Re: [H] Radeon HD 3870 playing H264 videos in MKV containers in hardware, woot

2008-06-15 Thread Winterlight
I decided to give this a try with the same video. VLC does choke, 
although I am only using less then 20 percent CPU when it chokes.


How did you get PowerDVD 8 to play the mkv file? It won't play if for 
me. I have the same codecs installed, and I have plenty of hardware 
muscle to do this. PowerDVD ignores  the file.





At 06:49 AM 5/24/2008, you wrote:

Just a little success story here, I sourced a cheap Dell for a client
(seriously good deal IMO, £291 for a Vostro 400 w/ 2.4Ghz Allendale,
3GB of ram, Terabyte of disk, wireless, Vista Home Premium, set of
speakers with a sub, a wireless router, a surge protected plugboard.)
and dropped a 3870 into it, as it's going to be used in a sort of
media center'ish sort of way plugged into a 32 high def TV

Installed the CCCP codec pack (unchecking use ffmpeg for x264),
installed PowerDVD 8, turned on hardware acceleration within
PowerDVD... fired up a 7GB/hr h264 video (It's the Top Gear Polar
Special in 1080P), which historically completely slaughters machines,
VLC on the 4Ghz Wolfdale sits at 67% cpu utilisation with it (which
means a 2.4Ghz chip with 1/3rd the cache has no chance in hell of
playing it smoothly)

on the 2.4Ghz Allendale...

13% cpu utilization

THIRTEEN PERCENT, good grief, that's probably just the storm of
interrupts from shuffling the data over the network and to the GPU, wow.

the ease at which this was accomplished is making a Sempron or low end
A64 X2 on a 780G (which has the same video decoder core of course)
really really tempting for a media center box to replace the
makeshift E6600/i680/7800GT box I've got performing those duties now
(with CoreAVC on decoding duty, which is much faster for h264 decode
than VLC just for the record.)


I'm mainly amazed at how easy it was to get it to work :)

So, yeah, grvy :)

-JB





Re: [H] Radeon HD 3870 playing H264 videos in MKV containers in hardware, woot

2008-06-15 Thread Winterlight


OK, but they won't support HD at 1080p?
 This file is Top.Gear.Polar.Special.2007.BBC-HD.1080p.H.264.AC3.2.0.mkv

At 11:32 AM 6/15/2008, you wrote:

I myself use Simple Media Player or Media Player Classic. I also use FFDSHOW
Codex as well.

Simple Media Player and Codex at http://smplayer.sf.net

Media Player Classic can be found at
http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=82303

FFDShow can be found at http://sourceforge.net/projects/ffdshow/

Good luck,

Tim The Beave Lider
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: [H] OT - Proof that audiophiles are idiots- the $500Ethernet cable

2008-06-15 Thread Hayes Elkins

None of those brands are really high priced high end either...if you want 
insane prices to match an insane cable, Krell, Cary, Theta, Mark Levinson fit 
the bill...


 Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 13:27:30 -0400
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
 Subject: Re: [H] OT - Proof that audiophiles are idiots- the $500Ethernet 
 cable

 Yeah, but the types of people who are buying $500 cables are not the
 types that will typically buy Denon gear. They're more in Marantz,
 Rotel, NAD, etc. territory. (And even Marantz is pretty low brow in the
 audiophile world.)

 Working quite well is another story. I know people with HTIAB systems
 that work quite well. They sound pretty good to me.

 DHSinclair wrote:
 maybe you've never used the Denon POA-3000-5000 series Class A amps.
 Or their mono-blocs. Have a POA-3000 that works quite well. Different
 strokes perhaps.
 Duncan

 At 22:21 06/13/2008 -0400, you wrote:
 Nobody has mentioned that audiophiles are not likely to be running
 Denon gear in the first place.



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Re: [H] Radeon HD 3870 playing H264 videos in MKV containers in hardware, woot

2008-06-15 Thread The Beave
With the correct codec they will.

Regards,

Tim The Beave Lider
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Winterlight
Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 11:49 AM
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] Radeon HD 3870 playing H264 videos in MKV containers in
hardware, woot


OK, but they won't support HD at 1080p?
  This file is Top.Gear.Polar.Special.2007.BBC-HD.1080p.H.264.AC3.2.0.mkv

At 11:32 AM 6/15/2008, you wrote:
I myself use Simple Media Player or Media Player Classic. I also use
FFDSHOW
Codex as well.

Simple Media Player and Codex at http://smplayer.sf.net

Media Player Classic can be found at
http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=82303

FFDShow can be found at http://sourceforge.net/projects/ffdshow/

Good luck,

Tim The Beave Lider
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]





Re: [H] Radeon HD 3870 playing H264 videos in MKV containers in hardware, woot

2008-06-15 Thread Winterlight
Are you sure? I am confused about  all this but everything I have 
read says only PowerDVD 7 with the HD upgrade, and PowerDVD 8 will do 
this properly.



At 12:04 PM 6/15/2008, you wrote:

With the correct codec they will.

Regards,

Tim The Beave Lider
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Winterlight
Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 11:49 AM
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] Radeon HD 3870 playing H264 videos in MKV containers in
hardware, woot


OK, but they won't support HD at 1080p?
  This file is Top.Gear.Polar.Special.2007.BBC-HD.1080p.H.264.AC3.2.0.mkv

At 11:32 AM 6/15/2008, you wrote:
I myself use Simple Media Player or Media Player Classic. I also use
FFDSHOW
Codex as well.

Simple Media Player and Codex at http://smplayer.sf.net

Media Player Classic can be found at
http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=82303

FFDShow can be found at http://sourceforge.net/projects/ffdshow/

Good luck,

Tim The Beave Lider
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: [H] Radeon HD 3870 playing H264 videos in MKV containers in hardware, woot

2008-06-15 Thread Hayes Elkins

I suggest Media Player Classic - Home Cinema edition. It is a project that 
supports hardware DXVA internally with no external filters/codecs required at 
all. A new build is released every few days because it is constantly tweaked. 
You can switch outputs from overley, VMR7/9 (and renderless) plus a hack to use 
Vista's EVR in XP. http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=123537

For the rare HD media you encounter out in the wild that wont play nice with 
MPC-HC, I fall back on WMP 11 and use the codecs in The Codec 
http://www.m5studio.pl/

The Codec 8.2 build 8 is simply the best and ONLY codec pack you need for HD 
playback because it bundles the best software decoder ever, CoreAVC v1.7 (which 
is commercial software somehow bundled free).

CoreAVC w/ special new halaai splitter
CoreAAC
DivX
Xvid
AC3 filter

I still have issues now and then, but I'm in a LOT better shape these days with 
MPC-HC and the alternative WMP11 w/ The Codec Pack, a year ago I was pulling my 
hair out with the musical chairs these bastard codec gremlins had me play.

