Re: [H] Seeking SW

2009-11-03 Thread Stan Zaske
Students are getting a good deal on it. IMHO, it's not worth more than 
$50. But typical of MS to overcharge for their software like we are all 
businesses with deep pockets.



John R Steinbruner wrote:
Do you have any relatives who are students?  Or know of any students 
you can ask?


MS is giving free downloads of Server 2008 R2 to students for 
learning purposes thru Dreamspark..


https://www.dreamspark.com/default.aspx

You can get Server 2003 too, or a whole bunch of other stuff like SQL 
server, Virtual Server, Visual Studio, etc







On Nov 2, 2009, at 2:03 PM, DSinc wrote:


Does anyone have a new/used copy of Windows 2003 Server?
I'd like to buy the CD and the License.

I think, after CW's last share, it is time to push my very old server 
closer to 'modern.' It now runs Windows 2000 Server. And, damn, it 
runs well still.

Best,
Duncan







Re: [H] Seeking SW

2009-11-03 Thread FORC5
my kid is registered for next year, wonder if that would coint.

needs a windows live/hotmail account.
fp

At 10:29 PM 11/2/2009, John R Steinbruner Poked the stick with:
Do you have any relatives who are students?  Or know of any students  
you can ask?

MS is giving free downloads of Server 2008 R2 to students for  
learning purposes thru Dreamspark..

https://www.dreamspark.com/default.aspx

You can get Server 2003 too, or a whole bunch of other stuff like SQL  
server, Virtual Server, Visual Studio, etc


-- 
Tallyho ! ]:8)
Taglines below !
--
The greatest headaches are those we cause ourselves.



Re: [H] Seeking SW

2009-11-03 Thread DSinc

John,
I do have a Nephew that may still go to Dalton State (Junior college?). 
I did peek/poke into DreamsPark last week. It seems that MS does 
recognize the Nephews school. Besides, I'd like to avoid 
ownership/authentication issues between MS-Nephew-Me.

Thanks,
Duncan


John R Steinbruner wrote:
Do you have any relatives who are students?  Or know of any students you 
can ask?


MS is giving free downloads of Server 2008 R2 to students for learning 
purposes thru Dreamspark..


https://www.dreamspark.com/default.aspx

You can get Server 2003 too, or a whole bunch of other stuff like SQL 
server, Virtual Server, Visual Studio, etc







On Nov 2, 2009, at 2:03 PM, DSinc wrote:


Does anyone have a new/used copy of Windows 2003 Server?
I'd like to buy the CD and the License.

I think, after CW's last share, it is time to push my very old server 
closer to 'modern.' It now runs Windows 2000 Server. And, damn, it 
runs well still.

Best,
Duncan





Re: [H] Seeking SW

2009-11-03 Thread DSinc

Stan,
The old W2K Server OS was not a gift. It was part of the server I 
bought; a legal license transfer.


Stan Zaske wrote:
That's good that CW gave you your copy of Windows 2000 Server. I payed 
him by PayPal and never received my copy of Windows XP 64 bit. But hey, 
his house burned down and I'm sure he was very much unconcerned with my 
problems.



DSinc wrote:

Does anyone have a new/used copy of Windows 2003 Server?
I'd like to buy the CD and the License.

I think, after CW's last share, it is time to push my very old server 
closer to 'modern.' It now runs Windows 2000 Server. And, damn, it 
runs well still.

Best,
Duncan






Re: [H] Unusual Active Directory Q

2009-11-03 Thread tmservo
Finally. After about 14 hours and minimal sleep, the solution.  Setup a vm, 
used acronis to clone into the vhd rather then turn the tib straight to vhd.  

Then booted ubcd, and reset ide controller. 

Turned off native hyper-v ethernet, and installed legacy device ethernet.. For 
some reason win2k pukes bad on the native. Tried that about 3 times. 

Installed extensions and walla!  Their active directory and pdc virtualized in 
tact, and went from 200mb free on an 8gb drive to 120gb free.  

What a gigantic pain in the ass.  But a trick I will remember for later and 
thought I'd share!
Sent via BlackBerry 

-Original Message-
From: Robert Martin Jr. lopa...@pacbell.net
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 10:09:36 
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] Unusual Active Directory Q

If you've got a working VM for it now, make a full clone and try it on the 
clone. If it hoses everything there's no loss. You can keep attempting 
different hacks on clone copies until you get it right, as long as you keep the 
original VM untouched.

