[H] RE: FFL

2005-07-22 Thread Jim Edwards

I'm in. That was fun last year.

At 7/21/2005 07:03 AM, Chris Reeves wrote:

Yeah, Hayes  I just traded email.. once again, we need to get our league
together for this year..




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RE: [H] RE: FFL

2005-07-22 Thread Alex
I'd like to join up again! Let me know if I can chip in 

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 Subject: [H] RE: FFL 
 
 I'm in. That was fun last year.
 
 At 7/21/2005 07:03 AM, Chris Reeves wrote:
 Yeah, Hayes  I just traded email.. once again, we need to get our 
 league together for this year..
 
 
 
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Re: [H] RE: FFL

2005-07-22 Thread j m g
I'm in.

-John

On 7/22/05, Jim Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm in. That was fun last year.
 
 At 7/21/2005 07:03 AM, Chris Reeves wrote:
 Yeah, Hayes  I just traded email.. once again, we need to get our league
 together for this year..
 
 
 
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Re: [H] RE: FFL

2005-07-22 Thread Brian Weeden
The llamas are looking forward to kicking some more a$$ :)

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RE: [H] Fibre optic audio cable

2005-07-22 Thread Tony Antoniou
TOSlink for sure dude. And yes, they are very cheap.

Adios,
Tony

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thane Sherrington
Sent: Friday, 22 July 2005 5:39
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: [H] Fibre optic audio cable

Is the fibre optic audio cable on a PS2 called a TOSLink cable?  I've found 
a couple of 12 footers, and they seem really cheap - about $20.  I thought 
that fibre audio cables were expensive.

T




RE: [H] Fibre optic audio cable

2005-07-22 Thread Thane Sherrington

At 12:58 PM 22/07/2005, Tony Antoniou wrote:

TOSlink for sure dude. And yes, they are very cheap.


Excellent.  Thanks.  For some reason, I was under the impression that they 
were around $100.


T 



Re: [H] RE: FFL

2005-07-22 Thread Hayes Elkins

It would be very nice if we had 12 teams this year.

I need to dust off my Stalin uniform for commissioner duties...


From: Brian Weeden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Brian Weeden [EMAIL PROTECTED],The Hardware List 
hardware@hardwaregroup.com
To: j m g [EMAIL PROTECTED], The Hardware List 
hardware@hardwaregroup.com

Subject: Re: [H] RE: FFL
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 08:29:51 -0600

The llamas are looking forward to kicking some more a$$ :)

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[H] Electric Sheep

2005-07-22 Thread Robert Turnbull

Interesting concept.

Anyone tried it?

More importantly, does it put a computer at greater risk of invasion.

http://electricsheep.org/


Robert Turnbull, Toronto, Canada



Re: [H] AntiVirus Program review

2005-07-22 Thread Greg Sevart
Norton Antivirus http://www.symantec.com gets the Gnashing Teeth award... 
*snipped mindless drivel*
BTW, the corporate version is worse than the standard version, so don't even 
go there.


That's such bullshit that it completely negates any and all other findings. 
Yeah, the consumer grade software is terrible, but the corporate/enterprise 
stuff is top notch. I am, however, glad that he rated Kaspersky highI've 
started pushing it to individual customers.




Greg

- Original Message - 
From: Robert Turnbull [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 11:31 AM
Subject: [H] AntiVirus Program review


Go to the URL below for an interesting assessment of the merits of various 
antivirus programs:


http://www.suggestafix.com/index.php?act=STf=16t=16990s=407229a133914019ef7531bdc8207d1c

Best wishes

Robert Turnbull, Toronto, Canada







Re: [H] AntiVirus Program review

2005-07-22 Thread joeuser
I've been doing the Kaspersky thing for over a year now. It was 
suggested here on this list and then I used it to detect a virus on a 
system that nothing else could detect. Since then I haven't looked back. 
I like NOD32 because the interface is nice and heuristics seem to be 
very good but it doesn't detect all that Kaspersky does.


Greg Sevart wrote:

Norton Antivirus http://www.symantec.com gets the Gnashing Teeth 
award... *snipped mindless drivel*
BTW, the corporate version is worse than the standard version, so don't 
even go there.


That's such bullshit that it completely negates any and all other 
findings. Yeah, the consumer grade software is terrible, but the 
corporate/enterprise stuff is top notch. I am, however, glad that he 
rated Kaspersky highI've started pushing it to individual customers.




