Re: [H] FTTP

[joeuser]

I wasn't sure if you meant that or you couldn't connect to the FTP.

I don't get near that speed but I pay jack for it so it works for me. 
They just bump me up whenever they feel like.


Too tired for humor ;)


Wayne Johnson wrote:

At 02:37 AM 6/23/2005, joeuser typed:


What do you mean?



Now who is being too serious? I can't share your fiber line & get 4 + 
mps downloads.


Wasn't on another list that I had to explain your humor? ;-)


--+--
   Wayne D. Johnson
Ashland, OH, USA 44805




--
Cheers,
joeuser (still looking for the 'any' key)

Re: [H] Deleting Recycle Bin

[Wayne Johnson]

At 09:20 PM 6/23/2005, Thane Sherrington typed:
Perfect.  I clean out the temp dirs and recycle bin under WinPE before 
running an AV scan to save time.


Amen brother.


--+--
   Wayne D. Johnson
Ashland, OH, USA 44805
 

Re: [H] Deleting Recycle Bin

[jeff.lane]

Chris,

CCleaner, http://www.ccleaner.com, will do all you want and a lot more. I 
use it many times a day to clean up any garbage collected while browsing.


Jeff

- Original Message - 
From: "Chris Reeves" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "'The Hardware List'" 
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 7:19 PM
Subject: RE: [H] Deleting Recycle Bin



Yep.  Same here.  I rd /s "Temporary Internet Files" under each user
accounts (C:\Documents and Settings\%User Account%\Local Settings\), \TEMP
directory under windows, Recycler.. and sometimes (gasp) the System Volume
folder (ie, System Restore) if they were virus infected.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thane Sherrington
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 8:20 PM
To: The Hardware List
Subject: Re: [H] Deleting Recycle Bin

At 10:10 PM 23/06/2005, CW wrote:

No danger.  It will recreate itself almost instantly, just as empty.. I do
this often with Windows TEMP directories..


Perfect.  I clean out the temp dirs and recycle bin under WinPE before
running an AV scan to save time.

T

RE: [H] Deleting Recycle Bin

[Chris Reeves]

Yep.  Same here.  I rd /s "Temporary Internet Files" under each user
accounts (C:\Documents and Settings\%User Account%\Local Settings\), \TEMP
directory under windows, Recycler.. and sometimes (gasp) the System Volume
folder (ie, System Restore) if they were virus infected.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thane Sherrington
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 8:20 PM
To: The Hardware List
Subject: Re: [H] Deleting Recycle Bin

At 10:10 PM 23/06/2005, CW wrote:
>No danger.  It will recreate itself almost instantly, just as empty.. I do 
>this often with Windows TEMP directories..

Perfect.  I clean out the temp dirs and recycle bin under WinPE before 
running an AV scan to save time.

T 

Re: [H] Deleting Recycle Bin

[Thane Sherrington]

At 10:10 PM 23/06/2005, CW wrote:
No danger.  It will recreate itself almost instantly, just as empty.. I do 
this often with Windows TEMP directories..


Perfect.  I clean out the temp dirs and recycle bin under WinPE before 
running an AV scan to save time.


T 

Re: [H] Deleting Recycle Bin

[CW]

No danger.  It will recreate itself almost instantly, just as empty.. I do this 
often with Windows TEMP directories..


-Original message-
From: warpmedia [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 20:01:18 -0500
To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] Deleting Recycle Bin

> Short of rights issues as each of those funny name folders represent a 
> user SID. Either way delete it, it will be recreated next time a delete 
> happens.
> 
> Thane Sherrington wrote:
> > Is there any danger in deleting the Recycle Bin files from the DOS 
> > prompt?  I notice there are often multiple sub directories there - 
> > named, in MS fashion, long strings of letters and numbers.  Can I just 
> > remove these directories, or just delete the files from inside them?
> > 
> > T
> > 
> > 
> 

Re: [H] Deleting Recycle Bin

[warpmedia]

Short of rights issues as each of those funny name folders represent a 
user SID. Either way delete it, it will be recreated next time a delete 
happens.


Thane Sherrington wrote:
Is there any danger in deleting the Recycle Bin files from the DOS 
prompt?  I notice there are often multiple sub directories there - 
named, in MS fashion, long strings of letters and numbers.  Can I just 
remove these directories, or just delete the files from inside them?