VLC is utter crap.


 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
 Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 11:32:07 -0700
 Subject: Re: [H] Radeon HD 3870 playing H264 videos in MKV containers in 
 hardware, woot

 I myself use Simple Media Player or Media Player Classic. I also use FFDSHOW
 Codex as well.

 Simple Media Player and Codex at http://smplayer.sf.net

 Media Player Classic can be found at
 http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=82303

 FFDShow can be found at http://sourceforge.net/projects/ffdshow/

 Good luck,

 Tim The Beave Lider
 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Winterlight
 Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 11:25 AM
 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
 Subject: Re: [H] Radeon HD 3870 playing H264 videos in MKV containers in
 hardware, woot

 I decided to give this a try with the same video. VLC does choke,
 although I am only using less then 20 percent CPU when it chokes.

 How did you get PowerDVD 8 to play the mkv file? It won't play if for
 me. I have the same codecs installed, and I have plenty of hardware
 muscle to do this. PowerDVD ignores the file.




 At 06:49 AM 5/24/2008, you wrote:
Just a little success story here, I sourced a cheap Dell for a client
(seriously good deal IMO, £291 for a Vostro 400 w/ 2.4Ghz Allendale,
3GB of ram, Terabyte of disk, wireless, Vista Home Premium, set of
speakers with a sub, a wireless router, a surge protected plugboard.)
and dropped a 3870 into it, as it's going to be used in a sort of
media center'ish sort of way plugged into a 32 high def TV

Installed the CCCP codec pack (unchecking use ffmpeg for x264),
installed PowerDVD 8, turned on hardware acceleration within
PowerDVD... fired up a 7GB/hr h264 video (It's the Top Gear Polar
Special in 1080P), which historically completely slaughters machines,
VLC on the 4Ghz Wolfdale sits at 67% cpu utilisation with it (which
means a 2.4Ghz chip with 1/3rd the cache has no chance in hell of
playing it smoothly)

on the 2.4Ghz Allendale...

13% cpu utilization

THIRTEEN PERCENT, good grief, that's probably just the storm of
interrupts from shuffling the data over the network and to the GPU, wow.

the ease at which this was accomplished is making a Sempron or low end
A64 X2 on a 780G (which has the same video decoder core of course)
really really tempting for a media center box to replace the
makeshift E6600/i680/7800GT box I've got performing those duties now
(with CoreAVC on decoding duty, which is much faster for h264 decode
than VLC just for the record.)


I'm mainly amazed at how easy it was to get it to work :)

So, yeah, grvy :)

-JB





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Re: [H] Radeon HD 3870 playing H264 videos in MKV containers in hardware, woot

2008-06-15 Thread Alex
install the k-lite codec pack, has everything you need to play everything
including media player classic.

http://www.free-codecs.com/download/K_lite_codec_pack.htm

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Winterlight
Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 11:25 AM
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] Radeon HD 3870 playing H264 videos in MKV containers in
hardware, woot

I decided to give this a try with the same video. VLC does choke, 
although I am only using less then 20 percent CPU when it chokes.

How did you get PowerDVD 8 to play the mkv file? It won't play if for 
me. I have the same codecs installed, and I have plenty of hardware 
muscle to do this. PowerDVD ignores  the file.




At 06:49 AM 5/24/2008, you wrote:
Just a little success story here, I sourced a cheap Dell for a client
(seriously good deal IMO, £291 for a Vostro 400 w/ 2.4Ghz Allendale,
3GB of ram, Terabyte of disk, wireless, Vista Home Premium, set of
speakers with a sub, a wireless router, a surge protected plugboard.)
and dropped a 3870 into it, as it's going to be used in a sort of
media center'ish sort of way plugged into a 32 high def TV

Installed the CCCP codec pack (unchecking use ffmpeg for x264),
installed PowerDVD 8, turned on hardware acceleration within
PowerDVD... fired up a 7GB/hr h264 video (It's the Top Gear Polar
Special in 1080P), which historically completely slaughters machines,
VLC on the 4Ghz Wolfdale sits at 67% cpu utilisation with it (which
means a 2.4Ghz chip with 1/3rd the cache has no chance in hell of
playing it smoothly)

on the 2.4Ghz Allendale...

13% cpu utilization

THIRTEEN PERCENT, good grief, that's probably just the storm of
interrupts from shuffling the data over the network and to the GPU, wow.

the ease at which this was accomplished is making a Sempron or low end
A64 X2 on a 780G (which has the same video decoder core of course)
really really tempting for a media center box to replace the
makeshift E6600/i680/7800GT box I've got performing those duties now
(with CoreAVC on decoding duty, which is much faster for h264 decode
than VLC just for the record.)


I'm mainly amazed at how easy it was to get it to work :)

So, yeah, grvy :)

-JB




Re: [H] Radeon HD 3870 playing H264 videos in MKV containers in hardware, woot

2008-06-15 Thread James Boswell
Sorry Hayes but I've got to hugely disagree here, on the basis of a  
Radeon's UVD beating the snot out of CoreAVC :) using apps like MPC- 
HCE that bypass the frameworks that enable that seems hugely counter- 
productive to me.



-JB
On 15 Jun 2008, at 20:12, Hayes Elkins wrote:


I suggest Media Player Classic - Home Cinema edition. It is a  
project that supports hardware DXVA internally with no external  
filters/codecs required at all. A new build is released every few  
days because it is constantly tweaked. You can switch outputs from  
overley, VMR7/9 (and renderless) plus a hack to use Vista's EVR in  
XP. http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=123537


For the rare HD media you encounter out in the wild that wont play  
nice with MPC-HC, I fall back on WMP 11 and use the codecs in The  
Codec http://www.m5studio.pl/


The Codec 8.2 build 8 is simply the best and ONLY codec pack you  
need for HD playback because it bundles the best software decoder  
ever, CoreAVC v1.7 (which is commercial software somehow bundled  
free).


CoreAVC w/ special new halaai splitter
CoreAAC
DivX
Xvid
AC3 filter

I still have issues now and then, but I'm in a LOT better shape  
these days with MPC-HC and the alternative WMP11 w/ The Codec Pack,  
a year ago I was pulling my hair out with the musical chairs these  
bastard codec gremlins had me play.


VLC is utter crap.



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 11:32:07 -0700
Subject: Re: [H] Radeon HD 3870 playing H264 videos in MKV  
containers in hardware, woot


I myself use Simple Media Player or Media Player Classic. I also  
use FFDSHOW

Codex as well.

