Re: [H] how to get web page to stop skimming my text
Control Panel Internet Options Advanced Search from the Address Bar Do not Search from the Address Bar Jim Edwards wrote: So I start ie with a page like comcast.net But I immediately want to put powerball in the address bar to go to powerball.com but midway through the entry the comcast.net hijacks the text to their 'search' space on the page. how can this be stopped?
Re: [SPAM SUSPECT] [H] What do you think about this laptop...
Better than Lenovo-foo-young IMO. RIP Thinkpad. I don't know what MCE is vs. home, but I never suggest anything less than Pro since there is no security settings in Home. Bobby Heid wrote: I came across a Dell Inspiron 6000 deal last night and went with it. This is what I got: Pentium M 735 (1.7GHz) 512MB RAM (free upgrade from 256)) XP Media Center Edition 2005 DVD writer - Dual layer (free upgrade) 1 Firewire port 4 USB 2.0 ports An SD (and another type) card reader 15.4 widescreen (1280 X 800) Intel PRO/Wireless 2200 Internal 6-cell battery 1 year mail-in warranty Before tax - $954 - $200MIR = $754. Not too bad a deal, I don't think. Bobby
Re: [H] Satellite to wireless Internet
Never mention morality as an issue when dealing with big co's like cable, phone, sat, etc... it demeans the term. Thane Sherrington (S) wrote: At 02:51 PM 15/02/2006, joeuser wrote: Which is probably a violation of the agreement with any of the Satellite providers also. I forgot to mention that. That's an issue he has to deal with. I simply provide the tools to allow people to do things. Legal and moral issues are outside of my purview. :) T
Re: [SPAM SUSPECT] [H] What do you think about this laptop...
Before you kill the Thinkpad - how many of them were probably made by Lenovo or even smaller shops before? The thing that made Thinkpads good buys - personal or especially corporate - was the commitment to supporting the models for quite a while after release, and the confidence that model #xyz always had the same spec or chipset for the life of that model #. You could find bios/driver updates for a few years after models were introduced, often spanning Win version releases, very few if any other manuf's did that. On 2/16/06, warpmedia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Better than Lenovo-foo-young IMO. RIP Thinkpad. I don't know what MCE is vs. home, but I never suggest anything less than Pro since there is no security settings in Home. Bobby Heid wrote: I came across a Dell Inspiron 6000 deal last night and went with it. This is what I got: Pentium M 735 (1.7GHz) 512MB RAM (free upgrade from 256)) XP Media Center Edition 2005 DVD writer - Dual layer (free upgrade) 1 Firewire port 4 USB 2.0 ports An SD (and another type) card reader 15.4 widescreen (1280 X 800) Intel PRO/Wireless 2200 Internal 6-cell battery 1 year mail-in warranty Before tax - $954 - $200MIR = $754. Not too bad a deal, I don't think. Bobby -- -jmg -sapere aude
RE: [H] Suggested tools for helping a friend with badvirus infestation
On Thu, 16 Feb 2006, Thane Sherrington (S) wrote: How you know that things are going well on the removals? If, as has been argued here, it is impossible to find all the malware on a machine, then it seems to me one could never be sure that removals are working. Is there a specific system you use to make this decision (if you want to reply off-list, feel free.) Sure, systems which really matter (Like Healthcare customers or pharmacy, etc) generally get the format treatment much faster than a home user. This is due to how sure we need to be. But very few machines that I see crash in safe mode, or do anything abnormal once I've completed the malware removal routines that I use. I'm still not sure what would make you realize that you hadn't successfully cleaned the machine. I'm interested because I'd like to incorporate your findings into my repair routine. We had a machine recently come in where filesystem permissions were all screwed up after removing a virus and cleaning off some spyware. We could certainly have gone through and made sure permissions on each folder were corrected, and that permissions on each file were corrected, but the amount of time to do that manually far outweighed the format/reinstall/restore data method we ultimately used. I'd never seen anything like it prior to that though, so I kind of think the filesystem itself was screwed up (Which spinrite didn't find any errors on the drive, and our scandisk tools didn't either, but eh) Sol most people are looking at $240 US for a repair? I'm definitely moving to your town. :) We do warrenty our repairs, so that is built into the price. Christopher Fisk -- Peter Griffin: Lois, When I'm through with them, our kids will be so smart, they'll be able to program their own VCRs without spilling piping hot gravy all over myself.
