
>  Subject: RE: [H] AMD XP Temps (WAS -- OT: Is this on?)
> 
>  > -Original Message-
>  > From: jeff.lane
> 
>  > Just waiting for
>  >
> you...
> 
>  Okay, Item for discussion.
> 
>  I am running an AMD Athlon XP 3200+ with a Speeze HSF unit on a Gigabyte
>  GA-7NNXP board. To me, it has always run hot. It idles in the mid 50s
>  (celsius) and climbs to the low to mid 60s underload (i.e., DVD recoding).
>  IIRC, AMD recommends a max out temp of 85 C. I assume this is the "melt
>  down" temp. In the summer months, the temp can get into the mid to hi 60s.
> I
>  turn the system off till the ambient temps come down.
> 
>  Many of the hi capacity HSF won't fit on the Gigabyte board (to my
>  understanding) due to the close placement of some capacitors. 
> 
>  So, the matter for discussion is possible solutions for this temp problem.
>  Are the temps I am experiencing normal enough not to worry? Does anyone
> have
>  experience with a good HSF that works on the gigabyte board? What about
>  liquid cooling. I have seen the Kingwin AWC-1 Arctic Liquid Cooler System
>  for $86.99. Experience, comments or warnings? 
> 
>  I understand the AMD64 chips run much cooler, but do they also have a lower
>  thresh hold temp?
> 
>  Hope this gets some discussion going.
> 
>  Jim Maki
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
> 
>  -- 
>  Tallyho ! ]:8)
>  --
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>  


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RE: [H] Auto-FTP program

2005-05-04 Thread Thane Sherrington
At 02:52 PM 04/05/2005, Mesdaq, Ali wrote:
Curious what programs are you using and how exactly are you scanning
customers pc's? Are you slaving the drive or booting from cd or other
method?
I'm using NOD32, Sophos, Norton 2005 Prescan (modified), F-Prot, Trend, and 
Anti-vir.  I boot up in a PE environment (CD) and scanning from there.

T 

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RE: [H] Auto-FTP program

2005-05-04 Thread Mesdaq, Ali
So do you have to create the cd everytime for a new customer to have the
new virus definitions on it?

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Sherrington
Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 11:24 AM
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Subject: RE: [H] Auto-FTP program

At 02:52 PM 04/05/2005, Mesdaq, Ali wrote:
>Curious what programs are you using and how exactly are you scanning
>customers pc's? Are you slaving the drive or booting from cd or other
>method?

I'm using NOD32, Sophos, Norton 2005 Prescan (modified), F-Prot, Trend,
and 
Anti-vir.  I boot up in a PE environment (CD) and scanning from there.

T 

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RE: [H] Auto-FTP program

2005-05-04 Thread Mark Dodge
These kinds of programs always make me wary because of possible imbedded
spyware. I'm not saying this one does, just that most of them do. 


Mark Dodge
MD Computers
602-421-0329 
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Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 8:08 AM
To: The Hardware List
Subject: Re: [H] Auto-FTP program

At 11:48 AM 27/04/2005, W. D. wrote:
>At 08:01 4/27/2005, Thane Sherrington, wrote:
> >I'm looking for a FTP program that I can run on an hourly basis to
download
> >load a couple of files from various FTP and HTTPS sites.   I tried
> >CatFoodFTP, but it seems limited.  Anyone have any suggestions?
>
>FreeDownloadManager works great:
>http://www.FreeDownloadManager.org/

This program rocks!  Much better than the command line jobbie I wrote
myself.  Thanks for the tip.  I'm not checking for virus definition updates
every hour for five of the six programs I use - that gives me great piece of
mind when I'm scanning customers' computers.

T 

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RE: [H] AVG/Avast ?

2005-05-04 Thread Thane Sherrington
At 02:44 PM 04/05/2005, Mark Dodge wrote:
Are you saying that AVG is no good?
The free version isn't.  Yes, it'll catch some viruses.  But I've watched 
it miss virus after virus that other programs caught, so I think it tends 
to lull one into a false sense of security.

T 

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RE: [H] Auto-FTP program

2005-05-04 Thread Mesdaq, Ali
Curious what programs are you using and how exactly are you scanning
customers pc's? Are you slaving the drive or booting from cd or other
method?

-Original Message-
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Sherrington
Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 8:08 AM
To: The Hardware List
Subject: Re: [H] Auto-FTP program

At 11:48 AM 27/04/2005, W. D. wrote:
>At 08:01 4/27/2005, Thane Sherrington, wrote:
> >I'm looking for a FTP program that I can run on an hourly basis to
download
> >load a couple of files from various FTP and HTTPS sites.   I tried
> >CatFoodFTP, but it seems limited.  Anyone have any suggestions?
>
>FreeDownloadManager works great:
>http://www.FreeDownloadManager.org/

This program rocks!  Much better than the command line jobbie I wrote 
myself.  Thanks for the tip.  I'm not checking for virus definition
updates 
every hour for five of the six programs I use - that gives me great
piece 
of mind when I'm scanning customers' computers.

