[H] Hello, echo, is anybody out there?
Guys I haven't seen any posts since last Thursday. Is the list alright? Is anybody out there?
Re: [H] Hello, echo, is anybody out there?
I'm around but quiet :) lopaka --- On Tue, 7/28/09, swzaske swza...@yahoo.com wrote: From: swzaske swza...@yahoo.com Subject: [H] Hello, echo, is anybody out there? To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Date: Tuesday, July 28, 2009, 10:18 AM Guys I haven't seen any posts since last Thursday. Is the list alright? Is anybody out there?
Re: [H] Hello, echo, is anybody out there?
Sssshhh, you'll wake everyone ;) Julian (sabre) Sent from my iProduct, cause I'm iSpecial But not in that ishort bus kind of way... On Jul 28, 2009, at 1:40 PM, tmse...@rlrnews.com wrote: Just quiet. --Original Message-- From: swzaske Sender: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com ReplyTo: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] Hello, echo, is anybody out there? Sent: Jul 28, 2009 12:18 PM Guys I haven't seen any posts since last Thursday. Is the list alright? Is anybody out there? Sent via BlackBerry
[H] Blackhat/Defcon
Anyone going? I'm headed out there now and am stating till Monday. Julian (Sabre) Sent from my iProduct, cause I'm iSpecial But not in that ishort bus kind of way... On Jul 28, 2009, at 1:40 PM, tmse...@rlrnews.com wrote: Just quiet. --Original Message-- From: swzaske Sender: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com ReplyTo: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] Hello, echo, is anybody out there? Sent: Jul 28, 2009 12:18 PM Guys I haven't seen any posts since last Thursday. Is the list alright? Is anybody out there? Sent via BlackBerry
Re: [H] Hello, echo, is anybody out there?
Here, but watching the shuttle and space station business. Duncan swzaske wrote: Guys I haven't seen any posts since last Thursday. Is the list alright? Is anybody out there?
Re: [H] [Bulk] Re: Hello, echo, is anybody out there?
This isn't a library. LOL Robert Martin Jr. wrote: I'm around but quiet :) lopaka --- On Tue, 7/28/09, swzaske swza...@yahoo.com wrote: From: swzaske swza...@yahoo.com Subject: [H] Hello, echo, is anybody out there? To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Date: Tuesday, July 28, 2009, 10:18 AM Guys I haven't seen any posts since last Thursday. Is the list alright? Is anybody out there?
Re: [H] Hello, echo, is anybody out there?
I'm saving up all my little bandwidths for a really big one some day...(g) Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 10:18 AM Subject: [H] Hello, echo, is anybody out there? Guys I haven't seen any posts since last Thursday. Is the list alright? Is anybody out there?
Re: [H] Hello, echo, is anybody out there?
Be careful what you ask for... he,he,he... - Original Message - From: swzaske Subject: [H] Hello, echo, is anybody out there? Guys I haven't seen any posts since last Thursday. Is the list alright? Is anybody out there?
Re: [H] [Bulk] Re: Hello, echo, is anybody out there?
How do you know I'm not there now?... Funny you should mention it, I'm headed there right now... Rick Glazier From: swzaske This isn't a library. LOL Robert Martin Jr. wrote: I'm around but quiet :)
Re: [H] Hello, echo, is anybody out there?
Very cool stuff, I love what we've accomplished up there. DSinc wrote: Here, but watching the shuttle and space station business. Duncan swzaske wrote: Guys I haven't seen any posts since last Thursday. Is the list alright? Is anybody out there?
Re: [H] [Bulk] Re: Hello, echo, is anybody out there?
Careful the FBI doesn't arrest you for a DDOS attack. LOL Jeff Lane wrote: I'm saving up all my little bandwidths for a really big one some day...(g) Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 10:18 AM Subject: [H] Hello, echo, is anybody out there? Guys I haven't seen any posts since last Thursday. Is the list alright? Is anybody out there?
Re: [H] Hello, echo, is anybody out there?