Re: [hardware] [H] Installer on startup
Nope and nope. I tried a bunch of those start up programs. None worked. However, I did manage to find out what was going on and how to stop it. First, it's related to a HP AIO install gone wrong. All one has to do is locate the msi's on the disc and then run them from there and they finally install and go away. It was looking for trayapp.msi and AIOsoftware.msi, the latter gave me a clue where to look. Problem solved. This appears to have effected a lot of HP users so be on the lookout down the road! Wayne Johnson wrote: When you run Silent_Runners.vbs it doesn't give you a clue ? I suppose you could open the script file up in notepad see where it's looking but it's pretty thorough. Thane Sherrington (S) wrote: Have you tried Autoruns? http://www.sysinternals.com/Utilities/Autoruns.html -- Cheers, joeuser (still looking for the 'any' key)
Re: [hardware] [H] Installer on startup
At 12:49 PM 16/02/2006, joeuser wrote: Nope and nope. I tried a bunch of those start up programs. None worked. However, I did manage to find out what was going on and how to stop it. First, it's related to a HP AIO install gone wrong. All one has to do is locate the msi's on the disc and then run them from there and they finally install and go away. It was looking for trayapp.msi and AIOsoftware.msi, the latter gave me a clue where to look. Problem solved. This appears to have effected a lot of HP users so be on the lookout down the road! Oh yeah, I've run into that. If you remove the HP applications from the startup group, the problem goes away. Or you can reinstall as you did. T
Re: [SPAM SUSPECT] [H] What do you think about this laptop...
Well made to IBM spec maybe, now it's Lenovo's baby. So I'd expect quality to drop while they ride on the brand name's success maximize profit w/o putting in new effort/$$$. As to IBM supporting, they certainly did not support at least one case I came across in the T something series(10, 20?) where the customer wanted to go form 95 to 98 or 9x to NT/2K (been ~7 years since) and there were no drivers or support. Laptops are a tough choice these days if you want your monies worth over the long haul. j m g wrote: Before you kill the Thinkpad - how many of them were probably made by Lenovo or even smaller shops before? The thing that made Thinkpads good buys - personal or especially corporate - was the commitment to supporting the models for quite a while after release, and the confidence that model #xyz always had the same spec or chipset for the life of that model #. You could find bios/driver updates for a few years after models were introduced, often spanning Win version releases, very few if any other manuf's did that. On 2/16/06, warpmedia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Better than Lenovo-foo-young IMO. RIP Thinkpad.
Re: [H] Suggested tools for helping a friend with badvirus infestation
That's where MS Security Configuration Analysis snap-in combined with security templates are your friend. Christopher Fisk wrote: We had a machine recently come in where filesystem permissions were all screwed up after removing a virus and cleaning off some spyware. We could certainly have gone through and made sure permissions on each folder were corrected, and that permissions on each file were corrected, but the amount of time to do that manually far outweighed the format/reinstall/restore data method we ultimately used. I'd never seen anything like it prior to that though, so I kind of think the filesystem itself was screwed up (Which spinrite didn't find any errors on the drive, and our scandisk tools didn't either, but eh)
Re: [hardware] [H] Installer on startup
Does that goof anything up when you remove them? I was reluctant to remove any of the HP crap from starting because I didn't want to break the access to the printer. Thane Sherrington (S) wrote: At 12:49 PM 16/02/2006, joeuser wrote: Nope and nope. I tried a bunch of those start up programs. None worked. However, I did manage to find out what was going on and how to stop it. First, it's related to a HP AIO install gone wrong. All one has to do is locate the msi's on the disc and then run them from there and they finally install and go away. It was looking for trayapp.msi and AIOsoftware.msi, the latter gave me a clue where to look. Problem solved. This appears to have effected a lot of HP users so be on the lookout down the road! Oh yeah, I've run into that. If you remove the HP applications from the startup group, the problem goes away. Or you can reinstall as you did. T -- Cheers, joeuser (still looking for the 'any' key)
Re: [hardware] [H] Installer on startup
depends on the printer, my psc 2210 does not need them fp At 10:30 AM 2/16/2006, joeuser Poked the stick with: Does that goof anything up when you remove them? I was reluctant to remove any of the HP crap from starting because I didn't want to break the access to the printer. Thane Sherrington (S) wrote: At 12:49 PM 16/02/2006, joeuser wrote: Nope and nope. I tried a bunch of those start up programs. None worked. However, I did manage to find out what was going on and how to stop it. First, it's related to a HP AIO install gone wrong. All one has to do is locate the msi's on the disc and then run them from there and they finally install and go away. It was looking for trayapp.msi and AIOsoftware.msi, the latter gave me a clue where to look. Problem solved. This appears to have effected a lot of HP users so be on the lookout down the road! Oh yeah, I've run into that. If you remove the HP applications from the startup group, the problem goes away. Or you can reinstall as you did. T -- Cheers, joeuser (still looking for the 'any' key) -- Tallyho ! ]:8) Taglines below ! -- No one can think clearly with clenched fists.
