Re: [H] Put yourself on the map

[Jim Edwards]

http://www.risingconcepts.com/frapper/thehardwaregroup
last name is backwards just to fool "them"

At 10/8/2005 11:07 PM, Steve wrote:

Cool idea.start a HWG map
http://www.risingconcepts.com/frapper/
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Re: [H] Put yourself on the map

[Al]

Jim Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> http://www.risingconcepts.com/frapper/thehardwaregroup
> last name is backwards just to fool "them"


if you zoom in, it shows you live in a field.  :)

Al

Re: [H] Put yourself on the map

[Ben Ruset]

You don't live that far from me.

Jim Edwards wrote:

http://www.risingconcepts.com/frapper/thehardwaregroup
last name is backwards just to fool "them"

At 10/8/2005 11:07 PM, Steve wrote:


Cool idea.start a HWG map
http://www.risingconcepts.com/frapper/ 


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Re: [H] Put yourself on the map

[Wayne Johnson]

At 11:07 PM 10/8/2005, Steve typed:

Cool idea.start a HWG map
http://www.risingconcepts.com/frapper/


Done.


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Re: [H] Put yourself on the map

[jeff.lane]

Excellent idea.


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Cool idea.start a HWG map
http://www.risingconcepts.com/frapper/


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[H] Will this work

[Al]

Will a PCI Matrox Parhelia and a AGP Matrox Parhelia work together for a
total of 6 screens? Will XP Pro do it?

Just want to build a crazy setup...

Thanks in advance,
Al

Re: [H] Put yourself on the map

[warpmedia]

Hey, mine's even more scrambled. Though I may have to worry, it's looks 
"suspicious foreigner". :D




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http://www.risingconcepts.com/frapper/thehardwaregroup
last name is backwards just to fool "them"

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Cool idea.start a HWG map
http://www.risingconcepts.com/frapper/ 


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Re: [H] Will this work

[Winterlight]

I don't see why not. I have two dual head G450s running, AGP and PCI, that 
will run  four monitors.  I am currently running two  and a TV using DVD 
MAX which is the best TV out drivers available.


You should post the question to the Matrox Tech support forum

http://www.matrox.com/mga/support/forum/agree.cfm

Matrox will respond pretty quick, during their business hours. You will 
have to wait until the holiday is over before you can post the question. 
Then you will know for sure.






At 12:25 PM 10/9/2005, you wrote:

Will a PCI Matrox Parhelia and a AGP Matrox Parhelia work together for a
total of 6 screens? Will XP Pro do it?

Just want to build a crazy setup...

Thanks in advance,
Al

Re: [H] Will this work

[Winterlight]

One caveat to this I should of mentioned with the Parhelia you will not 
be able to run 3 monitors at 1600 X 1200 at 32 bit color at 85Hz. I know 
because I asked.


http://forum.matrox.com/mga/viewtopic.php?t=14808&highlight=rode

Two but not three... unless you want to streatch the view over three 
monitors. A G450 will do one monitor at this resolution.


Your smartest move is to decide what monitors you intend to use, at what 
settings, and then ask Matrox. They will tell you if it will work.



At 01:04 PM 10/9/2005, you wrote:
I don't see why not. I have two dual head G450s running, AGP and PCI, that 
will run  four monitors.  I am currently running two  and a TV using DVD 
MAX which is the best TV out drivers available.


You should post the question to the Matrox Tech support forum

http://www.matrox.com/mga/support/forum/agree.cfm

Matrox will respond pretty quick, during their business hours. You will 
have to wait until the holiday is over before you can post the question. 
Then you will know for sure.






At 12:25 PM 10/9/2005, you wrote:

Will a PCI Matrox Parhelia and a AGP Matrox Parhelia work together for a
total of 6 screens? Will XP Pro do it?

Just want to build a crazy setup...

Thanks in advance,
Al

Re: [H] Will this work

[Al]

Thanks. Isn't it a question of memory? both cards will have 256 megs...