T 

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Re: [H] OT: Is this on?

2005-05-04 Thread G.Waleed Kavalec
I am Mr.G. Kavalec the fiduciary agent assigned
to your case. I wish to Congratulate you on your
victory, you are a lucky person to have won this
Hardware List lottery.

On 5/3/05, Ben Ruset <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> i send you this file in order to have your advise...
> 
> jeff.lane wrote:
> > Just waiting for you...
> >
> >
> >
> > - Original Message - From: "JRS" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: 
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 6:02 PM
> > Subject: [H] OT: Is this on?
> >
> >
> >> No posts for hours..  :(
> >> --
> >>
> >> JRS   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> Please remove  **X**  to reply...
> >>
> >> Facts do not cease to exist just
> >> because they are ignored.
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> No virus found in this incoming message.
> >> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
> >> Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.3 - Release Date: 5/3/2005
> >>
> >>
> >
> 


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RE: [H] AVG/Avast ?

2005-05-04 Thread Mark Dodge
Are you saying that AVG is no good? 


Mark Dodge
MD Computers
602-421-0329 
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thane Sherrington
Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 7:07 AM
To: The Hardware List
Subject: Re: [H] AVG/Avast ?

At 10:50 AM 04/05/2005, FORC5 wrote:
>found a customer running both AVG free and Avast AV
>
>any problems with this ? seems to me ( in ancient history ) that 
>running two AV programs was a problem.

I've read about problems as well, but never seen them (never run in this
configuration.)  Of course, one could argue that since AVG isn't really
doing anything, they are only running one AV program. :)

T 

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Re: [H] Auto-FTP program

2005-05-04 Thread Thane Sherrington
At 11:48 AM 27/04/2005, W. D. wrote:
At 08:01 4/27/2005, Thane Sherrington, wrote:
>I'm looking for a FTP program that I can run on an hourly basis to download
>load a couple of files from various FTP and HTTPS sites.   I tried
>CatFoodFTP, but it seems limited.  Anyone have any suggestions?
FreeDownloadManager works great:
http://www.FreeDownloadManager.org/
This program rocks!  Much better than the command line jobbie I wrote 
myself.  Thanks for the tip.  I'm not checking for virus definition updates 
every hour for five of the six programs I use - that gives me great piece 
of mind when I'm scanning customers' computers.

T 

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[H] Mouse freezing problem.

2005-05-04 Thread Bobby Heid
Hey all,

I have a MS Wireless Intellimouse Explorer (the first revision with the bad
battery life).  Lately, the mouse will freeze, that is it will not move on
the screen until I click one of the buttons.  This just started about 2
weeks ago.

Anyone have any ideas as to what may be going on?

System:
P4 3Ghz
1GB RAM
XP Pro
Geforce 4 TI4200

Thanks,
Bobby


Re: [H] AVG/Avast ?

2005-05-04 Thread Thane Sherrington
At 10:50 AM 04/05/2005, FORC5 wrote:
found a customer running both AVG free and Avast AV
any problems with this ? seems to me ( in ancient history ) that running 
two AV programs was a problem.
I've read about problems as well, but never seen them (never run in this 
configuration.)  Of course, one could argue that since AVG isn't really 
doing anything, they are only running one AV program. :)

T 

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[H] AVG/Avast ?

2005-05-04 Thread FORC5
found a customer running both AVG free and Avast AV

any problems with this ? seems to me ( in ancient history ) that running two AV 
programs was a problem.
fred


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RE: [H] AMD XP Temps (WAS -- OT: Is this on?)

2005-05-04 Thread FORC5



http://tinyurl.com/4fkp3
am I the only one that thinks hs/fans are going over the edge. like
something from scifi :{)
>:-}
At 02:13 AM 5/4/2005, Mark Dodge Poked the stick with:
Crap
It is the XP-120 that is the heat pipe style,,, 

Mark Dodge
MD Computers
602-421-0329 
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mark
Dodge
Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 2:11 AM
To: 'The Hardware List'
Subject: RE: [H] AMD XP Temps (WAS -- OT: Is this on?)
I would think that most of the latest heat pipe styles should work as
the
plate is small and then everything else is up high away from the
caps.
The slk800 is one that I have been looking at.