I'm assuming you can do this easily. I use VMWare so I'm not sure whether your 
vm program has similar/same capabilities.

lopaka





From: CW tmse...@rlrnews.com
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Mon, November 2, 2009 3:17:41 AM
Subject: [H] Unusual Active Directory Q

Ok, I've got an unusual active directory problem, that at 5AM is still keeping 
me up thinking about options.

Have a machine that is dying, running Windows 2000 Server.  It's a stand alone 
PDC.  But this machine also has a specific piece of software that may never be 
replicated and so we have to preserve it.  The hardware just won't stand for 
that, though.

So, we virtualized the drives, etc. and all is good.  Boots up fine in HyperV 
server, software starts, etc.

Issue: it took about a week and a half to get this all back on track with the 
help of some vendors on some specific pieces of hardware.  In the meantime, we 
left the dying box run, thinking we'd do this as a test to then merge over just 
the changed data as we finished.

Except they've added a few new users and PCs, which I didn't count on happening 
:(

So, I can't run a System State restore in Win2k, because it will bomb 
(registry is changed since this has been repair installed to make work on a VM) 
tried that with a copy of a VHD.  

The machine name it has (SERVER1) is the same as the physical machine name, 
etc.. in all purposes it's a clone.

Has anyone tried to just manually copy only the NTDS folder from one to another 
assuming machine names and IDs are the same?  This technically should work in 
this goofy circumstance in win2k, but I can't find anyone who has tried such a 
feat..


Re: [H] WMP11 opinions sought?

2009-11-03 Thread Rick Glazier

Have it, don't actually USE it. If it is technically embedded, it
should be kept up to date, just like IE8. (Which I seldom use too.)

It, (and MS-IE8) give me too many Cookies I need to approve manually.
Nothing else I use (too many to list) requires manual hand holding like that.

In fairness to MS, I never tried to fix that behavior.

Rick Glazier

From: DSinc

I use WMP9. OS is XPpro SP3.

Getting lots of pop-ups to update to WMP11.

Opinions sought about WMP11?


Re: [H] Outlook question

2009-11-03 Thread Bobby Heid
I know you can have it check multiple accounts and have the emails come to
the inbox (or wherever you want them to go).  I do not know about the
appointment stuff though.

Bobby

-Original Message-
From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com
[mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Thane Sherrington
Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 3:46 PM
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: [H] Outlook question

Can I have two email accounts going into Outlook and setting 
appointments from each?

T






[H] Outlook question

2009-11-03 Thread Thane Sherrington
Can I have two email accounts going into Outlook and setting 
appointments from each?


T




Re: [H] Unusual Active Directory Q

2009-11-03 Thread Robert Martin Jr.
Congrats, sounds like a stressful but in the end successful venture ;)
And I do remember the few of use still left over from Toms hardware and the 
overclocking list. Many years and many projects later

lopaka





From: tmse...@rlrnews.com tmse...@rlrnews.com
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Tue, November 3, 2009 6:05:26 PM
Subject: Re: [H] Unusual Active Directory Q

Finally. After about 14 hours and minimal sleep, the solution.  Setup a vm, 
used acronis to clone into the vhd rather then turn the tib straight to vhd.  

Then booted ubcd, and reset ide controller. 

Turned off native hyper-v ethernet, and installed legacy device ethernet.. For 
some reason win2k pukes bad on the native. Tried that about 3 times. 

Installed extensions and walla!  Their active directory and pdc virtualized in 
tact, and went from 200mb free on an 8gb drive to 120gb free.  

What a gigantic pain in the ass.  But a trick I will remember for later and 
thought I'd share!
Sent via BlackBerry 

-Original Message-
From: Robert Martin Jr. lopa...@pacbell.net
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 10:09:36 
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] Unusual Active Directory Q

If you've got a working VM for it now, make a full clone and try it on the 
clone. If it hoses everything there's no loss. You can keep attempting 
different hacks on clone copies until you get it right, as long as you keep the 
original VM untouched.

I'm assuming you can do this easily. I use VMWare so I'm not sure whether your 
vm program has similar/same capabilities.

lopaka





From: CW tmse...@rlrnews.com
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Mon, November 2, 2009 3:17:41 AM
Subject: [H] Unusual Active Directory Q

Ok, I've got an unusual active directory problem, that at 5AM is still keeping 
me up thinking about options.

