Re: [H] Win7 Ent 32-bit vs 64-bit?
On Sat, 1 May 2010, maccrawj wrote: Differing amounts of memory hole from differing configurations would be my guess before blaming a bug. This. 4GB of memory is the max you can have between anything. Got an oldass video card that uses only 32MB of memory? You'll have more usable main memory than if you have 2x768MB NVidia's (In which case you'd be down by 1.5GB or have only 2.5G show up. This isn't rocket science. Anything that uses addressable memory needs to fit within the 32bit range. Modem with 32k? Fit into the 32 bit range. PCI SATA adaptor with a cache? Needs to fit in the 32bit range. New Fangled Video card with 1GB of memory? Needs to fit in the 32bit range. All of those things take away from the 4GB hard cap on 32bit systems. This can be programically sidestepped with kernel programming, very similarly to how dos used to work with highmem. http://www.linux.com/archive/feed/119287 Windows PAE has a lot of artificial limitations in place, put there by Microsoft. Windows XP is software limited to 4GB of memory Windows Vista is software limited to 4GB of memory Windows 7 is also software limited to 4GB of memory http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa366778%28v=VS.85%29.aspx It has been shown that Vista at least uses the same codebase as Server 2008 and can have some DLL's switched to enable higher memory limits, so it is definitely a programming decision, and one that is likely explained by the following: Drivers need to understand PAE in order to function without issue. MS knew that hardware programmers can barely get a regular driver working, so adding more trouble to a 32bit system when they have a 64bit solution available is not worth it. I agree with that. If you have a 64bit processor you should have a 64bit OS. Christopher Fisk -- SwifT many; we have bugreports asking us to fix the docs on the cds SwifT i fixed/invalid them because they're fixed online, and they reopen stating it's still wrong on their cd SwifT *sigh*
Re: [H] Bing Maps..
On Sat, 1 May 2010, CW wrote: I've kind of come to the same conclusion. The Adobe Flash plugin for Firefox was the bane of my existance.. with it in, memory leak in Firefox was insane, I'd get up to 500Mb in the task manager (and over) for a firefox instance in a few hours. Pulled it out, and Firefox went back to reasonable. If you're not running noscript in firefox at least run flashblock. Makes it so flash apps don't start automatically, you have to hit a play button. You can whitelist sites like youtube if you want. The silverlight plugin thing doesn't seem to have an issue that I can find that way. And, to be honest, it actually just works the way I expect it to. I don't really ask a lot of a thing like silverlight except: don't screw up. Watched the NCAA's on ESPN (silverlight) and I use Netflix in mediacenter.. both like a charm. And since they are coming out with 720p/5.1 audio Silverlight from Netflix this summer... I have silverlight installed but have not run into anything I knew was silverlight. Somewhere along the line, Adobe just completely screwed their product, they either didn't grow it, didn't do something.. because right now, the flash plugin just sucks. Meanwhile, Silverlight freaking can use video cards for hardware acceleration (DXVA) so CPU usage is less, memory usage is less.. Hell, MS even went out and helps with a Linux/Unix version (Moonlight) that they work with.. Adobe? Yeah, not so much. ( http://www.go-mono.com/moonlight/prerelease.aspx ) Adobe is HORRID. A customer of mine had purchased 2 copies of a $600 ebook (medical drug interactions yearly book) when they read that adobe had a library software that allowed then to check the ebook in and out of the library. Turns out that this was on a maximum of 6 PC's. They have 25+ PC's in their office and need to be able to look at that ebook randomly on any of those 25 PC's. They were ok with the 2 copy limit because they have ad 2 copies in their physical library forever. The ebook was the same price as the physical book, but they wanted to be able to save the time going down to the library to get the book so went the ebook method. Final solution after talking to adobe support (Which the first 5 things they had us try had NOTHING to do with the problem at hand) was to strip the DRM using the instructions from http://i-u2665-cabbages.blogspot.com/2009/02/circumventing-adobe-adept-drm-for-epub.html You need to have a valid license (It uses your license to decrypt the PDF) but after that you end up with an unprotected PDF. Sometimes MS is an easy target to bash.. a bit too easy. So, when they actually get something right, it either gets overlooked, or it has to be enough of a dead-on that adoption happens (win7). Win7 to me is no more than Vista SP3. They got rid of the shit that was annoying as hell and had the advantage of drivers being compatible between vista and windows 7 so didn't have the launch pains that Vista had. Vista properly configured and patched to SP2 is not a terrible OS (anymore). Kind of like how at SP2 XP came into it's own. Vista required too much memory, had too few drivers (NVidia screwed the pooch HARD with their vista drivers at launch), and MS bowed to the manufacturers and lowered the requirements unrealistically. I've ripped Flash off of several PCs and just went Silverlight. So far, I haven't found a site I care about I don't see in either H264 or Silverlight. This may be a solution I go with, I'm looking for a replacement for Flash and Reader for my medical customers due to the sheer number of exploits we have to keep ahead of. Christopher Fisk -- BOFH Excuse #298: Not enough interrupts
Re: [H] Seperate networks.