T

Re: [H] [OT] Early Friday off-topic

[Thane Sherrington]

At 07:58 PM 23/06/2005, G.Waleed Kavalec wrote:

BULLETIN!  this just in


   It wasn't the Qur'an they flushed after all...


Heh heh.

T 

RE: [H] Upgrade :)

[Chris Reeves]

The one I've seen takes 3 5.25" bays and provides 4 SATA drive bays.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wayne Johnson
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 6:14 PM
To: The Hardware List
Subject: Re: [H] Upgrade :)

At 04:05 PM 6/23/2005, CW typed:
>That case will work with either a PCI card, Motherboard, etc.  It has 
>multiple SATA connector ins on the back.

With my Gigabyte mombo I have a SATA external connector & I would assume 
that it would be used these.


--+--
Wayne D. Johnson
Ashland, OH, USA 44805
 

Re: [H] Upgrade :)

[Wayne Johnson]

At 04:05 PM 6/23/2005, CW typed:
That case will work with either a PCI card, Motherboard, etc.  It has 
multiple SATA connector ins on the back.


With my Gigabyte mombo I have a SATA external connector & I would assume 
that it would be used these.



--+--
   Wayne D. Johnson
Ashland, OH, USA 44805
 

[H] [OT] Early Friday off-topic

[G.Waleed Kavalec]

BULLETIN!  this just in


   It wasn't the Qur'an they flushed after all...

   http://www.islamawakened.com/images/20050517edwas-a-p.jpg


G. Waleed Kavalec

Re: [H] Upgrade :)

[CW]

That case will work with either a PCI card, Motherboard, etc.  It has multiple 
SATA connector ins on the back.

-Original message-
From: Rob Finger HWG [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 14:25:48 -0500
To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] Upgrade :)

> No I was talking about the hardware itself.  Not your setup.  I saw 
> something like this a while ago but I wanted to know where the raid is 
> done at.  In the case, PCI board or MB?
> 
> Rob
> 
> CW wrote:
> > No.  It's a single drive, not in RAID at all.  I want 3 seperate single 
> > drives.  Only 1 will be in the PC at any given time.  With different Boot 
> > OS's.
> > 
> > -Original message-
> > From: Rob Finger HWG [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 10:49:18 -0500
> > To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com
> > Subject: Re: [H] Upgrade :)
> > 
> > 
> >>Is this a hardware raid on the external housing or does it work off your 
> >>  SATA connectors on the PC???  Just wondering as it does not give a lot 
> >>of info.
> >>
> >>Thanks,
> >>
> >>Rob
> >>
> >>Chris Reeves wrote:
> >>
> >>>I've seen those, we have some in at this office.. but since I want to boot 
> >>>a
> >>>different drive each time (and all my SATA connectors on the board are
> >>>taken) I need a removable type.. I think the Kingwin posted before maybe
> >>>right.. but I'm not sure about the safety of putting a 74G Raptor in one..
> >>>
> >>>-Original Message-
> >>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wayne Johnson
> >>>Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 6:35 AM
> >>>To: The Hardware List
> >>>Subject: Re: [H] Upgrade :)
> >>>
> >>>At 03:07 AM 6/23/2005, tived typed:
> >>>
> >>>
> Hi Chris
> 
> how about this one here, I know it is from and Australian web site but, I 
> am sure you can pick this up cheap in the US
>  >>>
> >>>u/show_product_info.php?input[product_code]=CA-SN3141SATA&input[category_id]
> >>>=1020>http://www.auspcmarket.com.au/index.php?redir=http://www.auspcmarket.c
> >>>om.au/show_product_info.php?input[product_code]=CA-SN3141SATA&input[category
> >>>_id]=1020
> >>>
> >>>
> sorry about the long URL
> 
> Kindest regards
> 
> Henrik
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>You can get one of those backplanes at Mwave 
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>--+--
> >>>Wayne D. Johnson
> >>>Ashland, OH, USA 44805
> >>> 
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> > 
> 

Re: [H] Upgrade :)

[Rob Finger HWG]

No I was talking about the hardware itself.  Not your setup.  I saw 
something like this a while ago but I wanted to know where the raid is 
done at.  In the case, PCI board or MB?


Rob

CW wrote:

No.  It's a single drive, not in RAID at all.  I want 3 seperate single drives. 
 Only 1 will be in the PC at any given time.  With different Boot OS's.

-Original message-
From: Rob Finger HWG [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 10:49:18 -0500
To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] Upgrade :)


Is this a hardware raid on the external housing or does it work off your 
 SATA connectors on the PC???  Just wondering as it does not give a lot 
of info.


