Re: [H] is this OT enough for Friday?

[W. D.]

At 13:11 1/6/2006, G.Waleed Kavalec wrote:
>The published works are legit and mainstream but right?  Who knows.
>
>
>On 1/6/06, Gary VanderMolen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
>wrote:
>>Sounds about as believable as the Cold Fusion claims in 1989.
>>
>>Gary VanderMolen
>>
>>
>>- Original Message -
>>Welcome to Mars express: only a three hour trip IAN JOHNSTON SCIENCE

Physicists are working on creating miniature black holes:
http://www.google.com/search?q=create+miniature+black+holes

If they prove successful, then this requires a "theory of
everything" (Grand Unification Theory) that includes more 
than 3 dimensions of space and 1 of time.  

Even present day quantum theory contradicts our everyday
"Newtonian" mindset.  Many theories require that
the vacuum state or "unified field" possess an energy
density per cubic centimeter to be greater than the energy 
contained in all atoms in the entire universe:



So, anything is possible.  Just imagine someone from the
1600's stepping into our world.  Things that we take for
granted would be incomprehensible to that person.  

Who woulda thunk even 20 years ago you could ever buy a 
100 gig drive for a hundred bucks?  ;^)





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[H] The CRAAAAAW Part Trois

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Re: [H] is this OT enough for Friday?

[Brian Weeden]

Time can move faster/slower but cannot go backwards.  So some time
will have passed after you left - but the exact amount of time that
has passed will be different for you as opposed to someone else.

On 1/6/06, Mark Dodge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I thought the way it works is everyone here would age more than you do
> traveling?
>
>
> Mark Dodge
> MD Computers
> 360-772-2433
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Reeves
> Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 1:47 PM
> To: 'The Hardware List'
> Subject: RE: [H] is this OT enough for Friday?
>
> No, not really.  Your aspect looks at all time as breaking with relativity
> as you travel FTL.  FTL still takes "time" it's just perceptive time.. if
> you actually did go FTL, time would still transverse between the places.
> Relativistic speeds take place until you hit the barrier of FTL, but after
> that, it should become transitive.
>
> So, if the flight took 3 hours there, three hours back, the time you spent
> on Mars still progresses, and you arrive back still 3 hours relative to your
> initial starting point after you leave ;)
>
> So, no time travel :)
>
>
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> Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 2:08 PM
> To: The Hardware List
> Subject: Re: [H] is this OT enough for Friday?
>
> On 1/6/06, Thane Sherrington (S) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> At 03:48 PM 06/01/2006, CW wrote:
> >I have no problems with "blue sky" research, the idea of following up
> >even the wildest of theoretical ideas to see if they have any
> >viability.Even if totally wrong, the work that would be done would
> >provide research; reminds me of something a physicist once told me:
> >even if you fall on yourface, you're six feet closer to where you want to
> go.
>
> I like that.Thomas Edison failed hundreds of times to create a light bulb
> and when asked if the failures discouraged him, he said something like "They
> aren't failures.I have succeeded in proving that those methods don't
> work."
>
> I hope they go for it.I'd love to spend a week on Mars or go for a cruise
> around Jupiter.
>
>
> Of course if the FTL component works, things will get weird.
>
> Returning from a trip to find you didn't leave due to rescheduling.
>
> Returning from a longer trip to find the last election turned out different
> than you remember (no I don't have tickets).
>
> Even longer trip, come back to a North America that never left Britain...
>
>
>
>
>


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RE: [H] is this OT enough for Friday?

[CW]

Correct.

If I travel at near relativistic speeds (let's say .99 light years) and I go to 
a nearby star, for each hour that would pass for me, months would pass for 
those at home.

:)

But if you go FASTER, the tipping point comes into play.  It's all a theory, 
but it's an interesting one.

CW

-Original message-
From: "Mark Dodge" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 06 Jan 2006 16:45:45 -0600
To: "'The Hardware List'" hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: RE: [H] is this OT enough for Friday?