On Sun, 2 May 2010, Bobby Heid wrote: Hey, Every now and then I need to bring people's PCs to my house. I use sneaker net to copy over any files and all that I might need to fix their machine. After I am pretty sure I have it all cleaned up, I then will connect it to my LAN to make sure all the Windows updates are applied and anything else that needs updating. What I'd like to do is to have two networks that can both access the same internet connection but cannot see each other (unless I wanted them to). ZyXEL ZyWALL 2 Plus has this capability: Secure Zones Technology With the enhanced *DMZ zone, SOHO can easily deploy their access server or WIFI appliance separate from the trusted local network (LAN). The *DMZ zone has its own DHCP service and all zones are securely separated by firewall rules. http://us.zyxel.com/Products/details.aspx?PC1IndexFlag=20040908175941CategoryGroupNo=FF94F854-B6F1-47B7-BFB7-4660CF8649C8 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833181021 Essentially, it's a soho router that supports a DMZ, any router/firewall that has DMZ capability will do what you want. It can be very nice on the DMZ side, you can configure it so it can only access the sites you want it to access and everything else is blocked. For example, setup your DMZ to allow access only to Trend Micro's house call and the microsoft update site. What type of setup would I need to have to do this? Any links that will demonstrate it? The above router with the DMZ is your best bet. No need for double NAT any more and you can really limit each private subnet as much as you like and do direct non-nat routing between the 2. Also remote access in with the VPN software when you're on the road. Christopher Fisk -- I WILL NOT INSTIGATE REVOLUTION I WILL NOT INSTIGATE REVOLUTION Bart Simpson on chalkboard in episode 7G06
Re: [H] Seperate networks.
Use use a little smoothwall box to do that. I have a 192.168.1.X, 10.0.0.X 192.168.2.X. The first is my internal LAN. I have a clarkconnect box that does about the same thing but it's not located by my work area. lopaka From: Bobby Heid bh...@sc.rr.com To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Sent: Sun, May 2, 2010 10:48:51 AM Subject: [H] Seperate networks. Hey, Every now and then I need to bring people's PCs to my house. I use sneaker net to copy over any files and all that I might need to fix their machine. After I am pretty sure I have it all cleaned up, I then will connect it to my LAN to make sure all the Windows updates are applied and anything else that needs updating. What I'd like to do is to have two networks that can both access the same internet connection but cannot see each other (unless I wanted them to). What type of setup would I need to have to do this? Any links that will demonstrate it? I currently have a standard Linksys WRT54GS router connected to a Motorola cable modem. Thanks, Bobby
Re: [H] Separate networks.