Thanks,

Rob

Chris Reeves wrote:


I've seen those, we have some in at this office.. but since I want to boot a
different drive each time (and all my SATA connectors on the board are
taken) I need a removable type.. I think the Kingwin posted before maybe
right.. but I'm not sure about the safety of putting a 74G Raptor in one..

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wayne Johnson
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 6:35 AM
To: The Hardware List
Subject: Re: [H] Upgrade :)

At 03:07 AM 6/23/2005, tived typed:



Hi Chris

how about this one here, I know it is from and Australian web site but, I 
am sure you can pick this up cheap in the US

http://www.auspcmarket.com.au/index.php?redir=http://www.auspcmarket.c
om.au/show_product_info.php?input[product_code]=CA-SN3141SATA&input[category
_id]=1020



sorry about the long URL

Kindest regards

Henrik



You can get one of those backplanes at Mwave 




--+--
   Wayne D. Johnson
Ashland, OH, USA 44805
 

Re: [H] Government DRM in the broadcast flag may be law this week...

[Ben Ruset]

Hay guys did you hear Apple is going x86? :)

Brian Weeden wrote:

Great, now we gotta worry about dupes here as well as /. :)

Heheh :)

Re: [H] Government DRM in the broadcast flag may be law this week...

[Brian Weeden]

Great, now we gotta worry about dupes here as well as /. :)

Heheh :)
-- 
Brian

Re: [H] Government DRM in the broadcast flag may be law this week...

[Christopher Fisk]

On Thu, 23 Jun 2005, Stan Zaske wrote:


From the Electronic Frontier Foundation:

Forty-Eight Hours To Stop The Broadcast Flag




#1:  Didn't happen
#2:  You're about 24 hours late on the warning.
#3:  http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/archives/003730.php


Chris
--
If you want to stay dad you've got to polish your image. I think the 
image we need to create for you is "repentant but learning".

-- Calvin

[H] Government DRM in the broadcast flag may be law this week...

[Stan Zaske]

From the Electronic Frontier Foundation:

Forty-Eight Hours To Stop The Broadcast Flag

The Broadcast Flag was Hollywood's plan to point its remote control at 
your digital TV. It was a set of bits in the DTV standard that let 
broadcasters meddle with what could be done with publicly available 
broadcast video - even if those restrictions stomped on your fair use 
rights.


The courts struck down the original FCC proposal. Now, the lobbyists 
have turned to Congress. Rumor has it that a senator will introduce a 
Broadcast Flag amendment to the Senate Commerce, Justice, and Science 
appropriations bill. On Thursday, the text of that bill is decided in a 
full meeting of the Senate Appropriations committee.


Rumor has it that someone on the senate appropriations committee is 
going to try and sneak an amendment in to make the broadcast flag (DRM 
in digital television broadcasts) law this week.


The EFF has an action alert where - if you are from Alabama, Alaska, 
California, Colorado, Hawaii, Idaho,

Illinois, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maryland,
Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, Nevada, New Hampshire, New
Mexico, North Dakota, Ohio, Philadelphia, South Dakota,
Texas, Utah, Vermont, Washington, West Virginia, or
Wisconsin - you can contact your senator on the committee, and tell them 
to stop the amendment.

Re: [H] Deleting Recycle Bin

[Thane Sherrington]

At 01:45 PM 23/06/2005, CW wrote:

rd /s recycler


Excellent.  That's what I was hoping.

T 

Re: [H] AMD 64 driver

[Thane Sherrington]

At 01:44 PM 23/06/2005, CW wrote:

I think it was a hardware driver.


Ok, thanks.  I'll look for it.

T 

Re: [H] Deleting Recycle Bin

[CW]

rd /s recycler

-Original message-
From: Thane Sherrington [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 11:16:13 -0500
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: [H] Deleting Recycle Bin

> Is there any danger in deleting the Recycle Bin files from the DOS 
> prompt?  I notice there are often multiple sub directories there - named, 
> in MS fashion, long strings of letters and numbers.  Can I just remove 
> these directories, or just delete the files from inside them?
> 
> T
> 

Re: [H] AMD 64 driver

[CW]

I think it was a hardware driver.