Simple Media Player and Codex at http://smplayer.sf.net

Media Player Classic can be found at
http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=82303

FFDShow can be found at http://sourceforge.net/projects/ffdshow/

Good luck,

Tim The Beave Lider
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Winterlight
Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 11:25 AM
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] Radeon HD 3870 playing H264 videos in MKV  
containers in

hardware, woot

I decided to give this a try with the same video. VLC does choke,
although I am only using less then 20 percent CPU when it chokes.

How did you get PowerDVD 8 to play the mkv file? It won't play if for
me. I have the same codecs installed, and I have plenty of hardware
muscle to do this. PowerDVD ignores the file.




At 06:49 AM 5/24/2008, you wrote:
Just a little success story here, I sourced a cheap Dell for a  
client

(seriously good deal IMO, £291 for a Vostro 400 w/ 2.4Ghz Allendale,
3GB of ram, Terabyte of disk, wireless, Vista Home Premium, set of
speakers with a sub, a wireless router, a surge protected  
plugboard.)

and dropped a 3870 into it, as it's going to be used in a sort of
media center'ish sort of way plugged into a 32 high def TV

Installed the CCCP codec pack (unchecking use ffmpeg for x264),
installed PowerDVD 8, turned on hardware acceleration within
PowerDVD... fired up a 7GB/hr h264 video (It's the Top Gear Polar
Special in 1080P), which historically completely slaughters  
machines,

VLC on the 4Ghz Wolfdale sits at 67% cpu utilisation with it (which
means a 2.4Ghz chip with 1/3rd the cache has no chance in hell of
playing it smoothly)

on the 2.4Ghz Allendale...

13% cpu utilization

THIRTEEN PERCENT, good grief, that's probably just the storm of
interrupts from shuffling the data over the network and to the  
GPU, wow.


the ease at which this was accomplished is making a Sempron or low  
end

A64 X2 on a 780G (which has the same video decoder core of course)
really really tempting for a media center box to replace the
makeshift E6600/i680/7800GT box I've got performing those duties now
(with CoreAVC on decoding duty, which is much faster for h264 decode
than VLC just for the record.)


I'm mainly amazed at how easy it was to get it to work :)

So, yeah, grvy :)

-JB







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Re: [H] Radeon HD 3870 playing H264 videos in MKV containers in hardware, woot

2008-06-15 Thread Winterlight

At 12:20 PM 6/15/2008, you wrote:

It's the PowerDVD8 DirectShow hardware accelerated codec, not the
PowerDVD app itself


OH, OK... Thanks!




The process is thus

install ffdshow (for audio formats) being sure to flick off H264 in
the install options or in the configuration panel afterwards
install PowerDVD 8, go into Powerdvd's settings and turn on hardware
acceleration of video
play mkv in windows media player (you may have to associate .mkv's
with WMP first)


On 15 Jun 2008, at 20:09, Winterlight wrote:

Are you sure? I am confused about  all this but everything I have
read says only PowerDVD 7 with the HD upgrade, and PowerDVD 8 will
do this properly.




Re: [H] Radeon HD 3870 playing H264 videos in MKV containersin hardware, woot

2008-06-15 Thread tmservo
I've tried it, but if your someone who uses vista media center, etc just grab 
k-lite.  

Well, that and anydvdhd, eac3to to archive, and:

Mytv (mytv.senseitweb.net)

Mymovies (the mytv guys are quickly working on a true mcml app that is flat out 
awesome)

MyNetflix - just so you can play netflix watch it now through your tv. 

:) 

And a few other choice apps.  :)
Sent via BlackBerry 

-Original Message-
From: Hayes Elkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 15:12:05 
To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] Radeon HD 3870 playing H264 videos in MKV containers
in  hardware, woot



I suggest Media Player Classic - Home Cinema edition. It is a project that 
supports hardware DXVA internally with no external filters/codecs required at 
all. A new build is released every few days because it is constantly tweaked. 
You can switch outputs from overley, VMR7/9 (and renderless) plus a hack to use 
Vista's EVR in XP. http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=123537

For the rare HD media you encounter out in the wild that wont play nice with 
MPC-HC, I fall back on WMP 11 and use the codecs in The Codec 
http://www.m5studio.pl/

The Codec 8.2 build 8 is simply the best and ONLY codec pack you need for HD 
playback because it bundles the best software decoder ever, CoreAVC v1.7 (which 
is commercial software somehow bundled free).

CoreAVC w/ special new halaai splitter
CoreAAC
DivX
Xvid
AC3 filter

I still have issues now and then, but I'm in a LOT better shape these days with 
MPC-HC and the alternative WMP11 w/ The Codec Pack, a year ago I was pulling my 
hair out with the musical chairs these bastard codec gremlins had me play.

VLC is utter crap.


 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
 Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 11:32:07 -0700
 Subject: Re: [H] Radeon HD 3870 playing H264 videos in MKV containers in 
 hardware, woot

 I myself use Simple Media Player or Media Player Classic. I also use FFDSHOW
 Codex as well.

 Simple Media Player and Codex at http://smplayer.sf.net

 Media Player Classic can be found at
 http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=82303

 FFDShow can be found at http://sourceforge.net/projects/ffdshow/

 Good luck,

 Tim The Beave Lider
 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Winterlight
 Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 11:25 AM
 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
 Subject: Re: [H] Radeon HD 3870 playing H264 videos in MKV containers in
 hardware, woot

 I decided to give this a try with the same video. VLC does choke,
 although I am only using less then 20 percent CPU when it chokes.

 How did you get PowerDVD 8 to play the mkv file? It won't play if for
 me. I have the same codecs installed, and I have plenty of hardware
 muscle to do this. PowerDVD ignores the file.




 At 06:49 AM 5/24/2008, you wrote:
Just a little success story here, I sourced a cheap Dell for a client
(seriously good deal IMO, £291 for a Vostro 400 w/ 2.4Ghz Allendale,
3GB of ram, Terabyte of disk, wireless, Vista Home Premium, set of
speakers with a sub, a wireless router, a surge protected plugboard.)
and dropped a 3870 into it, as it's going to be used in a sort of
media center'ish sort of way plugged into a 32 high def TV

Installed the CCCP codec pack (unchecking use ffmpeg for x264),
installed PowerDVD 8, turned on hardware acceleration within
PowerDVD... fired up a 7GB/hr h264 video (It's the Top Gear Polar
Special in 1080P), which historically completely slaughters machines,
VLC on the 4Ghz Wolfdale sits at 67% cpu utilisation with it (which
means a 2.4Ghz chip with 1/3rd the cache has no chance in hell of
playing it smoothly)

on the 2.4Ghz Allendale...

