[H] funny stuff
Made me laugh. http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2009/12/16/intel_chime_stunt/
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I wish I had even a little of their money. Rick Glazier http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dt9maknsGJ0feature=player_embedded From: Jim Subject: [H] funny stuff Made me laugh. http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2009/12/16/intel_chime_stunt/
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Do you have to have Win7 for TRIM to work? I guess it doesn't matter in my case since I'm planning on installing Win7 on the new drive...but just curious. And I guess I saw a post on a forum from someone saying they wanted to wait until gen3 so Intel could get it all right but maybe they're just more conservative...was wondering what the group consensus was though... BINO -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Rick Glazier Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 1:55 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] SSD Time. I thought Win7 and the Intel Toolkit fixed that. (Trim) Rick Glazier From: Bino Gopal So is the general thinking that the G2 is good enough or are people waiting for the 3rd gen and full implementation of TRIM from the get-go? Really itching to pull the trigger on one but don't want to get stuck with something that's going to have issues shortly down the road when waiting a few months would've gotten me a much better part with a lots less issues...
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Yeah, MS only put Trim in Win 7 from what I have seen, dunno about any possible updates for Vista where they may turn it on as well with updates? I doubt XP will ever get it.. From what I have read, the Gen 2 Intels and Gen 3 and 4 Indilinx-controller SSD's are making lots of people happy right now. Plus the G2 Intel uses newer, faster 34nM chips instead of the older, slower 40 nM chips. -- JRS stei...@pacbell.net Facts do not cease to exist just because they are ignored. - Original Message From: Bino Gopal binogo...@hotmail.com To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Sent: Fri, December 18, 2009 1:41:48 PM Subject: Re: [H] SSD Time. Do you have to have Win7 for TRIM to work? I guess it doesn't matter in my case since I'm planning on installing Win7 on the new drive...but just curious. And I guess I saw a post on a forum from someone saying they wanted to wait until gen3 so Intel could get it all right but maybe they're just more conservative...was wondering what the group consensus was though... BINO -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Rick Glazier Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 1:55 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] SSD Time. I thought Win7 and the Intel Toolkit fixed that. (Trim) Rick Glazier From: Bino Gopal So is the general thinking that the G2 is good enough or are people waiting for the 3rd gen and full implementation of TRIM from the get-go? Really itching to pull the trigger on one but don't want to get stuck with something that's going to have issues shortly down the road when waiting a few months would've gotten me a much better part with a lots less issues...
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OK, time for an end-of-the-year stupid question! Is this SSD business the non-mechanical replacement for our current SATA HD wars/questions/bench races/? Like a flash drive on steroids? Wondering? Best of the Season, Duncan Brian Weeden wrote: I'm just waiting on Santa for my SSD. --- Brian Sent from my iPhone On 2009-12-18, at 4:41 PM, Bino Gopal binogo...@hotmail.com wrote: Do you have to have Win7 for TRIM to work? I guess it doesn't matter in my case since I'm planning on installing Win7 on the new drive...but just curious. And I guess I saw a post on a forum from someone saying they wanted to wait until gen3 so Intel could get it all right but maybe they're just more conservative...was wondering what the group consensus was though... BINO -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Rick Glazier Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 1:55 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] SSD Time. I thought Win7 and the Intel Toolkit fixed that. (Trim) Rick Glazier From: Bino Gopal So is the general thinking that the G2 is good enough or are people waiting for the 3rd gen and full implementation of TRIM from the get-go? Really itching to pull the trigger on one but don't want to get stuck with something that's going to have issues shortly down the road when waiting a few months would've gotten me a much better part with a lots less issues...