http://www.frostytech.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=1280 

Mark Dodge
MD Computers
602-421-0329
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of James
Maki
Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 7:07 PM
To: 'The Hardware List'
Subject: RE: [H] AMD XP Temps (WAS -- OT: Is this on?)
> -Original Message-
> From: jeff.lane
> Just waiting for
> you...
Okay, Item for discussion.
I am running an AMD Athlon XP 3200+ with a Speeze HSF unit on a
Gigabyte
GA-7NNXP board. To me, it has always run hot. It idles in the mid
50s
(celsius) and climbs to the low to mid 60s underload (i.e., DVD
recoding).
IIRC, AMD recommends a max out temp of 85 C. I assume this is the
"melt
down" temp. In the summer months, the temp can get into the mid to
hi 60s. I
turn the system off till the ambient temps come down.
Many of the hi capacity HSF won't fit on the Gigabyte board (to my
understanding) due to the close placement of some capacitors. 
So, the matter for discussion is possible solutions for this temp
problem.
Are the temps I am experiencing normal enough not to worry? Does anyone
have
experience with a good HSF that works on the gigabyte board? What
about
liquid cooling. I have seen the Kingwin AWC-1 Arctic Liquid Cooler
System
for $86.99. Experience, comments or warnings? 
I understand the AMD64 chips run much cooler, but do they also have a
lower
thresh hold temp?
Hope this gets some discussion going.
Jim Maki
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  

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RE: [H] AMD XP Temps (WAS -- OT: Is this on?)

2005-05-04 Thread Mark Dodge
Crap
It is the XP-120 that is the heat pipe style,,, 


Mark Dodge
MD Computers
602-421-0329 
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Dodge
Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 2:11 AM
To: 'The Hardware List'
Subject: RE: [H] AMD XP Temps (WAS -- OT: Is this on?)

I would think that most of the latest heat pipe styles should work as the
plate is small and then everything else is up high away from the caps.
The slk800 is one that I have been looking at.
http://www.frostytech.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=1280 


Mark Dodge
MD Computers
602-421-0329
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Maki
Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 7:07 PM
To: 'The Hardware List'
Subject: RE: [H] AMD XP Temps (WAS -- OT: Is this on?)

> -Original Message-
> From: jeff.lane

> Just waiting for
> you...

Okay, Item for discussion.

I am running an AMD Athlon XP 3200+ with a Speeze HSF unit on a Gigabyte
GA-7NNXP board. To me, it has always run hot. It idles in the mid 50s
(celsius) and climbs to the low to mid 60s underload (i.e., DVD recoding).
IIRC, AMD recommends a max out temp of 85 C. I assume this is the "melt
down" temp. In the summer months, the temp can get into the mid to hi 60s. I
turn the system off till the ambient temps come down.

Many of the hi capacity HSF won't fit on the Gigabyte board (to my
understanding) due to the close placement of some capacitors. 

So, the matter for discussion is possible solutions for this temp problem.
Are the temps I am experiencing normal enough not to worry? Does anyone have
experience with a good HSF that works on the gigabyte board? What about
liquid cooling. I have seen the Kingwin AWC-1 Arctic Liquid Cooler System
for $86.99. Experience, comments or warnings? 

I understand the AMD64 chips run much cooler, but do they also have a lower
thresh hold temp?

Hope this gets some discussion going.

Jim Maki
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  



RE: [H] AMD XP Temps (WAS -- OT: Is this on?)

2005-05-04 Thread Mark Dodge
I would think that most of the latest heat pipe styles should work as the
plate is small and then everything else is up high away from the caps.
The slk800 is one that I have been looking at.
http://www.frostytech.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=1280 


Mark Dodge
MD Computers
602-421-0329 
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Maki
Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 7:07 PM
To: 'The Hardware List'
Subject: RE: [H] AMD XP Temps (WAS -- OT: Is this on?)

> -Original Message-
> From: jeff.lane

> Just waiting for
> you...

Okay, Item for discussion.

I am running an AMD Athlon XP 3200+ with a Speeze HSF unit on a Gigabyte
GA-7NNXP board. To me, it has always run hot. It idles in the mid 50s
(celsius) and climbs to the low to mid 60s underload (i.e., DVD recoding).
IIRC, AMD recommends a max out temp of 85 C. I assume this is the "melt
down" temp. In the summer months, the temp can get into the mid to hi 60s. I
turn the system off till the ambient temps come down.

Many of the hi capacity HSF won't fit on the Gigabyte board (to my
understanding) due to the close placement of some capacitors. 

So, the matter for discussion is possible solutions for this temp problem.
Are the temps I am experiencing normal enough not to worry? Does anyone have
experience with a good HSF that works on the gigabyte board? What about
liquid cooling. I have seen the Kingwin AWC-1 Arctic Liquid Cooler System
for $86.99. Experience, comments or warnings? 

I understand the AMD64 chips run much cooler, but do they also have a lower
thresh hold temp?

Hope this gets some discussion going.

Jim Maki
[EMAIL PROTECTED]