Re: [H] Not yet
At 09:31 PM 11/15/2008, you wrote: Got a link to the KB article? Makes me wonder if that's related to not having PAE since XP32 is most definitely supports a 4GB map: Yes, it supports a 4GB map, but that wasn't my issue. I wrote that all devices with memory, including your video card(s) are deducted from the total of that map.
Re: [H] Not yet
Got a link to the KB article? Makes me wonder if that's related to not having PAE since XP32 is most definitely supports a 4GB map: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa366778.aspx http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/system/platform/server/PAE/PAEdrv.mspx My current system is PAE enabled, 2GB RAM w/ a 512MB video card (512MB*2 actually) and I'm not showing an RAM loss. Why would I @3GB given the 4GB limit? Winterlight wrote: At 07:12 PM 11/14/2008, you wrote: No, it's a 4GB wide address space so you'd loose nothing @3GB of RAM with a 512-1024MB card. I disagree, there is lots of articles about this including in MS Knowledge base. I have actually experienced the drop after installing a video card. In Control Panel\System\General Tab I started out with so much ram and then installed a video card with twice as much RAM and when I checked again my system ram had dropped an appropriate amount. Winterlight wrote: At 08:34 AM 11/14/2008, you wrote: heck running 512 and thinking I need to goto gig, except needs more POWER If you are running 32 bit OS, then a one GB card will take another 512megs of addressable memory. this means if you are currently showing 3GB of RAM with a 512meg video card, and you install a 1GB video card then you will reduce your system memory by 512megs. power leads to heat, heat leads to trouble, trouble leads to the dark side fp
Re: [H] Firefox 3
It was happening with all versions for me. 3.0.4, 3.0.3, 2.0.0.18 etc. It happened while trying to navigate within a web site, paticularly newspapers. Sam maccrawj wrote: What shutdown issue? With what version? I had heard memory leak among other things with 3.03, but 3.04 was just released. Sam Franc wrote: For those of you that have been having problems with Firefox shutdowns, I suggest you try Seamonkey. It solved my problem and my daughters too. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.4/1790 - Release Date: 11/15/2008 9:32 AM -- Sam Franc On the Oregon Coast I must be willing to give up what I am in order to become what I will be.-Einstein
Re: [H] Laptop power issue.
Thanks, I'll check this out too. Bobby -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Sipe Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 6:16 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Laptop power issue. Drivers are definitely a good place to start, but if the laptop is older (since it originally had Win ME installed) there's a good chance that as someone earlier said that it's an ACPI/bios problem. ACPI code is rather notorious for being buggy, especially on older boards. Doubt it would make a difference, but if there are any BIOS updates, you could give that a shot as well. Scott On Nov 15, 2008, at 5:58 PM, Bobby Heid wrote: > I'll have him check the video drivers. > > Thanks, > Bobby > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ben Ruset > Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 5:00 PM > To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com > Subject: Re: [H] Laptop power issue. > > Fairly common problem. Usually the result of a dodgy driver. If it > were > me, I'd look to update the video driver first. I seem to remember > having > similar problems with older Dell laptops and the video driver having > something to do with it. > > Bobby Heid wrote: >> The kid said hibernate, but now that you mention it, I think he meant >> suspend. It is when he closes the cover of the laptop that he >> can't get > it >> to come back on most of the time. >> >> Thanks, >> Bobby > >
Re: [H] Laptop power issue.
Drivers are definitely a good place to start, but if the laptop is older (since it originally had Win ME installed) there's a good chance that as someone earlier said that it's an ACPI/bios problem. ACPI code is rather notorious for being buggy, especially on older boards. Doubt it would make a difference, but if there are any BIOS updates, you could give that a shot as well. Scott On Nov 15, 2008, at 5:58 PM, Bobby Heid wrote: I'll have him check the video drivers. Thanks, Bobby -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ben Ruset Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 5:00 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Laptop power issue. Fairly common problem. Usually the result of a dodgy driver. If it were me, I'd look to update the video driver first. I seem to remember having similar problems with older Dell laptops and the video driver having something to do with it. Bobby Heid wrote: The kid said hibernate, but now that you mention it, I think he meant suspend. It is when he closes the cover of the laptop that he can't get it to come back on most of the time. Thanks, Bobby
Re: [H] Laptop power issue.
I'll have him check the video drivers. Thanks, Bobby -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ben Ruset Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 5:00 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Laptop power issue. Fairly common problem. Usually the result of a dodgy driver. If it were me, I'd look to update the video driver first. I seem to remember having similar problems with older Dell laptops and the video driver having something to do with it. Bobby Heid wrote: > The kid said hibernate, but now that you mention it, I think he meant > suspend. It is when he closes the cover of the laptop that he can't get it > to come back on most of the time. > > Thanks, > Bobby
Re: [H] Laptop power issue.
I will pass this information on. Thanks, Bobby -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Winterlight Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 3:13 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Laptop power issue. At 12:00 PM 11/15/2008, you wrote: >The kid said hibernate, but now that you mention it, I think he meant >suspend. It is when he closes the cover of the laptop that he can't get it >to come back on most of the time. > >Thanks, >Bobby If you are right then this is a common issue. He has to press the FN and un-suspend key and it will come right back up. These keys should be labeled as such.