-Original message-
From: Thane Sherrington [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 10:49:14 -0500
To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] AMD 64 driver

> At 12:47 PM 23/06/2005, CW wrote:
> >Mostly worthless (smaller version available through windowsupdate) 
> >provides Windows support for Cool-n-Quiet.. if it's the same file.. but 
> >this website looks kinda shady :)
> 
> On WindowsUpdate, is it a critical update, or do I have to look for it?
> 
> T 
> 

Re: [H] Upgrade :)

[CW]

No.  It's a single drive, not in RAID at all.  I want 3 seperate single drives. 
 Only 1 will be in the PC at any given time.  With different Boot OS's.

-Original message-
From: Rob Finger HWG [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 10:49:18 -0500
To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] Upgrade :)

> Is this a hardware raid on the external housing or does it work off your 
>   SATA connectors on the PC???  Just wondering as it does not give a lot 
> of info.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Rob
> 
> Chris Reeves wrote:
> > I've seen those, we have some in at this office.. but since I want to boot a
> > different drive each time (and all my SATA connectors on the board are
> > taken) I need a removable type.. I think the Kingwin posted before maybe
> > right.. but I'm not sure about the safety of putting a 74G Raptor in one..
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wayne Johnson
> > Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 6:35 AM
> > To: The Hardware List
> > Subject: Re: [H] Upgrade :)
> > 
> > At 03:07 AM 6/23/2005, tived typed:
> > 
> >>Hi Chris
> >>
> >>how about this one here, I know it is from and Australian web site but, I 
> >>am sure you can pick this up cheap in the US
> >> > 
> > u/show_product_info.php?input[product_code]=CA-SN3141SATA&input[category_id]
> > =1020>http://www.auspcmarket.com.au/index.php?redir=http://www.auspcmarket.c
> > om.au/show_product_info.php?input[product_code]=CA-SN3141SATA&input[category
> > _id]=1020
> > 
> >>sorry about the long URL
> >>
> >>Kindest regards
> >>
> >>Henrik
> > 
> > 
> > You can get one of those backplanes at Mwave 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --+--
> > Wayne D. Johnson
> > Ashland, OH, USA 44805
> >  
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 

[H] Deleting Recycle Bin

[Thane Sherrington]

Is there any danger in deleting the Recycle Bin files from the DOS 
prompt?  I notice there are often multiple sub directories there - named, 
in MS fashion, long strings of letters and numbers.  Can I just remove 
these directories, or just delete the files from inside them?


T

Re: [H] AMD64 powers off

[Thane Sherrington]

At 11:24 AM 23/06/2005, JRS wrote:


I thought that I read somewhere that when you are in bios looking at the
temps, the  CPU is actually runnng full speed, not idling?  Or maybe that
was just on some mobos?


Now with his motherboard and heatsink, the CPU is reading 74C whilst 
running AV scans in a WinPE enviroment.  I think the sensor on the 
motherboard has to be flaky.  The heat sink doesn't feel warm - perhaps it 
isn't transferring heat from the CPU, but I doubt it.


T 

Re: [H] AMD 64 driver

[Thane Sherrington]

At 12:47 PM 23/06/2005, CW wrote:
Mostly worthless (smaller version available through windowsupdate) 
provides Windows support for Cool-n-Quiet.. if it's the same file.. but 
this website looks kinda shady :)


On WindowsUpdate, is it a critical update, or do I have to look for it?

T 

Re: [H] Upgrade :)

[Rob Finger HWG]

Is this a hardware raid on the external housing or does it work off your 
 SATA connectors on the PC???  Just wondering as it does not give a lot 
of info.


Thanks,

Rob

Chris Reeves wrote:

I've seen those, we have some in at this office.. but since I want to boot a
different drive each time (and all my SATA connectors on the board are
taken) I need a removable type.. I think the Kingwin posted before maybe
right.. but I'm not sure about the safety of putting a 74G Raptor in one..

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wayne Johnson
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 6:35 AM
To: The Hardware List
Subject: Re: [H] Upgrade :)

At 03:07 AM 6/23/2005, tived typed:


Hi Chris

how about this one here, I know it is from and Australian web site but, I 
am sure you can pick this up cheap in the US

http://www.auspcmarket.com.au/index.php?redir=http://www.auspcmarket.c
om.au/show_product_info.php?input[product_code]=CA-SN3141SATA&input[category
_id]=1020


sorry about the long URL

Kindest regards

Henrik



You can get one of those backplanes at Mwave 




--+--
Wayne D. Johnson
Ashland, OH, USA 44805
 

Re: [H] AMD 64 driver

[CW]

