Re: [H] Laptop battery life
The hard part about answer that question is what applications does he plan to run for said time period. It is easy to find a word processing/minor internet notebook with 4-6 hour battery life. On the other hand it is very difficult to find a machine that can run intensive cpu/gpu applications for 4 hours. Currently I have a m1330 with a 9 cell battery it can easily push 6 hours with the newer 45 nm cpus. Another factor is in may-june the new chipsets will help further increase battery life even further. There is also the new ultra lower power intel cpus which might be able to do what he needs...(atom etc) The 8.9 EEE pc looks interesting when you consider they are estimate close to 8 hours when they upgrade the cpu for example. http://www.notebookreview.com/ is not a bad site to look at various reviews, combined with the forums you can often get a good gauge on estimate battery life. You also need to consider how most li ion batteries degrade over time. This means they will have to be replaced if you aim for a notebook which pushing the bare minimum. So in the end it really depends on the applications he plans to run...
Re: [H] Freaky Friday WinXP install -- (a bit long)
Jim, OK. I sorta understand your True Image app use. I know zip about Linux, other than it is another os. Really can not comment on it. I might suggest a check that both the nVidia drivers for the on-board appliancs (NForce), and the drivers for Sil3114 are up to date. Someone else mentioned a possibly flakey SouthBridge chip. I suppose a case might be made for it to be overloaded. I have never been a fan of Sparkle (r) psus, but I defer to others more knowledgeable :) Are there any dust bunnies laying about on the m/b traces? (channel cross-talk) At this point, I'm running out of ideas. Hmm. :) Best, Duncan At 19:06 03/09/2008 -0700, you wrote: Duncan, Actually the recovery disk for True Image is Linux based. It loads from CD after boot but before Windows loads. It also comes with a Windows based program that will create the image from within Windows. You have to re-boot to the Linux program only when restoring the C:/boot drive. As long as I am within Windows, True Image works perfectly. Only when I try to restore the C: drive does it require a re-boot to the Linux version and I loose contact with most of the hard drives. One hard drive (and always the same one) is visible. The other drive on the same controller is NOT visible. I haven't tried moving them around to see if it is the spot on the controller or the drive itself that makes a difference. As True Image boots to the program in Linux, there is a a flash on the screen saying the nVidia and Sil3114 controllers (the controllers on the motherboard) have been found, followed by a message that no volumes were found. The Opteron is a socket 939 dual core processor, almost identical to some of the higher clock speed AMD64 X2 CPUs that AMD stopped making. It is 2.6 GHz. Dual core, single socket. The psu is a Sparkle Power FSP550-60PLN-B 550 Watts EPS12V Switching Power Supply. If the psu is working, it should provide sufficient power. Of course, if it is failing, all bets are off. I don't have dual video cards or a power hungry single video card. It will take some time to remove a power supply from another system to test the theory that the Sparkle is dying. Will let you know what I find out. I may be in denial, but the repeated weird problems seem to be getting progressively worse in a way I would not attribute to the psu. Removing the 750 GB WD drive that was showing slow transfer times and putting it back into the external enclosure produced a new problem. As long as the drive was attached to the nVidia controller, the computer would stick at the searching for drives section of the nVidia boot process. As soon as I removed the drive, it booted fine. I moved the drive to one of the pcie-X1 SATA ports and everything boots fine. More and more I am suspicious of the on-board SATA controllers. I have never been able to mount a boot drive on the Sil3114 ports and now the nVidia seem to be acting up. Unfortunately, it take time to test each hypothesis. In the meantime, my main system is down making life a little more complicated. Thanks for all the comments and suggestions. I will be trying to implement them in the next couple of days. Jim Maki [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: DHSinclair Jim, Going to suppose that TrueImage is a sw system and that it has to be loaded after-the-fact (post boot, post logon). As such, it presumes that the base machine's power is AOK as well as all the machines I/O. As with base OS systems, I suspect that TrueImage will have internal problems if one or more of the hard drives are mis-reporting due to weak/marginal power. On top of this is your Opteron. I have to believe that this cpu is in the power saving category, but could be wrong. I have never had/used such exotics. Believe Winterlight could chime in here with stories about his dual-Xeon experience too. Your psu may be on the edge of its' ability to supply all