Re: [SPAM SUSPECT] [H] What do you think about this laptop...
Hmmm, my wife's 600X which predates the T series has XP running on it with no problems, XP picked everything up - built in modem, nic, video and sound, I don't believe I went to IBM's site for anything more than bios though. On 2/16/06, warpmedia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well made to IBM spec maybe, now it's Lenovo's baby. So I'd expect quality to drop while they ride on the brand name's success maximize profit w/o putting in new effort/$$$. As to IBM supporting, they certainly did not support at least one case I came across in the T something series(10, 20?) where the customer wanted to go form 95 to 98 or 9x to NT/2K (been ~7 years since) and there were no drivers or support. Laptops are a tough choice these days if you want your monies worth over the long haul. j m g wrote: Before you kill the Thinkpad - how many of them were probably made by Lenovo or even smaller shops before? The thing that made Thinkpads good buys - personal or especially corporate - was the commitment to supporting the models for quite a while after release, and the confidence that model #xyz always had the same spec or chipset for the life of that model #. You could find bios/driver updates for a few years after models were introduced, often spanning Win version releases, very few if any other manuf's did that. On 2/16/06, warpmedia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Better than Lenovo-foo-young IMO. RIP Thinkpad. -- -jmg -sapere aude
Re: [hardware] [H] Installer on startup
At 01:30 PM 16/02/2006, joeuser wrote: Does that goof anything up when you remove them? I was reluctant to remove any of the HP crap from starting because I didn't want to break the access to the printer. Hasn't in my experience. Why a printer requires programs in startup is beyond me. T
Re: [hardware] [H] Installer on startup
Yeah, that's why I like canon printers, less software bloat. Thane Sherrington (S) wrote: At 01:30 PM 16/02/2006, joeuser wrote: Does that goof anything up when you remove them? I was reluctant to remove any of the HP crap from starting because I didn't want to break the access to the printer. Hasn't in my experience. Why a printer requires programs in startup is beyond me. T -- Cheers, joeuser (still looking for the 'any' key)
Re: [hardware] [H] Installer on startup
At 03:42 PM 16/02/2006, joeuser wrote: Yeah, that's why I like canon printers, less software bloat. I didn't know that. Good to know. T
Re: [H] Suggested tools for helping a friend with badvirus infestation
At 01:16 PM 16/02/2006, warpmedia wrote: That's where MS Security Configuration Analysis snap-in combined with security templates are your friend. Christopher Fisk wrote: We had a machine recently come in where filesystem permissions were all screwed up after removing a virus and cleaning off some spyware. We could certainly have gone through and made sure permissions on each folder were corrected, and that permissions on each file were corrected, but the amount of time to do that manually far outweighed the format/reinstall/restore data method we ultimately used. I'd never seen anything like it prior to that though, so I kind of think the filesystem itself was screwed up (Which spinrite didn't find any errors on the drive, and our scandisk tools didn't either, but eh)
Re: [H] how to get web page to stop skimming my text
udaman At 2/16/2006 09:55 AM, Ben Ruset wrote: Control Panel Internet Options Advanced Search from the Address Bar Do not Search from the Address Bar Jim Edwards wrote: So I start ie with a page like comcast.net But I immediately want to put powerball in the address bar to go to powerball.com but midway through the entry the comcast.net hijacks the text to their 'search' space on the page. how can this be stopped? -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.9/261 - Release Date: 2/15/2006
Re: [hardware] [H] Installer on startup