Greg

- Original Message - From: Robert Turnbull 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 11:31 AM
Subject: [H] AntiVirus Program review


Go to the URL below for an interesting assessment of the merits of 
various antivirus programs:


http://www.suggestafix.com/index.php?act=STf=16t=16990s=407229a133914019ef7531bdc8207d1c 



Best wishes

Robert Turnbull, Toronto, Canada








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Re: [H] RE: FFL

2005-07-22 Thread Brian Weeden
On 7/22/05, Hayes Elkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 It would be very nice if we had 12 teams this year.

I actually think 10 is the sweet spot, but 12 is still better than 8.

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Re: [H] AntiVirus Program review

2005-07-22 Thread JRS
Is Kaspersky subscription, or buy-once type stuff??  

I hate the subscription ones is why I ask.  :)



--- joeuser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I've been doing the Kaspersky thing for over a year now. It was 
 suggested here on this list and then I used it to detect a virus on a
 
 system that nothing else could detect. Since then I haven't looked
 back. 
 I like NOD32 because the interface is nice and heuristics seem to be 
 very good but it doesn't detect all that Kaspersky does.
 
 Greg Sevart wrote:
 
  Norton Antivirus http://www.symantec.com gets the Gnashing Teeth 
  award... *snipped mindless drivel*
  BTW, the corporate version is worse than the standard version, so
 don't 
  even go there.
  
  That's such bullshit that it completely negates any and all other 
  findings. Yeah, the consumer grade software is terrible, but the 
  corporate/enterprise stuff is top notch. I am, however, glad that
 he 
  rated Kaspersky highI've started pushing it to individual
 customers.
  
  
  
  Greg
  
  - Original Message - From: Robert Turnbull 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
  Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 11:31 AM
  Subject: [H] AntiVirus Program review
  
  
  Go to the URL below for an interesting assessment of the merits of
 
  various antivirus programs:
 
 

http://www.suggestafix.com/index.php?act=STf=16t=16990s=407229a133914019ef7531bdc8207d1c
 
 
 
  Best wishes
 
  Robert Turnbull, Toronto, Canada
 
 
  
  
  
 
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 Cheers,
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Re: [H] AntiVirus Program review

2005-07-22 Thread joeuser

I've never heard of any anti-virus that wasn't a subscription.
Kaspersky is a subscription though. Kaspersky new price is ~35.00 and 
renewal is ~25.00




JRS wrote:

Is Kaspersky subscription, or buy-once type stuff??  


I hate the subscription ones is why I ask.  :)



--- joeuser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I've been doing the Kaspersky thing for over a year now. It was 
suggested here on this list and then I used it to detect a virus on a


system that nothing else could detect. Since then I haven't looked
back. 
I like NOD32 because the interface is nice and heuristics seem to be 
very good but it doesn't detect all that Kaspersky does.


Greg Sevart wrote:


Norton Antivirus http://www.symantec.com gets the Gnashing Teeth 
award... *snipped mindless drivel*

BTW, the corporate version is worse than the standard version, so


don't 


even go there.

That's such bullshit that it completely negates any and all other 
findings. Yeah, the consumer grade software is terrible, but the 
corporate/enterprise stuff is top notch. I am, however, glad that


he 


rated Kaspersky highI've started pushing it to individual


customers.




Greg

- Original Message - From: Robert Turnbull 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 11:31 AM
Subject: [H] AntiVirus Program review




Go to the URL below for an interesting assessment of the merits of



various antivirus programs:





http://www.suggestafix.com/index.php?act=STf=16t=16990s=407229a133914019ef7531bdc8207d1c



Best wishes

Robert Turnbull, Toronto, Canada







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Re: [H] RE: FFL

2005-07-22 Thread Mark
You prolly need to set up the FFL list again.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: Jim Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Jul 22, 2005 6:49 AM
To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: [H] RE: FFL 

I'm in. That was fun last year.

At 7/21/2005 07:03 AM, Chris Reeves wrote:
Yeah, Hayes  I just traded email.. once again, we need to get our league
together for this year..



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Mark Dodge



Re: [H] AntiVirus Program review

2005-07-22 Thread Thane Sherrington

At 02:37 PM 22/07/2005, joeuser wrote:

I've never heard of any anti-virus that wasn't a subscription.
Kaspersky is a subscription though. Kaspersky new price is ~35.00 and 
renewal is ~25.00


Heh heh.  He must be thinking AVG. :)

T 



Re: [H] AntiVirus Program review

2005-07-22 Thread Ben Ruset

Clamwin is free and subscriptionless.