LOL Julian Zottl wrote: Sssshhh, you'll wake everyone ;) Julian (sabre) Sent from my iProduct, cause I'm iSpecial But not in that ishort bus kind of way... On Jul 28, 2009, at 1:40 PM, tmse...@rlrnews.com wrote: Just quiet. --Original Message-- From: swzaske Sender: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com ReplyTo: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] Hello, echo, is anybody out there? Sent: Jul 28, 2009 12:18 PM Guys I haven't seen any posts since last Thursday. Is the list alright? Is anybody out there? Sent via BlackBerry
Re: [H] Hello, echo, is anybody out there?
HmmI wondered what those black helicopters were circling around for... Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 11:58 AM Subject: Re: [H] [Bulk] Re: Hello, echo, is anybody out there? Careful the FBI doesn't arrest you for a DDOS attack. LOL Jeff Lane wrote: I'm saving up all my little bandwidths for a really big one some day...(g) Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 10:18 AM Subject: [H] Hello, echo, is anybody out there? Guys I haven't seen any posts since last Thursday. Is the list alright? Is anybody out there?
Re: [H] [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: Hello, echo, is anybody out there?
Yeah, I love the DRM free environment. Rick Glazier wrote: How do you know I'm not there now?... Funny you should mention it, I'm headed there right now... Rick Glazier From: swzaske This isn't a library. LOL Robert Martin Jr. wrote: I'm around but quiet :)
Re: [H] Hello, echo, is anybody out there?
LOL Jeff Lane wrote: HmmI wondered what those black helicopters were circling around for... Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 11:58 AM Subject: Re: [H] [Bulk] Re: Hello, echo, is anybody out there? Careful the FBI doesn't arrest you for a DDOS attack. LOL Jeff Lane wrote: I'm saving up all my little bandwidths for a really big one some day...(g) Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 10:18 AM Subject: [H] Hello, echo, is anybody out there? Guys I haven't seen any posts since last Thursday. Is the list alright? Is anybody out there?
Re: [H] Hello, echo, is anybody out there?
Your lips move but I can't hear what you're saying. -- Regards, joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key... ...now these points of data make a beautiful line...
[H] Making Vista and/or 7 live with XP
Sorry to break up the echoes, but I gotta question! I've been thinking about this for a while. Both my machines here have XP installed. I would like to play around with Vista and/or 7, but at least in Vista's case, 'they' say that it cannot coexist with XP due to the erasure of System Restore Files. But I'm always skeptical of what 'they' say, mainly because 'they' generally have a very narrow viewpoint of the world. HOWEVER Is there a way for either or both to exist with XP. The first and most obvious ploy is to swap hard drives on a tray, but what about installing each on their own drives and going from there? Just looking for some cute ideas. Thanks...Steve __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4286 (20090728) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com
Re: [H] Making Vista and/or 7 live with XP
Installing on separate drives is a good idea but you would have to go into the BIOS every time you want to boot from the other drive. AFAIK Steve Tomporowski wrote: Sorry to break up the echoes, but I gotta question! I've been thinking about this for a while. Both my machines here have XP installed. I would like to play around with Vista and/or 7, but at least in Vista's case, 'they' say that it cannot coexist with XP due to the erasure of System Restore Files. But I'm always skeptical of what 'they' say, mainly because 'they' generally have a very narrow viewpoint of the world. HOWEVER Is there a way for either or both to exist with XP. The first and most obvious ploy is to swap hard drives on a tray, but what about installing each on their own drives and going from there? Just looking for some cute ideas. Thanks...Steve __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4286 (20090728) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com
Re: [H] Hello, echo, is anybody out there?
Perhaps your hearing is still shell shocked from the recent 4th of July celebration. Joe User wrote: Your lips move but I can't hear what you're saying.
