RE: [H] PC Picture Links
Looks like a mini version of my PC-V2000B. Love the case--just wish it held even more drives. :) Greg > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardware- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim "The Beave" Lider > Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 9:02 PM > To: 'The Hardware List' > Subject: RE: [H] PC Picture Links > > The Case is Lian Li PC-V1000B PLUS II Black Aluminum Mid-Tower Case with > Window Modified by Performance PC's and I. The next case I am looking at is > the Silverstone TJ09. > > Tim "The Beave" Lider > E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Al > Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 10:36 AM > To: The Hardware List > Subject: Re: [H] PC Picture Links > > > "Tim \"The Beave\" Lider" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Give me a few days. I need to clean it out anyway. > > What case are you using? > > al >
RE: [H] PC Picture Links
The Case is Lian Li PC-V1000B PLUS II Black Aluminum Mid-Tower Case with Window Modified by Performance PC's and I. The next case I am looking at is the Silverstone TJ09. Tim "The Beave" Lider E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Al Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 10:36 AM To: The Hardware List Subject: Re: [H] PC Picture Links "Tim \"The Beave\" Lider" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Give me a few days. I need to clean it out anyway. What case are you using? al
Re: [H] PC Picture Links
That case, which is the Quad one, normally goes like, $170 or so. -Original message- From: "Raul Limos" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 17:31:22 -0600 To: "The Hardware List" hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] PC Picture Links > On 2/20/07, CW <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > The Thermaltake Armor & Kandalf are the most popular cases we stock at the > > moment. *shrug* lots of expandability. I tend to like thier styling, for > > what it's worth ;) > > I'm impressed by its roominess, does not get swallowed up those big > ass HSFs and long video cards. How much does this go around today? > Might buy one also. >
RE: [H] PC Picture Links
The way that fan mounts down is actually really solid. It's a four point bolt mount to the motherboard. And the fan itself is incredibly light. Using the bump pads on the top, it braces against the outer case door, so it's not going anywhere. Shipped seven, and I've had less problems with that fan then almost anything else ;) -Original message- From: DHSinclair [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 17:48:21 -0600 To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: RE: [H] PC Picture Links > Nice answer, but what about the HS/Cooler? > RU NOT getting my noise? > Best, > Duncan > At 17:03 02/19/2007 -0500, you wrote: > > >High demand on that case, actually.. we mostly build to order, so whatever > >the customer wants, it's what they get. > > > >The Thermaltake Armor & Kandalf are the most popular cases we stock at the > >moment. *shrug* lots of expandability. I tend to like thier styling, for > >what it's worth ;) > > > >CW > > > >-Original message- > >From: "Tim \"The Beave\" Lider" [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 10:12:45 -0600 > >To: "'The Hardware List'" hardware@hardwaregroup.com > >Subject: RE: [H] PC Picture Links > > > > > Nice computer. Kind of curious on why the Thermaltake case? Putting that > > > much gear in a case and do not get a case that will hide most of your > > > wiring. If you guys like I will take pictures of my current Gaming > > Computer. > > > > > > > > > Tim "The Beave" Lider > > > E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of CW > > > Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 6:28 AM > > > To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com > > > Subject: Re: [H] PC Picture Links > > > > > > The armor fully weighted (2 drives, 2 opticals, board, 2 GTX, etc.) is > > > 66lbs. So, heavy so & so. > > > > > > It's not really that much of a dust magnet. We sent one to NY a while > > > back > > > that was a dead silent 8800GTX build; water cooled CPU; water cooled > > > SLI-8800GTX. > > > > > > Bad thing about it: had to be Vista 64, and right now, Nvidia's driver > > > support for Vista, and especially Vista 64 SUCKS. Absolutely SUCKS. > > > > > > It's just one of those things.. in XP, he gets full SLI. In Vista 64, > > Vista > > > only sees 1 card, and he gets way slower performance. The 680i > > chipset, for > > > all of it's pros, has some issues still. Asus came out with the P5N32-E > > > Plus, which is a hybrid chipset, the 650 northbridge and the AMD 590 > > > southbridge.. so you get full x32 SLI, but it's so much more stable under > > > Vista 64 that it's sickening. Nothing wrong under Vista 32 or XP with the > > > 680i, but under Vista 64, the P5N32-E just slices and dices everything out > > > there. > > > > > > I'm going to try to take a lot of pictures today and post links, get this > > > list back on hardware. I checked the benches for what's being built and > > > at > > > least I can get some good pics of an AMD Quad system, and a few other > > > oddballs I can get some pictures of to post and get some hardware > > discussion > > > going :) > > > > > > FYI- > > > > > > I am piling up in the backchannel and have now heard from 12 people who > > > say > > > they can't post and keep getting bumped. Jim, my email to you bounces.. > > > things OK? > > > > > > CW > > > > > > -Original message- > > > From: "Raul Limos" [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 07:53:42 -0600 > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: Re: [H] PC Picture Links > > > > > > > On 2/19/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Yeah its an armor. We've been doing most lately in them. It is > > roomy and > > > easy to work with. I like the psu mount a lot > > > > > > > > > > We just sent out one in a silverstone tj09. Great case. But even > > for all > > > the pros going for it I still think the armor is the most functional > > > > > > > > Roomy case, but will dust collection be a problem? It says at the > > > > website there are filters for the grills. > > > > > > > > How about the weight with everything installed? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >__ NOD32 2070 (20070219) Information __ > > > >This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > >http://www.eset.com > > > This email scanned for Viruses and Spam by ZCloud.net > >
Re: [H] PC Picture Links
"Raul Limos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm impressed by its roominess, does not get swallowed up those big > ass HSFs and long video cards. How much does this go around today? > Might buy one also. Was lookin' at some; just under $200 al
RE: [H] PC Picture Links
Nice answer, but what about the HS/Cooler? RU NOT getting my noise? Best, Duncan At 17:03 02/19/2007 -0500, you wrote: High demand on that case, actually.. we mostly build to order, so whatever the customer wants, it's what they get. The Thermaltake Armor & Kandalf are the most popular cases we stock at the moment. *shrug* lots of expandability. I tend to like thier styling, for what it's worth ;) CW -Original message- From: "Tim \"The Beave\" Lider" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 10:12:45 -0600 To: "'The Hardware List'" hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: RE: [H] PC Picture Links > Nice computer. Kind of curious on why the Thermaltake case? Putting that > much gear in a case and do not get a case that will hide most of your > wiring. If you guys like I will take pictures of my current Gaming Computer. > > > Tim "The Beave" Lider > E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of CW > Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 6:28 AM > To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com > Subject: Re: [H] PC Picture Links > > The armor fully weighted (2 drives, 2 opticals, board, 2 GTX, etc.) is > 66lbs. So, heavy so & so. > > It's not really that much of a dust magnet. We sent one to NY a while back > that was a dead silent 8800GTX build; water cooled CPU; water cooled > SLI-8800GTX. > > Bad thing about it: had to be Vista 64, and right now, Nvidia's driver > support for Vista, and especially Vista 64 SUCKS. Absolutely SUCKS. > > It's just one of those things.. in XP, he gets full SLI. In Vista 64, Vista > only sees 1 card, and he gets way slower performance. The 680i chipset, for > all of it's pros, has some issues still. Asus came out with the P5N32-E > Plus, which is a hybrid chipset, the 650 northbridge and the AMD 590 > southbridge.. so you get full x32 SLI, but it's so much more stable under > Vista 64 that it's sickening. Nothing wrong under Vista 32 or XP with the > 680i, but under Vista 64, the P5N32-E just slices and dices everything out > there. > > I'm going to try to take a lot of pictures today and post links, get this > list back on hardware. I checked the benches for what's being built and at > least I can get some good pics of an AMD Quad system, and a few other > oddballs I can get some pictures of to post and get some hardware discussion > going :) > > FYI- > > I am piling up in the backchannel and have now heard from 12 people who say > they can't post and keep getting bumped. Jim, my email to you bounces.. > things OK? > > CW > > -Original message- > From: "Raul Limos" [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 07:53:42 -0600 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [H] PC Picture Links > > > On 2/19/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Yeah its an armor. We've been doing most lately in them. It is roomy and > easy to work with. I like the psu mount a lot > > > > > > We just sent out one in a silverstone tj09. Great case. But even for all > the pros going for it I still think the armor is the most functional > > > > Roomy case, but will dust collection be a problem? It says at the > > website there are filters for the grills. > > > > How about the weight with everything installed? > > > > > __ NOD32 2070 (20070219) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com This email scanned for Viruses and Spam by ZCloud.net