At 02:42 PM 2/16/2006, Thane Sherrington (S) typed: Hasn't in my experience. Why a printer requires programs in startup is beyond me. One can always install the HP drivers without installing the apps but it has to be done manually as there is no install for this. I did it with my HP720 years ago again with the G55 that I have now so there is no bloat. --+-- Wayne D. Johnson Ashland, OH, USA 44805 http://www.wavijo.com
Re: [H] how to get web page to stop skimming my text
At 07:28 AM 2/16/2006, Jim Edwards typed: So I start ie with a page like comcast.net But I immediately want to put powerball in the address bar to go to powerball.com but midway through the entry the comcast.net hijacks the text to their 'search' space on the page. how can this be stopped? Hmmm, no problems here but I just copied pasted the url. I do searches from the address bar all the time so I wouldn't want that disabled. Once you have powerball.com bookmarked can you turn the searches back on then still get to the url ??? --+-- Wayne D. Johnson Ashland, OH, USA 44805 http://www.wavijo.com
[H] Some stats about infected machines
Here is a quote from a white paper from the University of Washington. In the span of just a few years, spyware has become the Internet's most popular download. A recent scan performed by AOL/NCSA of 329 customers' computers found that 80% were infected with spyware programs [2]. More shocking, each infected computer contained an average of 93 spyware components. The consequences of spyware infections can be severe, including inundating the victim with pop-up ads, stealing the victim's financial information or passwords, or rendering the victim's computer useless. I only mention this because of our recent conversation about tools and philosophy about infected machines. Now I don't know about the rest of you but I don't feel like hunting down 93 components and cleaning that out. But when we discussed cleaning vs reformatting I want to make clear that I only would reformat on an end users computer that was not under my control. If I had a computer that got infected with something that was very specific and I knew there was only one piece of malware on it then I would definitely prefer cleaning rather than reformatting. It's only in cases where the computer has been infected for long periods of time and was never protected to begin with. The white paper is good and is the type of projects we work on at work. Pretty fun stuff you can read the paper here http://www.cs.washington.edu/homes/gribble/papers/spycrawler.pdf
Re: [H] Some stats about infected machines
I wonder how much taxpayers $$ was used to state the obvious. fp At 04:46 PM 2/16/2006, Mesdaq, Ali Poked the stick with: Here is a quote from a white paper from the University of Washington. In the span of just a few years, spyware has become the Internet's most popular download. A recent scan performed by AOL/NCSA of 329 customers' computers found that 80% were infected with spyware programs [2]. More shocking, each infected computer contained an average of 93 spyware components. The consequences of spyware infections can be severe, including inundating the victim with pop-up ads, stealing the victim's financial information or passwords, or rendering the victim's computer useless. I only mention this because of our recent conversation about tools and philosophy about infected machines. Now I don't know about the rest of you but I don't feel like hunting down 93 components and cleaning that out. But when we discussed cleaning vs reformatting I want to make clear that I only would reformat on an end users computer that was not under my control. If I had a computer that got infected with something that was very specific and I knew there was only one piece of malware on it then I would definitely prefer cleaning rather than reformatting. It's only in cases where the computer has been infected for long periods of time and was never protected to begin with. The white paper is good and is the type of projects we work on at work. Pretty fun stuff you can read the paper here http://www.cs.washington.edu/homes/gribble/papers/spycrawler.pdf -- Tallyho ! ]:8) Taglines below ! -- You tell 'em Goldfish, you've been around the globe.