> I thought the way it works is everyone here would age more than you do
> traveling? 
> 
> 
> Mark Dodge
> MD Computers
> 360-772-2433 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Reeves
> Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 1:47 PM
> To: 'The Hardware List'
> Subject: RE: [H] is this OT enough for Friday?
> 
> No, not really.  Your aspect looks at all time as breaking with relativity
> as you travel FTL.  FTL still takes �time� it�s just perceptive time.. 
> if
> you actually did go FTL, time would still transverse between the places.
> Relativistic speeds take place until you hit the barrier of FTL, but after
> that, it should become transitive.
> 
> So, if the flight took 3 hours there, three hours back, the time you spent
> on Mars still progresses, and you arrive back still 3 hours relative to your
> initial starting point after you leave ;)
> 
> So, no time travel :)
> 
> 
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of G.Waleed Kavalec
> Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 2:08 PM
> To: The Hardware List
> Subject: Re: [H] is this OT enough for Friday?
> 
> On 1/6/06, Thane Sherrington (S) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> At 03:48 PM 06/01/2006, CW wrote:
> >I have no problems with "blue sky" research, the idea of following up 
> >even the wildest of theoretical ideas to see if they have any 
> >viability.��Even if totally wrong, the work that would be done would 
> >provide research; reminds me of something a physicist once told me: 
> >even if you fall on your��face, you're six feet closer to where you want 
> >to
> go.
> 
> I like that.��Thomas Edison failed hundreds of times to create a light 
> bulb
> and when asked if the failures discouraged him, he said something like "They
> aren't failures.��I have succeeded in proving that those methods don't
> work."
> 
> I hope they go for it.��I'd love to spend a week on Mars or go for a 
> cruise
> around Jupiter.
> 
> 
> Of course if the FTL component works, things will get weird. 
> 
> Returning from a trip to find you didn't leave due to rescheduling.
> 
> Returning from a longer trip to find the last election turned out different
> than you remember (no I don't have tickets).
> 
> Even longer trip, come back to a North America that never left Britain...
> 
> 
> 
> 

RE: [H] REMINDER: BSG

[Alex]

Thank you so much, I totally forgot! Time to set the Tivo again 

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of joeuser
> Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 2:21 PM
> To: The Hardware List
> Subject: [H] REMINDER: BSG
> 
> The new BSG season starts tonight on Sci-Fi...
> 
> --
> Cheers,
> joeuser (still looking for the 'any' key)
> 

Re: [H] REMINDER: BSG

[warpmedia]

Whoo, glued to the seat already, remote in hand...


joeuser wrote:

The new BSG season starts tonight on Sci-Fi...

Re: [H] REMINDER: BSG

[jeff.lane]

Don't forget SG-1 and Atlantis...the two hours 
prior.



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To: "The Hardware List" 
Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 2:20 PM
Subject: [H] REMINDER: BSG



The new BSG season starts tonight on Sci-Fi...

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RE: [H] is this OT enough for Friday?

[Mark Dodge]

I thought the way it works is everyone here would age more than you do
traveling? 


Mark Dodge
MD Computers
360-772-2433 
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Reeves
Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 1:47 PM
To: 'The Hardware List'
Subject: RE: [H] is this OT enough for Friday?

No, not really.  Your aspect looks at all time as breaking with relativity
as you travel FTL.  FTL still takes “time” it’s just perceptive time.. if
you actually did go FTL, time would still transverse between the places.
Relativistic speeds take place until you hit the barrier of FTL, but after
that, it should become transitive.

So, if the flight took 3 hours there, three hours back, the time you spent
on Mars still progresses, and you arrive back still 3 hours relative to your
initial starting point after you leave ;)

So, no time travel :)


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Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 2:08 PM
To: The Hardware List
Subject: Re: [H] is this OT enough for Friday?

On 1/6/06, Thane Sherrington (S) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
At 03:48 PM 06/01/2006, CW wrote:
>I have no problems with "blue sky" research, the idea of following up 
>even the wildest of theoretical ideas to see if they have any 
>viability.  Even if totally wrong, the work that would be done would 
>provide research; reminds me of something a physicist once told me: 
>even if you fall on your  face, you're six feet closer to where you want to
go.