13% cpu utilization

THIRTEEN PERCENT, good grief, that's probably just the storm of
interrupts from shuffling the data over the network and to the GPU, wow.

the ease at which this was accomplished is making a Sempron or low end
A64 X2 on a 780G (which has the same video decoder core of course)
really really tempting for a media center box to replace the
makeshift E6600/i680/7800GT box I've got performing those duties now
(with CoreAVC on decoding duty, which is much faster for h264 decode
than VLC just for the record.)


I'm mainly amazed at how easy it was to get it to work :)

So, yeah, grvy :)

-JB





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Re: [H] Radeon HD 3870 playing H264 videos in MKV containers in hardware, woot

2008-06-15 Thread Hayes Elkins

Are you referring to the ATI post processing features? Because MPC-HC fully 
supports ATI hardware VC-1 and h264 decoding natively. For properly encoded 
1080p media, the less post processing the better, IMO. Deinterlacing, noise 
reduction, and other UVD perks need not apply.

 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
 Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 20:23:17 +0100
 Subject: Re: [H] Radeon HD 3870 playing H264 videos in MKV containers in 
 hardware, woot

 Sorry Hayes but I've got to hugely disagree here, on the basis of a
 Radeon's UVD beating the snot out of CoreAVC :) using apps like MPC-
 HCE that bypass the frameworks that enable that seems hugely counter-
 productive to me.


 -JB
 On 15 Jun 2008, at 20:12, Hayes Elkins wrote:

 I suggest Media Player Classic - Home Cinema edition. It is a
 project that supports hardware DXVA internally with no external
 filters/codecs required at all. A new build is released every few
 days because it is constantly tweaked. You can switch outputs from
 overley, VMR7/9 (and renderless) plus a hack to use Vista's EVR in
 XP. http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=123537

 For the rare HD media you encounter out in the wild that wont play
 nice with MPC-HC, I fall back on WMP 11 and use the codecs in The
 Codec http://www.m5studio.pl/

 The Codec 8.2 build 8 is simply the best and ONLY codec pack you
 need for HD playback because it bundles the best software decoder
 ever, CoreAVC v1.7 (which is commercial software somehow bundled
 free).

 CoreAVC w/ special new halaai splitter
 CoreAAC
 DivX
 Xvid
 AC3 filter

 I still have issues now and then, but I'm in a LOT better shape
 these days with MPC-HC and the alternative WMP11 w/ The Codec Pack,
 a year ago I was pulling my hair out with the musical chairs these
 bastard codec gremlins had me play.

 VLC is utter crap.


 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
 Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 11:32:07 -0700
 Subject: Re: [H] Radeon HD 3870 playing H264 videos in MKV
 containers in hardware, woot

 I myself use Simple Media Player or Media Player Classic. I also
 use FFDSHOW
 Codex as well.

 Simple Media Player and Codex at http://smplayer.sf.net

 Media Player Classic can be found at
 http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=82303

 FFDShow can be found at http://sourceforge.net/projects/ffdshow/

 Good luck,

 Tim The Beave Lider
 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Winterlight
 Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 11:25 AM
 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
 Subject: Re: [H] Radeon HD 3870 playing H264 videos in MKV
 containers in
 hardware, woot

 I decided to give this a try with the same video. VLC does choke,
 although I am only using less then 20 percent CPU when it chokes.

 How did you get PowerDVD 8 to play the mkv file? It won't play if for
 me. I have the same codecs installed, and I have plenty of hardware
 muscle to do this. PowerDVD ignores the file.




 At 06:49 AM 5/24/2008, you wrote:
 Just a little success story here, I sourced a cheap Dell for a
 client
 (seriously good deal IMO, £291 for a Vostro 400 w/ 2.4Ghz Allendale,
 3GB of ram, Terabyte of disk, wireless, Vista Home Premium, set of
 speakers with a sub, a wireless router, a surge protected
 plugboard.)
 and dropped a 3870 into it, as it's going to be used in a sort of
 media center'ish sort of way plugged into a 32 high def TV

 Installed the CCCP codec pack (unchecking use ffmpeg for x264),
 installed PowerDVD 8, turned on hardware acceleration within
 PowerDVD... fired up a 7GB/hr h264 video (It's the Top Gear Polar
 Special in 1080P), which historically completely slaughters
 machines,
 VLC on the 4Ghz Wolfdale sits at 67% cpu utilisation with it (which
 means a 2.4Ghz chip with 1/3rd the cache has no chance in hell of
 playing it smoothly)

 on the 2.4Ghz Allendale...

 13% cpu utilization

 THIRTEEN PERCENT, good grief, that's probably just the storm of
 interrupts from shuffling the data over the network and to the
 GPU, wow.

 the ease at which this was accomplished is making a Sempron or low
 end
 A64 X2 on a 780G (which has the same video decoder core of course)
 really really tempting for a media center box to replace the
 makeshift E6600/i680/7800GT box I've got performing those duties now
 (with CoreAVC on decoding duty, which is much faster for h264 decode
 than VLC just for the record.)


 I'm mainly amazed at how easy it was to get it to work :)

 So, yeah, grvy :)

 -JB





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Re: [H] Radeon HD 3870 playing H264 videos in MKV containersin hardware, woot

2008-06-15 Thread Brian Weeden
Side question here guys - what's the process you all use to get x264 HD
video from Blu Ray?  I want to add my Blu Ray movies to my HTPC RAID array
as single-file MKVs.  And of course I would much rather have them enocded
with MPEG-4 (preferably x264) as they will take up a lot less disk space.
All the guides I've seen for taking it from Blu-Ray .m2ts files to a x264
MKV seems to be overly complicated, involving like 6 different apps and
re-encoding of the audio as well as the video (not sure why we can't just
use the audio the way it is).

I just put an AMD 780G mobo in my HTPC and I want to take full advantage of
the sweet onboard video as best I can.


Brian

On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 3:25 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I've tried it, but if your someone who uses vista media center, etc just
 grab k-lite.

 Well, that and anydvdhd, eac3to to archive, and:

 Mytv (mytv.senseitweb.net)

 Mymovies (the mytv guys are quickly working on a true mcml app that is flat
 out awesome)

 MyNetflix - just so you can play netflix watch it now through your tv.

 :)

 And a few other choice apps.  :)
 Sent via BlackBerry

 -Original Message-
 From: Hayes Elkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 15:12:05
 To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com
 Subject: Re: [H] Radeon HD 3870 playing H264 videos in MKV containers
in  hardware, woot



 I suggest Media Player Classic - Home Cinema edition. It is a project that
 supports hardware DXVA internally with no external filters/codecs required
 at all. A new build is released every few days because it is constantly
 tweaked. You can switch outputs from overley, VMR7/9 (and renderless) plus a
 hack to use Vista's EVR in XP.
 http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=123537

 For the rare HD media you encounter out in the wild that wont play nice
 with MPC-HC, I fall back on WMP 11 and use the codecs in The Codec
 http://www.m5studio.pl/

 The Codec 8.2 build 8 is simply the best and ONLY codec pack you need for
 HD playback because it bundles the best software decoder ever, CoreAVC v1.7
 (which is commercial software somehow bundled free).

