Re: [H] GFX cards under $200

2007-07-16 Thread zaske
Radeon X1950XT 256 gets my vote for the best bang for the buck award. 
Just under $170 and it will kick serious ass in any game @ 1600x1200 or 
less (XP drivers are very mature, don't diddle me with DX10 and fuck 
Vista until SP1). AnandTech, HardOCP, PCStats etc. are some of the best 
review sites. Oh yeah, unless you're rich, save your $ for your 
retirement fund or get an 8800GTX and enter the elite zone.



j maccraw wrote:

ATI X1950 Pro & XT's from Sapphire, VisionTek,
PowerColor, etc... get my vote on 
either bus. I am sure the similar spec Nvidia's are

the same ~$200.

Tom's has a nice comparison database for GPU's:

http://www23.tomshardware.com/graphics.html



Bobby Heid wrote:
  

AGP?  PCI-X (I think)?  Etc.

 


Bobby

 


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Subject: [H] GFX cards under $200

 


Hi,

 


I need to get a couple of GFX cards so don't want to


spend more than $200
  

each what's the best gaming card in this price? I


would prefer Nvidia but
  
I'm open to all suggestions. 

 


What's the best WWW site for reviews now a days? I


have been out of the loop
  

far too long.

 


Many thanks,

Gary Hunter 
Consulting Engineer - Core Services 
Travelport - Galileo International 
(+1) 303 - 397 - 5035 (Office) 
(+1) 720 - 231 - 0965 (Cell) 







 

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Re: [H] GFX cards under $200

2007-07-16 Thread j maccraw
ATI X1950 Pro & XT's from Sapphire, VisionTek,
PowerColor, etc... get my vote on 
either bus. I am sure the similar spec Nvidia's are
the same ~$200.

Tom's has a nice comparison database for GPU's:

http://www23.tomshardware.com/graphics.html



Bobby Heid wrote:
> AGP?  PCI-X (I think)?  Etc.
> 
>  
> 
> Bobby
> 
>  
> 
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Hunter, Gary
> Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 3:20 PM
> To: The Hardware List
> Subject: [H] GFX cards under $200
> 
>  
> 
> Hi,
> 
>  
> 
> I need to get a couple of GFX cards so don't want to
spend more than $200
> each what's the best gaming card in this price? I
would prefer Nvidia but
> I'm open to all suggestions. 
> 
>  
> 
> What's the best WWW site for reviews now a days? I
have been out of the loop
> far too long.
> 
>  
> 
> Many thanks,
> 
> Gary Hunter 
> Consulting Engineer - Core Services 
> Travelport - Galileo International 
> (+1) 303 - 397 - 5035 (Office) 
> (+1) 720 - 231 - 0965 (Cell) 
> 
> 


 

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Re: [H] Looking for advice on new system.

2007-07-16 Thread zaske
SLI is pointless to consider unless you have money to burn (better to 
get a Roth IRA IMHO). A 550 watt PSU with greater than 80% efficiency 
would do just fine for what you want. Apparently my fellow listers 
haven't been reading too much about P35 and DDR2/DDR3 support. P35 is an 
excellent chipset but only slightly superior in performance to 965 with 
current DDR3 sticks. Second, the pin count between DDR2 and DDR3 while 
being exactly the same have a different notch. Therefore, you either buy 
a mobo that takes DDR2 memory knowing that you can never upgrade it in 
the future to DDR3 or you buy a DDR3 mobo knowing that you can't use 
DDR2 and will pay a serious price penalty for it. Finally, it seems that 
Kingston and not Crucial makes the fastest DDR3 memory @ the present 
time. Dude, P35 will not give you any future proofing unless you bite 
the bullet and get a mobo with DDR3 memory slots. So, how much money you 
can afford to spend is the most relevant question @ this point. Oh yeah, 
most reviews have Gigabyte mobo's rated best for Intel CPU's.



Joe User wrote:

Hello Hayes,

Monday, July 16, 2007, 3:20:58 PM, you wrote:

  

P35 is the only way to go. It has ICH9 which is the fastest southbridge to
date. In addition to DDR3 support, it's memory controller has been tweaked
to surpass the performance of older chipsets even when using DDR2.



  

SLI is still immeasurably stupid. 8800 GTX's and Ultras are cheaper now and
the prices keep falling.



Yeah I'd rather run one video card. Esp, where one card can ruin two
in SLI.



So looks like so far we have:

P35 Express chipset board
E6850 (3.0GHz) dual-core
DDR3 Memory
8800 GTX or Ultra nVidia card

Anyone make a call on what brand I would pursue for P35 chipset?