I like that.  Thomas Edison failed hundreds of times to create a light bulb
and when asked if the failures discouraged him, he said something like "They
aren't failures.  I have succeeded in proving that those methods don't
work."

I hope they go for it.  I'd love to spend a week on Mars or go for a cruise
around Jupiter.


Of course if the FTL component works, things will get weird. 

Returning from a trip to find you didn't leave due to rescheduling.

Returning from a longer trip to find the last election turned out different
than you remember (no I don't have tickets).

Even longer trip, come back to a North America that never left Britain...

[H] REMINDER: BSG

[joeuser]

The new BSG season starts tonight on Sci-Fi...

--
Cheers,
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RE: [H] is this OT enough for Friday?

[FORC5]

party poop 8-)
At 02:46 PM 1/6/2006, Chris Reeves Poked the stick with:
No, not really.  Your
aspect looks at all time as breaking with relativity
as you travel FTL.  FTL still takes “time” it’s just perceptive
time.. if
you actually did go FTL, time would still transverse between the
places.
Relativistic speeds take place until you hit the barrier of FTL, but
after
that, it should become transitive.
So, if the flight took 3 hours there, three hours back, the time you
spent
on Mars still progresses, and you arrive back still 3 hours relative to
your
initial starting point after you leave ;)
So, no time travel :)

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mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of G.Waleed
Kavalec
Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 2:08 PM
To: The Hardware List
Subject: Re: [H] is this OT enough for Friday?
On 1/6/06, Thane Sherrington (S) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
At 03:48 PM 06/01/2006, CW wrote:
>I have no problems with "blue sky" research, the idea of
following up even
>the wildest of theoretical ideas to see if they have any
viability.  Even
>if totally wrong, the work that would be done would provide research;

>reminds me of something a physicist once told me: even if you fall
on
>your  face, you're six feet closer to where you want to
go.
I like that.  Thomas Edison failed hundreds of times to create a
light bulb 
and when asked if the failures discouraged him, he said something
like
"They aren't failures.  I have succeeded in proving that those
methods
don't work."
I hope they go for it.  I'd love to spend a week on Mars or go for a
cruise 
around Jupiter.

Of course if the FTL component works, things will get weird. 
Returning from a trip to find you didn't leave due to
rescheduling.
Returning from a longer trip to find the last election turned out
different
than you remember (no I don't have tickets).
Even longer trip, come back to a North America that never left
Britain...

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RE: [H] is this OT enough for Friday?

[Chris Reeves]

No, not really.  Your aspect looks at all time as breaking with relativity
as you travel FTL.  FTL still takes “time” it’s just perceptive time.. if
you actually did go FTL, time would still transverse between the places.
Relativistic speeds take place until you hit the barrier of FTL, but after
that, it should become transitive.

So, if the flight took 3 hours there, three hours back, the time you spent
on Mars still progresses, and you arrive back still 3 hours relative to your
initial starting point after you leave ;)

So, no time travel :)


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of G.Waleed Kavalec
Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 2:08 PM
To: The Hardware List
Subject: Re: [H] is this OT enough for Friday?

On 1/6/06, Thane Sherrington (S) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
At 03:48 PM 06/01/2006, CW wrote:
>I have no problems with "blue sky" research, the idea of following up even
>the wildest of theoretical ideas to see if they have any viability.  Even
>if totally wrong, the work that would be done would provide research; 
>reminds me of something a physicist once told me: even if you fall on
>your  face, you're six feet closer to where you want to go.

I like that.  Thomas Edison failed hundreds of times to create a light bulb 
and when asked if the failures discouraged him, he said something like
"They aren't failures.  I have succeeded in proving that those methods
don't work."

I hope they go for it.  I'd love to spend a week on Mars or go for a cruise 
around Jupiter.


Of course if the FTL component works, things will get weird. 

Returning from a trip to find you didn't leave due to rescheduling.