 CoreAVC w/ special new halaai splitter
 CoreAAC
 DivX
 Xvid
 AC3 filter

 I still have issues now and then, but I'm in a LOT better shape these days
 with MPC-HC and the alternative WMP11 w/ The Codec Pack, a year ago I was
 pulling my hair out with the musical chairs these bastard codec gremlins had
 me play.

 VLC is utter crap.


  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
  Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 11:32:07 -0700
  Subject: Re: [H] Radeon HD 3870 playing H264 videos in MKV containers in
 hardware, woot
 
  I myself use Simple Media Player or Media Player Classic. I also use
 FFDSHOW
  Codex as well.
 
  Simple Media Player and Codex at http://smplayer.sf.net
 
  Media Player Classic can be found at
  http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=82303
 
  FFDShow can be found at http://sourceforge.net/projects/ffdshow/
 
  Good luck,
 
  Tim The Beave Lider
  E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Winterlight
  Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 11:25 AM
  To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
  Subject: Re: [H] Radeon HD 3870 playing H264 videos in MKV containers in
  hardware, woot
 
  I decided to give this a try with the same video. VLC does choke,
  although I am only using less then 20 percent CPU when it chokes.
 
  How did you get PowerDVD 8 to play the mkv file? It won't play if for
  me. I have the same codecs installed, and I have plenty of hardware
  muscle to do this. PowerDVD ignores the file.
 
 
 
 
  At 06:49 AM 5/24/2008, you wrote:
 Just a little success story here, I sourced a cheap Dell for a client
 (seriously good deal IMO, £291 for a Vostro 400 w/ 2.4Ghz Allendale,
 3GB of ram, Terabyte of disk, wireless, Vista Home Premium, set of
 speakers with a sub, a wireless router, a surge protected plugboard.)
 and dropped a 3870 into it, as it's going to be used in a sort of
 media center'ish sort of way plugged into a 32 high def TV
 
 Installed the CCCP codec pack (unchecking use ffmpeg for x264),
 installed PowerDVD 8, turned on hardware acceleration within
 PowerDVD... fired up a 7GB/hr h264 video (It's the Top Gear Polar
 Special in 1080P), which historically completely slaughters machines,
 VLC on the 4Ghz Wolfdale sits at 67% cpu utilisation with it (which
 means a 2.4Ghz chip with 1/3rd the cache has no chance in hell of
 playing it smoothly)
 
 on the 2.4Ghz Allendale...
 
 13% cpu utilization
 
 THIRTEEN PERCENT, good grief, that's probably just the storm of
 interrupts from shuffling the data over the network and to the GPU, wow.
 
 the ease at which this was accomplished is making a Sempron or low end
 A64 X2 on a 780G (which has the same video decoder core of course)
 really really tempting for a media center box to replace the
 makeshift E6600/i680/7800GT box I've got 

Re: [H] Radeon HD 3870 playing H264 videos in MKV containersinhardware, woot

2008-06-15 Thread Brian Weeden
Does it make a difference if original video is VC-1 or H264?  What about
audio format (TrueHD, DTS, etc)?


Brian

On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 3:49 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Anydvd to get files

 Eac3to and do this

 Eac3to.exe 000xx.m2ts whatever.mkv

 This will generate a master video file (whatever.mkv) and audio streams.
  If you wish. You can recompress video your call

 Then using megui, mux whatever.mkv with whatever.ac3 etc

 Done.  Store however you wish.   Will now play via anything.


 Sent via BlackBerry

 -Original Message-
 From: Brian Weeden [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 15:31:36
 To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [H] Radeon HD 3870 playing H264 videos in MKV containersin
hardware, woot


 Side question here guys - what's the process you all use to get x264 HD
 video from Blu Ray?  I want to add my Blu Ray movies to my HTPC RAID array
 as single-file MKVs.  And of course I would much rather have them enocded
 with MPEG-4 (preferably x264) as they will take up a lot less disk space.
 All the guides I've seen for taking it from Blu-Ray .m2ts files to a x264
 MKV seems to be overly complicated, involving like 6 different apps and
 re-encoding of the audio as well as the video (not sure why we can't just
 use the audio the way it is).

 I just put an AMD 780G mobo in my HTPC and I want to take full advantage of
 the sweet onboard video as best I can.

 
 Brian

 On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 3:25 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I've tried it, but if your someone who uses vista media center, etc just
  grab k-lite.
 
  Well, that and anydvdhd, eac3to to archive, and:
 
  Mytv (mytv.senseitweb.net)
 
  Mymovies (the mytv guys are quickly working on a true mcml app that is
 flat
  out awesome)
 
  MyNetflix - just so you can play netflix watch it now through your tv.
 
  :)
 
  And a few other choice apps.  :)
  Sent via BlackBerry
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Hayes Elkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 15:12:05
  To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com
  Subject: Re: [H] Radeon HD 3870 playing H264 videos in MKV containers
 in  hardware, woot
 
 
 
  I suggest Media Player Classic - Home Cinema edition. It is a project
 that
  supports hardware DXVA internally with no external filters/codecs
 required
  at all. A new build is released every few days because it is constantly
  tweaked. You can switch outputs from overley, VMR7/9 (and renderless)
 plus a
  hack to use Vista's EVR in XP.
  http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=123537
 
  For the rare HD media you encounter out in the wild that wont play nice
  with MPC-HC, I fall back on WMP 11 and use the codecs in The Codec
  http://www.m5studio.pl/
 
  The Codec 8.2 build 8 is simply the best and ONLY codec pack you need
 for
  HD playback because it bundles the best software decoder ever, CoreAVC
 v1.7
  (which is commercial software somehow bundled free).
 
  CoreAVC w/ special new halaai splitter
  CoreAAC
  DivX
  Xvid
  AC3 filter
 
  I still have issues now and then, but I'm in a LOT better shape these
 days
  with MPC-HC and the alternative WMP11 w/ The Codec Pack, a year ago I was
  pulling my hair out with the musical chairs these bastard codec gremlins
 had
  me play.
 
  VLC is utter crap.
 
 
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
   Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 11:32:07 -0700
   Subject: Re: [H] Radeon HD 3870 playing H264 videos in MKV containers
 in
  hardware, woot
  
   I myself use Simple Media Player or Media Player Classic. I also use
  FFDSHOW
   Codex as well.
  