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Pretty much. And once you've used a machine that has a good one (read: one not based on a JMicron or Samsung controller), using any machine with a magnetic drive is excruciating. They so vastly improve system responsiveness, yet at the same time, it feels like that's just the way a computer should have been all along. -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of DSinc Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 7:20 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] SSD Time. OK, time for an end-of-the-year stupid question! Is this SSD business the non-mechanical replacement for our current SATA HD wars/questions/bench races/? Like a flash drive on steroids? Wondering? Best of the Season, Duncan
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do you just plug them in like any drive? do you need anything special to mount them? At 06:04 PM 12/18/2009, you wrote: Pretty much. And once you've used a machine that has a good one (read: one not based on a JMicron or Samsung controller), using any machine with a magnetic drive is excruciating. They so vastly improve system responsiveness, yet at the same time, it feels like that's just the way a computer should have been all along. -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of DSinc Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 7:20 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] SSD Time. OK, time for an end-of-the-year stupid question! Is this SSD business the non-mechanical replacement for our current SATA HD wars/questions/bench races/? Like a flash drive on steroids? Wondering? Best of the Season, Duncan
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Yep and not usually (if they do they usually come with). --- Brian Weeden Technical Advisor Secure World Foundation http://www.secureworldfoundation.org +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada +1 (202) 683-8534 US On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 9:34 PM, Winterlight winterli...@winterlight.orgwrote: do you just plug them in like any drive? do you need anything special to mount them? At 06:04 PM 12/18/2009, you wrote: Pretty much. And once you've used a machine that has a good one (read: one not based on a JMicron or Samsung controller), using any machine with a magnetic drive is excruciating. They so vastly improve system responsiveness, yet at the same time, it feels like that's just the way a computer should have been all along. -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of DSinc Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 7:20 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] SSD Time. OK, time for an end-of-the-year stupid question! Is this SSD business the non-mechanical replacement for our current SATA HD wars/questions/bench races/? Like a flash drive on steroids? Wondering? Best of the Season, Duncan
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Standard SATA power and data connections. Mounting is easy. Since they have no moving parts, are fairly immune to shock and vibration, and are exceptionally light, a lot of people are just taping them to the sides or bottom of the case. Most of them use the 2.5 form factor and are either 9.5 or 7mm tall. In my case, I bought a cheap 2x 2.5 to 1x 3.5 adapter and put both of my Intel G2 SSDs in the spot for a single 3.5 drive. -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Winterlight Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 8:35 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] SSD Time. do you just plug them in like any drive? do you need anything special to mount them? At 06:04 PM 12/18/2009, you wrote: Pretty much. And once you've used a machine that has a good one (read: one not based on a JMicron or Samsung controller), using any machine with a magnetic drive is excruciating. They so vastly improve system responsiveness, yet at the same time, it feels like that's just the way a computer should have been all along. -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of DSinc Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 7:20 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] SSD Time. OK, time for an end-of-the-year stupid question! Is this SSD business the non-mechanical replacement for our current SATA HD wars/questions/bench races/? Like a flash drive on steroids? Wondering? Best of the Season, Duncan
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At 06:38 PM 12/18/2009, you wrote: Yep and not usually (if they do they usually come with). I just can't stop thinking that by June they will be twice as big and half the price. I'm guessing you guys run your OS and programs off them? --- Brian Weeden Technical Advisor Secure World Foundation http://www.secureworldfoundation.org +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada +1 (202) 683-8534 US On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 9:34 PM, Winterlight winterli...@winterlight.orgwrote: do you just plug them in like any drive? do you need anything special to mount them? At 06:04 PM 12/18/2009, you wrote: Pretty much. And once you've used a machine that has a good one (read: one not based on a JMicron or Samsung controller), using any machine with a magnetic drive is excruciating. They so vastly improve system responsiveness, yet at the same time, it feels like that's just the way a computer should have been all along. -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of DSinc Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 7:20 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] SSD Time. OK, time for an end-of-the-year stupid question! Is this SSD business the non-mechanical replacement for our current SATA HD wars/questions/bench races/? Like a flash drive on steroids? Wondering? Best of the Season, Duncan
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I haven't gotten mine yet (Santa) but yes, the idea is you use the SSD as a boot drive. Not many people can afford one big enough to use for apps. Although I have seen a couple of projects that use multiple SSDs in RAID setups, for those with way t much money. --- Brian Weeden Technical Advisor Secure World Foundation http://www.secureworldfoundation.org +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada +1 (202) 683-8534 US On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 10:33 PM, Winterlight winterli...@winterlight.orgwrote: At 06:38 PM 12/18/2009, you wrote: Yep and not usually (if they do they usually come with). I just can't stop thinking that by June they will be twice as big and half the price. I'm guessing you guys run your OS and programs off them? --- Brian Weeden Technical Advisor Secure World Foundation http://www.secureworldfoundation.org +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada +1 (202) 683-8534 US On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 9:34 PM, Winterlight winterli...@winterlight.org wrote: do you just plug them in like any drive? do you need anything special to mount them? At 06:04 PM 12/18/2009, you wrote: Pretty much. And once you've used a machine that has a good one (read: one not based on a JMicron or Samsung controller), using any machine with a magnetic drive is excruciating. They so vastly improve system responsiveness, yet at the same time, it feels like that's just the way a computer should have been all along. -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of DSinc Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 7:20 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] SSD Time. OK, time for an end-of-the-year stupid question! Is this SSD business the non-mechanical replacement for our current SATA HD wars/questions/bench races/? Like a flash drive on steroids? Wondering? Best of the Season, Duncan
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Greg, Thanks. Now I know what goes on Santa's list for 2010 Maybe sooner. I've got a machine that may croak its' SATA drive... BEST of the SEASON! Duncan Greg Sevart wrote: Pretty much. And once you've used a machine that has a good one (read: one not based on a JMicron or Samsung controller), using any machine with a magnetic drive is excruciating. They so vastly improve system responsiveness, yet at the same time, it feels like that's just the way a computer should have been all along. -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of DSinc Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 7:20 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] SSD Time. OK, time for an end-of-the-year stupid question! Is this SSD business the non-mechanical replacement for our current SATA HD wars/questions/bench races/? Like a flash drive on steroids? Wondering? Best of the Season, Duncan
Re: [H] eSATA and internal SATA port?