I would probably take crucial memory since I am setup as a reseller.

Who makes decent nVidia cards nowadays? I am using a MSI @ the
moment.

Antec PSU? Wattage?

  


[H] Make a Audio Image file

2007-07-16 Thread Winterlight
I want to back up my retail audio CDs. I don't want to rip them into 
wav tracks. I want to image the CD to a iso file. A perfect copy. I 
have tried to do this Winimage 10, Nero 6, and it doesn't seem to be 
available. Is this even possible? Is there a special program that 
will do this?


It seems like if you can use DVD decryptor to image a DVD you ought 
to be able to do the same with a audio CD... or not???




[H] Mac help please

2007-07-16 Thread Winterlight

I need to copy word files from a
Power PC
Macintosh Performa
 6400//200

Running System 7.5.3

to floppies. I don't know anything about Macs. I assume there is some 
kind of file manager and I would just copy like I do in Windows 
right... probably icon, probably drag and drop? Is there a my 
document folder, or something like it.


How about compression. Will there be built in compression that will 
allow me to zip of the contents of that folder... they do have 
directories right? zip it up and split it up into floppy size? If 
so how would I do this... with the mouse?




[H] Phone question

2007-07-16 Thread Winterlight
Do newer camera phones use a USB plug. Do they all just plug into a 
USB port like any other camera?




RE: [H] GFX cards under $200

2007-07-16 Thread Bobby Heid
AGP?  PCI-X (I think)?  Etc.

 

Bobby

 

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hunter, Gary
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 3:20 PM
To: The Hardware List
Subject: [H] GFX cards under $200

 

Hi,

 

I need to get a couple of GFX cards so don't want to spend more than $200
each what's the best gaming card in this price? I would prefer Nvidia but
I'm open to all suggestions. 

 

What's the best WWW site for reviews now a days? I have been out of the loop
far too long.

 

Many thanks,

Gary Hunter 
Consulting Engineer - Core Services 
Travelport - Galileo International 
(+1) 303 - 397 - 5035 (Office) 
(+1) 720 - 231 - 0965 (Cell) 



RE: Re[2]: [H] Looking for advice on new system.

2007-07-16 Thread Greg Sevart
> Yeah I'd rather run one video card. Esp, where one card can ruin two
> in SLI.
> 
> 
> 
> So looks like so far we have:
> 
> P35 Express chipset board
> E6850 (3.0GHz) dual-core
> DDR3 Memory
> 8800 GTX or Ultra nVidia card
> 
> Anyone make a call on what brand I would pursue for P35 chipset?

I'm fond of Gigabyte's P35 offerings. Just find one of them that matches the
feature set you're looking for.

> 
> I would probably take crucial memory since I am setup as a reseller.

Cool--but--You really don't need to blow the money on DDR3 at this point.
P35 does a nice job with DDR2, and it'll save you a load of money. Frankly,
I wouldn't touch DDR3 until DDR3-1600 or faster memory is reasonably priced.
DDR2-1066 memory can be had pretty cheap anymore.

> 
> Who makes decent nVidia cards nowadays? I am using a MSI @ the
> moment.
> 

Frankly, doesn't much matter. They almost all follow reference PCB
designs...the only real difference is packaging and cooling solution. Pick
someone you've had good luck with in the past.

> Antec PSU? Wattage?
> 

I'd look very closely at SeaSonic's M12 700w. A bit overkill, but it's a
very solid supply that's >80% efficient, and leaves a lot of room to grow.


Greg




Re[2]: [H] Looking for advice on new system.

2007-07-16 Thread Joe User
Hello Hayes,

Monday, July 16, 2007, 3:20:58 PM, you wrote:

> P35 is the only way to go. It has ICH9 which is the fastest southbridge to
> date. In addition to DDR3 support, it's memory controller has been tweaked
> to surpass the performance of older chipsets even when using DDR2.

> SLI is still immeasurably stupid. 8800 GTX's and Ultras are cheaper now and
> the prices keep falling.

Yeah I'd rather run one video card. Esp, where one card can ruin two
in SLI.



So looks like so far we have:

P35 Express chipset board
E6850 (3.0GHz) dual-core
DDR3 Memory
8800 GTX or Ultra nVidia card

Anyone make a call on what brand I would pursue for P35 chipset?

I would probably take crucial memory since I am setup as a reseller.

Who makes decent nVidia cards nowadays? I am using a MSI @ the
moment.

Antec PSU? Wattage?

-- 
Regards,
 joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key...



Re: [H] Looking for advice on new system.