Re: [H] February AutoPatcher Updates
Hayes, Would you like to repeat that one? Some of us missed your big "c" word. Just wondering:) I know that you Know All Best, Duncan At 13:52 02/19/2007 -0500, you wrote: Patently stupid. Something like this in the age of practically free bandwidth should be cumilative, ala ryanvm.net From: Al Anger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: The Hardware List To: [EMAIL PROTECTED],The Hardware List Subject: Re: [H] February AutoPatcher Updates Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 13:26:50 -0700 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The latest Full version I have is November, 2006. I have that installed and > have ran it. Do I have to run the December update, then the January update > and then the current February update? Yes. > Or can I just run the February update > and it covers everything since November? Nope HTH, al _ Find a local pizza place, movie theater, and more .then map the best route! http://maps.live.com/?icid=hmtag1&FORM=MGAC01 __ NOD32 2070 (20070219) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com This email scanned for Viruses and Spam by ZCloud.net
Re: [H] PC Picture Links
On 2/20/07, CW <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The Thermaltake Armor & Kandalf are the most popular cases we stock at the moment. *shrug* lots of expandability. I tend to like thier styling, for what it's worth ;) I'm impressed by its roominess, does not get swallowed up those big ass HSFs and long video cards. How much does this go around today? Might buy one also.
[H] Then again...
I may have plenty of time to take pictures and notes on the FX-72 Quad (two processor) build. What a welcher; I always hate building up a high end box just for some shill. ;( Completely ruins my day :( But, it is pretty :) Maybe I'll run some benchmarks.
RE: [H] February AutoPatcher Updates
No, if you "install" the Autopatcher Nov., it really just unzips to a folder in c:\program files\autopatcher. The updater just appends to that folder. You can then take that folder and burn it off to a CD or whatever, and you have a full. Yes, I like RyanVM, BTS, etc. but those are before the fact utility slipstreamers. It's not every month that you're formatting with a slipstreamed disc ;) The ability to have all patches and everything with you on CD for when you travel to the numerous people who don't have any internet access. -Original message- From: "Hayes Elkins" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 14:07:54 -0600 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: RE: [H] February AutoPatcher Updates > You are saying that you should install the last "full" version, dated > November 2006, over the top? > > > >From: "Neil Davidson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: The Hardware List > >To: "'The Hardware List'" > >Subject: RE: [H] February AutoPatcher Updates > >Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 19:45:42 - > > > >If you don't want to download all the updates between your last download > >and > >the current one, then just get the full version and install over the top. > > > >Easy. > > > >-Original Message- > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hayes Elkins > >Sent: 19 February 2007 18:52 > >To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com > >Subject: Re: [H] February AutoPatcher Updates > > > >Patently stupid. > > > >Something like this in the age of practically free bandwidth should be > >cumilative, ala ryanvm.net > > > > > > >From: Al Anger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Reply-To: The Hardware List > > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED],The Hardware List > > > > > >Subject: Re: [H] February AutoPatcher Updates Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 > > >13:26:50 -0700 > > > > > > > > ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > The latest Full version I have is November, 2006. I have that > >installed > > >and > > > > have ran it. Do I have to run the December update, then the January > > >update > > > > and then the current February update? > > > > > >Yes. > > > > > > > Or can I just run the February update > > > > and it covers everything since November? > > > > > >Nope > > > > > >HTH, > > >al > > > >_ > >Find a local pizza place, movie theater, and more..then map the best route! > >http://maps.live.com/?icid=hmtag1&FORM=MGAC01 > > > > _ > With tax season right around the corner, make sure to follow these few > simple tips. > http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Taxes/PreparationTips/PreparationTips.aspx?icid=HMFebtagline > >
