Re: [H] probably a really dumb question

2008-03-01 Thread j maccraw
You vouce for them as reputable brands Harry? I know
there are units out there 
just can't find the brands I know are good still
selling ATX 1.3 units.

Harry McGregor wrote:
 Well, on paper this one specs out.
 
 I have a couple on order for a few spare boxes, but
I don't have them on 
 hand:
 

http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=480W-PWR-BLKcat=PWRcpc=PWRbsc
 
* *Power Specifications:*
* +3.3V, 32.0A
* +5V, 36.0A
* +12V, 16.0A
* -12V, 0.6A
* -5V, 0.6A
* +5Vsb, 2.0 A
 
 This one also looks ok: 

http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=PSAP550cat=PWR
 
* *Voltage Specifications: *
* 115/230 V voltage
* 60/50 HZ frequency
* +3.3, 28 A
* +5, 40 A
* +12, 20 A
* -12, 0.8 A
* -5, 0.5 A
* +5V, 2 A
 
 And this one:
http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=ARROW-680Wcat=PWR
 
* *Power Specifications:*
* 115V, 230V switchable power supply
* 50/60 Hz, 7.0A/3.5A
* +3.3V, 45A
* +5V, 50A
* +12V, 22A
* -12V, 0.80A
* -5V, 0.5A
* +5Vsb, 3A
 
  Harry
 
 
 
 j maccraw wrote:
 Hard question is what model is still available for
 sale with ATX 1.3 spec that has a 5V line amperage
above 35A? Damn 
 Asus chose not
 use the 12V line!

 All the 2.x ones emphasize the 12V line and leave
you
 with 20-25A 5V rails. Was going to use my
ThermalTake 750W that's 
 sitting here
 waiting for Asus Rampage to be released but it's
not enough 5V amps.

 Even refurb sesonic Tornado is too low spec AFAIK
 asuming I could find one.
   
 
 
 


  

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Re: [H] Admittedly, I bought 200..

2008-03-01 Thread Ben Ruset

Yeah, it now says deactivated item

Veech wrote:
you got lucky!  I think they realized the mistake when they processed 
your order.



- Original Message - From: Chris Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 3:04 PM
Subject: Re: [H] Admittedly, I bought 200..


Nope, instant.  I ordered in lots of forty.  I'd attach a PDF, but for 
a lot
of forty, my total cost: $422.  I paid $10.55 per board after 
shipping, and

they are now all marked as shipped with tracking #s.

:)


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Weeden
Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 5:06 PM
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] Admittedly, I bought 200..

Wasnt that a rebate deal?

---
Brian Weeden
Technical Consultant
Secure World Foundation

Sent from my iPhone

On 29-Feb-08, at 5:44 PM, Chris Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


They've now changed the price on the ad.  Instead of $8 a board,
it's $59 a
board ($109-50) who gives a crap, all of mine are marked as shipped
already,
I paid RUSH just in case ;)  And charged the right amount ;)

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Reeves
Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 4:39 PM
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] Admittedly, I bought 200..

I've got a project I can use 25 on.  So, 25*89 or so that I'll bid
them at,
fine, that covers all the cost of 200, and then I've got 160 I can
throw out
and just have them go to prebuilts or whatever.  I've used the thing
several
times and it's fine with a QX6800, etc.  So it's not a bad board,
just no
1333Mhz support.. but eh, for what it is.. I figured, why grab 25 I
know I
can use when I can grab a couple hundred and still come out ahead ;)


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Weeden
Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 4:03 PM
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] Admittedly, I bought 200..

Actually, if that were 5 or 10 motherboards you could answer that
question.

I think the better question is, what are you going to do with 200
motherboards?

-
Brian Weeden
Technical Consultant
Secure World Foundation


On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 4:58 PM, Harry McGregor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:


Chris Reeves wrote:

Maybe I wiped them out.  But, it SEEMED like a good deal ;)



So what are you going to do with $1500 worth of motherboards?

  Harry


Now just to see if it ships.



http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?Item=N82E16813186116














Re: [H] probably a really dumb question

2008-03-01 Thread DHSinclair

j,
Can not help much. My A7N8X-deluxe is powered by a PCPC TC300-slim. It is 
no longer made.
I also have 2 PCPC T51ATX-DX powering my 2 A7N8X-E-deluxe m/bs. They are 
510W w/40A on the +5v line.  Can not find them either on the PCPC 
site.. :(
I know the PCPC is expensive, but I have has perfect service from them.  I 
have not yet replaced one of the PCPC psus. Several are now 8-10yrs old.