   Simple Media Player and Codex at http://smplayer.sf.net
  
   Media Player Classic can be found at
   http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=82303
  
   FFDShow can be found at http://sourceforge.net/projects/ffdshow/
  
   Good luck,
  
   Tim The Beave Lider
   E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Winterlight
   Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 11:25 AM
   To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
   Subject: Re: [H] Radeon HD 3870 playing H264 videos in MKV containers
 in
   hardware, woot
  
   I decided to give this a try with the same video. VLC does choke,
   although I am only using less then 20 percent CPU when it chokes.
  
   How did you get PowerDVD 8 to play the mkv file? It won't play if for
   me. I have the same codecs installed, and I have plenty of hardware
   muscle to do this. PowerDVD ignores the file.
  
  
  
  
   At 06:49 AM 5/24/2008, you wrote:
  Just a little success story here, I sourced a cheap Dell for a client
  (seriously good deal IMO, £291 for a Vostro 400 w/ 2.4Ghz Allendale,
  3GB of ram, Terabyte of disk, wireless, Vista Home Premium, set of
  speakers with a sub, a wireless router, a surge protected plugboard.)
  and dropped a 3870 into it, as it's going to be used in a sort of
  media center'ish sort of 

Re: [H] Radeon HD 3870 playing H264 videos in MKVcontainersinhardware, woot

2008-06-15 Thread tmservo
No difference at all. 
Sent via BlackBerry 

-Original Message-
From: Brian Weeden [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 16:03:38 
To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] Radeon HD 3870 playing H264 videos in MKV
containersinhardware, woot


Does it make a difference if original video is VC-1 or H264?  What about
audio format (TrueHD, DTS, etc)?


Brian

On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 3:49 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Anydvd to get files

 Eac3to and do this

 Eac3to.exe 000xx.m2ts whatever.mkv

 This will generate a master video file (whatever.mkv) and audio streams.
  If you wish. You can recompress video your call

 Then using megui, mux whatever.mkv with whatever.ac3 etc

 Done.  Store however you wish.   Will now play via anything.


 Sent via BlackBerry

 -Original Message-
 From: Brian Weeden [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 15:31:36
 To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [H] Radeon HD 3870 playing H264 videos in MKV containersin
hardware, woot


 Side question here guys - what's the process you all use to get x264 HD
 video from Blu Ray?  I want to add my Blu Ray movies to my HTPC RAID array
 as single-file MKVs.  And of course I would much rather have them enocded
 with MPEG-4 (preferably x264) as they will take up a lot less disk space.
 All the guides I've seen for taking it from Blu-Ray .m2ts files to a x264
 MKV seems to be overly complicated, involving like 6 different apps and
 re-encoding of the audio as well as the video (not sure why we can't just
 use the audio the way it is).

 I just put an AMD 780G mobo in my HTPC and I want to take full advantage of
 the sweet onboard video as best I can.

 
 Brian

 On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 3:25 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I've tried it, but if your someone who uses vista media center, etc just
  grab k-lite.
 
  Well, that and anydvdhd, eac3to to archive, and:
 
  Mytv (mytv.senseitweb.net)
 
  Mymovies (the mytv guys are quickly working on a true mcml app that is
 flat
  out awesome)
 
  MyNetflix - just so you can play netflix watch it now through your tv.
 
  :)
 
  And a few other choice apps.  :)
  Sent via BlackBerry
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Hayes Elkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 15:12:05
  To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com
  Subject: Re: [H] Radeon HD 3870 playing H264 videos in MKV containers
 in  hardware, woot
 
 
 
  I suggest Media Player Classic - Home Cinema edition. It is a project
 that
  supports hardware DXVA internally with no external filters/codecs
 required
  at all. A new build is released every few days because it is constantly
  tweaked. You can switch outputs from overley, VMR7/9 (and renderless)
 plus a
  hack to use Vista's EVR in XP.
  http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=123537
 
  For the rare HD media you encounter out in the wild that wont play nice
  with MPC-HC, I fall back on WMP 11 and use the codecs in The Codec
  http://www.m5studio.pl/
 
  The Codec 8.2 build 8 is simply the best and ONLY codec pack you need
 for
  HD playback because it bundles the best software decoder ever, CoreAVC
 v1.7
  (which is commercial software somehow bundled free).
 
  CoreAVC w/ special new halaai splitter
  CoreAAC
  DivX
  Xvid
  AC3 filter
 
  I still have issues now and then, but I'm in a LOT better shape these
 days
  with MPC-HC and the alternative WMP11 w/ The Codec Pack, a year ago I was
  pulling my hair out with the musical chairs these bastard codec gremlins
 had
  me play.
 
  VLC is utter crap.
 
 
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
   Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 11:32:07 -0700
   Subject: Re: [H] Radeon HD 3870 playing H264 videos in MKV containers
 in
  hardware, woot
  
   I myself use Simple Media Player or Media Player Classic. I also use
  FFDSHOW
   Codex as well.
  
   Simple Media Player and Codex at http://smplayer.sf.net
  
   Media Player Classic can be found at
   http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=82303
  
   FFDShow can be found at http://sourceforge.net/projects/ffdshow/
  
   Good luck,
  
   Tim The Beave Lider
   E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Winterlight
   Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 11:25 AM
   To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
   Subject: Re: [H] Radeon HD 3870 playing H264 videos in MKV containers
 in
   hardware, woot
  
   I decided to give this a try with the same video. VLC does choke,
   although I am only using less then 20 percent CPU when it chokes.
  
   How did you get PowerDVD 8 to play the mkv file? It won't play if for
   me. I have the same codecs installed, and I have plenty of hardware
   muscle to do this. PowerDVD ignores the file.
  
  
  
  
   At 06:49 AM 5/24/2008, you wrote:
  Just a little success story here, I sourced a cheap Dell for a client
  (seriously good deal IMO, £291 for a 

Re: [H] Radeon HD 3870 playing H264 videos in MKV containers in hardware, woot

2008-06-15 Thread John Steinbruner
I must be really out of the loop.  I watch mostly everything with VLC  
or GomPlayer, they both don't need codecs, and do fine for my movies  
and videos.  :)





On Jun 15, 2008, at 12:12 PM, Hayes Elkins wrote:



I suggest Media Player Classic - Home Cinema edition. It is a  
project that supports hardware DXVA internally with no external  
filters/codecs required at all. A new build is released every few  
days because it is constantly tweaked. You can switch outputs from  
overley, VMR7/9 (and renderless) plus a hack to use Vista's EVR in  
XP. http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=123537


For the rare HD media you encounter out in the wild that wont play  
nice with MPC-HC, I fall back on WMP 11 and use the codecs in The  
Codec http://www.m5studio.pl/


The Codec 8.2 build 8 is simply the best and ONLY codec pack you  
need for HD playback because it bundles the best software decoder  
ever, CoreAVC v1.7 (which is commercial software somehow bundled  
free).