the power your chosen HW is demanding ATM. And, when something/anything makes a demand on the psu for whatever reason, the psu sags and everyone else goes a bit goofy. A bit goofy may be correctable, bigger goofy nets odd events and blue screens. It does read as if your current psu has run out of capacity for whatever the reason. Which PSU is in use ATM? Just with your hard drives and CD drives I count ~25A of static (no load current). And, this does not include your cpu, m/b, and I/O card set. With what you shared to Brian a couple back, I'd hope you were using a 600W psu (maybe), 800W psu (better), or 1KW psu (best) just so that you have the necessary power headroom (spare capacity) to handle untoward demands. Again, JMHO. Until my Enermax fiasco 2 years ago, I have yet to have a psu related failure. My glitches fall into the pilot-error, PEBCAK, and way over my head category!!! LOL!! Best, Duncan
[H] rant Memory speed race needs to stop
This dick swinging between memory manufacturers concerning who has the fastest memory, stability be damned, has got to stop. http://www.tomshardware.com/2008/03/10/cebit_fastest_memory_earth/ CeBIT 2008: The Fastest Memory on Earth Every year, manufacturer of memory modules fight for the fastest module crown. Corsair wins, once again, this year's title by reaching 2 133 MHz or only 33 MHz more than OCZ, but at aggressive timings: 8-8-8-24. The equivalent in DDR1 would hypothetically be a module running at 533 MHz CAS 2, which may be more meaningful. Running on an NVIDIA reference motherboard built on a 790i chipset, this accomplishment requires a voltage of 2.1 V. The machine crashed when we came on the booth and had to reboot before we could launch CPU-Z and verify the value. Let's note that the kit isn't available in retail yet, but should be at the end of the month. It'll only available with CAS 9 timings though, which seems to indicate that the module isn't really stable. Of course, there aren't any prices as usual on Corsair's high end. Ok, so Corsair has DDR3 memory that runs fastprovided you over-volt it from 1.5v to 2.1v and reboot your PC every now and then because it's unstable garbage. Great! Let's charge $400 a DIMM and frag on! Mainstream tech press is now giving these overclocked turds a pass with sensational article titles hinting that the memory is indeed the fastest on earth when in fact it's NOT, because the DIMM FAILED at the speed they bragged about. Call me a pedant (I prefer orthodox), but the fastest memory IMHO is a module that runs at the highest frequency at spec voltage with the best timings possible. In the case with DDR3, a lot of modules sold as 1333mhz will only guarantee operation at out-of-spec voltage, regardless of the timings. That really, REALLY stinks. Great example of irony here: Kingston actually has one of the fastest DDR3-1333 modules out there, a DIMM rated for 1333mhz @ 1.5V running 8-8-8-24 http://www.valueram.com/datasheets/KVR1333D3N8_1G.pdf This is their VALUE ram, the supposed cheap stuff, whereas a DDR3-1375 module (there is no such thing) from their pricey HyperX memory is in reality a DDR3-1066 DIMM that needs to be overvolted to 1.7v to work at DDR3-1333. _ Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live. http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_Wave2_sharelife_012008
Re: [H] rant Memory speed race needs to stop
I dont see that much on an issue TBH. These memory modules will only be sold to the gullible anyway. The vast majority of consumers only use the mainstream speeds. This type of RAM is only for the benchmarking e-peen croud. Regards, Jason Tozer Database Analyst London Ext 1131 - 3SC.5 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Hayes Elkins Sent: 10 March 2008 17:41 To: Hardware Group Subject: [H] rant Memory speed race needs to stop This dick swinging between memory manufacturers concerning who has the fastest memory, stability be damned, has got to stop. http://www.tomshardware.com/2008/03/10/cebit_fastest_memory_earth/ CeBIT 2008: The Fastest Memory on Earth SNIP This message and any attachment are confidential and may be privileged or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, please telephone or email the sender and delete this message and any attachment from your system. If you are not the intended recipient you must not copy this message or attachment or disclose the contents to any other person. Incoming and outgoing email communications may be monitored by Clifford Chance, as permitted by applicable law and regulations. For further information about Clifford Chance please see our website at http://www.cliffordchance.com or refer to any Clifford Chance office. Clifford Chance LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England Wales under number OC323571. The firm's registered office and principal place of business is at 10 Upper Bank Street, London, E14 5JJ. For further details, including a list of members and their professional qualifications, see our website at www.cliffordchance.com. The firm uses the word 'partner' to refer to a member of Clifford Chance LLP or an employee or consultant with equivalent standing and qualifications. The firm is regulated by the Solicitors Regulation Authority. The Authority's rules can be accessed by clicking on the following link: http://www.sra.org.uk/code-of-conduct.page