I just switched to it on my laptop as well as all of the machines here 
at work.


joeuser wrote:

I've never heard of any anti-virus that wasn't a subscription.
Kaspersky is a subscription though. Kaspersky new price is ~35.00 and 
renewal is ~25.00


Re: [H] RE: FFL

2005-07-22 Thread CW
Yep, our goal is 10-12.  I think this will be a very enjoyable year ;)

-Original message-
From: Brian Weeden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 11:24:57 -0500
To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] RE: FFL

 On 7/22/05, Hayes Elkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  It would be very nice if we had 12 teams this year.
 
 I actually think 10 is the sweet spot, but 12 is still better than 8.
 
 -- 
 Brian
 



Re: [H] AntiVirus Program review

2005-07-22 Thread FORC5


tried it but it would not scan lapped drives on the lan.
unless that has changed I need that feature.
fp
At 10:02 AM 7/22/2005, joeuser Poked the stick with:
I've been doing the Kaspersky
thing for over a year now. It was suggested here on this list and then I
used it to detect a virus on a system that nothing else could detect.
Since then I haven't looked back. I like NOD32 because the interface is
nice and heuristics seem to be very good but it doesn't detect all that
Kaspersky does.
Greg Sevart wrote:
Norton Antivirus

http://www.symantec.com gets the Gnashing Teeth award...
*snipped mindless drivel*
BTW, the corporate version is worse than the standard version, so don't
even go there.
That's such bullshit that it completely negates any and all other
findings. Yeah, the consumer grade software is terrible, but the
corporate/enterprise stuff is top notch. I am, however, glad that he
rated Kaspersky highI've started pushing it to individual
customers.
Greg
- Original Message - From: Robert Turnbull
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 11:31 AM
Subject: [H] AntiVirus Program review
Go to the URL below for an
interesting assessment of the merits of various antivirus
programs:

http://www.suggestafix.com/index.php?act=STf=16t=16990s=407229a133914019ef7531bdc8207d1c
 
Best wishes
Robert Turnbull, Toronto, Canada


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RE: [H] RE: FFL

2005-07-22 Thread Chris Reeves
Got it.

However, for those that did not participate, if you are wanting to, now is a
good time to get in.  This is not a high pressure league full of people who
put way to much stress in it.  It does require your general involvement, but
not a fantastic amount.  And, more then that, the general entertainment
values and rewards are worthwhile.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Edwards
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 4:51 PM
To: The Hardware List
Subject: Re: [H] RE: FFL

At 7/22/2005 05:47 PM, Jim Edwards wrote:
Never went down.
https://www.hardwaregroup.com/mailman/listinfo/ffl
original ffl ers are still subbed. Just sent a test mail.



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RE: [H] RE: FFL

2005-07-22 Thread Wayne Johnson

At 07:22 PM 7/22/2005, Chris Reeves typed:

However, for those that did not participate, if you are wanting to, now is a
good time to get in.  This is not a high pressure league full of people who
put way to much stress in it.  It does require your general involvement, but
not a fantastic amount.  And, more then that, the general entertainment
values and rewards are worthwhile.


Well I think I'd like to sign up but not if I have to take TO altho he 
stated today that he will show up to training camp.



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Ashland, OH, USA 44805
http://www.wavijo.com 



RE: [H] RE: FFL

2005-07-22 Thread Chris Reeves
*laugh* you never have to take anyone, we of course, draft ;)  And based on
my cruddy drafts of the past, people will tell you you can take whoever.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wayne Johnson
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 6:39 PM
To: The Hardware List
Subject: RE: [H] RE: FFL

At 07:22 PM 7/22/2005, Chris Reeves typed:
However, for those that did not participate, if you are wanting to, now is
a
good time to get in.  This is not a high pressure league full of people who
put way to much stress in it.  It does require your general involvement,
but
not a fantastic amount.  And, more then that, the general entertainment
values and rewards are worthwhile.

Well I think I'd like to sign up but not if I have to take TO altho he 
stated today that he will show up to training camp.


--+--
Wayne D. Johnson
Ashland, OH, USA 44805
http://www.wavijo.com 





Re: [H] RE: FFL

2005-07-22 Thread joeuser

So... newbies are welcome?

Chris Reeves wrote:


Got it.

However, for those that did not participate, if you are wanting to, now is a
good time to get in.  This is not a high pressure league full of people who
put way to much stress in it.  It does require your general involvement, but
not a fantastic amount.  And, more then that, the general entertainment
values and rewards are worthwhile.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Edwards
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 4:51 PM
To: The Hardware List
Subject: Re: [H] RE: FFL

At 7/22/2005 05:47 PM, Jim Edwards wrote:


Never went down.
https://www.hardwaregroup.com/mailman/listinfo/ffl


original ffl ers are still subbed. Just sent a test mail.





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