Al

Winterlight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> One caveat to this I should of mentioned with the Parhelia you will not 
> be able to run 3 monitors at 1600 X 1200 at 32 bit color at 85Hz. I know 
> because I asked.
> 
> http://forum.matrox.com/mga/viewtopic.php?t=14808&highlight=rode
> 
> Two but not three... unless you want to streatch the view over three 
> monitors. A G450 will do one monitor at this resolution.
> 
> Your smartest move is to decide what monitors you intend to use, at what 
> settings, and then ask Matrox. They will tell you if it will work.
> 
> 
> At 01:04 PM 10/9/2005, you wrote:
> >I don't see why not. I have two dual head G450s running, AGP and PCI, that 
> >will run  four monitors.  I am currently running two  and a TV using DVD 
> >MAX which is the best TV out drivers available.
> >
> >You should post the question to the Matrox Tech support forum
> >
> >http://www.matrox.com/mga/support/forum/agree.cfm
> >
> >Matrox will respond pretty quick, during their business hours. You will 
> >have to wait until the holiday is over before you can post the question. 
> >Then you will know for sure.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >At 12:25 PM 10/9/2005, you wrote:
> >>Will a PCI Matrox Parhelia and a AGP Matrox Parhelia work together for a
> >>total of 6 screens? Will XP Pro do it?
> >>
> >>Just want to build a crazy setup...
> >>
> >>Thanks in advance,
> >>Al
> >
> 


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RE: [H] Will this work

[Chris Reeves]

Yes.  You can do it.




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Subject: [H] Will this work



Will a PCI Matrox Parhelia and a AGP Matrox Parhelia work together for a
total of 6 screens? Will XP Pro do it?

Just want to build a crazy setup...

Thanks in advance,
Al

Re: [H] Will this work

[Winterlight]

At 01:20 PM 10/9/2005, you wrote:


Thanks. Isn't it a question of memory? both cards will have 256 megs...


No, it isn't just memory... above 16 megs , memory is only practically 
important to 3D. It is the GPU speed that matters here.





Al

Winterlight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> One caveat to this I should of mentioned with the Parhelia you will 
not

> be able to run 3 monitors at 1600 X 1200 at 32 bit color at 85Hz. I know
> because I asked.
>
> http://forum.matrox.com/mga/viewtopic.php?t=14808&highlight=rode
>
> Two but not three... unless you want to streatch the view over three
> monitors. A G450 will do one monitor at this resolution.
>
> Your smartest move is to decide what monitors you intend to use, at what
> settings, and then ask Matrox. They will tell you if it will work.
>
>
> At 01:04 PM 10/9/2005, you wrote:
> >I don't see why not. I have two dual head G450s running, AGP and PCI, 
that

> >will run  four monitors.  I am currently running two  and a TV using DVD
> >MAX which is the best TV out drivers available.
> >
> >You should post the question to the Matrox Tech support forum
> >
> >http://www.matrox.com/mga/support/forum/agree.cfm
> >
> >Matrox will respond pretty quick, during their business hours. You will
> >have to wait until the holiday is over before you can post the question.
> >Then you will know for sure.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >At 12:25 PM 10/9/2005, you wrote:
> >>Will a PCI Matrox Parhelia and a AGP Matrox Parhelia work together for a
> >>total of 6 screens? Will XP Pro do it?
> >>
> >>Just want to build a crazy setup...
> >>
> >>Thanks in advance,
> >>Al
> >
>


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 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
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Re: [H] Will this work

[Al]

Winterlight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> At 01:20 PM 10/9/2005, you wrote:
> 
> >Thanks. Isn't it a question of memory? both cards will have 256 megs...
> 
> No, it isn't just memory... above 16 megs , memory is only practically 
> important to 3D. It is the GPU speed that matters here.

Thanks, you just saved me a pile of ca$h.