Re: [H] Laptop power issue.
Fairly common problem. Usually the result of a dodgy driver. If it were me, I'd look to update the video driver first. I seem to remember having similar problems with older Dell laptops and the video driver having something to do with it. Bobby Heid wrote: The kid said hibernate, but now that you mention it, I think he meant suspend. It is when he closes the cover of the laptop that he can't get it to come back on most of the time. Thanks, Bobby
Re: [H] Not yet
At 07:12 PM 11/14/2008, you wrote: No, it's a 4GB wide address space so you'd loose nothing @3GB of RAM with a 512-1024MB card. I disagree, there is lots of articles about this including in MS Knowledge base. I have actually experienced the drop after installing a video card. In Control Panel\System\General Tab I started out with so much ram and then installed a video card with twice as much RAM and when I checked again my system ram had dropped an appropriate amount. Winterlight wrote: At 08:34 AM 11/14/2008, you wrote: heck running 512 and thinking I need to goto gig, except needs more POWER If you are running 32 bit OS, then a one GB card will take another 512megs of addressable memory. this means if you are currently showing 3GB of RAM with a 512meg video card, and you install a 1GB video card then you will reduce your system memory by 512megs. power leads to heat, heat leads to trouble, trouble leads to the dark side fp
Re: [H] Laptop power issue.
At 12:00 PM 11/15/2008, you wrote: The kid said hibernate, but now that you mention it, I think he meant suspend. It is when he closes the cover of the laptop that he can't get it to come back on most of the time. Thanks, Bobby If you are right then this is a common issue. He has to press the FN and un-suspend key and it will come right back up. These keys should be labeled as such.
Re: [H] Laptop power issue.
The kid said hibernate, but now that you mention it, I think he meant suspend. It is when he closes the cover of the laptop that he can't get it to come back on most of the time. Thanks, Bobby -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ben Ruset Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 11:08 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Laptop power issue. Do you mean hibernation or suspend? Because when the laptop is hibernating, it's power is off. When it's in suspend mode it's still powered up, albeit only enough to keep the contents of RAM active. Bobby Heid wrote: > IIRC, he can hold the power button down and shut it down. It just won't > come out of hibernation many times. > > Bobby > >>> Check if there is a reset button on the bottom of the unit... >>> pauls > > >
Re: [H] Firefox 3
No issues with FF3 either. On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 2:08 PM, Stan Zaske <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Not having any problems here and I use the 64 bit version called > "Minefield" on my Vista game box as well. > > > > Sam Franc wrote: > >> For those of you that have been having problems with Firefox shutdowns, I >> suggest you try Seamonkey. >> It solved my problem and my daughters too. >> >> >
Re: [H] Firefox 3
Not having any problems here and I use the 64 bit version called "Minefield" on my Vista game box as well. Sam Franc wrote: For those of you that have been having problems with Firefox shutdowns, I suggest you try Seamonkey. It solved my problem and my daughters too.
Re: [H] Laptop power issue.
And it can't be the button itself if long-press activates soft-off which is a hardware implemented response to the button. I assume you mean suspend since hibernation results in soft-off like shutdown but on powering back up the boot load redirects to the hibernation file for that boot. Sounds like APM/ACPI whatever is not doing it's job. Could also be a bad driver is interfering with the initial suspend-to-ram or suspend-to-disk activity preventing a clean suspend. My Dell C840 has done this to me from time to time, it at least responded to the power-resume press but then would seize & not resume. I've seen where the wrong driver version can lead to 100% CPU on wake, prevent going to sleep, etc... So I'd be checking to be sure all the driver are the laptop manufacture's latest recommended releases, and once it works with them move on to the generics if they are newer. Ben Ruset wrote: Do you mean hibernation or suspend? Because when the laptop is hibernating, it's power is off. When it's in suspend mode it's still powered up, albeit only enough to keep the contents of RAM active. Bobby Heid wrote: IIRC, he can hold the power button down and shut it down. It just won't come out of hibernation many times. Bobby Check if there is a reset button on the bottom of the unit... pauls
Re: [H] Firefox 3
What shutdown issue? With what version? I had heard memory leak among other things with 3.03, but 3.04 was just released. Sam Franc wrote: For those of you that have been having problems with Firefox shutdowns, I suggest you try Seamonkey. It solved my problem and my daughters too.
[H] Firefox 3
For those of you that have been having problems with Firefox shutdowns, I suggest you try Seamonkey. It solved my problem and my daughters too. -- Sam Franc On the Oregon Coast I must be willing to give up what I am in order to become what I will be.-Einstein
Re: [H] Laptop power issue.
Do you mean hibernation or suspend? Because when the laptop is hibernating, it's power is off. When it's in suspend mode it's still powered up, albeit only enough to keep the contents of RAM active. Bobby Heid wrote: IIRC, he can hold the power button down and shut it down. It just won't come out of hibernation many times. Bobby Check if there is a reset button on the bottom of the unit... pauls