There's a hack available for a few linksys routers that lets you assign a different IP range to the 4th ethernet port and keep it separated from the others. All the suggestions I'm seeing require additional hardware and constant electricity draw, where I feel the minimum hardware neccessary the better. I would recommend either a central clarkconnect or smoothwall box, or a linksys router that supports the 4th network port hack and also virtual wireless access points (which can also be kept separate from home network). lopaka From: Winterlight winterli...@winterlight.org To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Sent: Sun, May 2, 2010 11:16:41 AM Subject: Re: [H] Separate networks. You need two more routers. Give the first one a IP addresses of 192.168.3.1 and plug your modem into it. This is the WAN Plug the other two routers into the WAN. One end into one of the WAN ports and one end into the wan port of the individual routers. Give your new routers a different IP address, LAN one = 192.168.1.1 and LAN2 = 192.168.2.1 once you set it up all the routers will have access to the internet but LAN one will not be able to even see LAN two because the individual firewalls will block them. I have this setup using three Linksys routers. I set it up to isolate my LAN from my WAP. It was easy to setup, but for me it was a bear to actually get the routers to work the way they were suppose to. I kept having to call Linksys and they would do things like clone the mac address or some other trick, and eventually it all worked. However, once it was up and running it has run flawlessly for four or five years. Good luck, w At 10:48 AM 5/2/2010, you wrote: Hey, Every now and then I need to bring people's PCs to my house. I use sneaker net to copy over any files and all that I might need to fix their machine. After I am pretty sure I have it all cleaned up, I then will connect it to my LAN to make sure all the Windows updates are applied and anything else that needs updating. What I'd like to do is to have two networks that can both access the same internet connection but cannot see each other (unless I wanted them to). What type of setup would I need to have to do this? Any links that will demonstrate it? I currently have a standard Linksys WRT54GS router connected to a Motorola cable modem. Thanks, Bobby
Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build
OK, well I see it's time I update the post. So far I already have here: Intel Core i7-930 CORSAIR CMPSU-850HX 850W COOLER MASTER HAF 922 Windows 7 Ultimate O/S Here is what I plan on ordering next: * GIGABYTE GA-X58A-UD3R * G.SKILL PI Series 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) * XFX HD-587A-ZND9 Radeon HD 5870 1GB * Intel X25-M Mainstream SSDSA2MH080G2R5 2.5 80GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive - For second HD I'll either go with a Western Digital VelociRaptor WD6000HLHX 600GB or regular SATA perhaps the SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200. I'll pick up a cheap DVD drive for it as well. I think I feel pretty good about this setup, but if anyone has anything they would like to add, recommend, suggest that may make me change my mind on something please let me know. Thanks All... On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 12:47 AM, Greg Sevart ad...@xfury.net wrote: That Kingston model has a new Toshiba controller and uses Toshiba NAND. It might be fine, but after the number of failed Vertex drives I've had, I'm sticking with something more enterprise and/or proven--which means Intel to me. -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware- boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of GPL Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 8:32 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build Back to SSD. What form factor do I need to be looking at here? I just got my cooler master case and power supply. I need to open them up tomorrow and have a look around. Microcenter has the i7 930 for 199 local so I am going to pick one of those up. I sort have been dragging my feet with the SSD situation. I see form factors of 2.5 and 3.5. Will I need some adapter to make it fit in the tower? Been eyeing the Intel X25-M Mainstream SSDSA2MH080G2R5 2.5 80GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) for roughly $230. Or the... Kingston SSDNow V+ Series SNVP325-S2/128GB 2.5 128GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) for roughly $320.
Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build
All that sweetness and no blu-ray? On 5/3/2010 2:58 PM, GPL wrote: OK, well I see it's time I update the post. So far I already have here: Intel Core i7-930 CORSAIR CMPSU-850HX 850W COOLER MASTER HAF 922 Windows 7 Ultimate O/S Here is what I plan on ordering next: * GIGABYTE GA-X58A-UD3R * G.SKILL PI Series 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) * XFX HD-587A-ZND9 Radeon HD 5870 1GB * Intel X25-M Mainstream SSDSA2MH080G2R5 2.5 80GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive - For second HD I'll either go with a Western Digital VelociRaptor WD6000HLHX 600GB or regular SATA perhaps the SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200. I'll pick up a cheap DVD drive for it as well. I think I feel pretty good about this setup, but if anyone has anything they would like to add, recommend, suggest that may make me change my mind on something please let me know. Thanks All... On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 12:47 AM, Greg Sevartad...@xfury.net wrote: That Kingston model has a new Toshiba controller and uses Toshiba NAND. It might be fine, but after the number of failed Vertex drives I've had, I'm sticking with something more enterprise and/or proven--which means Intel to me. -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware- boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of GPL Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 8:32 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build Back to SSD. What form factor do I need to be looking at here? I just got my cooler master case and power supply. I need to open them up tomorrow and have a look around. Microcenter has the i7 930 for 199 local so I am going to pick one of those up. I sort have been dragging my feet with the SSD situation. I see form factors of 2.5 and 3.5. Will I need some adapter to make it fit in the tower? Been eyeing the Intel X25-M Mainstream SSDSA2MH080G2R5 2.5 80GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) for roughly $230. Or the... Kingston SSDNow V+ Series SNVP325-S2/128GB 2.5 128GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) for roughly $320. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.814 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2851 - Release Date: 05/03/10 02:27:00
Re: [H] Separate networks.