RE: [H] Some stats about infected machines
AOL! What the paper does not reveal is that almost all of the 93 spyware components get nuked on the spot by an updated adaware. It's ones remaining that can be tricky if there is not a turnkey removal tool for the average user. From: Mesdaq, Ali [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] Some stats about infected machines Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 15:46:47 -0800 Here is a quote from a white paper from the University of Washington. In the span of just a few years, spyware has become the Internet's most popular download. A recent scan performed by AOL/NCSA of 329 customers' computers found that 80% were infected with spyware programs [2]. More shocking, each infected computer contained an average of 93 spyware components. The consequences of spyware infections can be severe, including inundating the victim with pop-up ads, stealing the victim's financial information or passwords, or rendering the victim's computer useless. I only mention this because of our recent conversation about tools and philosophy about infected machines. Now I don't know about the rest of you but I don't feel like hunting down 93 components and cleaning that out. But when we discussed cleaning vs reformatting I want to make clear that I only would reformat on an end users computer that was not under my control. If I had a computer that got infected with something that was very specific and I knew there was only one piece of malware on it then I would definitely prefer cleaning rather than reformatting. It's only in cases where the computer has been infected for long periods of time and was never protected to begin with. The white paper is good and is the type of projects we work on at work. Pretty fun stuff you can read the paper here http://www.cs.washington.edu/homes/gribble/papers/spycrawler.pdf
Re: [SPAM SUSPECT] [H] What do you think about this laptop...
It was certainly pre-XP. XP is good like that with basic generic support for most everything made before it. j m g wrote: Hmmm, my wife's 600X which predates the T series has XP running on it with no problems, XP picked everything up - built in modem, nic, video and sound, I don't believe I went to IBM's site for anything more than bios though. On 2/16/06, warpmedia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well made to IBM spec maybe, now it's Lenovo's baby. So I'd expect quality to drop while they ride on the brand name's success maximize profit w/o putting in new effort/$$$. As to IBM supporting, they certainly did not support at least one case I came across in the T something series(10, 20?) where the customer wanted to go form 95 to 98 or 9x to NT/2K (been ~7 years since) and there were no drivers or support.
Re: [H] how to get web page to stop skimming my text
Wayne- Switch to Firefox, Ctrl-K is your friend! Jim- Focus is being shifted to the Comcast search field by javascript just before you start to type, thus you end up typing in the search field vs. address bar. I just opened the site sure enough that's what happens. Just another reason for About:blank as a startup page. Wayne Johnson wrote: At 07:28 AM 2/16/2006, Jim Edwards typed: So I start ie with a page like comcast.net But I immediately want to put powerball in the address bar to go to powerball.com but midway through the entry the comcast.net hijacks the text to their 'search' space on the page. how can this be stopped? Hmmm, no problems here but I just copied pasted the url. I do searches from the address bar all the time so I wouldn't want that disabled. Once you have powerball.com bookmarked can you turn the searches back on then still get to the url ??? --+-- Wayne D. Johnson Ashland, OH, USA 44805 http://www.wavijo.com
Re: [H] how to get web page to stop skimming my text
Or disable Javascript for that site. NoScript is the best extension ever. On 2/16/06, warpmedia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wayne- Switch to Firefox, Ctrl-K is your friend! Jim- Focus is being shifted to the Comcast search field by javascript just before you start to type, thus you end up typing in the search field vs. address bar. I just opened the site sure enough that's what happens. Just another reason for About:blank as a startup page. Wayne Johnson wrote: At 07:28 AM 2/16/2006, Jim Edwards typed: So I start ie with a page like comcast.net But I immediately want to put powerball in the address bar to go to powerball.com but midway through the entry the comcast.net hijacks the text to their 'search' space on the page. how can this be stopped? Hmmm, no problems here but I just copied pasted the url. I do searches from the address bar all the time so I wouldn't want that disabled. Once you have powerball.com bookmarked can you turn the searches back on then still get to the url ??? --+-- Wayne D. Johnson Ashland, OH, USA 44805 http://www.wavijo.com -- Brian
Re: [H] how to get web page to stop skimming my text
Whole heartedly agree with both statements! Brian Weeden wrote: Or disable Javascript for that site. NoScript is the best extension ever. On 2/16/06, warpmedia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wayne- Switch to Firefox, Ctrl-K is your friend! Jim- Focus is being shifted to the Comcast search field by javascript just before you start to type, thus you end up typing in the search field vs. address bar. I just opened the site sure enough that's what happens. Just another reason for About:blank as a startup page.