Mostly worthless (smaller version available through windowsupdate) provides 
Windows support for Cool-n-Quiet.. if it's the same file.. but this website 
looks kinda shady :)

-Original message-
From: Thane Sherrington [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 10:25:44 -0500
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: [H] AMD 64 driver

> What is this driver?
> http://www.opendrivers.com/driver/216953/amd-sempron-(socket-754)-processor-driver-1.1.0.14-windows-xp-free-download.html
> 
> T
> 

[H] AMD 64 driver

[Thane Sherrington]

What is this driver?
http://www.opendrivers.com/driver/216953/amd-sempron-(socket-754)-processor-driver-1.1.0.14-windows-xp-free-download.html

T

Re: [H] AMD64 powers off

[Thane Sherrington]

At 12:11 PM 23/06/2005, FORC5 wrote:
is it possible the mb connector is controlling the cpu fan rpm ? maybe not 
full voltage on the header ?


That's what I'm assuming, but I see no way on this motherboard to change 
the fan header voltage.  Stupid design, I think.  My opinion of Gigabyte, 
not good to begin with, is being to drop.


T 

Re: [H] AMD64 powers off

[Thane Sherrington]

At 11:24 AM 23/06/2005, JRS wrote:


I thought that I read somewhere that when you are in bios looking at the
temps, the  CPU is actually runnng full speed, not idling?  Or maybe that
was just on some mobos?


That would be interesting to find out.  Any ideas how I could verify this?

T 

Re: [H] AMD64 powers off

[FORC5]

is it possible the mb connector is controlling the cpu fan
rpm ? maybe not full voltage on the header ?
fp
At 05:31 AM 6/23/2005, Thane Sherrington Poked the stick with:
Here's a strange thing.  On
his Gigabyte motherboard, the CPU climbs steadily updwards (it's at 64C
now sitting in the CMOS) with the same compound and heat sink (I have the
heat sink running from a power supply connector, since when I attached it
to the motherboard, the CPU climbed to 82C in about a minute and
shutdown.)  I've updated the BIOS, but I'm thinking the motherboard
must be doing something weird to be heating the CPU this way.  I
can't check the voltages, as it just says "OK" for all voltages
instead of showing actual numbers.  Clever.
T 


-- 
Tallyho ! ]:8)
--
TV is a medium; anything well done is rare.

Re: [H] New RAM bad?

[FORC5]

did you try the questionable ram in all slots ?
sounds bad to me
fp
At 06:18 AM 6/23/2005, Bobby Heid Poked the stick with:
Hey,
Just to make sure it is not something I am doing, I wanted to run this
by
you all.
I just got an extra 1GB of Corsair TWINX1024-3200C2 RAM.  I was
going to add
this to my existing 1GB RAM (same RAM as new RAM).  Upon booting,
the BIOS
screen shows the RAM as single channel or virtual channel running at
266MHz.
This was compared to it running at 400MHz dual channel with the 1GB
originally there.
When I went into the BIOS, it shows 1640GB (or something like that) of
RAM.

I took the new RAM out and it posted properly.  So I took the old
RAM out
and put the new RAM in it's place and still got the single channel
266MHz
reading.  I then tried each of the new sticks one at a time. 
One of them
posted at 400Mhz single channel 512MB.  The other gave a set of long
beeps
with no start the 1st time and then 266Mhz (didn't check the amount that
it
posted) the second time.
Am I correct in the assumption that one of these sticks is bad?
Thanks,
Bobby

-- 
Tallyho ! ]:8)
--
TV is a medium; anything well done is rare.

RE: [H] New RAM bad?

[Mark Dodge]

You did everything that would convince me that it was bad. 


Mark Dodge
MD Computers
602-421-0329 
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 8:01 AM
To: Bobby Heid; 'The Hardware List'
Subject: RE: [H] New RAM bad?

Since I got no bites, I went ahead and RMAed it.

Bobby

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 9:19 AM
To: 'The Hardware List'
Subject: [H] New RAM bad?


Hey,

Just to make sure it is not something I am doing, I wanted to run this by
you all.

I just got an extra 1GB of Corsair TWINX1024-3200C2 RAM.  I was going to add
this to my existing 1GB RAM (same RAM as new RAM).  Upon booting, the BIOS
screen shows the RAM as single channel or virtual channel running at 266MHz.
This was compared to it running at 400MHz dual channel with the 1GB
originally there.

When I went into the BIOS, it shows 1640GB (or something like that) of RAM.