Have a machine that is dying, running Windows 2000 Server.  It's a stand alone 
PDC.  But this machine also has a specific piece of software that may never be 
replicated and so we have to preserve it.  The hardware just won't stand for 
that, though.

So, we virtualized the drives, etc. and all is good.  Boots up fine in HyperV 
server, software starts, etc.

Issue: it took about a week and a half to get this all back on track with the 
help of some vendors on some specific pieces of hardware.  In the meantime, we 
left the dying box run, thinking we'd do this as a test to then merge over just 
the changed data as we finished.

Except they've added a few new users and PCs, which I didn't count on happening 
:(

So, I can't run a System State restore in Win2k, because it will bomb 
(registry is changed since this has been repair installed to make work on a VM) 
tried that with a copy of a VHD.  

The machine name it has (SERVER1) is the same as the physical machine name, 
etc.. in all purposes it's a clone.

Has anyone tried to just manually copy only the NTDS folder from one to another 
assuming machine names and IDs are the same?  This technically should work in 
this goofy circumstance in win2k, but I can't find anyone who has tried such a 
feat..


Re: [H] Seeking SW

2009-11-03 Thread Stan Zaske
I see. Once upon a time I was interested in increasing my main boxes RAM 
to 4 GB's and wanted a copy of Windows XP Home x64. CW told me he had 
some copies laying around that he wasn't going to use and offered me 
one. Being a gentleman, I offered to pay postage and PayPal'd him $5. 
Well, needless to say it didn't happen and I'm not going to bitch about 
a few bucks. Probably should take that as a lesson considering last 
nights exchange with him.



DSinc wrote:

Stan,
The old W2K Server OS was not a gift. It was part of the server I 
bought; a legal license transfer.


Stan Zaske wrote:
That's good that CW gave you your copy of Windows 2000 Server. I 
payed him by PayPal and never received my copy of Windows XP 64 bit. 
But hey, his house burned down and I'm sure he was very much 
unconcerned with my problems.



DSinc wrote:

Does anyone have a new/used copy of Windows 2003 Server?
I'd like to buy the CD and the License.

I think, after CW's last share, it is time to push my very old 
server closer to 'modern.' It now runs Windows 2000 Server. And, 
damn, it runs well still.

Best,
Duncan










Re: [H] Seeking SW

2009-11-03 Thread tmservo
Am I missing something?  I sent you email several times with info, if you 
didn't get you might check your spam folder.  

Sent via BlackBerry 

-Original Message-
From: Stan Zaske swza...@yahoo.com
Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 11:57:01 
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] Seeking SW

I see. Once upon a time I was interested in increasing my main boxes RAM 
to 4 GB's and wanted a copy of Windows XP Home x64. CW told me he had 
some copies laying around that he wasn't going to use and offered me 
one. Being a gentleman, I offered to pay postage and PayPal'd him $5. 
Well, needless to say it didn't happen and I'm not going to bitch about 
a few bucks. Probably should take that as a lesson considering last 
nights exchange with him.


DSinc wrote:
 Stan,
 The old W2K Server OS was not a gift. It was part of the server I 
 bought; a legal license transfer.

 Stan Zaske wrote:
 That's good that CW gave you your copy of Windows 2000 Server. I 
 payed him by PayPal and never received my copy of Windows XP 64 bit. 
 But hey, his house burned down and I'm sure he was very much 
 unconcerned with my problems.


 DSinc wrote:
 Does anyone have a new/used copy of Windows 2003 Server?
 I'd like to buy the CD and the License.

 I think, after CW's last share, it is time to push my very old 
 server closer to 'modern.' It now runs Windows 2000 Server. And, 
 damn, it runs well still.
 Best,
 Duncan






Re: [H] Unusual Active Directory Q

2009-11-03 Thread Stan Zaske
Dude it is still an overclocking list! I do it every day and will never 
stop trying to get the best bang for my buck. Buy, use for awhile then 
sell on Ebay and get something newer and better. Next year is looking 
real good for AMD. InHell, who dat?



Robert Martin Jr. wrote:

Congrats, sounds like a stressful but in the end successful venture ;)
And I do remember the few of use still left over from Toms hardware and the 
overclocking list. Many years and many projects later

lopaka





From: tmse...@rlrnews.com tmse...@rlrnews.com
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Tue, November 3, 2009 6:05:26 PM
Subject: Re: [H] Unusual Active Directory Q

Finally. After about 14 hours and minimal sleep, the solution.  Setup a vm, used acronis to clone into the vhd rather then turn the tib straight to vhd.  