You may wish to look at the Seasonic brand also.
Best,
Duncan

At 22:37 02/29/2008 -0800, you wrote:

ALong these lines:

What brand ATX PSU is good  available for a A7N8X
mobo that needs 35A+ on the
5V line?

Seems my dead CPU was not dead but rather my Antec
TP480 Blue drooping to 4.5V
on the 5V line, POS that it is  my second unit from
RMA that is now out of
warranty w/ only 1 year of real time on it.

Fuck Antec!


Harvey Best wrote:
 Have an Asus K8V-SE motherboard with a bad AMD chip.
Also have a system with a socket a 1 gig Athlon chip.
Model 1131

 Will the Socket A work in the Socket 754 Asus board?
I am fairly sure it won't and am researching now, but
the answer here will probably be quicker than my
research! :)

 Thanks, Harvey


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Re: [H] probably a really dumb question

2008-03-01 Thread Greg Sevart
I would look for a Sparkle/FSP FSP400-60PFN or FSP400-60GN(12V) or something
like that. They offer 40.0A on the +5v rail. I got one off fleabay for $30 a
while back for a dual K7 board. Sparkle/SPI/FSP units have always been among
the best. 

As far as Antec, yes, they were awful. Antec PSUs were, for years, OEM'd by
CWT. They've since shifted most of their production to SeaSonic for lines
such as the TruePower Trio and EarthWatts...I wouldn't mind those, but I've
seen many a TPI and TPII with very low +5v rails. Even had a TPI explode. :)

I personally wouldn't ever buy anything that wasn't SeaSonic or SPI/FSP
OEM'd. Funny thing is that most of the PCPC units were, at least up until
the new models post-OCZ acquisition, actually made by SeaSonic (Silencer) or
Win-tact (Turbo Cool). Not sure anymore.

Greg

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardware-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of j maccraw
 Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 2:14 AM
 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
 Subject: Re: [H] probably a really dumb question
 
 You vouce for them as reputable brands Harry? I know
 there are units out there
 just can't find the brands I know are good still
 selling ATX 1.3 units.
 
 Harry McGregor wrote:
  Well, on paper this one specs out.
 
  I have a couple on order for a few spare boxes, but
 I don't have them on
  hand:
 
 
 http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=480W-PWR-BLKcat=PWRcpc=PWRbsc




[H] Converting bad attachment

2008-03-01 Thread Thane Sherrington
I got an email with a PDF attachment that instead of coming as an 
attachment, came embedded in the body as a base64.  Is there a way to 
convert it back to a PDF?


The beginning looks like this:
---7D81B75CCC90D2974F7A1CBD
Content-Type: file/pdf
Content-Disposition: inline; filename=dhr_guest_confirmation24134049.pdf
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64


Then there are lines and lines sort of like this:
JVBERi0xLjQNCjEgMCBvYmoNCjw8DQovQ3JlYXRvciAoT3JhY2xlMTBnUjIgQVMg

I tried copying and pasting the block of text to an online converter, 
but it rejected it as invalid.


T




Re: [H] probably a really dumb question

2008-03-01 Thread Harry McGregor

j maccraw wrote:

You vouce for them as reputable brands Harry? I know
there are units out there 
just can't find the brands I know are good still

selling ATX 1.3 units.

  
I have this one on order for a few small/cheap builds reusing older 
parts, etc.


I can probably let you know what I think of it Monday, but for under 
$15, even if it only lasts 6 months to a year, it's probably worth it

http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=480W-PWR-BLKcat=PWRcpc=PWRbsc
  

   * *Power Specifications:*
   * +3.3V, 32.0A
   * +5V, 36.0A
   * +12V, 16.0A
   * -12V, 0.6A
   * -5V, 0.6A
   * +5Vsb, 2.0 A



   Harry


Re: [H] Converting bad attachment

2008-03-01 Thread Bobby Heid
I don't have an answer for you, but it may be your email client.  Try
forwarding it to another email account that uses a different client (like a
Gmail acct or something).

Bobby

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thane Sherrington
Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 12:16 PM
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: [H] Converting bad attachment

I got an email with a PDF attachment that instead of coming as an 
attachment, came embedded in the body as a base64.  Is there a way to 
convert it back to a PDF?