Returning from a longer trip to find the last election turned out different
than you remember (no I don't have tickets).

Even longer trip, come back to a North America that never left Britain...

Re: [H] A PC is not an appliance

[Wayne Johnson]

At 01:50 PM 1/6/2006, Thane Sherrington (S) typed:

Everyone thinking about buying a PC, or whining about how hard they 
are to use, should be forced to read it.


Gee, I hope they don't. I want them buying toasters thinking they can 
produce the next great movie on it because that's when they call me. 
They never call before they decide to buy one & they would never call 
if they never buy one so please don't change a thing.


OBTW I'll tell the furnace repair man that appliances aren't ever 
suppose to break down when he hands me the bill & see how far or how 
warm I'll be this winter.



--+--
   Wayne D. Johnson
Ashland, OH, USA 44805
 

Re: [H] Microsoft patch

[Wayne Johnson]

At 02:53 PM 1/6/2006, Julian Zottl typed:
Isn't that the article that says that any e-mail is considered 
dangerous and searchable if it contains the key word "the"? :)


Only if it appears in the subject line but if it appears in the body 
we yanks just say, "thank you". ;-)



--+--
   Wayne D. Johnson
Ashland, OH, USA 44805
 

Re: [H] is this OT enough for Friday?

[G.Waleed Kavalec]

On 1/6/06, Thane Sherrington (S) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
At 03:48 PM 06/01/2006, CW wrote:>I have no problems with "blue sky" research, the idea of following up even>the wildest of theoretical ideas to see if they have any viability.  Even>if totally wrong, the work that would be done would provide research;
>reminds me of something a physicist once told me: even if you fall on>your  face, you're six feet closer to where you want to go.I like that.  Thomas Edison failed hundreds of times to create a light bulb
and when asked if the failures discouraged him, he said something like"They aren't failures.  I have succeeded in proving that those methodsdon't work."I hope they go for it.  I'd love to spend a week on Mars or go for a cruise
around Jupiter.

Of course if the FTL component works, things will get weird. 

Returning from a trip to find you didn't leave due to rescheduling.

Returning from a longer trip to find the last election turned out different than you remember (no I don't have tickets).

Even longer trip, come back to a North America that never left Britain...

Re: [H] is this OT enough for Friday?

[Thane Sherrington (S)]

At 03:48 PM 06/01/2006, CW wrote:
I have no problems with "blue sky" research, the idea of following up even 
the wildest of theoretical ideas to see if they have any viability.  Even 
if totally wrong, the work that would be done would provide research; 
reminds me of something a physicist once told me: even if you fall on 
your  face, you're six feet closer to where you want to go.


I like that.  Thomas Edison failed hundreds of times to create a light bulb 
and when asked if the failures discouraged him, he said something like 
"They aren't failures.  I have succeeded in proving that those methods 
don't work."


I hope they go for it.  I'd love to spend a week on Mars or go for a cruise 
around Jupiter.


T 

Re: [H] is this OT enough for Friday?

[CW]

True.  But then again, sometimes very stupid ideas are correct.  Realize, 
hundreds of people thought Galileo was a total idiot; just because an idea 
seems totally idiotic.. you never know unless you give it a  whirl :)

I have no problems with "blue sky" research, the idea of following up even the 
wildest of theoretical ideas to see if they have any viability.  Even if 
totally wrong, the work that would be done would provide research; reminds me 
of something a physicist once told me: even if you fall on your  face, you're 
six feet closer to where you want to go.

:)

-Original message-
From: "Gary VanderMolen" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 06 Jan 2006 12:48:13 -0600
To: "The Hardware List" hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] is this OT enough for Friday?

