Re: [H] Reboot Problem

2008-05-01 Thread xtempore

On Thu, 01 May 2008 09:43:11 -0500
"Gary" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Has anyone had a HD that gave no problem installing not only XP but dozens
> of programs (after two formats) then causing a intermit problem?

Forgive my stating the obvious, but things work right up until they
don't.  ;-)

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Re: [H] Add to your list of vendors to avoid

2008-05-01 Thread Thane Sherrington

At 11:32 PM 30/04/2008, j maccraw wrote:

Sapphire Technologies has just made my shit list for
the issues I am having the
HD3870X2 & broken fan support. Fraking thing idles
@60C due to the fan not ramping up
as it gets hot due to some glitch in the BIOS or
something.


I must point out that I've been selling Sapphire products for about 
four years with zero failures.  So I can't comment on their service 
but the quality has been excellent.  (I deal with my distributor, and 
my customers deal with me, so I guess it doesn't matter much 
anyway.)   I will keep this in mind though, thanks J.


T 





Re: [H] Add to your list of vendors to avoid

2008-05-01 Thread j maccraw
Well well, Newegg get's a +1 today. Seems they will
pay for shipping back & fro AND 
issue a next day shipment when UPS shows the package
accepted at the UPS store.

Not that this was their initial offer mind you, but 2
emails later they agreed to 
this much but declared "we not getting any returns on
these". Bunk I assume given how 
widespread the problem seems to be going back more
than a few months.

Ah well, so I have to take it into Spokane on monday &
hope that means new card 
before Wednesday. Of course I could just end up with
the next card on the pallet and 
the same problem, sigh.

Sapphire on the other hand would not even make the
explicit statement that a 
replacement card would not have the same issue even
when directly asked that question.


  

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Re: [H] Reboot Problem

2008-05-01 Thread j maccraw
When my PSU was failing I had no end of trouble with 4
HDD's throwing unrecoverable 
sector errors. Run Seatools, flag 'em, reboot and
hours/days later i'd get 
hangs/stutters, repeat. Then the BSOD's started and in
the end it was the PSU because 
system was trouble free for the month before I
switched to new PC.



Gary wrote:
> Just because it was easier, I pulled the HD (btw
everything was brand new)
> and replaced it with one from one of my other
computers that just had
> storage files on it and installed XP and booted it
up and it has not BSOD
> for 17 hours. The only upgrade I did on it was the
video drivers and the
> motherboard drivers.
> 
> While I'm happy that I may have found the problem.
I'm not yet convinced. 
> 
> Has anyone had a HD that gave no problem installing
not only XP but dozens
> of programs (after two formats) then causing a
intermit problem??
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Winterlight
> Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 2:23 PM
> To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
> Subject: Re: [H] Reboot Problem
> 
> At 11:50 AM 4/30/2008, you wrote:
>> OK Guru's.here is the problem
>>
>> Got box running XP Pro; and it reboots several
times a day on its own (just
>> sitting there or not).
> 
> Assuming you are not over clocking or running hot,
then spontaneous 
> reboots are almost always caused by bad RAM. You
write that you have 
> replaced the system RAM, but not the video RAM. I
would swap out the 
> video card with any other video card to see if the
problem goes away. 
> If that isn't it, suspect the PS. 
> 
> 
> 


  

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Re: [H] Reboot Problem

2008-05-01 Thread Rick Glazier

It is not "if" they will fail,  but "WHEN"...

Did you run any non-distructive diagnostics?

  Rick Glazier

From: "Gary" 
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Has anyone had a HD that gave no problem installing not only XP but dozens
of programs (after two formats) then causing a intermit problem??




Re: [H] Reboot Problem

2008-05-01 Thread Gary
Just because it was easier, I pulled the HD (btw everything was brand new)
and replaced it with one from one of my other computers that just had
storage files on it and installed XP and booted it up and it has not BSOD
for 17 hours. The only upgrade I did on it was the video drivers and the
motherboard drivers.

While I'm happy that I may have found the problem. I'm not yet convinced. 

Has anyone had a HD that gave no problem installing not only XP but dozens
of programs (after two formats) then causing a intermit problem??

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Winterlight
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 2:23 PM
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] Reboot Problem

At 11:50 AM 4/30/2008, you wrote:
>OK Guru's.here is the problem
>
>Got box running XP Pro; and it reboots several times a day on its own (just
>sitting there or not).

Assuming you are not over clocking or running hot, then spontaneous 
reboots are almost always caused by bad RAM. You write that you have 
replaced the system RAM, but not the video RAM. I would swap out the 
video card with any other video card to see if the problem goes away. 
If that isn't it, suspect the PS. 



Re: [H] Add to your list of vendors to avoid

2008-05-01 Thread j maccraw
Thanks Joe!

Chapter one is written, but the story is far from
over. I think we all know what kind 
of an asshole I can be and I'm not conceding loss yet.
Biggest sticking point for me 
is IF (big IF) then have a functional card I want
x-ship & call tags because I am not 
paying anymore $$$ for this thing nor being down for
weeks. As it is I'm getting 
burnt for $40 because I ordered less than a week
before the price drop & rebate 
kicked in, so I am digging my heels in.

Nvidia was a non-starter here and the card is damn
fast if the cool just worked the 
way it's supposed to! There's a lot of flack going
around that I did not see before 
ordering and it's not just Sapphire though they are
"No. 1 Manufacturer".

http://forums.amd.com/game/messageview.cfm?catid=260&threadid=92645


Joe User wrote:
> Hello j,
> 
> Wednesday, April 30, 2008, 8:32:36 PM, you wrote:
> 

> 
>> So folks, spend your funds somewhere else because
>> official & unofficial this smells 
>> of BS!
> 
> 
> Good info - thanks for sharing - sucks you got
burnt.
> 
> 


  

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Re: [H] Add to your list of vendors to avoid

2008-05-01 Thread j maccraw
Hence why I bought from them.


Rick Glazier wrote:
> I thought I recognized them too:
> * Sapphire Technologies is actually the main partner
> * of ATI in the video card sphere. This company
produces
> * the broadest line on the ATI's processors. The
company
> * is based in Hong Kong but is a daughter enterprise
of PC
> * Partner which is the greatest Chinese components
> * manufacturer and an old partner of ATI (today all
video
> * cards "Built by ATI" are produced at the PC
Partner's plants).
>   
Rick Glazier
> 
> From: "Wayne Johnson" j maccraw typed:
>>> Sapphire Technologies
> 
> From: "Wayne Johnson"
>> I don't know why but I never trusted Sapphire with
my $$$ & now I'm 
>> glad that I felt that way.
> 
> 
> 


  

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