Re: [H] Making Vista and/or 7 live with XP
Oh yeah forgot that when I upgraded my game box from XP Home to Vista Home Premium Upgrade I was no longer able to boot into XP (not that I wanted to). It used to irk me that every time I booted that I had to choose Vista or wait the default 30 seconds before the process continued. I came across an interesting little tip about that: http://windows7center.com/tutorials/skip-the-boot-selection-screen-and-boot-right-into-windows-7/ Steve Tomporowski wrote: Sorry to break up the echoes, but I gotta question! I've been thinking about this for a while. Both my machines here have XP installed. I would like to play around with Vista and/or 7, but at least in Vista's case, 'they' say that it cannot coexist with XP due to the erasure of System Restore Files. But I'm always skeptical of what 'they' say, mainly because 'they' generally have a very narrow viewpoint of the world. HOWEVER Is there a way for either or both to exist with XP. The first and most obvious ploy is to swap hard drives on a tray, but what about installing each on their own drives and going from there? Just looking for some cute ideas. Thanks...Steve __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4286 (20090728) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com
Re: [H] Question of solid state drives
Hello all, When it comes to SSD drives they are great for bootdevices and program drives.Remember,all user data should be on another hard drive. I prefer SLC drives, because they seem to run faster thanMLC. But this could be due to Operating Systems as well. Only have tested SSDon Windows XP, Windows Vista and Windows 7. Windows 7 has an enormousperformance increase of all operating systems over the others. Tests were done with a SLC and MLC drive. The testvolumes were defragged and in all windows registries the user drive was forcedto D:\users. After Defragged the drives were then cloned over to the SSD drive. I'm impressed with the performance.I wish I could get one installed in my gamingcomputer at home. But, I would not install World of Warcraft on it, due to WoWdoes write to the install directory numerous times during play. Regards, Tim Lider Sr. Data Recovery Specialist Advanced Data Solutions, LLC http://www.adv-data.com -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com[mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf ofjason.to...@cliffordchance.com Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 3:32 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Question of solid state drives SLC stores 1 bit of data per cell. MLC stores 4. Because of this, the MLC silicon will degradesubstantially faster than the SLC drives do (around 10x). This isn't a major issue for most people as defraging is100% pointless on an SSD and the firmwares use even wear algorithms to ensureall cells are evenly worn down..you get about 10,000 writes per cell on MLCdrives, that will take a very long time to start causing issues. -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf OfThane Sherrington Sent: 23 July 2009 11:20 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] Question of solid state drives I was reading a review of the new Intel MLC drive, and hesays The real strength of the Intel drives is in its random, small file,read/write performance. Here we see a 10% improvement in random readperformance over the 1st gen drives, putting the new X25-M ahead of even theX25-E. Now there are obvious lifespan benefits you get from an SLC drive thatthe G2 can't match, but for a desktop user this thing is even better than theX25-E. I know nothing about SLC vs MLC - what does he mean buyobvious lifespan benefits? T This message and any attachment are confidential and maybe privileged or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, please telephoneor email the sender and delete this message and any attachment from yoursystem.If you are not the intendedrecipient you must not copy this message or attachment or disclose the contentsto any other person. Clifford Chance LLP is a limited liability partnershipregistered in England Wales under number OC323571. The firm's registered office and principal place ofbusiness is at 10 Upper Bank Street, London, E14 5JJ. For further details, including a list of members andtheir professional qualifications, see our website at www.cliffordchance.com. The firm usesthe word 'partner' to refer to a member of Clifford Chance LLP or an employeeor consultant with equivalent standing and qualifications. The firm isregulated by the Solicitors Regulation Authority. The Authority's rules can beaccessed by clicking on the following link: http://www.sra.org.uk/code-of-conduct.page Clifford Chance as a global firm regularly shares clientand/or matter-related data among its different offices and support entities instrict compliance with internal control policies and statutory requirements. Incoming and outgoing email communications may bemonitored by Clifford Chance, as permitted by applicable law and regulations. For further information about Clifford Chance please seeour website at http://www.cliffordchance.comor refer to any Clifford Chance office.