RE: [H] PC Picture Links
High demand on that case, actually.. we mostly build to order, so whatever the customer wants, it's what they get. The Thermaltake Armor & Kandalf are the most popular cases we stock at the moment. *shrug* lots of expandability. I tend to like thier styling, for what it's worth ;) CW -Original message- From: "Tim \"The Beave\" Lider" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 10:12:45 -0600 To: "'The Hardware List'" hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: RE: [H] PC Picture Links > Nice computer. Kind of curious on why the Thermaltake case? Putting that > much gear in a case and do not get a case that will hide most of your > wiring. If you guys like I will take pictures of my current Gaming Computer. > > > Tim "The Beave" Lider > E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of CW > Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 6:28 AM > To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com > Subject: Re: [H] PC Picture Links > > The armor fully weighted (2 drives, 2 opticals, board, 2 GTX, etc.) is > 66lbs. So, heavy so & so. > > It's not really that much of a dust magnet. We sent one to NY a while back > that was a dead silent 8800GTX build; water cooled CPU; water cooled > SLI-8800GTX. > > Bad thing about it: had to be Vista 64, and right now, Nvidia's driver > support for Vista, and especially Vista 64 SUCKS. Absolutely SUCKS. > > It's just one of those things.. in XP, he gets full SLI. In Vista 64, Vista > only sees 1 card, and he gets way slower performance. The 680i chipset, for > all of it's pros, has some issues still. Asus came out with the P5N32-E > Plus, which is a hybrid chipset, the 650 northbridge and the AMD 590 > southbridge.. so you get full x32 SLI, but it's so much more stable under > Vista 64 that it's sickening. Nothing wrong under Vista 32 or XP with the > 680i, but under Vista 64, the P5N32-E just slices and dices everything out > there. > > I'm going to try to take a lot of pictures today and post links, get this > list back on hardware. I checked the benches for what's being built and at > least I can get some good pics of an AMD Quad system, and a few other > oddballs I can get some pictures of to post and get some hardware discussion > going :) > > FYI- > > I am piling up in the backchannel and have now heard from 12 people who say > they can't post and keep getting bumped. Jim, my email to you bounces.. > things OK? > > CW > > -Original message- > From: "Raul Limos" [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 07:53:42 -0600 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [H] PC Picture Links > > > On 2/19/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Yeah its an armor. We've been doing most lately in them. It is roomy and > easy to work with. I like the psu mount a lot > > > > > > We just sent out one in a silverstone tj09. Great case. But even for all > the pros going for it I still think the armor is the most functional > > > > Roomy case, but will dust collection be a problem? It says at the > > website there are filters for the grills. > > > > How about the weight with everything installed? > > > > >
RE: [H] February AutoPatcher Updates
I didn't realize there was only a Full version for November, and not one for each successive month. That's how they used to do it. I guess next month there will be another full version as they are updating their core as well as the patches etc. So unless some builds a full install, you will have to get Nov, Dec, Jan and Feb. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hayes Elkins Sent: 19 February 2007 20:00 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: RE: [H] February AutoPatcher Updates You are saying that you should install the last "full" version, dated November 2006, over the top? >From: "Neil Davidson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: The Hardware List >To: "'The Hardware List'" >Subject: RE: [H] February AutoPatcher Updates >Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 19:45:42 - > >If you don't want to download all the updates between your last download >and >the current one, then just get the full version and install over the top. > >Easy. >
RE: [H] February AutoPatcher Updates