Al

Re: [H] Will this work

[Winterlight]

Thanks, you just saved me a pile of ca$h.
Al


The Parhelia ain't cheap. I have been watching them for a couple of years 
now and they have never come down, which I don't get.. plus they have a 
strong following. If you do go with six monitors, or even a couple, you 
want to be running all Matrox, ... unless you want to do  TV turner or 
multimedia stuff. For multi monitors though, Matrox drivers are far and 
away in front of everybody else.  

RE: [H] Will this work

[Chris Reeves]

They have a pretty strong following because Adobe and the RT.X series video
editing cards make easy use of them, and in that environment, there just
isn't anything else ;(  

Matrox Axio & RT.X cards still sell like crazy because they work so damn
well, actually, for what they cost.

And as long as Matrox can bundle the two together and stay profitable, they
don't have a huge demand to do anything else.




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>Thanks, you just saved me a pile of ca$h.
>Al

The Parhelia ain't cheap. I have been watching them for a couple of years 
now and they have never come down, which I don't get.. plus they have a 
strong following. If you do go with six monitors, or even a couple, you 
want to be running all Matrox, ... unless you want to do  TV turner or 
multimedia stuff. For multi monitors though, Matrox drivers are far and 
away in front of everybody else.  

Re: [H] Will this work

[Christopher Fisk]

On Sun, 9 Oct 2005, Winterlight wrote:

Two but not three... unless you want to streatch the view over three monitors. 
A G450 will do one monitor at this resolution.


I've got 2 21" monitors being driven at 1600x1200 16bpp in linux.  Not 
quite 32bpp, but maybe acceptable?



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Re: [H] Will this work

[Greg Sevart]

I would hardly call 16bpp acceptable, but I'm extremely picky when it comes 
to display output. :)


(running a 24" LCD at 1920x1200x32bpp and a 20" LCD at 1680x1050x32bpp with 
a dual-DVI 6600GT)


Greg

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Sent: Sunday, October 09, 2005 5:27 PM
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On Sun, 9 Oct 2005, Winterlight wrote:

Two but not three... unless you want to streatch the view over three 
monitors. A G450 will do one monitor at this resolution.


I've got 2 21" monitors being driven at 1600x1200 16bpp in linux.  Not 
quite 32bpp, but maybe acceptable?



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[H] Java Programmers, need advice

[warpmedia]

Got a chance at a project & need to learn Java 2, specifically J2ME. 
Wondering if anyone has book recommendations?


I've been looking at these, yes they are J2ME not J2SE. I have an old 
Hacking Java w/ the other Que Java 1.1 books on CD, is J2SE that much 
changed from 1.1?


Enterprise J2ME: Developing Mobile Java Applications
by Michael Juntao Yuan

Wireless Java: Developing with J2ME, Second Edition
by Jonathan Knudsen

Beginning J2ME: From Novice to Professional, Third Edition
by Sing Li

J2ME in a Nutshell (O'Reilly Java)
by Kim Topley

Learning Wireless Java
by Qusay Mahmoud

[H] TEST

[rls]

test

[H] SOLVED MY PROBLEMO was HELP ON Speed

[rls]

Well just about had run out of ideas when I remembered an 'old' solution of
mine.

 Now mind you, I had re-set the bios to its default settings at least twice
prior to this ---

I popped out the CMOS BATTERY (could not spot the clear cmos jumpers at the
time).

Anyway THAT did the trick. I had upgraded the bios about a week ago and I
finally remember an Asus board I had, that I had to clear the CMOS after a
certain point as simply restoring to the default bios settings wouldn't do
it. Don't know if there are lingering artifacts or what but it's great to
have my old machine back, lol. 10 minutes to encode a DVD rather than 4
hours. 

LEARNED SOMETHING ELSE IN THE PROCESS
I had been having problems with a Seagate drive on the IDE side. Came across
an item in one of Seagate's pages that sometimes switch a hard drive to the
PRIMARY channel would clear things up.  I had the drive on the Secondary
Channel to make the cables lay nicer but I figured that I had nothing to
loose.