2007-07-16 Thread Hayes Elkins
P35 is the only way to go. It has ICH9 which is the fastest southbridge to 
date. In addition to DDR3 support, it's memory controller has been tweaked 
to surpass the performance of older chipsets even when using DDR2.


SLI is still immeasurably stupid. 8800 GTX's and Ultras are cheaper now and 
the prices keep falling.




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Subject: Re: [H] Looking for advice on new system.
Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 14:48:10 -0400

Which CPU would you choose for a gaming PC, the Q6600 or the E6850?
For the chipset, would you go with the P35 Express or nForce 600i?
Why?

On 7/16/07, Greg Sevart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

With the Intel quad-core Q6600 (2.4GHz) hitting $266 next week (7/22), and
the new E6850 (3.0GHz) dual-core running at $266 now, along with the 
rather

nice P35 Express chipset, why would anyone even consider an AMD-based
machine for anything but an ultra-budget box?

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[H] GFX cards under $200

2007-07-16 Thread Hunter, Gary
Hi,
 
I need to get a couple of GFX cards so don't want to spend more than
$200 each what's the best gaming card in this price? I would prefer
Nvidia but I'm open to all suggestions. 
 
What's the best WWW site for reviews now a days? I have been out of the
loop far too long.
 
Many thanks,

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Travelport - Galileo International 
(+1) 303 - 397 - 5035 (Office) 
(+1) 720 - 231 - 0965 (Cell) 

 

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RE: [H] Looking for advice on new system.

2007-07-16 Thread Greg Sevart
For gaming, I'd go E6850. More speed per core is almost universally better than 
more cores for current games. I anticipate that will change, but it'll remain 
that way for a while.

Hands down, P35 Express, unless you just absolutely need SLI. The 680i has a 
fantastic feature set, but I've just generally had bad luck with itnetwork 
adapters that are either slow or disappear and require a reboot, general 
instability after running for a few months, high temperatures (not just NB, the 
SB runs blazing hot too), immature drivers/BIOS (these have largely been worked 
out on the BIOS side, but c'mon), poor quad-core overclockability, very finicky 
memory controller, etc.

Greg

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardware-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Decker
> Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 1:48 PM
> To: The Hardware List
> Subject: Re: [H] Looking for advice on new system.
> 
> Which CPU would you choose for a gaming PC, the Q6600 or the E6850?
> For the chipset, would you go with the P35 Express or nForce 600i?
> Why?
> 
> On 7/16/07, Greg Sevart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > With the Intel quad-core Q6600 (2.4GHz) hitting $266 next week
> (7/22), and
> > the new E6850 (3.0GHz) dual-core running at $266 now, along with the
> rather
> > nice P35 Express chipset, why would anyone even consider an AMD-based
> > machine for anything but an ultra-budget box?
> [snip]





Re: [H] Looking for advice on new system.

2007-07-16 Thread Michael Decker

Which CPU would you choose for a gaming PC, the Q6600 or the E6850?
For the chipset, would you go with the P35 Express or nForce 600i?
Why?

On 7/16/07, Greg Sevart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

With the Intel quad-core Q6600 (2.4GHz) hitting $266 next week (7/22), and
the new E6850 (3.0GHz) dual-core running at $266 now, along with the rather
nice P35 Express chipset, why would anyone even consider an AMD-based
machine for anything but an ultra-budget box?

[snip]


Re[2]: [H] Looking for advice on new system.

2007-07-16 Thread Joe User
Hello Greg,

Sunday, July 15, 2007, 11:49:25 PM, you wrote:

> With the Intel quad-core Q6600 (2.4GHz) hitting $266 next week (7/22), and
> the new E6850 (3.0GHz) dual-core running at $266 now, along with the rather
> nice P35 Express chipset, why would anyone even consider an AMD-based
> machine for anything but an ultra-budget box?

> But to answer your question...now is a pretty decent time to buy. If you're
> dead set on AMD, they just slashed prices---the X2 6000+ can be found for
> only $170. The next gen core, Phenom, is rumored to be delayed for until Q1
> 2008. (Barcelona-based Opterons will ship this year, but current rumor is
> the Phenom desktop chips won't.) Intel has just released the 1333MHz bus
> chips, and a huge price cut on existing chips is set for the 22nd...they
> will push out 45nm chips later this year, but I don't think they're reason
> enough to wait.



Thanks Greg and Hayes (who back channeled)... No I am open to Intel. I prefer 
AMD but I
want the best bang for the buck... if Intel is in the lead - dandy!


-- 
Regards,
 joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key...