I took the new RAM out and it posted properly.  So I took the old RAM out
and put the new RAM in it's place and still got the single channel 266MHz
reading.  I then tried each of the new sticks one at a time.  One of them
posted at 400Mhz single channel 512MB.  The other gave a set of long beeps
with no start the 1st time and then 266Mhz (didn't check the amount that it
posted) the second time.

Am I correct in the assumption that one of these sticks is bad?

Thanks,
Bobby

RE: [H] New RAM bad?

[Bobby Heid]

Since I got no bites, I went ahead and RMAed it.

Bobby

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 9:19 AM
To: 'The Hardware List'
Subject: [H] New RAM bad?


Hey,

Just to make sure it is not something I am doing, I wanted to run this by
you all.

I just got an extra 1GB of Corsair TWINX1024-3200C2 RAM.  I was going to add
this to my existing 1GB RAM (same RAM as new RAM).  Upon booting, the BIOS
screen shows the RAM as single channel or virtual channel running at 266MHz.
This was compared to it running at 400MHz dual channel with the 1GB
originally there.

When I went into the BIOS, it shows 1640GB (or something like that) of RAM.


I took the new RAM out and it posted properly.  So I took the old RAM out
and put the new RAM in it's place and still got the single channel 266MHz
reading.  I then tried each of the new sticks one at a time.  One of them
posted at 400Mhz single channel 512MB.  The other gave a set of long beeps
with no start the 1st time and then 266Mhz (didn't check the amount that it
posted) the second time.

Am I correct in the assumption that one of these sticks is bad?

Thanks,
Bobby

Re: [H] AMD64 powers off

[JRS]

I thought that I read somewhere that when you are in bios looking at the
temps, the  CPU is actually runnng full speed, not idling?  Or maybe that
was just on some mobos?





>>At 08:46 AM 23/06/2005, Wayne Johnson wrote:
>>>At 07:36 AM 6/23/2005, Thane Sherrington typed:
I got it working on my motherboard using Arctic Silver 5.  Seems to be 
running at 51C idle using his heat sink.
>>>
>>>What did he use, some latex caulk? 
>>
>>Heh heh.  He used that old style white compound, but he used about a pound 
>>of it. :)
>>
>>Here's a strange thing.  On his Gigabyte motherboard, the CPU climbs 
>>steadily updwards (it's at 64C now sitting in the CMOS) with the same 
>>compound and heat sink (I have the heat sink running from a power supply 
>>connector, since when I attached it to the motherboard, the CPU climbed to 
>>82C in about a minute and shutdown.)  I've updated the BIOS, but I'm 
>>thinking the motherboard must be doing something weird to be heating the 
>>CPU this way.  I can't check the voltages, as it just says "OK" for all 
>>voltages instead of showing actual numbers.  Clever.
>>
>>T 

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Please remove  **X**  to reply...

Facts do not cease to exist just
because they are ignored.

[H] 8-Way (16 way) Opteron w/SLI?

[Chris Reeves]

Woof.

 

http://www.tyan.com/html/pr05_vx50_s4881_m4881.html

 

4 Sockets, supports Dual core (so 8) with an optional board
for 8 sockets (16 via dual core) SLI, SATA-II, etc.

 

Of course, the requirement of a 1350W PS for that..

 

 

CW

[H] New RAM bad?

[Bobby Heid]

Hey,

Just to make sure it is not something I am doing, I wanted to run this by
you all.

I just got an extra 1GB of Corsair TWINX1024-3200C2 RAM.  I was going to add
this to my existing 1GB RAM (same RAM as new RAM).  Upon booting, the BIOS
screen shows the RAM as single channel or virtual channel running at 266MHz.
This was compared to it running at 400MHz dual channel with the 1GB
originally there.

When I went into the BIOS, it shows 1640GB (or something like that) of RAM.


I took the new RAM out and it posted properly.  So I took the old RAM out
and put the new RAM in it's place and still got the single channel 266MHz
reading.  I then tried each of the new sticks one at a time.  One of them
posted at 400Mhz single channel 512MB.  The other gave a set of long beeps
with no start the 1st time and then 266Mhz (didn't check the amount that it
posted) the second time.

Am I correct in the assumption that one of these sticks is bad?

Thanks,
Bobby

RE: [H] AMD64 powers off

[Tony Antoniou]

Do you have another CPU to test on his mobo? Process of elimination will get
you there but it sounds like a fried CPU to me if it's overheating like
that.