Re: [H] rant Memory speed race needs to stop
Hayes, I have followed your thread now for the past 3 years and you get my vote too! Even though I do not even yet use any of the discussed memory. Hell, I just finished getting what amounts to prehistoric spec memory for two of my old PCs (thankfully still available!). Time for the RAM-Wars to take a break! Let's let everything else catch up..(or try to). :) Best, Duncan At 13:41 03/10/2008 -0400, you wrote: This dick swinging between memory manufacturers concerning who has the fastest memory, stability be damned, has got to stop. http://www.tomshardware.com/2008/03/10/cebit_fastest_memory_earth/ CeBIT 2008: The Fastest Memory on Earth Every year, manufacturer of memory modules fight for the fastest module crown. Corsair wins, once again, this year's title by reaching 2 133 MHz or only 33 MHz more than OCZ, but at aggressive timings: 8-8-8-24. The equivalent in DDR1 would hypothetically be a module running at 533 MHz CAS 2, which may be more meaningful. Running on an NVIDIA reference motherboard built on a 790i chipset, this accomplishment requires a voltage of 2.1 V. The machine crashed when we came on the booth and had to reboot before we could launch CPU-Z and verify the value. Let's note that the kit isn't available in retail yet, but should be at the end of the month. It'll only available with CAS 9 timings though, which seems to indicate that the module isn't really stable. Of course, there aren't any prices as usual on Corsair's high end. Ok, so Corsair has DDR3 memory that runs fastprovided you over-volt it from 1.5v to 2.1v and reboot your PC every now and then because it's unstable garbage. Great! Let's charge $400 a DIMM and frag on! Mainstream tech press is now giving these overclocked turds a pass with sensational article titles hinting that the memory is indeed the fastest on earth when in fact it's NOT, because the DIMM FAILED at the speed they bragged about. Call me a pedant (I prefer orthodox), but the fastest memory IMHO is a module that runs at the highest frequency at spec voltage with the best timings possible. In the case with DDR3, a lot of modules sold as 1333mhz will only guarantee operation at out-of-spec voltage, regardless of the timings. That really, REALLY stinks. Great example of irony here: Kingston actually has one of the fastest DDR3-1333 modules out there, a DIMM rated for 1333mhz @ 1.5V running 8-8-8-24 http://www.valueram.com/datasheets/KVR1333D3N8_1G.pdf This is their VALUE ram, the supposed cheap stuff, whereas a DDR3-1375 module (there is no such thing) from their pricey HyperX memory is in reality a DDR3-1066 DIMM that needs to be overvolted to 1.7v to work at DDR3-1333. _ Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live. http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_Wave2_sharelife_012008
Re: [H] Freaky Friday WinXP install -- Update
I installed a new power supply in the computer and it made no difference. I had the same problems in the same places. Initially, I disconnected everything and tried the new power supply with only the video card, and SATA RAID0 boot array. No Go. It would boot just fine. Added the DVD/RW but True Image would still not see the array. Added the 750 GB WD SATA II drive and the system froze at the nVidia boot screen. Adding a Sil3132 pcie-x1 controller with the 750 GB WD attached and the system booted fine. Added the JMicron pcie-X1 controller and the rest of the drives and the system would boot just fine. Tried to boot to True Image and it could see only 1 drive. Moved the drive to a different controller, and True Image could still only see that one drive. This is suspicious that the location of the drive is unimportant. True Image can see it and not any other drive regardless of the controller. May be a True Image problem after all. Will try re-installing and creating a new recovery disk. Did some investigation on the purchase of a new socket 939 that will accept the Opteron 185. The only ones I could find were either VERY expensive server boards, or some ~$100 Tyan and Asus server boards at Newegg. The reviews were less than perfect, although some people raved about the boards, other had boot problems and other indicated the board layout precluded using a large HSF and pcie-X16 video board. So, does anyone have any more suggestions or observations? Or is there an Intel core 2 duo in my future? Thanks, Jim Maki [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [H] Strange Hard Drive Problem