Re: [H] Making Vista and/or 7 live with XP
Nice to know that that is there, I usually found myself just editing the Boot.ini file in a text editor. The thing I was wondering about, if XP and say, Vista overwrite each other's system restore files, if you install each operating system on a different drive, do they still try to put there system restore files in the same place? I suspect so, as most Windows are pretty anal about that. Steve swzaske wrote: Oh yeah forgot that when I upgraded my game box from XP Home to Vista Home Premium Upgrade I was no longer able to boot into XP (not that I wanted to). It used to irk me that every time I booted that I had to choose Vista or wait the default 30 seconds before the process continued. I came across an interesting little tip about that: http://windows7center.com/tutorials/skip-the-boot-selection-screen-and-boot-right-into-windows-7/ Steve Tomporowski wrote: Sorry to break up the echoes, but I gotta question! I've been thinking about this for a while. Both my machines here have XP installed. I would like to play around with Vista and/or 7, but at least in Vista's case, 'they' say that it cannot coexist with XP due to the erasure of System Restore Files. But I'm always skeptical of what 'they' say, mainly because 'they' generally have a very narrow viewpoint of the world. HOWEVER Is there a way for either or both to exist with XP. The first and most obvious ploy is to swap hard drives on a tray, but what about installing each on their own drives and going from there? Just looking for some cute ideas. Thanks...Steve __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4286 (20090728) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4286 (20090728) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4286 (20090728) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com
Re: [H] Making Vista and/or 7 live with XP
Hello Steve, This is how I did it. I reduced the size of the volume XP was on. I think I used Bootlt to do it. Then installed Windows 7 on it. I have 2 volumes on the primary hard drive and use the boot manager to boot between the 2. Although, Booting into Windows XP is no longer needed since I use Windows XP in a virtual Machine now for programs that refuse to work with Windows 7. Regards, Tim Lider Sr. Data Recovery Specialist Advanced Data Solutions, LLC http://www.adv-data.com -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Steve Tomporowski Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 1:47 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] Making Vista and/or 7 live with XP Sorry to break up the echoes, but I gotta question! I've been thinking about this for a while. Both my machines here have XP installed. I would like to play around with Vista and/or 7, but at least in Vista's case, 'they' say that it cannot coexist with XP due to the erasure of System Restore Files. But I'm always skeptical of what 'they' say, mainly because 'they' generally have a very narrow viewpoint of the world. HOWEVER Is there a way for either or both to exist with XP. The first and most obvious ploy is to swap hard drives on a tray, but what about installing each on their own drives and going from there? Just looking for some cute ideas. Thanks...Steve __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4286 (20090728) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com
Re: [H] Making Vista and/or 7 live with XP
When you boot the Vista or Win7 DVD, setup will find your XP installation on one of the drives it detects. Just install on the other drive and there shouldn't be any cross-pollination. Steve Tomporowski wrote: Nice to know that that is there, I usually found myself just editing the Boot.ini file in a text editor. The thing I was wondering about, if XP and say, Vista overwrite each other's system restore files, if you install each operating system on a different drive, do they still try to put there system restore files in the same place? I suspect so, as most Windows are pretty anal about that. Steve swzaske wrote: Oh yeah forgot that when I upgraded my game box from XP Home to Vista Home Premium Upgrade I was no longer able to boot into XP (not that I wanted to). It used to irk me that every time I booted that I had to choose Vista or wait the default 30 seconds before the process continued. I came across an interesting little tip about that: http://windows7center.com/tutorials/skip-the-boot-selection-screen-and-boot-right-into-windows-7/ Steve Tomporowski wrote: Sorry to break up the echoes, but I gotta question! I've been thinking about this for a while. Both my machines here have XP installed. I would like to play around with Vista and/or 7, but at least in Vista's case, 'they' say that it cannot coexist with XP due to the erasure of System Restore Files. But I'm always skeptical of what 'they' say, mainly because 'they' generally have a very narrow viewpoint of the world. HOWEVER Is there a way for either or both to exist with XP. The first and most obvious ploy is to swap hard drives on a tray, but what about installing each on their own drives and going from there? Just looking for some cute ideas. Thanks...Steve __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4286 (20090728) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4286 (20090728) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4286 (20090728) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com