Then booted ubcd, and reset ide controller. 

Turned off native hyper-v ethernet, and installed legacy device ethernet.. For some reason win2k pukes bad on the native. Tried that about 3 times. 

Installed extensions and walla!  Their active directory and pdc virtualized in tact, and went from 200mb free on an 8gb drive to 120gb free.  


What a gigantic pain in the ass.  But a trick I will remember for later and 
thought I'd share!
Sent via BlackBerry 


-Original Message-
From: Robert Martin Jr. lopa...@pacbell.net
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 10:09:36 
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com

Subject: Re: [H] Unusual Active Directory Q

If you've got a working VM for it now, make a full clone and try it on the 
clone. If it hoses everything there's no loss. You can keep attempting 
different hacks on clone copies until you get it right, as long as you keep the 
original VM untouched.

I'm assuming you can do this easily. I use VMWare so I'm not sure whether your 
vm program has similar/same capabilities.

lopaka





From: CW tmse...@rlrnews.com
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Mon, November 2, 2009 3:17:41 AM
Subject: [H] Unusual Active Directory Q

Ok, I've got an unusual active directory problem, that at 5AM is still keeping 
me up thinking about options.

Have a machine that is dying, running Windows 2000 Server.  It's a stand alone 
PDC.  But this machine also has a specific piece of software that may never be 
replicated and so we have to preserve it.  The hardware just won't stand for 
that, though.

So, we virtualized the drives, etc. and all is good.  Boots up fine in HyperV 
server, software starts, etc.

Issue: it took about a week and a half to get this all back on track with the 
help of some vendors on some specific pieces of hardware.  In the meantime, we 
left the dying box run, thinking we'd do this as a test to then merge over just 
the changed data as we finished.

Except they've added a few new users and PCs, which I didn't count on happening 
:(

So, I can't run a System State restore in Win2k, because it will bomb (registry is changed since this has been repair installed to make work on a VM) tried that with a copy of a VHD.  


The machine name it has (SERVER1) is the same as the physical machine name, 
etc.. in all purposes it's a clone.

Has anyone tried to just manually copy only the NTDS folder from one to another 
assuming machine names and IDs are the same?  This technically should work in 
this goofy circumstance in win2k, but I can't find anyone who has tried such a 
feat..

  




Re: [H] Unusual Active Directory Q

2009-11-03 Thread CW
You know, I spent today after we got done with solving the AD doing their new 
Point of sales.. little units that handle their software (it's Jonas if anyone 
is familiar: http://www.jonasclub.com/ )  Anyway, outside of the fact their 
touch screens are old school (COM port driven) and Chit printer technology 
still is crap, we spent the day converting boxes and putting in new POS systems 
that run off Mini-ITX Intel Atom 330 MB.  

I'm not saying I'd use it for my desktop, but the Atom 330/board combo is 
decently faster, a better choice then most microatx/cheap celeron combos, and I 
have nothing bad to say about it.  You can find those boards for like $80 
945G+Atom330 onboard.  One of the best bangs/buck out there, period.  I'm going 
to use another one, slap a USB Mediareader in it, boot to USB for a 
ClarkConnect Firewall.  

We get so focused on the high end, but I can't think of anything at all bad to 
say about this board.  Nothing, absolutely nothing.


-Original message-
From: Stan Zaske swza...@yahoo.com
Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 19:59:33 -0800
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] Unusual Active Directory Q

 Dude it is still an overclocking list! I do it every day and will never 
 stop trying to get the best bang for my buck. Buy, use for awhile then 
 sell on Ebay and get something newer and better. Next year is looking 
 real good for AMD. InHell, who dat?
 


Re: [H] Unusual Active Directory Q

2009-11-03 Thread Greg Sevart
 I'm not saying I'd use it for my desktop, but the Atom 330/board combo
 is decently faster, a better choice then most microatx/cheap celeron
 combos, and I have nothing bad to say about it.  You can find those
 boards for like $80 945G+Atom330 onboard.  One of the best bangs/buck
 out there, period.  I'm going to use another one, slap a USB
 Mediareader in it, boot to USB for a ClarkConnect Firewall.
 