> Sounds about as believable as the Cold Fusion claims in 1989.
> 
> Gary VanderMolen
> 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> Welcome to Mars express: only a three hour trip IAN JOHNSTON SCIENCE
> [snip]
> 
> 

Re: [H] Microsoft patch

[Julian Zottl]

Isn't that the article that says that any e-mail is considered dangerous and 
searchable if it contains the key word "the"? :)
_
Julian Zottl
CTO, Radiant Network Technology, LLC
Getting ahead in the tech sector isn't about kissing butt ... you gotta sniff 
the right packets



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From: "Thane Sherrington (S)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: The Hardware List 
Date:  Fri, 06 Jan 2006 14:45:50 -0400

>At 02:28 PM 06/01/2006, Robert Turnbull wrote:
>>At 01:01 PM 1-06-06 +, Ben Ruset  wrote:
>>
>>>This is the third time that this has been posted. :)
>>Ben, my email was sent at 7PM , Toronto time, yesterday.
>>I received an email saying the it was being held for review ???
>
>All Canadian e-mails are held for review under section 1171, subsection 12, 
>paragraph 4 of the Homeland Security Act.
>
>
>
>
>:)
>
>T 
>
>

Re: [H] is this OT enough for Friday?

[G.Waleed Kavalec]

The published works are legit and mainstream but right?  Who knows.
On 1/6/06, Gary VanderMolen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Sounds about as believable as the Cold Fusion claims in 1989.Gary VanderMolen- Original Message -Welcome to Mars express: only a three hour trip IAN JOHNSTON SCIENCE[snip]
--  G. Waleed Kavalec-Why are we all in this handbasket  and where is it going so fast? http://www.kavalec.com/thisisislam.swf

[H] A PC is not an appliance

[Thane Sherrington (S)]

Great article by Dvorak.

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1895,1907510,00.asp

Everyone thinking about buying a PC, or whining about how hard they are to 
use, should be forced to read it.


T

Re: [H] is this OT enough for Friday?

[Gary VanderMolen]

Sounds about as believable as the Cold Fusion claims in 1989.

Gary VanderMolen


- Original Message - 
Welcome to Mars express: only a three hour trip IAN JOHNSTON SCIENCE

[snip]

Re: [H] Microsoft patch

[Thane Sherrington (S)]

At 02:28 PM 06/01/2006, Robert Turnbull wrote:

At 01:01 PM 1-06-06 +, Ben Ruset  wrote:


This is the third time that this has been posted. :)

Ben, my email was sent at 7PM , Toronto time, yesterday.
I received an email saying the it was being held for review ???


All Canadian e-mails are held for review under section 1171, subsection 12, 
paragraph 4 of the Homeland Security Act.





:)

T 

[H] Microsoft patch

[Robert Turnbull]

At 01:01 PM 1-06-06 +, Ben Ruset  wrote:


This is the third time that this has been posted. :)


Ben, my email was sent at 7PM , Toronto time, yesterday.

I received an email saying the it was being held for review ???




Robert Turnbull, Toronto, Canada

Re: [H] is this OT enough for Friday?

[jeff.lane]

Keep 'em comin'

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  G.Waleed 
  Kavalec 
  To: NT System Admin Issues 
  ; The Hardware List 
  Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 9:46 
  AM
  Subject: [H] is this OT enough for 
  Friday?
  