You are saying that you should install the last "full" version, dated November 2006, over the top? From: "Neil Davidson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: The Hardware List To: "'The Hardware List'" Subject: RE: [H] February AutoPatcher Updates Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 19:45:42 - If you don't want to download all the updates between your last download and the current one, then just get the full version and install over the top. Easy. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hayes Elkins Sent: 19 February 2007 18:52 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] February AutoPatcher Updates Patently stupid. Something like this in the age of practically free bandwidth should be cumilative, ala ryanvm.net >From: Al Anger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: The Hardware List >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED],The Hardware List > >Subject: Re: [H] February AutoPatcher Updates Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 >13:26:50 -0700 > > ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The latest Full version I have is November, 2006. I have that installed >and > > have ran it. Do I have to run the December update, then the January >update > > and then the current February update? > >Yes. > > > Or can I just run the February update > > and it covers everything since November? > >Nope > >HTH, >al _ Find a local pizza place, movie theater, and more..then map the best route! http://maps.live.com/?icid=hmtag1&FORM=MGAC01 _ With tax season right around the corner, make sure to follow these few simple tips. http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Taxes/PreparationTips/PreparationTips.aspx?icid=HMFebtagline
Re: [H] February AutoPatcher Updates
"Hayes Elkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Patently stupid. > > Something like this in the age of practically free bandwidth should be > cumilative, ala ryanvm.net Rodney King; the next day with both eyes black and blue and a green and yellow cheek swelled up the size of a grapefruit: "Can't we all just get along?" There's room for both methods. Some ppl are on dialup and getting the 29.2Kb update for AutoPatcher is easer than the 44.3MB download from ryanvm.net Advantages and disadvantages to both methods. One size does not fit all. :) al (who is enjoying his new 12.64 Mb/s down, 375.4Kb/s up connection)
RE: [H] February AutoPatcher Updates
If you don't want to download all the updates between your last download and the current one, then just get the full version and install over the top. Easy. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hayes Elkins Sent: 19 February 2007 18:52 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] February AutoPatcher Updates Patently stupid. Something like this in the age of practically free bandwidth should be cumilative, ala ryanvm.net >From: Al Anger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: The Hardware List >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED],The Hardware List > >Subject: Re: [H] February AutoPatcher Updates Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 >13:26:50 -0700 > > ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The latest Full version I have is November, 2006. I have that installed >and > > have ran it. Do I have to run the December update, then the January >update > > and then the current February update? > >Yes. > > > Or can I just run the February update > > and it covers everything since November? > >Nope > >HTH, >al _ Find a local pizza place, movie theater, and more..then map the best route! http://maps.live.com/?icid=hmtag1&FORM=MGAC01
Re: [H] February AutoPatcher Updates
Patently stupid. Something like this in the age of practically free bandwidth should be cumilative, ala ryanvm.net From: Al Anger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: The Hardware List To: [EMAIL PROTECTED],The Hardware List Subject: Re: [H] February AutoPatcher Updates Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 13:26:50 -0700 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The latest Full version I have is November, 2006. I have that installed and > have ran it. Do I have to run the December update, then the January update > and then the current February update? Yes. > Or can I just run the February update > and it covers everything since November? Nope HTH, al _ Find a local pizza place, movie theater, and more .then map the best route! http://maps.live.com/?icid=hmtag1&FORM=MGAC01
Re: [H] February AutoPatcher Updates
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The latest Full version I have is November, 2006. I have that installed and > have ran it. Do I have to run the December update, then the January update > and then the current February update? Yes. > Or can I just run the February update > and it covers everything since November? Nope HTH, al
Re: [H] February AutoPatcher Updates
Seems kinda odd to have to manually update an "auto patcher". ::: ::: http://www.autopatcher.com/downloads/ ::: :: :: The latest Full version I have is November, 2006. I have that :: installed and have ran it. Do I have to run the December update, :: then the January update and then the current February update? Or can :: I just run the February update and it covers everything since :: November? :: :: Chuck