The beginning looks like this:
---7D81B75CCC90D2974F7A1CBD
Content-Type: file/pdf
Content-Disposition: inline; filename=dhr_guest_confirmation24134049.pdf
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64


Then there are lines and lines sort of like this:
JVBERi0xLjQNCjEgMCBvYmoNCjw8DQovQ3JlYXRvciAoT3JhY2xlMTBnUjIgQVMg

I tried copying and pasting the block of text to an online converter, 
but it rejected it as invalid.

T





Re: [H] probably a really dumb question

2008-03-01 Thread j maccraw


Harry McGregor wrote:
 j maccraw wrote:
 You vouce for them as reputable brands Harry? I
know
 there are units out there just can't find the
brands I know are good 
 still
 selling ATX 1.3 units.

   
 I have this one on order for a few small/cheap
builds reusing older 
 parts, etc.
 
 I can probably let you know what I think of it
Monday, but for under 
 $15, even if it only lasts 6 months to a year, it's
probably worth it

My concern would be one taking my system with it
rather than just dying. =(

I'm waiting for post access to [H]ard|Forum where they
seem to have 
knowledgeable members who can point me at a good
brand. according to members 
there it seems most PSUs other say Seasonic are
re-badged making it near 
impossible for the avg buyer to know who made what
they are buying.

There are compatible Rosewill, Xion, Coolmax, etc...
at the $50-60 mark I'd be 
willing to buy if I could find out who's actually
making them otherwise won't 
because they are considered crap brands.

Still waiting for reply from Antec as to if they will
stand behind this junk 
unit w/ 1year of use on it even though it's past
warranty. Not holding my breath 
 likely never buying another Antec.


http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=480W-PWR-BLKcat=PWRcpc=PWRbsc
  
* *Power Specifications:*
* +3.3V, 32.0A
* +5V, 36.0A
* +12V, 16.0A
* -12V, 0.6A
* -5V, 0.6A
* +5Vsb, 2.0 A
 
 
Harry
 
 


  

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Re: [H] Vista class action

2008-03-01 Thread Brian Weeden
The plot thickens.  158 pages of internal Microsoft emails on the
matter have turned up as part of the court discovery process.  This
page has a good overview as well as links to the whole pdf:

http://apcmag.com/8344/has_vista_lost_all_credibility

Some gems:

In the end, however, the need to placate other hardware vendors
became a major factor -- particularly Intel, which was keen to keep
selling its 915 graphics chipset, which couldn't handle Aero at that
point. 'In the end, we lowered the requirement to help Intel make
their quarterly earnings so they could continue to sell motherboards
with 915 graphics embedded, general manager John Kalkman wrote. It
was a mistake on our part to change the original graphics
requirements.'

In an email to Ballmer, Steven Sinofsky wrote, 'No one really
believed we would ever ship, so they didn't start the work until late
2006. This led to lack of availability. For example, my home
multi-function printer did not have drivers until 2/2 and even pulled
their drivers and re-released them [Brother].'

Sinofsky continued, 'Massive changes in the underpinning for video
and audio led to a really poor experience at RTM, especially with
respect to Windows Media Center. This change led to incompatibilities.
For example, you don't get Aero with an XP [graphics] driver, but your
card might not (ever) have a Vista driver.'

That last one many of us saw coming a mile away, as Microsoft was
forced to re-write the entire audio/video subsystem at the last minute
to placate the Hollywood crowd and allow for HD playback.

---
Brian


Re: [H] Vista class action

2008-03-01 Thread The Beave
Brian,

I know the pain about lowering graphics requirements for Vista, I have a MPC
that is almost unusable with Vista Premium.  Although, plays videos and
songs very nicely. Too bad no video games though. My laptop is a XPS Gen 2
and it is still going strong with Vista Ultimate installed (Installed it
because of work requirements). 

The total opposite can be said for my gaming computer. It has Windows Vista
Ultimate and it runs just as fast as it did with XP MCD. Of course this
computer has upper end gear though. Only thing I am pissed about is
Directsound and the inability to decode 5.1 on SD-PIF. But, alas I live with
it.

I have a question though, were did the e-mails come from? Did Microsoft give
them freely or was there a court order for them?  I did not remember
anything of mentioning that.  If they have not been given freely by
Microsoft or a court order was used the person that handed them can be
charged for theft of the e-mails, since the e-mail belong to Microsoft.