  
  Welcome to Mars express: only a three hour trip
  IAN JOHNSTON SCIENCE CORRESPONDENT 
  AN EXTRAORDINARY "hyperspace" engine that could make interstellar space 
  travel a reality by flying into other dimensions is being investigated by the 
  United States government. 
  The hypothetical device, which has been outlined in principle but is based 
  on a controversial theory about the fabric of the universe, could potentially 
  allow a spacecraft to travel to Mars in three hours and journey to a star 11 
  light years away in just 80 days, according to a report in today's New 
  Scientist magazine. 
  The theoretical engine works by creating an intense magnetic field that, 
  according to ideas first developed by the late scientist Burkhard Heim in the 
  1950s, would produce a gravitational field and result in thrust for a 
  spacecraft. 
  Also, if a large enough magnetic field was created, the craft would slip 
  into a different dimension, where the speed of light is faster, allowing 
  incredible speeds to be reached. Switching off the magnetic field would result 
  in the engine reappearing in our current dimension. 
  The US air force has expressed an interest in the idea and scientists 
  working for the American Department of Energy - which has a device known as 
  the Z Machine that could generate the kind of magnetic fields required to 
  drive the engine - say they may carry out a test if the theory withstands 
  further scrutiny. 
  Professor Jochem Hauser, one of the scientists who put forward the idea, 
  told The Scotsman that if everything went well a working engine could be 
  tested in about five years. 
  However, Prof Hauser, a physicist at the Applied Sciences University in 
  Salzgitter, Germany, and a former chief of aerodynamics at the European Space 
  Agency, cautioned it was based on a highly controversial theory that would 
  require a significant change in the current understanding of the laws of 
  physics. 
  "It would be amazing. I have been working on propulsion systems for quite a 
  while and it would be the most amazing thing. The benefits would be almost 
  unlimited," he said. 
  "But this thing is not around the corner; we first have to prove the basic 
  science is correct and there are quite a few physicists who have a different 
  opinion. 
  "It's our job to prove we are right and we are working on that." 
  He said the engine would enable spaceships to travel to different solar 
  systems. "If the theory is correct then this is not science fiction, it is 
  science fact," Prof Hauser said. 
  "NASA have contacted me and next week I'm going to see someone from the 
  [US] air force to talk about it further, but it is at a very early stage. I 
  think the best-case scenario would be within the next five years [to build a 
  test device] if the technology works." 
  The US authorities' attention was attracted after Prof Hauser and an 
  Austrian colleague, Walter Droscher, wrote a paper called "Guidelines for a 
  space propulsion device based on Heim's quantum theory".-- wouldn't it be 
  cool?-- 
  
  

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[H] is this OT enough for Friday?

[G.Waleed Kavalec]

Welcome to Mars express: only a three hour trip




	IAN JOHNSTON SCIENCE CORRESPONDENT 


AN EXTRAORDINARY "hyperspace" engine that could make interstellar
space travel a reality by flying into other dimensions is being
investigated by the United States government. 

The hypothetical device, which has been outlined in principle but is
based on a controversial theory about the fabric of the universe, could
potentially allow a spacecraft to travel to Mars in three hours and
journey to a star 11 light years away in just 80 days, according to a
report in today's New Scientist magazine. 
The theoretical engine works by creating an intense magnetic field
that, according to ideas first developed by the late scientist Burkhard
Heim in the 1950s, would produce a gravitational field and result in
thrust for a spacecraft. 

Also, if a large enough magnetic field was created, the craft would
slip into a different dimension, where the speed of light is faster,
allowing incredible speeds to be reached. Switching off the magnetic
field would result in the engine reappearing in our current dimension. 

The US air force has expressed an interest in the idea and
scientists working for the American Department of Energy - which has a
device known as the Z Machine that could generate the kind of magnetic
fields required to drive the engine - say they may carry out a test if
the theory withstands further scrutiny. 

Professor Jochem Hauser, one of the scientists who put forward the
idea, told The Scotsman that if everything went well a working engine
could be tested in about five years. 

However, Prof Hauser, a physicist at the Applied Sciences University
in Salzgitter, Germany, and a former chief of aerodynamics at the
European Space Agency, cautioned it was based on a highly controversial
theory that would require a significant change in the current
understanding of the laws of physics. 

"It would be amazing. I have been working on propulsion systems for
quite a while and it would be the most amazing thing. The benefits
would be almost unlimited," he said. 

"But this thing is not around the corner; we first have to prove the
basic science is correct and there are quite a few physicists who have
a different opinion. 

"It's our job to prove we are right and we are working on that." 

He said the engine would enable spaceships to travel to different
solar systems. "If the theory is correct then this is not science
fiction, it is science fact," Prof Hauser said. 

"NASA have contacted me and next week I'm going to see someone from
the [US] air force to talk about it further, but it is at a very early
stage. I think the best-case scenario would be within the next five
years [to build a test device] if the technology works." 

The US authorities' attention was attracted after Prof Hauser and an
Austrian colleague, Walter Droscher, wrote a paper called "Guidelines
for a space propulsion device based on Heim's quantum theory".