Lo and behold - the drive now runs UDMA 5 instead of 2. 

Oh well, now to try and install Virtual PC


Thanks all

[H] Dedicated 35mm Film/Slide Scanner

[Jin-Wei Tioh]

Hello all,

I've been poking around with Google for the past week and I have to
admit that I'm still a little confused as to which is a current, good
dedicated 35mm film/slide scanner in the $200 or so price range.

I've read that the Acer ScanWit 2720S was surprisingly good (and I
guess that carries over to the Benq ScanWit 2750i), but was wondering
if the list had other recommendations? I don't think the Kodak Minolta
Scan IV is an option as it does not have ICE.

Looking forward to your replies, as always :D

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Re: [H] SOLVED MY PROBLEMO was HELP ON Speed

[FORC5]

had a Tyan tech once tell me that the CCMOS does more then just clear the 
registry something about registers ( what ever that is )
fp

At 06:01 PM 10/9/2005, rls Poked the stick with:
>popped out the CMOS BATTERY (could not spot the clear cmos jumpers at the
>time).
>
>Anyway THAT did the trick. I had upgraded the bios about a week ago and I
>finally remember an Asus board I had, that I had to clear the CMOS after a
>certain point as simply restoring to the default bios settings wouldn't do
>it. Don't know if there are lingering artifacts or what but it's great to
>have my old machine back, lol. 10 minutes to encode a DVD rather than 4
>hours

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Re: [H] TEST

[Brian Weeden]

10-4
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[H] -N- MS Releases update for Dual Core PC owners

[Chris Reeves]

http://support.microsoft.com/?id=896256

 

Get it while it’s hot.

 

 

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Re: [H] -N- MS Releases update for Dual Core PC owners

[Greg Sevart]

Anyone have the hotfix file?
Looks like MS wants you to fill out a support request to get it, and that 
support request requires a Product ID, and they won't provide free support 
to an OEM Product ID...and I don't feel like getting the Product ID from my 
laptop (the rest of my machines are OEM)...


Greg

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http://support.microsoft.com/?id=896256

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RE: [H] -N- MS Releases update for Dual Core PC owners

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Direct link to the file:

http://www.amdzone.com/files/WinXPdualcorehotfix.exe




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Anyone have the hotfix file?
Looks like MS wants you to fill out a support request to get it, and that 
support request requires a Product ID, and they won't provide free support 
to an OEM Product ID...and I don't feel like getting the Product ID from my 
laptop (the rest of my machines are OEM)...

Greg

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Subject: [H] -N- MS Releases update for Dual Core PC owners


http://support.microsoft.com/?id=896256

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Re: [H] SOLVED MY PROBLEMO was HELP ON Speed

[warpmedia]

Registers, where you keep the CACHE! Sorry, couldn't resist. =)

No surprise needing CCMOS as there are things stored in areas that may 
end up being remapped to other uses with newer firmware and clearing is 
STOP when upgrading for that reason.


FORC5 wrote:

had a Tyan tech once tell me that the CCMOS does more then just clear the 
registry something about registers ( what ever that is )
fp

At 06:01 PM 10/9/2005, rls Poked the stick with:


popped out the CMOS BATTERY (could not spot the clear cmos jumpers at the
time).

Anyway THAT did the trick. I had upgraded the bios about a week ago and I
finally remember an Asus board I had, that I had to clear the CMOS after a
certain point as simply restoring to the default bios settings wouldn't do
it. Don't know if there are lingering artifacts or what but it's great to
have my old machine back, lol. 10 minutes to encode a DVD rather than 4
hours

Re: [H] -N- MS Releases update for Dual Core PC owners

[JRS]

Is this for hyperthreaded CPU's as well?  Not really dual-core, but they
act like it at times.  :)






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RE: [H] -N- MS Releases update for Dual Core PC owners

[Chris Reeves]

No.




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Is this for hyperthreaded CPU's as well?  Not really dual-core, but they
act like it at times.  :)






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