j, I agree. You did get it half right! LOL! The antec is toast. I know we can bench-race the 3% of the 5v rail (~4.85v). I will let you win. I change psus when I see the 5v rail reading 4.98v, or the 12v rail reading 11.97v. 5v is 5v and 12v is 12v. I use the canned asus probe utility. Suppose MBM works good also, but I've problems with much of its' added features. When the psu can not regulate to the stated voltage, it is toast. Perhaps just me. Best, Duncan At 14:05 03/10/2008 -0700, you wrote: 1st boot both would not be there, reboot only the second missing, then both show on 3rd boot kind of thing. As far as errors go both the SATA's threw new bad sectors daily to the point I was cursing Sleazgate again as I run over 20hrs of Seagate DST testing wondering how 2 seagates could be such junk. No reprieve on that until I swap PSU have no more bad sectors!. Problems didn't start until I added the 2 SATA's to the 2 IDE's + CD + DVD in the box. Guessing the load was just too much for the poor antec. MBM was telling me my 5V was over 3% out of spec, I've just been ignoring it thinking false positive on shitty Antec PSU. I was half right, lol. James Maki wrote: Were the problems consistent, i.e., always the same drive(s) disappearing, or was it variable depending on the day, phase of the moon, etc. My problems seem consistent, always the same drive(s) missing or causing a problem. Jim -Original Message- From: j maccraw I'd be looking for sagging power lines based on what I am going through with my Antec 480W. Weird reboots, drives not showing up on reboots, bad sectors cropping up constantly on 2 new seagate 7200.10's, etc All traced back to a sagging 5V line and confirmed by opening the Antec PSU to find puffed/leaking crapola caps from Fujyyu. Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
Re: [H] Strange Hard Drive Problem
3% is prime ( TPB was rated here), 6-10% I thought was common for ATX 1.x PSU? It had been skirting 4.7ish for the longest time so I chalked it up to crap PSU not thinking it would get worse, duh! Well these particular Antec's (True Power) are now infamous for failing within a year or so due to bad caps. Sadly my system sat for just over a year after the PSU RMA in November 2005 (just long enough to be out of warranty) until I could afford a AGP video card to power it up in January 2007. Hence a year, 1 month later in 2008 I have another dead Antec with less than 3yrs run-time total between them. Worse, Antec frakkers wouldn't do anything for me given the unit was bought 9/2003 despite the described total run-time and the massive failures of this model. No more Antec's for me regardless of who ODM's for them. At some point I will replace the caps with new ones save this as a backup PSU. DHSinclair wrote: j, I agree. You did get it half right! LOL! The antec is toast. I know we can bench-race the 3% of the 5v rail (~4.85v). I will let you win. I change psus when I see the 5v rail reading 4.98v, or the 12v rail reading 11.97v. 5v is 5v and 12v is 12v. I use the canned asus probe utility. Suppose MBM works good also, but I've problems with much of its' added features. When the psu can not regulate to the stated voltage, it is toast. Perhaps just me. Best, Duncan At 14:05 03/10/2008 -0700, you wrote: 1st boot both would not be there, reboot only the second missing, then both show on 3rd boot kind of thing. As far as errors go both the SATA's threw new bad sectors daily to the point I was cursing Sleazgate again as I run over 20hrs of Seagate DST testing wondering how 2 seagates could be such junk. No reprieve on that until I swap PSU have no more bad sectors!. Problems didn't start until I added the 2 SATA's to the 2 IDE's + CD + DVD in the box. Guessing the load was just too much for the poor antec. MBM was telling me my 5V was over 3% out of spec, I've just been ignoring it thinking false positive on shitty Antec PSU. I was half right, lol. Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping
[H] Surge suppressor / power filter
Looking for what the list uses to protect their computers / home theater equipment. I'm a EE by training so you don't need to educate me on the benefits of clean power, I'm just looking for advice on what products people have used that are good and those that are crap. It would be protecting my home theater and a HTPC and a phone cable jack would be nice. I was thinking a Monster Power HTS 950 would do me just fine but I don't have a lot of experience with their products. - Brian Weeden Technical Consultant Secure World Foundation
Re: [H] Multiple monitors from laptop
The Matrox solution is very neat I use the dual version at work with two monitors and Laptop giving the third. The Triple head solution will allow you to have 4 including the laptop. The only downside to the Matrox solution is it treats all the additional monitors (excluding notebook LCD) as one monitor so progs like Ultramon don't work as you might expect. Also the max resolution for each individual monitor is 1280x1024. I have two viewsonic 1280x1024 monitors at work and the quality is perfect. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of j maccraw Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2008 9:29 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Multiple monitors from laptop Matrox has Dual Triple head in both analog digital last time I drooled over the page. Trick is your video card has to be a able to drive a wide enough screen size to equal the total desktop size. Say 2400x600 for 3 800x600 displays Winterlight wrote: Matrox makes an external box that does this, assuming when you write three monitors, one of them is the laptop. http://www.directionsmag.com/features.php?feature_id=136 At 06:03 AM 3/8/2008, you wrote: Has anyone used three monitors from a laptop? I've been looking at this USB video card, but some reviews suggest it is slow. http://www.iogear.com/solutions/desktop/?view=61 I was thinking a PCMCIA video card might be a better choice, but I can't find any. T Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail message, please notify the sender and delete all copies immediately. The sender believes this message and any attachments were sent free of any virus, worm, Trojan horse, and other forms of malicious code. This message and its attachments could have been infected during transmission. The recipient opens any attachments at the recipient's own risk, and in so doing, the recipient accepts full responsibility for such actions and agrees to take protective and remedial action relating to any malicious code. Travelport is not liable for any loss or damage arising from this message or its attachments.
Re: [H] Surge suppressor / power filter
Isn't Monster by definition overpriced and not worth it? Eli -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Weeden Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 8:42 PM To: hwg Subject: [H] Surge suppressor / power filter Looking for what the list uses to protect their computers / home theater equipment. I'm a EE by training so you don't need to educate me on the benefits of clean power, I'm just looking for advice on what products people have used that are good and those that are crap. It would be protecting my home theater and a HTPC and a phone cable jack would be nice. I was thinking a Monster Power HTS 950 would do me just fine but I don't have a lot of experience with their products. - Brian Weeden Technical Consultant Secure World Foundation
Re: [H] Surge suppressor / power filter
Don't know. Normally I would happen to agree with you if we were talking about Monster cables. Just not sure if that same logic applies to the rest of their products. That one is about $150, cheap ones with similar Joule ratings come in around $50 or so. Monster also claims to have a $150,000 warranty on any attached gear that gets fried. The problem is, I have never had an issue with electrical equipment being damaged by surges, brownouts, blackouts, or lightning strikes. I do use an APC UPS for my HTPC and have always used cheap surge protectors but never knew if they were actually doing anything or whether I was just lucky. I have always lived in areas with pretty constant (and clean) power so that's probably a factor. But I do know that there is a difference between clean and dirty power and that the things I mentioned above can destroy electronics. So hopefully someone on the list has had experience with cheap surge protectors failing or in getting Monster to live up to the money and hype, or something along those lines. - Brian Weeden Technical Consultant Secure World Foundation On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 8:52 PM, Eli Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Isn't Monster by definition overpriced and not worth it? Eli -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Weeden Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 8:42 PM To: hwg Subject: [H] Surge suppressor / power filter Looking for what the list uses to protect their computers / home theater equipment. I'm a EE by training so you don't need to educate me on the benefits of clean power, I'm just looking for advice on what products people have used that are good and those that are crap. It would be protecting my home theater and a HTPC and a phone cable jack would be nice. I was thinking a Monster Power HTS 950 would do me just fine but I don't have a lot of experience with their products. - Brian Weeden Technical Consultant Secure World Foundation
Re: [H] Surge suppressor / power filter
Brian, Look at Best Power or APC. Most else is still trying to get there. Best, Duncan At 20:42 03/10/2008 -0400, you wrote: Looking for what the list uses to protect their computers / home theater equipment. I'm a EE by training so you don't need to educate me on the benefits of clean power, I'm just looking for advice on what products people have used that are good and those that are crap. It would be protecting my home theater and a HTPC and a phone cable jack would be nice. I was thinking a Monster Power HTS 950 would do me just fine but I don't have a lot of experience with their products. - Brian Weeden Technical Consultant Secure World Foundation
Re: [H] Surge suppressor / power filter