It's not a hack it's as legit as any 'nix box with 5 nics + IPTables being reconfigured based on what I read. On 5/3/2010 9:00 AM, Robert Martin Jr. wrote: There's a hack available for a few linksys routers that lets you assign a different IP range to the 4th ethernet port and keep it separated from the others. All the suggestions I'm seeing require additional hardware and constant electricity draw, where I feel the minimum hardware neccessary the better. I would recommend either a central clarkconnect or smoothwall box, or a linksys router that supports the 4th network port hack and also virtual wireless access points (which can also be kept separate from home network). lopaka
Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build
Looks like a great system! Personally I'm firmly an Asus ROG guy but doubt you can go wrong with Gigabyte. Consider a BluRay-R/DVD-RW vs. plain DVD-RW. What about sound card? Don't get burnt by ADI, etc... AC97 crap like I did! On 5/3/2010 11:58 AM, GPL wrote: OK, well I see it's time I update the post. So far I already have here: Intel Core i7-930 CORSAIR CMPSU-850HX 850W COOLER MASTER HAF 922 Windows 7 Ultimate O/S Here is what I plan on ordering next: * GIGABYTE GA-X58A-UD3R * G.SKILL PI Series 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) * XFX HD-587A-ZND9 Radeon HD 5870 1GB * Intel X25-M Mainstream SSDSA2MH080G2R5 2.5 80GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive - For second HD I'll either go with a Western Digital VelociRaptor WD6000HLHX 600GB or regular SATA perhaps the SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200. I'll pick up a cheap DVD drive for it as well. I think I feel pretty good about this setup, but if anyone has anything they would like to add, recommend, suggest that may make me change my mind on something please let me know. Thanks All...
Re: [H] Separate networks.
On Mon, 3 May 2010, maccrawj wrote: It's not a hack it's as legit as any 'nix box with 5 nics + IPTables being reconfigured based on what I read. Hack as in clever solution, not hack as in crack. Christopher Fisk
Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build
Just curious why you're not considering the 1099T? I too as going to build a 930 setup, but now with the 1099T, I'm seriously considering it. Julian On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 3:38 PM, maccrawj maccr...@gmail.com wrote: Looks like a great system! Personally I'm firmly an Asus ROG guy but doubt you can go wrong with Gigabyte. Consider a BluRay-R/DVD-RW vs. plain DVD-RW. What about sound card? Don't get burnt by ADI, etc... AC97 crap like I did! On 5/3/2010 11:58 AM, GPL wrote: OK, well I see it's time I update the post. So far I already have here: Intel Core i7-930 CORSAIR CMPSU-850HX 850W COOLER MASTER HAF 922 Windows 7 Ultimate O/S Here is what I plan on ordering next: * GIGABYTE GA-X58A-UD3R * G.SKILL PI Series 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) * XFX HD-587A-ZND9 Radeon HD 5870 1GB * Intel X25-M Mainstream SSDSA2MH080G2R5 2.5 80GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive - For second HD I'll either go with a Western Digital VelociRaptor WD6000HLHX 600GB or regular SATA perhaps the SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200. I'll pick up a cheap DVD drive for it as well. I think I feel pretty good about this setup, but if anyone has anything they would like to add, recommend, suggest that may make me change my mind on something please let me know. Thanks All...
Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build
I havent bought a sound card in a decade. Typically I have a headset on in the evening. I always use onboard sound. Maybe Im missing something but if I don't know what Im missing I guess Im OK. I don't have ONE blue ray disc in this house. Most of my DVD collection is little einsteins and thomas the tank engine that my little kids play on the DVD player in house and car. I like ASUS too, its a toss up for me, just need to pick one. On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 3:38 PM, maccrawj maccr...@gmail.com wrote: Looks like a great system! Personally I'm firmly an Asus ROG guy but doubt you can go wrong with Gigabyte. Consider a BluRay-R/DVD-RW vs. plain DVD-RW. What about sound card? Don't get burnt by ADI, etc... AC97 crap like I did! On 5/3/2010 11:58 AM, GPL wrote: OK, well I see it's time I update the post. So far I already have here: Intel Core i7-930 CORSAIR CMPSU-850HX 850W COOLER MASTER HAF 922 Windows 7 Ultimate O/S Here is what I plan on ordering next: * GIGABYTE GA-X58A-UD3R * G.SKILL PI Series 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) * XFX HD-587A-ZND9 Radeon HD 5870 1GB * Intel X25-M Mainstream SSDSA2MH080G2R5 2.5 80GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive - For second HD I'll either go with a Western Digital VelociRaptor WD6000HLHX 600GB or regular SATA perhaps the SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200. I'll pick up a cheap DVD drive for it as well. I think I feel pretty good about this setup, but if anyone has anything they would like to add, recommend, suggest that may make me change my mind on something please let me know. Thanks All...
Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build
1099T? What is that? A TAX FORM? On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 3:42 PM, GPL hardwarelistrea...@gmail.com wrote: I havent bought a sound card in a decade. Typically I have a headset on in the evening. I always use onboard sound. Maybe Im missing something but if I don't know what Im missing I guess Im OK. I don't have ONE blue ray disc in this house. Most of my DVD collection is little einsteins and thomas the tank engine that my little kids play on the DVD player in house and car. I like ASUS too, its a toss up for me, just need to pick one. On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 3:38 PM, maccrawj maccr...@gmail.com wrote: Looks like a great system! Personally I'm firmly an Asus ROG guy but doubt you can go wrong with Gigabyte. Consider a BluRay-R/DVD-RW vs. plain DVD-RW. What about sound card? Don't get burnt by ADI, etc... AC97 crap like I did! On 5/3/2010 11:58 AM, GPL wrote: OK, well I see it's time I update the post. So far I already have here: Intel Core i7-930 CORSAIR CMPSU-850HX 850W COOLER MASTER HAF 922 Windows 7 Ultimate O/S Here is what I plan on ordering next: * GIGABYTE GA-X58A-UD3R * G.SKILL PI Series 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) * XFX HD-587A-ZND9 Radeon HD 5870 1GB * Intel X25-M Mainstream SSDSA2MH080G2R5 2.5 80GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive - For second HD I'll either go with a Western Digital VelociRaptor WD6000HLHX 600GB or regular SATA perhaps the SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200. I'll pick up a cheap DVD drive for it as well. I think I feel pretty good about this setup, but if anyone has anything they would like to add, recommend, suggest that may make me change my mind on something please let me know. Thanks All...
Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build
Our local microcenter had the 1090t for $199. Basically too good of a deal. It won't challenge intels high end anywhere, but its performance out of handbrake any on the newer x64 x264 encoder rocks. I mean, really rocks. I guess I'm not so much a gamer where that's a big sell factor for me. Sent via BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Julian Zottl jzo...@radiantnetworks.net Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 15:42:12 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build Just curious why you're not considering the 1099T? I too as going to build a 930 setup, but now with the 1099T, I'm seriously considering it. Julian On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 3:38 PM, maccrawj maccr...@gmail.com wrote: Looks like a great system! Personally I'm firmly an Asus ROG guy but doubt you can go wrong with Gigabyte. Consider a BluRay-R/DVD-RW vs. plain DVD-RW. What about sound card? Don't get burnt by ADI, etc... AC97 crap like I did! On 5/3/2010 11:58 AM, GPL wrote: OK, well I see it's time I update the post. So far I already have here: Intel Core i7-930 CORSAIR CMPSU-850HX 850W COOLER MASTER HAF 922 Windows 7 Ultimate O/S Here is what I plan on ordering next: * GIGABYTE GA-X58A-UD3R * G.SKILL PI Series 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) * XFX HD-587A-ZND9 Radeon HD 5870 1GB * Intel X25-M Mainstream SSDSA2MH080G2R5 2.5 80GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive - For second HD I'll either go with a Western Digital VelociRaptor WD6000HLHX 600GB or regular SATA perhaps the SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200. I'll pick up a cheap DVD drive for it as well. I think I feel pretty good about this setup, but if anyone has anything they would like to add, recommend, suggest that may make me change my mind on something please let me know. Thanks All...
Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build
I bought the i7 930 at Microcenter for $199 myself. The rest of the stuff was/will be bought online. For some reason the microcenter i7 930 deal was way too good a deal not to drive down there and pay for. On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 5:14 PM, tmse...@rlrnews.com wrote: Our local microcenter had the 1090t for $199. Basically too good of a deal. It won't challenge intels high end anywhere, but its performance out of handbrake any on the newer x64 x264 encoder rocks. I mean, really rocks. I guess I'm not so much a gamer where that's a big sell factor for me. Sent via BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Julian Zottl jzo...@radiantnetworks.net Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 15:42:12 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build Just curious why you're not considering the 1099T? I too as going to build a 930 setup, but now with the 1099T, I'm seriously considering it. Julian On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 3:38 PM, maccrawj maccr...@gmail.com wrote: Looks like a great system! Personally I'm firmly an Asus ROG guy but doubt you can go wrong with Gigabyte. Consider a BluRay-R/DVD-RW vs. plain DVD-RW. What about sound card? Don't get burnt by ADI, etc... AC97 crap like I did! On 5/3/2010 11:58 AM, GPL wrote: OK, well I see it's time I update the post. So far I already have here: Intel Core i7-930 CORSAIR CMPSU-850HX 850W COOLER MASTER HAF 922 Windows 7 Ultimate O/S Here is what I plan on ordering next: * GIGABYTE GA-X58A-UD3R * G.SKILL PI Series 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) * XFX HD-587A-ZND9 Radeon HD 5870 1GB * Intel X25-M Mainstream SSDSA2MH080G2R5 2.5 80GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive - For second HD I'll either go with a Western Digital VelociRaptor WD6000HLHX 600GB or regular SATA perhaps the SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200. I'll pick up a cheap DVD drive for it as well. I think I feel pretty good about this setup, but if anyone has anything they would like to add, recommend, suggest that may make me change my mind on something please let me know. Thanks All...
Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build
Sometimes microcenter just throws out processors at a crazy loss. Sent via BlackBerry -Original Message- From: GPL hardwarelistrea...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 17:17:08 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build I bought the i7 930 at Microcenter for $199 myself. The rest of the stuff was/will be bought online. For some reason the microcenter i7 930 deal was way too good a deal not to drive down there and pay for. On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 5:14 PM, tmse...@rlrnews.com wrote: Our local microcenter had the 1090t for $199. Basically too good of a deal. It won't challenge intels high end anywhere, but its performance out of handbrake any on the newer x64 x264 encoder rocks. I mean, really rocks. I guess I'm not so much a gamer where that's a big sell factor for me. Sent via BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Julian Zottl jzo...@radiantnetworks.net Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 15:42:12 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build Just curious why you're not considering the 1099T? I too as going to build a 930 setup, but now with the 1099T, I'm seriously considering it. Julian On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 3:38 PM, maccrawj maccr...@gmail.com wrote: Looks like a great system! Personally I'm firmly an Asus ROG guy but doubt you can go wrong with Gigabyte. Consider a BluRay-R/DVD-RW vs. plain DVD-RW. What about sound card? Don't get burnt by ADI, etc... AC97 crap like I did! On 5/3/2010 11:58 AM, GPL wrote: OK, well I see it's time I update the post. So far I already have here: Intel Core i7-930 CORSAIR CMPSU-850HX 850W COOLER MASTER HAF 922 Windows 7 Ultimate O/S Here is what I plan on ordering next: * GIGABYTE GA-X58A-UD3R * G.SKILL PI Series 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) * XFX HD-587A-ZND9 Radeon HD 5870 1GB * Intel X25-M Mainstream SSDSA2MH080G2R5 2.5 80GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive - For second HD I'll either go with a Western Digital VelociRaptor WD6000HLHX 600GB or regular SATA perhaps the SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200. I'll pick up a cheap DVD drive for it as well. I think I feel pretty good about this setup, but if anyone has anything they would like to add, recommend, suggest that may make me change my mind on something please let me know. Thanks All...
Re: [H] Separate networks.
Thanks for all of the suggestions guys. I will digest them and I'm sure I'll have more questions. Thanks, Bobby -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Fisk Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 3:41 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Separate networks. On Mon, 3 May 2010, maccrawj wrote: It's not a hack it's as legit as any 'nix box with 5 nics + IPTables being reconfigured based on what I read. Hack as in clever solution, not hack as in crack. Christopher Fisk
Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build
Well for stereo mode w/ headset no real advantage above AC97's though some of the crap mobo makers are using have major driver support issues (ADI Soundmax in my case) where they don't update the ODM won't release updates either. As far as bluray I meant if the drives are cheap then having the ability to read data and/or video discs could be an worthwhile investment. On 5/3/2010 12:42 PM, GPL wrote: I havent bought a sound card in a decade. Typically I have a headset on in the evening. I always use onboard sound. Maybe Im missing something but if I don't know what Im missing I guess Im OK. I don't have ONE blue ray disc in this house. Most of my DVD collection is little einsteins and thomas the tank engine that my little kids play on the DVD player in house and car. I like ASUS too, its a toss up for me, just need to pick one. On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 3:38 PM, maccrawjmaccr...@gmail.com wrote: Looks like a great system! Personally I'm firmly an Asus ROG guy but doubt you can go wrong with Gigabyte. Consider a BluRay-R/DVD-RW vs. plain DVD-RW. What about sound card? Don't get burnt by ADI, etc... AC97 crap like I did!