I left only one PC that still using Win XP Pro compatilbily reason with some old applications. The three others are Win 7 systems and with them I can mount/unmount the drive. I use what Win 7's Disk-Manager calls it dynamic format, then the drive will be called foreign drive. At 04:33 PM 12/17/2009, you wrote: I got a new case that has an eSATA connector on the front panel. The mobo has a bunch of SATA ports on it. I'm only using two in my default situation. Can I connect the eSATA connector to one of these SATA ports on the mobo? I'd be plugging in and unplugging from this port as one does with USB ports. Hot swapping, so to speak.
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So, in the Intel G2 SSD the one to get? There's a reasonable chance that I'll get one soon for a another new build (for home). Did you get yours at newegg? Greg Sevart wrote: Standard SATA power and data connections. Mounting is easy. Since they have no moving parts, are fairly immune to shock and vibration, and are exceptionally light, a lot of people are just taping them to the sides or bottom of the case. Most of them use the 2.5 form factor and are either 9.5 or 7mm tall. In my case, I bought a cheap 2x 2.5 to 1x 3.5 adapter and put both of my Intel G2 SSDs in the spot for a single 3.5 drive. -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Winterlight Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 8:35 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] SSD Time. do you just plug them in like any drive? do you need anything special to mount them? At 06:04 PM 12/18/2009, you wrote: Pretty much. And once you've used a machine that has a good one (read: one not based on a JMicron or Samsung controller), using any machine with a magnetic drive is excruciating. They so vastly improve system responsiveness, yet at the same time, it feels like that's just the way a computer should have been all along. -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of DSinc Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 7:20 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] SSD Time. OK, time for an end-of-the-year stupid question! Is this SSD business the non-mechanical replacement for our current SATA HD wars/questions/bench races/? Like a flash drive on steroids? Wondering? Best of the Season, Duncan
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Looks like you can use one of these: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817994064 Brian Weeden wrote: Yep and not usually (if they do they usually come with). --- Brian Weeden Technical Advisor Secure World Foundation http://www.secureworldfoundation.org +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada +1 (202) 683-8534 US On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 9:34 PM, Winterlight winterli...@winterlight.orgwrote: do you just plug them in like any drive? do you need anything special to mount them? At 06:04 PM 12/18/2009, you wrote: Pretty much. And once you've used a machine that has a good one (read: one not based on a JMicron or Samsung controller), using any machine with a magnetic drive is excruciating. They so vastly improve system responsiveness, yet at the same time, it feels like that's just the way a computer should have been all along. -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of DSinc Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 7:20 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] SSD Time. OK, time for an end-of-the-year stupid question! Is this SSD business the non-mechanical replacement for our current SATA HD wars/questions/bench races/? Like a flash drive on steroids? Wondering? Best of the Season, Duncan
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I found this comment on Newegg: *Cons:* The only thing I can say that will be annoying is that when or if i should ever start seeing performance issues, you are suppose to wipe each of your SSD cards with a software called HDDErase 4.x. But to do this, I'll have to unplug each of my SSD cards from my Raid Controller, connect to my motherboard SATA ports and set the BIOS of my motherboard to SATA-TYPE: IDE. Then run the HDDErase to clean them. This is suppose to reset the SSD drives to the factory defaults. When done reconnect your SSD drives back to your raid-controller and restore an image back onto your HDD. *Other Thoughts:* Although this will be annoying having to reset your SSDs every 3-6 months depending on your usage, we all have to remember this is new technology, and software within the next year should solve these issues eventually. And if that software never comes... ooh well. The speed is totally worth it for me!!! Sounds different, for sure. Can you confirm the need to reset the SSD? Greg Sevart wrote: Standard SATA power and data connections. Mounting is easy. Since they have no moving parts, are fairly immune to shock and vibration, and are exceptionally light, a lot of people are just taping them to the sides or bottom of the case. Most of them use the 2.5 form factor and are either 9.5 or 7mm tall. In my case, I bought a cheap 2x 2.5 to 1x 3.5 adapter and put both of my Intel G2 SSDs in the spot for a single 3.5 drive. -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Winterlight Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 8:35 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] SSD Time. do you just plug them in like any drive? do you need anything special to mount them? At 06:04 PM 12/18/2009, you wrote: Pretty much. And once you've used a machine that has a good one (read: one not based on a JMicron or Samsung controller), using any machine with a magnetic drive is excruciating. They so vastly improve system responsiveness, yet at the same time, it feels like that's just the way a computer should have been all along. -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of DSinc Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 7:20 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] SSD Time. OK, time for an end-of-the-year stupid question! Is this SSD business the non-mechanical replacement for our current SATA HD wars/questions/bench races/? Like a flash drive on steroids? Wondering? Best of the Season, Duncan
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Which mobo are you using? Thanks. Garind P wrote: I left only one PC that still using Win XP Pro compatilbily reason with some old applications. The three others are Win 7 systems and with them I can mount/unmount the drive. I use what Win 7's Disk-Manager calls it dynamic format, then the drive will be called foreign drive. At 04:33 PM 12/17/2009, you wrote: I got a new case that has an eSATA connector on the front panel. The mobo has a bunch of SATA ports on it. I'm only using two in my default situation. Can I connect the eSATA connector to one of these SATA ports on the mobo? I'd be plugging in and unplugging from this port as one does with USB ports. Hot swapping, so to speak.