I have personally seen cases of people brought to court for illegally using
company e-mail for personal and/or illegal use. My job gets me into those
situations sometimes :(

Regards,

Tim The Beave Lider
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Weeden
Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 1:11 PM
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] Vista class action

The plot thickens.  158 pages of internal Microsoft emails on the
matter have turned up as part of the court discovery process.  This
page has a good overview as well as links to the whole pdf:

http://apcmag.com/8344/has_vista_lost_all_credibility

Some gems:

In the end, however, the need to placate other hardware vendors
became a major factor -- particularly Intel, which was keen to keep
selling its 915 graphics chipset, which couldn't handle Aero at that
point. 'In the end, we lowered the requirement to help Intel make
their quarterly earnings so they could continue to sell motherboards
with 915 graphics embedded, general manager John Kalkman wrote. It
was a mistake on our part to change the original graphics
requirements.'

In an email to Ballmer, Steven Sinofsky wrote, 'No one really
believed we would ever ship, so they didn't start the work until late
2006. This led to lack of availability. For example, my home
multi-function printer did not have drivers until 2/2 and even pulled
their drivers and re-released them [Brother].'

Sinofsky continued, 'Massive changes in the underpinning for video
and audio led to a really poor experience at RTM, especially with
respect to Windows Media Center. This change led to incompatibilities.
For example, you don't get Aero with an XP [graphics] driver, but your
card might not (ever) have a Vista driver.'

That last one many of us saw coming a mile away, as Microsoft was
forced to re-write the entire audio/video subsystem at the last minute
to placate the Hollywood crowd and allow for HD playback.

---
Brian




Re: [H] Vista class action

2008-03-01 Thread Brian Weeden
Unknown how the emails were obtained as of yet.  All I have read is that
they were introduced into the court session as evidence.  A few were read
out and then the rest were sealed until the session starts up again on
Monday.

If the judge allowed them to be introduced as actual evidence I would assume
that they were obtained legally, but we will have to see.

On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 4:44 PM, The Beave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Brian,

 I know the pain about lowering graphics requirements for Vista, I have a
 MPC
 that is almost unusable with Vista Premium.  Although, plays videos and
 songs very nicely. Too bad no video games though. My laptop is a XPS Gen 2
 and it is still going strong with Vista Ultimate installed (Installed it
 because of work requirements).

 The total opposite can be said for my gaming computer. It has Windows
 Vista
 Ultimate and it runs just as fast as it did with XP MCD. Of course this
 computer has upper end gear though. Only thing I am pissed about is
 Directsound and the inability to decode 5.1 on SD-PIF. But, alas I live
 with
 it.

 I have a question though, were did the e-mails come from? Did Microsoft
 give
 them freely or was there a court order for them?  I did not remember
 anything of mentioning that.  If they have not been given freely by
 Microsoft or a court order was used the person that handed them can be
 charged for theft of the e-mails, since the e-mail belong to Microsoft.

 I have personally seen cases of people brought to court for illegally
 using
 company e-mail for personal and/or illegal use. My job gets me into those
 situations sometimes :(

 Regards,

 Tim The Beave Lider
 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Weeden
 Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 1:11 PM
 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
 Subject: Re: [H] Vista class action

 The plot thickens.  158 pages of internal Microsoft emails on the
 matter have turned up as part of the court discovery process.  This
 page has a good overview as well as links to the whole pdf:

 http://apcmag.com/8344/has_vista_lost_all_credibility

 Some gems:

 In the end, however, the need to placate other hardware vendors
 became a major factor -- particularly Intel, which was keen to keep
 selling its 915 graphics chipset, which couldn't handle Aero at that
 point. 'In the end, we lowered the requirement to help Intel make
 their quarterly earnings so they could continue to sell motherboards
 with 915 graphics embedded, general manager John Kalkman wrote. It
 was a mistake on our part to change the original graphics
 requirements.'

 In an email to Ballmer, Steven Sinofsky wrote, 'No one really
 believed we would ever ship, so they didn't start the work until late
 2006. This led to lack of availability. For example, my home
 multi-function printer did not have drivers until 2/2 and even pulled
 their drivers and re-released them [Brother].'

 Sinofsky continued, 'Massive changes in the underpinning for video
 and audio led to a really poor experience at RTM, especially with
 respect to Windows Media Center. This change led to incompatibilities.
 For example, you don't get Aero with an XP [graphics] driver, but your
 card might not (ever) have a Vista driver.'

 That last one many of us saw coming a mile away, as Microsoft was
 forced to re-write the entire audio/video subsystem at the last minute
 to placate the Hollywood crowd and allow for HD playback.

 ---
 Brian