Adios,
Tony

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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thane Sherrington
Sent: Thursday, 23 June 2005 10:32
To: The Hardware List
Subject: Re: [H] AMD64 powers off

Here's a strange thing.  On his Gigabyte motherboard, the CPU climbs 
steadily updwards (it's at 64C now sitting in the CMOS) with the same 
compound and heat sink (I have the heat sink running from a power supply 
connector, since when I attached it to the motherboard, the CPU climbed to 
82C in about a minute and shutdown.)  I've updated the BIOS, but I'm 
thinking the motherboard must be doing something weird to be heating the 
CPU this way.  I can't check the voltages, as it just says "OK" for all 
voltages instead of showing actual numbers.  Clever.

T 

RE: [H] Upgrade :)

[Chris Reeves]

I've seen those, we have some in at this office.. but since I want to boot a
different drive each time (and all my SATA connectors on the board are
taken) I need a removable type.. I think the Kingwin posted before maybe
right.. but I'm not sure about the safety of putting a 74G Raptor in one..

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wayne Johnson
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 6:35 AM
To: The Hardware List
Subject: Re: [H] Upgrade :)

At 03:07 AM 6/23/2005, tived typed:
>Hi Chris
>
>how about this one here, I know it is from and Australian web site but, I 
>am sure you can pick this up cheap in the US
>http://www.auspcmarket.com.au/index.php?redir=http://www.auspcmarket.c
om.au/show_product_info.php?input[product_code]=CA-SN3141SATA&input[category
_id]=1020
>
>sorry about the long URL
>
>Kindest regards
>
>Henrik

You can get one of those backplanes at Mwave 



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Wayne D. Johnson
Ashland, OH, USA 44805
 

Re: [H] Upgrade :)

[Henrik Tived]

damn, look at how cheap it is in the US

life isn't fair!

Henrik

- Original Message - 
From: "Wayne Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "The Hardware List" 
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 7:34 PM
Subject: Re: [H] Upgrade :)



At 03:07 AM 6/23/2005, tived typed:

Hi Chris

how about this one here, I know it is from and Australian web site but, I 
am sure you can pick this up cheap in the US

http://www.auspcmarket.com.au/index.php?redir=http://www.auspcmarket.com.au/show_product_info.php?input[product_code]=CA-SN3141SATA&input[category_id]=1020

sorry about the long URL

Kindest regards

Henrik


You can get one of those backplanes at Mwave 




--+--
   Wayne D. Johnson
Ashland, OH, USA 44805

Re: [H] AMD64 powers off

[Thane Sherrington]

At 08:46 AM 23/06/2005, Wayne Johnson wrote:

At 07:36 AM 6/23/2005, Thane Sherrington typed:
I got it working on my motherboard using Arctic Silver 5.  Seems to be 
running at 51C idle using his heat sink.


What did he use, some latex caulk? 


Heh heh.  He used that old style white compound, but he used about a pound 
of it. :)


Here's a strange thing.  On his Gigabyte motherboard, the CPU climbs 
steadily updwards (it's at 64C now sitting in the CMOS) with the same 
compound and heat sink (I have the heat sink running from a power supply 
connector, since when I attached it to the motherboard, the CPU climbed to 
82C in about a minute and shutdown.)  I've updated the BIOS, but I'm 
thinking the motherboard must be doing something weird to be heating the 
CPU this way.  I can't check the voltages, as it just says "OK" for all 
voltages instead of showing actual numbers.  Clever.


T 

RE: [H] AMD64 powers off

[Tony Antoniou]

I'm not quite sure what Wayne means by "phase change material". I'm guessing
he means heatsink tape as opposed to heatsink paste. Either way, both work
brilliantly if used correctly. Heatsink tape/pad has the advantage of being
clean to handle and remove as opposed to the paste. But as long as you smear
a thin layer between the heatsink and the semiconductor, you can achieve the
exact same results. The purpose of the stuff is to maximise heat transfer
through a number of factors but predominantly to do away with any air
pockets which may take away the efficiency.

But anything more than just a thin layer will result in the stuff acting as
an insulator rather than a conductor transferring nothing. And to add to
that, seeing some CPU's coming back to my wholesaler with compound all over
the sides and the pins, as though the stuff was so thick that it just oozed
everywhere, it's no wonder why the CPU has failed!!