CoreAVC w/ special new halaai splitter
CoreAAC
DivX
Xvid
AC3 filter

I still have issues now and then, but I'm in a LOT better shape  
these days with MPC-HC and the alternative WMP11 w/ The Codec Pack,  
a year ago I was pulling my hair out with the musical chairs these  
bastard codec gremlins had me play.


VLC is utter crap.





Re: [H] Radeon HD 3870 playing H264 videos in MKV containers in hardware, woot

2008-06-15 Thread Brian Weeden
I use GOM too but the issue with BluRay/HD-DVD is the encryption.  Only
PowerDVD and one other software player legally have the decryption keys to
playback both of those formats on a PC.  So if you have unencrypted video go
ahead and use GOM.


Brian

On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 4:51 PM, John Steinbruner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 I must be really out of the loop.  I watch mostly everything with VLC or
 GomPlayer, they both don't need codecs, and do fine for my movies and
 videos.  :)





 On Jun 15, 2008, at 12:12 PM, Hayes Elkins wrote:


 I suggest Media Player Classic - Home Cinema edition. It is a project that
 supports hardware DXVA internally with no external filters/codecs required
 at all. A new build is released every few days because it is constantly
 tweaked. You can switch outputs from overley, VMR7/9 (and renderless) plus a
 hack to use Vista's EVR in XP.
 http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=123537

 For the rare HD media you encounter out in the wild that wont play nice
 with MPC-HC, I fall back on WMP 11 and use the codecs in The Codec
 http://www.m5studio.pl/

 The Codec 8.2 build 8 is simply the best and ONLY codec pack you need
 for HD playback because it bundles the best software decoder ever, CoreAVC
 v1.7 (which is commercial software somehow bundled free).

 CoreAVC w/ special new halaai splitter
 CoreAAC
 DivX
 Xvid
 AC3 filter

 I still have issues now and then, but I'm in a LOT better shape these days
 with MPC-HC and the alternative WMP11 w/ The Codec Pack, a year ago I was
 pulling my hair out with the musical chairs these bastard codec gremlins had
 me play.

 VLC is utter crap.





[H] ASUS RAMPAGE FORMULA LGA 775 Intel X48 ATX Intel Motherboard

2008-06-15 Thread Winterlight
I am not an over clocker, or a gamer so it seems odd that I am 
thinking about buying this motherboard

ASUS RAMPAGE FORMULA LGA 775 Intel X48 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131284nm_mc=OTC-Frooglecm_mmc=OTC-Froogle-_-Motherboards+-+Intel-_-ASUS-_-13131284

to pair with a Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550 Yorkfield 2.83GHz LGA 775 95W 
Quad-Core Processor Model BX80569Q9550 - Retail


but I like it's feature rich design, new power saving features, the 
new X48 chipset and most importantly it supports my Corsair XPS2 DDR2 
800MHz RAM.


Any comments, advice? thanks



[H] HD PC recording

2008-06-15 Thread Winterlight
Pressed between the mountains and the Pacific, and under assault from 
marine band interference,I  am in a area that doesn't really have any 
decent over the air TV. Before cable came along in the sixties, we 
got 2 to 10 channels with large rooftop anttena and only one local 
channel with rabbit ears.


So HD over the air has never been an option for me. I have COX cable 
with an HD box. There is no QCAM support nor is their digital over 
cable without a convertor of some kind. I can record anything playing 
on the cable box with S-VIDEO using Line IN to a PC capture card for 
a very pristine result ... but it is not HD. This is the best way to 
record anything as I have yet to find a PC analog TV turner that does 
a decent job.


There are lots of new stand alone HD TV recording boxes on the market 
now, that allow you to record and archive HD broadcasts from your HD 
cable box, ... anybody have a recommendation ?but is there 
anything around that will do it from your PC... or is it even worth 
the effort to do it that way anymore? It is best just to get a HD-DVR 
and transfer the files to your PC for archiving.


COX tells me that they will continue to support Analog for at least 3 
years after the switch. However, if you buy a Hauppauge card with a 
digital tuner on it now, what does this mean exactly. I can't watch 
Digital cable  now without a COX digital cable box... so will the 
Hauppauge digital tuner be able to replace the COX digital box once 
the switch takes place? Or is that just for over the air broadcasts?


BTW Opera 9.5 is out and it has some fantastic improvements



Re: [H] Radeon HD 3870 playing H264 videos in MKV containers in hardware, woot

2008-06-15 Thread James Boswell

ah, I wasn't aware that MPC-HC hooked into the UVD unit on the Radeon

What I said does stand with relation to CoreAVC though :)


-JB

On 15 Jun 2008, at 20:30, Hayes Elkins wrote:


Are you referring to the ATI post processing features? Because MPC- 
HC fully supports ATI hardware VC-1 and h264 decoding natively. For  
properly encoded 1080p media, the less post processing the better,  
IMO. Deinterlacing, noise reduction, and other UVD perks need not  
apply.



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 20:23:17 +0100
Subject: Re: [H] Radeon HD 3870 playing H264 videos in MKV  
containers in hardware, woot


Sorry Hayes but I've got to hugely disagree here, on the basis of a
Radeon's UVD beating the snot out of CoreAVC :) using apps like MPC-
HCE that bypass the frameworks that enable that seems hugely counter-
productive to me.


-JB
On 15 Jun 2008, at 20:12, Hayes Elkins wrote:


I suggest Media Player Classic - Home Cinema edition. It is a
project that supports hardware DXVA internally with no external
filters/codecs required at all. A new build is released every few
days because it is constantly tweaked. You can switch outputs from
overley, VMR7/9 (and renderless) plus a hack to use Vista's EVR in
XP. http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=123537

For the rare HD media you encounter out in the wild that wont play
nice with MPC-HC, I fall back on WMP 11 and use the codecs in The
Codec http://www.m5studio.pl/

The Codec 8.2 build 8 is simply the best and ONLY codec pack you
need for HD playback because it bundles the best software decoder
ever, CoreAVC v1.7 (which is commercial software somehow bundled
free).

CoreAVC w/ special new halaai splitter
CoreAAC
DivX
Xvid
AC3 filter

I still have issues now and then, but I'm in a LOT better shape
these days with MPC-HC and the alternative WMP11 w/ The Codec Pack,
a year ago I was pulling my hair out with the musical chairs these
bastard codec gremlins had me play.

VLC is utter crap.



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 11:32:07 -0700
Subject: Re: [H] Radeon HD 3870 playing H264 videos in MKV
containers in hardware, woot

I myself use Simple Media Player or Media Player Classic. I also
use FFDSHOW
Codex as well.