--  wouldn't it be cool?

-- 

Re: [H] Microsoft patch

[Ben Ruset]

Yeah. I was surprised to see mine start reporting in so quickly.

The only annoying thing is that it seems that if the user is logged in 
it will prompt for a restart instead of just doing it.


Greg Sevart wrote:
This whole issue was the final straw for me to implement WSUS as 
well...13.5GB of updates!
Was kinda neat to make the GP change and watch the machines slowly start 
to report in to WSUS...




Greg

- Original Message - From: "Ben Ruset" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "The Hardware List" 
Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 11:07 AM
Subject: Re: [H] Microsoft patch


The cool thing is I just deployed WSUS and all of my machines in AD 
auto-updated themselves with the patch.


Al wrote:

Ben Ruset <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


This is the third time that this has been posted. :)


Third time is the charm  :)

best,
al

Re: [H] Microsoft patch

[Greg Sevart]

This whole issue was the final straw for me to implement WSUS as 
well...13.5GB of updates!
Was kinda neat to make the GP change and watch the machines slowly start to 
report in to WSUS...




Greg

- Original Message - 
From: "Ben Ruset" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "The Hardware List" 
Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 11:07 AM
Subject: Re: [H] Microsoft patch


The cool thing is I just deployed WSUS and all of my machines in AD 
auto-updated themselves with the patch.


Al wrote:

Ben Ruset <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


This is the third time that this has been posted. :)


Third time is the charm  :)

best,
al

Re: [H] WMF fix out

[Veech]

Same with me, it was as simple as windows telling me an update was 
available, I installed it.  Same patch as you detailed.  I assume this 
"fixed' the problem..



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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "The Hardware List" 
Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 5:28 AM
Subject: Re: [H] WMF fix out




- Original Message - 
From: "warpmedia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "The Hardware List" 
Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 9:06 PM
Subject: Re: [H] WMF fix out


But nowhere in the advisory posted is the term "WMF" was more what I was 
trying to say. On closer inspection is does mention WMF only to say this 
advisory is not related.




I may not be talking about the same thing here (correct me if I am wrong) 
but I did not download and install the third party (I guess) patch 
software for the recent issues. I waited for and downloaded KB912919 
yesterday and installed it. I am sure many who installed the other one 
will forget to uninstall it prior to installing KB912919. Many forget to 
reboot after each uninstall and install.


Chuck 

Re: [H] Microsoft patch

[Ben Ruset]

The cool thing is I just deployed WSUS and all of my machines in AD 
auto-updated themselves with the patch.


Al wrote:

Ben Ruset <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


This is the third time that this has been posted. :)


Third time is the charm  :)

best,
al

Re: [H] Microsoft patch

[Al]

Ben Ruset <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> This is the third time that this has been posted. :)

Third time is the charm  :)

best,
al

Re: [H] Microsoft patch

[Ben Ruset]

This is the third time that this has been posted. :)

Robert Turnbull wrote:

Responding to an outcry from the tech community, Microsoft said it will
release a critical patch at around 2:00 p.m. Thursday instead of waiting 
until

next week.




Robert Turnbull, Toronto, Canada

Re: [H] WMF fix out

[chuck]

- Original Message - 
From: "warpmedia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "The Hardware List" 
Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 9:06 PM
Subject: Re: [H] WMF fix out


But nowhere in the advisory posted is the term "WMF" was more what I was 
trying to say. On closer inspection is does mention WMF only to say this 
advisory is not related.




I may not be talking about the same thing here (correct me if I am wrong) 
but I did not download and install the third party (I guess) patch software 
for the recent issues. I waited for and downloaded KB912919 yesterday and 
installed it. I am sure many who installed the other one will forget to 
uninstall it prior to installing KB912919. Many forget to reboot after each 
uninstall and install.


Chuck 

[H] Microsoft patch

[Robert Turnbull]

Responding to an outcry from the tech community, Microsoft said it will
release a critical patch at around 2:00 p.m. Thursday instead of waiting until
next week.




Robert Turnbull, Toronto, Canada