Admittedly though, I often see an overzealous use of the compound in
amplifiers, particularly car audio. I was amazed and appalled when I saw a
Sony XM-754HX amp with fried output transistors. Admittedly, they died after
about 3 years of constant abuse but even so, they would've lasted a lot
longer if there was a thin layer of compound instead of the gobs of yoghurt
I found all over them. After replacing the transistors, I applied more
appropriate amounts and the thing hasn't even hit the overheat-protect
circuit like it frequently used to.

Back to CPU's, for the record, my dual Opterons are running at 46C and 42C
on a full load and that's using just standard heatsink paste with Swiftech
MCX6400-V heatsinks. No funky Arctic Silver, Whizbangthingamebob
Wondercream, etc - just the standard heatsink compound found in your
favourite electronics store (or wholesaler in my case).


Adios,
Tony

---  TAMA - The Strongest Name in Drums  ---

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thane Sherrington
Sent: Thursday, 23 June 2005 9:37
To: The Hardware List
Subject: Re: [H] AMD64 powers off

At 06:39 PM 22/06/2005, Wayne Johnson wrote:
>It's suppose to have phase change material & not paste. I thought you said 
>there was paste all over the place? The fact still remains that the thing 
>sounds cooked to me. It wouldn't surprise me if he forgot to put the HSF 
>on before powering up, cooked it & is hoping that you can will it back to
life.

I got it working on my motherboard using Arctic Silver 5.  Seems to be 
running at 51C idle using his heat sink.
 

Re: [H] AMD64 powers off

[Wayne Johnson]

At 07:36 AM 6/23/2005, Thane Sherrington typed:
I got it working on my motherboard using Arctic Silver 5.  Seems to be 
running at 51C idle using his heat sink.


What did he use, some latex caulk? 

Congrats.


--+--
   Wayne D. Johnson
Ashland, OH, USA 44805
 

Re: [H] Upgrade :)

[Wayne Johnson]

At 03:07 AM 6/23/2005, tived typed:

Hi Chris

how about this one here, I know it is from and Australian web site but, I 
am sure you can pick this up cheap in the US

http://www.auspcmarket.com.au/index.php?redir=http://www.auspcmarket.com.au/show_product_info.php?input[product_code]=CA-SN3141SATA&input[category_id]=1020

sorry about the long URL

Kindest regards

Henrik


You can get one of those backplanes at Mwave 




--+--
   Wayne D. Johnson
Ashland, OH, USA 44805
 

Re: [H] AMD64 powers off

[Thane Sherrington]

At 06:39 PM 22/06/2005, Wayne Johnson wrote:
It's suppose to have phase change material & not paste. I thought you said 
there was paste all over the place? The fact still remains that the thing 
sounds cooked to me. It wouldn't surprise me if he forgot to put the HSF 
on before powering up, cooked it & is hoping that you can will it back to life.


I got it working on my motherboard using Arctic Silver 5.  Seems to be 
running at 51C idle using his heat sink.


T 

Re: [H] FTTP

[Wayne Johnson]

At 02:37 AM 6/23/2005, joeuser typed:


What do you mean?


Now who is being too serious? I can't share your fiber line & get 4 + mps 
downloads.


Wasn't on another list that I had to explain your humor? ;-)


--+--
   Wayne D. Johnson
Ashland, OH, USA 44805
 

Re: [H] Upgrade :)

[tived]

Hi Chris 
 
how about this one here, I know it is from and 
Australian web site but, I am sure you can pick this up cheap in the 
US
http://www.auspcmarket.com.au/index.php?redir=http://www.auspcmarket.com.au/show_product_info.php?input[product_code]=CA-SN3141SATA&input[category_id]=1020
 
sorry about the long URL
 
Kindest regards
 
Henrik

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Chris 
  Reeves 
  To: 'The Hardware List' 
  Sent: Thursday, 23 June, 2005 11:35
  Subject: [H] Upgrade :)
  
  
  OK, finally switched 
  J  I 
  got in my 4400+ last week, and today, a XFX 7800GTX J  I’m 
  not using an SLI board, but it appears from online benchmarks my results 
  should be pretty good (and here I don’t have a single damn game on my PC 
  outside of Sid Meir’s Pirates and War Craft III) but, still.. 
  
  I’m looking for a swappable 
  SATA 5.25” bay, so I can “swap” boot drives.. I’ve got my current (XP Pro) 
  want to setup 1 for WinXP 64, 1 for Linux.  I had been going along pretty 
  good with VirtualPC 2004; but can’t do XP 64 bit 
  etc.
   
  CW