Thanks. I've used APC UPS' before and I've been happy with them. I like the C3 surge protector. - Brian Weeden Technical Consultant Secure World Foundation On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 9:33 PM, DHSinclair [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brian, Look at Best Power or APC. Most else is still trying to get there. Best, Duncan At 20:42 03/10/2008 -0400, you wrote: Looking for what the list uses to protect their computers / home theater equipment. I'm a EE by training so you don't need to educate me on the benefits of clean power, I'm just looking for advice on what products people have used that are good and those that are crap. It would be protecting my home theater and a HTPC and a phone cable jack would be nice. I was thinking a Monster Power HTS 950 would do me just fine but I don't have a lot of experience with their products. - Brian Weeden Technical Consultant Secure World Foundation
Re: [H] Surge suppressor / power filter
I pretty much use APC exclusively. I have my pc hooked up to 2 APC UPS's. One of them has power conditioning, powering the PC itself, and the other has the monitor, router, etc. on it. I also use APC surge suppressors for items that do not need battery back-up or power conditioning. I do have one Belkin UPS that has power conditioning that I have on my HDTV (got a really good deal on it). Bobby -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Weeden Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 8:42 PM To: hwg Subject: [H] Surge suppressor / power filter Looking for what the list uses to protect their computers / home theater equipment. I'm a EE by training so you don't need to educate me on the benefits of clean power, I'm just looking for advice on what products people have used that are good and those that are crap. It would be protecting my home theater and a HTPC and a phone cable jack would be nice. I was thinking a Monster Power HTS 950 would do me just fine but I don't have a lot of experience with their products. - Brian Weeden Technical Consultant Secure World Foundation
Re: [H] Surge suppressor / power filter
My very first Computer years ago (a Dell -- before I became a builder), suffered from all sorts of problems, and LOADS of in warranty repairs. (Ever hear of anyone getting 5 MBs out of them for the same machine...?) (I had the better service contract from the better division of the company.) The ONLY things they never changed were the floppy drive and the tape drive... I used to like hearing the Texas Radio-on-hold at 4AM while waiting for a senior tech to pick up... (The best ones came in early...) Then I got an APC UPS, and on the first day listened to it trip on and off around 50-100 times... So much, the local Power Company (much to their credit) sent a truck out... To make a long story short, they found a VERY poor connection on a pole about 100-200 ft down the street from my house... After getting a new MB again, and a new APC-UPS (in warranty), all my problems suddenly stopped... THERE WERE NO OTHER SYMPTOMS or any other early failures in my house or my neighbors.. Get something, and get it first... JMHO, YMMV... Rick Glazier, Former GEEIA From: Brian Weeden But I do know that there is a difference between clean and dirty power and that the things I mentioned above can destroy electronics. So hopefully someone on the list has had experience with cheap surge protectors failing or in getting Monster to live up to the money and hype, or something along those lines.
Re: [H] Surge suppressor / power filter
I use a 1200 watt APC Smart UPS for my computer gear. True sine wave output. :) Looking for what the list uses to protect their computers / home theater equipment. I'm a EE by training so you don't need to educate me on the benefits of clean power, I'm just looking for advice on what products people have used that are good and those that are crap. It would be protecting my home theater and a HTPC and a phone cable jack would be nice. I was thinking a Monster Power HTS 950 would do me just fine but I don't have a lot of experience with their products. - Brian Weeden Technical Consultant Secure World Foundation -- JRS [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please remove **X** to reply... ...Cleverly Disguised As A Responsible Adult...
Re: [H] Surge suppressor / power filter
At 00:53 03/11/08, JRS wrote: I use a 1200 watt APC Smart UPS for my computer gear. True sine wave output. :) Three computers here (each with 10 internal SCSI drives)...three APC SmartUPS 1500 (computer, external drives, monitor for each UPS). Plus one SmartUPS 1000 for the little stuff: two routers, two switches, a printer server, and my wireless phone system's base station. (The SmartUPS 1000 started out on one of the aforementioned computers but I noticed one day that adding a measly thumb drive to one of the computers overloaded the 1000 VA UPS, setting off its alarm.) There's a vertical set of 5 lights on each of these SmartUPS models that indicates % of max load. The SmartUPS 1000 shows no lights lit. Each of the SmartUPS 1500 shows 2 lights lit. (The SmartUPS 1000 showed 5 lights lit when it was on a computer.) I've replaced the batteries on each of these UPS at least once. I get about three years on each set (two internal batteries in each) of batteries. Regards, Bill