Re: [H] February AutoPatcher Updates
- Original Message - From: "Al" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 2:02 PM Subject: [H] February AutoPatcher Updates http://www.autopatcher.com/downloads/ The latest Full version I have is November, 2006. I have that installed and have ran it. Do I have to run the December update, then the January update and then the current February update? Or can I just run the February update and it covers everything since November? Chuck
Re: [H] February AutoPatcher Updates
- Original Message - From: "Al" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 2:02 PM Subject: [H] February AutoPatcher Updates http://www.autopatcher.com/downloads/
Re: [H] February AutoPatcher Updates
One of the best tools out there :) Sent via BlackBerry from Cingular Wireless -Original Message- From: "Neil Davidson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 17:06:14 To:"'The Hardware List'" Subject: RE: [H] February AutoPatcher Updates Thanks Al :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Al Sent: 19 February 2007 19:02 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] February AutoPatcher Updates http://www.autopatcher.com/downloads/ al
RE: [H] February AutoPatcher Updates
Thanks Al :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Al Sent: 19 February 2007 19:02 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] February AutoPatcher Updates http://www.autopatcher.com/downloads/ al
[H] February AutoPatcher Updates
http://www.autopatcher.com/downloads/ al
Re: [H] bottom of the line
Why not go used? A 1 or 2 year old $1000 pc should easily fit the bill below and can probably be bought around $300. Heck if you're set on Dell, they've got their refurb store on ebay. On 2/16/07, Winterlight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: If you had to buy a bottom of the line PC, your basic word processing, email, web browsing box, in the 300 dollar range who would you pick as the manufacturer. Dell, Levono, Gateway, HP... all these have a 300 dollar box, usually a Semperon, 512 GB of RAM, CDROM, floppy 60 to 80GB drive modem. no monitor. -- -jmg -sapere aude
Re: [H] PC Picture Links
"Tim \"The Beave\" Lider" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Give me a few days. I need to clean it out anyway. What case are you using? al
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Please. Also include component detail if not too much trouble. -Original Message- From: "Tim \"The Beave\" Lider" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 08:11:18 To:"'The Hardware List'" Subject: RE: [H] PC Picture Links Nice computer. Kind of curious on why the Thermaltake case? Putting that much gear in a case and do not get a case that will hide most of your wiring. If you guys like I will take pictures of my current Gaming Computer. Tim "The Beave" Lider E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of CW Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 6:28 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] PC Picture Links The armor fully weighted (2 drives, 2 opticals, board, 2 GTX, etc.) is 66lbs. So, heavy so & so. It's not really that much of a dust magnet. We sent one to NY a while back that was a dead silent 8800GTX build; water cooled CPU; water cooled SLI-8800GTX. Bad thing about it: had to be Vista 64, and right now, Nvidia's driver support for Vista, and especially Vista 64 SUCKS. Absolutely SUCKS. It's just one of those things.. in XP, he gets full SLI. In Vista 64, Vista only sees 1 card, and he gets way slower performance. The 680i chipset, for all of it's pros, has some issues still. Asus came out with the P5N32-E Plus, which is a hybrid chipset, the 650 northbridge and the AMD 590 southbridge.. so you get full x32 SLI, but it's so much more stable under Vista 64 that it's sickening. Nothing wrong under Vista 32 or XP with the 680i, but under Vista 64, the P5N32-E just slices and dices everything out there. I'm going to try to take a lot of pictures today and post links, get this list back on hardware. I checked the benches for what's being built and at least I can get some good pics of an AMD Quad system, and a few other oddballs I can get some pictures of to post and get some hardware discussion going :) FYI- I am piling up in the backchannel and have now heard from 12 people who say they can't post and keep getting bumped. Jim, my email to you bounces.. things OK? CW -Original message- From: "Raul Limos" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 07:53:42 -0600 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [H] PC Picture Links > On 2/19/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Yeah its an armor. We've been doing most lately in them. It is roomy and easy to work with. I like the psu mount a lot > > > > We just sent out one in a silverstone tj09. Great case. But even for all the pros going for it I still think the armor is the most functional > > Roomy case, but will dust collection be a problem? It says at the > website there are filters for the grills. > > How about the weight with everything installed? >