I used to be a fairly big ClarkConnect fan until I tried pfSense. It doesn't 
have the glitz of CC, or the all-in-one multi-purpose functionality, but it is 
infinitely more robust at what it does do. I would seriously consider it in 
places where something like a Cisco ASA (or older PIX) might be a more 
traditional solution. Commercial support is available, and it even can be 
configured in a stateful HA pair.

Something like an Atom board with a cheap CF card or USB thumbdrive would make 
an excellent DIY pfSense platform that would probably be good for at least 
300-500mbit/s of throughput. I did a test of one deployment with an older 
Netburst-based single core 3.33GHz Celeron and got full wirespeed gigabit of 
routing/firewall throughput.

Greg




Re: [H] Unusual Active Directory Q

2009-11-03 Thread Robert Martin Jr.
I've switched almost exclusively to building and using ITX systems at home. 
They are small, use little power, and still have enough kick to run any of the 
games I still play. I've got quad AMD and quad intel boxes and these things are 
tiny but can do some hardcore processing. I've been stripping commercials from 
a bunch of TV recordings using a comskip script and can strip and re-encode an 
hour mpg into high quality xvid in just a few minutes.

The atom platform is solid. My PIAF (PBX-in-a-Flash) VOIP system is based on a 
single core atom CPU and can handle multiple IAX  SIP calls concurently 
without a hiccup. I've also run this off a Pentium-M ITX system and those do 
well even though they are old school.

lopaka





From: CW tmse...@rlrnews.com
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Tue, November 3, 2009 8:15:01 PM
Subject: Re: [H] Unusual Active Directory Q

You know, I spent today after we got done with solving the AD doing their new 
Point of sales.. little units that handle their software (it's Jonas if anyone 
is familiar: http://www.jonasclub.com/ )  Anyway, outside of the fact their 
touch screens are old school (COM port driven) and Chit printer technology 
still is crap, we spent the day converting boxes and putting in new POS systems 
that run off Mini-ITX Intel Atom 330 MB.  

I'm not saying I'd use it for my desktop, but the Atom 330/board combo is 
decently faster, a better choice then most microatx/cheap celeron combos, and I 
have nothing bad to say about it.  You can find those boards for like $80 
945G+Atom330 onboard.  One of the best bangs/buck out there, period.  I'm going 
to use another one, slap a USB Mediareader in it, boot to USB for a 
ClarkConnect Firewall.  

We get so focused on the high end, but I can't think of anything at all bad to 
say about this board.  Nothing, absolutely nothing.


-Original message-
From: Stan Zaske swza...@yahoo.com
Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 19:59:33 -0800
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] Unusual Active Directory Q

 Dude it is still an overclocking list! I do it every day and will never 
 stop trying to get the best bang for my buck. Buy, use for awhile then 
 sell on Ebay and get something newer and better. Next year is looking 
 real good for AMD. InHell, who dat?
 


Re: [H] Unusual Active Directory Q

2009-11-03 Thread tmservo
There are things I like about pfsense.  However, as a paid product, the thing I 
like about clark is the ability to get system monitoring for credit card 
acceptance compliance statements... Which you can't get with pfsense.  That, 
and tiered blacklist and filter groups to deny content to people or specific 
workstations.  

Sent via BlackBerry 

-Original Message-
From: Greg Sevart ad...@xfury.net
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 22:45:45 
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] Unusual Active Directory Q

 I'm not saying I'd use it for my desktop, but the Atom 330/board combo
 is decently faster, a better choice then most microatx/cheap celeron
 combos, and I have nothing bad to say about it.  You can find those
 boards for like $80 945G+Atom330 onboard.  One of the best bangs/buck
 out there, period.  I'm going to use another one, slap a USB
 Mediareader in it, boot to USB for a ClarkConnect Firewall.
 

I used to be a fairly big ClarkConnect fan until I tried pfSense. It doesn't 
have the glitz of CC, or the all-in-one multi-purpose functionality, but it is 
infinitely more robust at what it does do. I would seriously consider it in 
places where something like a Cisco ASA (or older PIX) might be a more 
traditional solution. Commercial support is available, and it even can be 
configured in a stateful HA pair.

Something like an Atom board with a cheap CF card or USB thumbdrive would make 
an excellent DIY pfSense platform that would probably be good for at least 
300-500mbit/s of throughput. I did a test of one deployment with an older 
Netburst-based single core 3.33GHz Celeron and got full wirespeed gigabit of 
routing/firewall throughput.

Greg