Simple Media Player and Codex at http://smplayer.sf.net

Media Player Classic can be found at
http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=82303

FFDShow can be found at http://sourceforge.net/projects/ffdshow/

Good luck,

Tim The Beave Lider
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of  
Winterlight

Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 11:25 AM
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] Radeon HD 3870 playing H264 videos in MKV
containers in
hardware, woot

I decided to give this a try with the same video. VLC does choke,
although I am only using less then 20 percent CPU when it chokes.

How did you get PowerDVD 8 to play the mkv file? It won't play if  
for

me. I have the same codecs installed, and I have plenty of hardware
muscle to do this. PowerDVD ignores the file.




At 06:49 AM 5/24/2008, you wrote:

Just a little success story here, I sourced a cheap Dell for a
client
(seriously good deal IMO, £291 for a Vostro 400 w/ 2.4Ghz  
Allendale,

3GB of ram, Terabyte of disk, wireless, Vista Home Premium, set of
speakers with a sub, a wireless router, a surge protected
plugboard.)
and dropped a 3870 into it, as it's going to be used in a sort of
media center'ish sort of way plugged into a 32 high def TV

Installed the CCCP codec pack (unchecking use ffmpeg for x264),
installed PowerDVD 8, turned on hardware acceleration within
PowerDVD... fired up a 7GB/hr h264 video (It's the Top Gear Polar
Special in 1080P), which historically completely slaughters
machines,
VLC on the 4Ghz Wolfdale sits at 67% cpu utilisation with it  
(which

means a 2.4Ghz chip with 1/3rd the cache has no chance in hell of
playing it smoothly)

on the 2.4Ghz Allendale...

13% cpu utilization

THIRTEEN PERCENT, good grief, that's probably just the storm of
interrupts from shuffling the data over the network and to the
GPU, wow.

the ease at which this was accomplished is making a Sempron or low
end
A64 X2 on a 780G (which has the same video decoder core of course)
really really tempting for a media center box to replace the
makeshift E6600/i680/7800GT box I've got performing those duties  
now
(with CoreAVC on decoding duty, which is much faster for h264  
decode

than VLC just for the record.)


I'm mainly amazed at how easy it was to get it to work :)

So, yeah, grvy :)

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Re: [H] ASUS RAMPAGE FORMULA LGA 775 Intel X48 ATX Intel Motherboard

2008-06-15 Thread James Boswell
TBH, I'd recommend you buy an Asus P5K-E/Wifi-AP (which I've built  
several machines around and they're all awesome) and leave it at that
a top of the line S775 board seems like a silly investment at this  
point when it'll be very obsolete in ~6 months as Nehalem launches


On 15 Jun 2008, at 22:00, Winterlight wrote:
I am not an over clocker, or a gamer so it seems odd that I am  
thinking about buying this motherboard

ASUS RAMPAGE FORMULA LGA 775 Intel X48 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131284nm_mc=OTC-Frooglecm_mmc=OTC-Froogle-_-Motherboards+-+Intel-_-ASUS-_-13131284

to pair with a Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550 Yorkfield 2.83GHz LGA 775 95W  
Quad-Core Processor Model BX80569Q9550 - Retail


but I like it's feature rich design, new power saving features, the  
new X48 chipset and most importantly it supports my Corsair XPS2  
DDR2 800MHz RAM.


Any comments, advice? thanks





Re: [H] ASUS RAMPAGE FORMULA LGA 775 Intel X48 ATX Intel Motherboard

2008-06-15 Thread Winterlight
Well, I have no use for Wi-fi on this board, and anything now is 
always going to be obsolete in six months. But I keep my setups for 
years so for me the top end always seems to work out. A motherboard 
isn't something you want to change once you are up and running, like 
say a CPU or more RAM. Besides the cost difference is 150 US, not a 
lot of money to buy in the top end. It isn't like it is a 500 dollar 
Striker Extreme!

thanks for the comment.


At 04:50 PM 6/15/2008, you wrote:

TBH, I'd recommend you buy an Asus P5K-E/Wifi-AP (which I've built
several machines around and they're all awesome) and leave it at that
a top of the line S775 board seems like a silly investment at this
point when it'll be very obsolete in ~6 months as Nehalem launches

On 15 Jun 2008, at 22:00, Winterlight wrote:

I am not an over clocker, or a gamer so it seems odd that I am
thinking about buying this motherboard
ASUS RAMPAGE FORMULA LGA 775 Intel X48 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131284nm_mc=OTC-Frooglecm_mmc=OTC-Froogle-_-Motherboards+-+Intel-_-ASUS-_-13131284

to pair with a Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550 Yorkfield 2.83GHz LGA 775 95W
Quad-Core Processor Model BX80569Q9550 - Retail

but I like it's feature rich design, new power saving features, the
new X48 chipset and most importantly it supports my Corsair XPS2
DDR2 800MHz RAM.

Any comments, advice? thanks






Re: [H] OT - Proof that audiophiles are idiots- the $500Ethernet cable

2008-06-15 Thread Ben Ruset

Right. My knowledge of the super high end is limited. :)

I have a Marantz SR-8200 receiver that I bought back in 2002 that's 
still humming along nicely. 90% of the time it's on playing Dora the 
Explorer DVD's for my daughter, so it's not like I'd have any need to 
update anytime soon.


Hayes Elkins wrote:

None of those brands are really high priced high end either...if you want 
insane prices to match an insane cable, Krell, Cary, Theta, Mark Levinson fit the bill...



Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 13:27:30 -0400
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] OT - Proof that audiophiles are idiots- the $500Ethernet cable

Yeah, but the types of people who are buying $500 cables are not the
types that will typically buy Denon gear. They're more in Marantz,
Rotel, NAD, etc. territory. (And even Marantz is pretty low brow in the
audiophile world.)

Working quite well is another story. I know people with HTIAB systems
that work quite well. They sound pretty good to me.


[H] backup software

2008-06-15 Thread Harvey Best
Just broke down and bought the MyWorld 1 TB external harddrive. This is tne one 
that is networkable. 

Have 2 issues.

1. My router Linksys 310N seems to handle it ok, but the status light on the 
router glows yellow instead of the normal electric blue. I can read and write 
to the drive and I see it on the network. Just wondering what that might be. I 
haven't researched on Linksys web site yet, but thought I would throw it up 
here for ideas first.

2. The back up software (Mionet) that come with it is HORRIBLE! What I want is 
a program that would be able to look at the 2 desktops and 1 laptop that are on 
the network, and back them up in an easy to reinstall (after a major crash) all 
files that are needed to bring the system back. Also, would like it to look at 
the systems each day and update its own back up.

Any suggestions? If its freeware that is great, but I am willing to pay for a 
package that will do what I need.

Any suggestions on the 2 issues appreciated/

Hbest

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