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Give me a few days. I need to clean it out anyway. Tim "The Beave" Lider E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Al Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 10:16 AM To: The Hardware List Subject: Re: [H] PC Picture Links "Tim \"The Beave\" Lider" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If you guys like I will take pictures of my current Gaming Computer. Yes please. al
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"Tim \"The Beave\" Lider" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If you guys like I will take pictures of my current Gaming Computer. Yes please. al
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Nice computer. Kind of curious on why the Thermaltake case? Putting that much gear in a case and do not get a case that will hide most of your wiring. If you guys like I will take pictures of my current Gaming Computer. Tim "The Beave" Lider E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of CW Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 6:28 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] PC Picture Links The armor fully weighted (2 drives, 2 opticals, board, 2 GTX, etc.) is 66lbs. So, heavy so & so. It's not really that much of a dust magnet. We sent one to NY a while back that was a dead silent 8800GTX build; water cooled CPU; water cooled SLI-8800GTX. Bad thing about it: had to be Vista 64, and right now, Nvidia's driver support for Vista, and especially Vista 64 SUCKS. Absolutely SUCKS. It's just one of those things.. in XP, he gets full SLI. In Vista 64, Vista only sees 1 card, and he gets way slower performance. The 680i chipset, for all of it's pros, has some issues still. Asus came out with the P5N32-E Plus, which is a hybrid chipset, the 650 northbridge and the AMD 590 southbridge.. so you get full x32 SLI, but it's so much more stable under Vista 64 that it's sickening. Nothing wrong under Vista 32 or XP with the 680i, but under Vista 64, the P5N32-E just slices and dices everything out there. I'm going to try to take a lot of pictures today and post links, get this list back on hardware. I checked the benches for what's being built and at least I can get some good pics of an AMD Quad system, and a few other oddballs I can get some pictures of to post and get some hardware discussion going :) FYI- I am piling up in the backchannel and have now heard from 12 people who say they can't post and keep getting bumped. Jim, my email to you bounces.. things OK? CW -Original message- From: "Raul Limos" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 07:53:42 -0600 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [H] PC Picture Links > On 2/19/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Yeah its an armor. We've been doing most lately in them. It is roomy and easy to work with. I like the psu mount a lot > > > > We just sent out one in a silverstone tj09. Great case. But even for all the pros going for it I still think the armor is the most functional > > Roomy case, but will dust collection be a problem? It says at the > website there are filters for the grills. > > How about the weight with everything installed? >
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The armor fully weighted (2 drives, 2 opticals, board, 2 GTX, etc.) is 66lbs. So, heavy so & so. It's not really that much of a dust magnet. We sent one to NY a while back that was a dead silent 8800GTX build; water cooled CPU; water cooled SLI-8800GTX. Bad thing about it: had to be Vista 64, and right now, Nvidia's driver support for Vista, and especially Vista 64 SUCKS. Absolutely SUCKS. It's just one of those things.. in XP, he gets full SLI. In Vista 64, Vista only sees 1 card, and he gets way slower performance. The 680i chipset, for all of it's pros, has some issues still. Asus came out with the P5N32-E Plus, which is a hybrid chipset, the 650 northbridge and the AMD 590 southbridge.. so you get full x32 SLI, but it's so much more stable under Vista 64 that it's sickening. Nothing wrong under Vista 32 or XP with the 680i, but under Vista 64, the P5N32-E just slices and dices everything out there. I'm going to try to take a lot of pictures today and post links, get this list back on hardware. I checked the benches for what's being built and at least I can get some good pics of an AMD Quad system, and a few other oddballs I can get some pictures of to post and get some hardware discussion going :) FYI- I am piling up in the backchannel and have now heard from 12 people who say they can't post and keep getting bumped. Jim, my email to you bounces.. things OK? CW -Original message- From: "Raul Limos" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 07:53:42 -0600 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [H] PC Picture Links > On 2/19/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Yeah its an armor. We've been doing most lately in them. It is roomy and > > easy to work with. I like the psu mount a lot > > > > We just sent out one in a silverstone tj09. Great case. But even for all > > the pros going for it I still think the armor is the most functional > > Roomy case, but will dust collection be a problem? It says at the > website there are filters for the grills. > > How about the weight with everything installed? >
Re: [H] CW <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Opps. That wasn't supposed to go to the list. Looks like I changed the subject instead of the addressee. See what happens when one hurries? my bad, al Joe User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello Al, > > Sunday, February 18, 2007, 10:43:15 PM, you wrote: > > > So, while looking over the website, and coming across the rates page: > > http://www.kctechheads.com/rates.html > > I noticed a couple of minor anomalies. The Business Clients paragraph > > sounds a little odd. May I suggest it say $$$ per hour or $$$ hourly, > > but not both: $$$ per hourly. > > > And the sentence: > > After hours normal hours (9AM-7PM) billing rate ... > > is a little odd sounding too. > > > I have learned so much from the list, and especially you over the years; > > I wanted to try to give back. > > Since May of 2002, the client base for KCTechHeads has risen exponentially - > as more people discover the benefits of IT staff "on-call" without the hastle. > > hastle should be hassle. http://www.kctechheads.com/cohistory.html > > > > > -- > Regards, > joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key...
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On 2/19/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Yeah its an armor. We've been doing most lately in them. It is roomy and easy to work with. I like the psu mount a lot We just sent out one in a silverstone tj09. Great case. But even for all the pros going for it I still think the armor is the most functional Roomy case, but will dust collection be a problem? It says at the website there are filters for the grills. How about the weight with everything installed?
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CW, Who makes the cpu hs/cooler? Nice heatpipe design, but I'd be happier if it also had some bracket from the top of the stack to the case cross-piece above the monster. Looks like a big torquey weight to expect the cpu socket to support. Yes, it does look like it is very quiet. Best, Duncan At 19:23 02/18/2007 -0500, you wrote: snip Yeah, I really like those kind of builds; I've got about four of them going at the moment. Everyone keeps talking to me about Watercooling, and we've done some of that, but man.. talk about a hastle. The tuniq may be the best thing I've seen for cooling.. it does a better job then most of the water cooling systems we've tried (Thermaltake Tribe / Zalman 1 / 2 / Gigabyte) and outside of a custom danger den kit, it's the best solution I've seen. And it's a hell of a lot less hassle and risk. And so quiet. snip CW -Original message- From: "Jeff Lane" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 18:08:27 -0600 To: "The Hardware List" hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] PC Picture Links > How did everyone get knocked off, Chris? I think I am getting everything > that has been sent, although not very much. > > BTW that new PC is really impressive.wow... what a CPU cooler! > > Jeff > > > > > Whew! Ok, I'll contact everyone who emailed me, if they've been bumped > > from the list (JRS, Veech, etc.) then we'll need to re-ad them. > > > > Sending through another, just some pictures of a system build... > > > > http://www.kctechheads.com/pcbuild/928.jpg > > http://www.kctechheads.com/pcbuild/929.jpg > > http://www.kctechheads.com/pcbuild/934.jpg > > > > Not totally done, but one I thought was nice.. two already OC'd > > 8800GTX/SLI QX6700/Tuniq/1kW PSU.. pretty. Still need to put three more > > burners in it and a media reader, but it's coming along nice ;) > > > > (figured I'd throw out more then just a test test) > > > > __ NOD32 2068 (20070218) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com This email scanned for Viruses and Spam by ZCloud.net
Re: [H] CW <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
That's what you get for hiring out your web work :) Actually, I've got someone new who's supposed to be re-working the whole thing now. CW