Re: [H] Separate networks.
Well I knew he didn't mean crack but I did assume kludge, NBD. On 5/3/2010 12:41 PM, Christopher Fisk wrote: On Mon, 3 May 2010, maccrawj wrote: It's not a hack it's as legit as any 'nix box with 5 nics + IPTables being reconfigured based on what I read. Hack as in clever solution, not hack as in crack. Christopher Fisk
Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build
I use the mobo sound on my Gigabyte more for blu-rays...it sounds great! Same for music too. With a good quality mobo, it seems there is little reason to buy a sound card... On 5/3/2010 6:29 PM, maccrawj wrote: Well for stereo mode w/ headset no real advantage above AC97's though some of the crap mobo makers are using have major driver support issues (ADI Soundmax in my case) where they don't update the ODM won't release updates either. As far as bluray I meant if the drives are cheap then having the ability to read data and/or video discs could be an worthwhile investment. On 5/3/2010 12:42 PM, GPL wrote: I havent bought a sound card in a decade. Typically I have a headset on in the evening. I always use onboard sound. Maybe Im missing something but if I don't know what Im missing I guess Im OK. I don't have ONE blue ray disc in this house. Most of my DVD collection is little einsteins and thomas the tank engine that my little kids play on the DVD player in house and car. I like ASUS too, its a toss up for me, just need to pick one. On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 3:38 PM, maccrawjmaccr...@gmail.com wrote: Looks like a great system! Personally I'm firmly an Asus ROG guy but doubt you can go wrong with Gigabyte. Consider a BluRay-R/DVD-RW vs. plain DVD-RW. What about sound card? Don't get burnt by ADI, etc... AC97 crap like I did! No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.814 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2852 - Release Date: 05/03/10 14:27:00
Re: [H] Separate networks.
Nah, just meant hack as in not standard setup and taking some manual intervention. I couldn't find the exact article I followed but there are a couple tutorials that look pretty similar ;) Pretty easy stuff for most THGers to do especially if you already have compatible hardware laying around. lopaka From: maccrawj maccr...@gmail.com To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Sent: Mon, May 3, 2010 3:30:45 PM Subject: Re: [H] Separate networks. Well I knew he didn't mean crack but I did assume kludge, NBD. On 5/3/2010 12:41 PM, Christopher Fisk wrote: On Mon, 3 May 2010, maccrawj wrote: It's not a hack it's as legit as any 'nix box with 5 nics + IPTables being reconfigured based on what I read. Hack as in clever solution, not hack as in crack. Christopher Fisk
Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build
I just bought one on Ebay minutes ago for $189 free shipping. A drop in solution with the F10 BIOS version on my Gigabyte mobo. Was really hoping to get it for less but oh well, them's the breaks.. On 5/3/2010 2:42 PM, Julian Zottl wrote: Just curious why you're not considering the 1099T? I too as going to build a 930 setup, but now with the 1099T, I'm seriously considering it. Julian On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 3:38 PM, maccrawjmaccr...@gmail.com wrote: Looks like a great system! Personally I'm firmly an Asus ROG guy but doubt you can go wrong with Gigabyte. Consider a BluRay-R/DVD-RW vs. plain DVD-RW. What about sound card? Don't get burnt by ADI, etc... AC97 crap like I did! On 5/3/2010 11:58 AM, GPL wrote: OK, well I see it's time I update the post. So far I already have here: Intel Core i7-930 CORSAIR CMPSU-850HX 850W COOLER MASTER HAF 922 Windows 7 Ultimate O/S Here is what I plan on ordering next: * GIGABYTE GA-X58A-UD3R * G.SKILL PI Series 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) * XFX HD-587A-ZND9 Radeon HD 5870 1GB * Intel X25-M Mainstream SSDSA2MH080G2R5 2.5 80GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive - For second HD I'll either go with a Western Digital VelociRaptor WD6000HLHX 600GB or regular SATA perhaps the SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200. I'll pick up a cheap DVD drive for it as well. I think I feel pretty good about this setup, but if anyone has anything they would like to add, recommend, suggest that may make me change my mind on something please let me know. Thanks All...
Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build
Yeah, can't wait to see the difference on Handbrake myself. On 5/3/2010 4:14 PM, tmse...@rlrnews.com wrote: Our local microcenter had the 1090t for $199. Basically too good of a deal. It won't challenge intels high end anywhere, but its performance out of handbrake any on the newer x64 x264 encoder rocks. I mean, really rocks. I guess I'm not so much a gamer where that's a big sell factor for me. Sent via BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Julian Zottljzo...@radiantnetworks.net Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 15:42:12 To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build Just curious why you're not considering the 1099T? I too as going to build a 930 setup, but now with the 1099T, I'm seriously considering it. Julian On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 3:38 PM, maccrawjmaccr...@gmail.com wrote: Looks like a great system! Personally I'm firmly an Asus ROG guy but doubt you can go wrong with Gigabyte. Consider a BluRay-R/DVD-RW vs. plain DVD-RW. What about sound card? Don't get burnt by ADI, etc... AC97 crap like I did! On 5/3/2010 11:58 AM, GPL wrote: OK, well I see it's time I update the post. So far I already have here: Intel Core i7-930 CORSAIR CMPSU-850HX 850W COOLER MASTER HAF 922 Windows 7 Ultimate O/S Here is what I plan on ordering next: * GIGABYTE GA-X58A-UD3R * G.SKILL PI Series 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) * XFX HD-587A-ZND9 Radeon HD 5870 1GB * Intel X25-M Mainstream SSDSA2MH080G2R5 2.5 80GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive - For second HD I'll either go with a Western Digital VelociRaptor WD6000HLHX 600GB or regular SATA perhaps the SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200. I'll pick up a cheap DVD drive for it as well. I think I feel pretty good about this setup, but if anyone has anything they would like to add, recommend, suggest that may make me change my mind on something please let me know. Thanks All...
Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build
It outpaces the i975 at the office (but its close, really close). But as a drop in replacement, easiest option ever. Sent via BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Stan Zaske swza...@yahoo.com Date: Mon, 03 May 2010 19:42:29 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build Yeah, can't wait to see the difference on Handbrake myself. On 5/3/2010 4:14 PM, tmse...@rlrnews.com wrote: Our local microcenter had the 1090t for $199. Basically too good of a deal. It won't challenge intels high end anywhere, but its performance out of handbrake any on the newer x64 x264 encoder rocks. I mean, really rocks. I guess I'm not so much a gamer where that's a big sell factor for me. Sent via BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Julian Zottljzo...@radiantnetworks.net Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 15:42:12 To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build Just curious why you're not considering the 1099T? I too as going to build a 930 setup, but now with the 1099T, I'm seriously considering it. Julian On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 3:38 PM, maccrawjmaccr...@gmail.com wrote: Looks like a great system! Personally I'm firmly an Asus ROG guy but doubt you can go wrong with Gigabyte. Consider a BluRay-R/DVD-RW vs. plain DVD-RW. What about sound card? Don't get burnt by ADI, etc... AC97 crap like I did! On 5/3/2010 11:58 AM, GPL wrote: OK, well I see it's time I update the post. So far I already have here: Intel Core i7-930 CORSAIR CMPSU-850HX 850W COOLER MASTER HAF 922 Windows 7 Ultimate O/S Here is what I plan on ordering next: * GIGABYTE GA-X58A-UD3R * G.SKILL PI Series 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) * XFX HD-587A-ZND9 Radeon HD 5870 1GB * Intel X25-M Mainstream SSDSA2MH080G2R5 2.5 80GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive - For second HD I'll either go with a Western Digital VelociRaptor WD6000HLHX 600GB or regular SATA perhaps the SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200. I'll pick up a cheap DVD drive for it as well. I think I feel pretty good about this setup, but if anyone has anything they would like to add, recommend, suggest that may make me change my mind on something please let me know. Thanks All...
Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build
You're talking about an i7 975? If it runs that closely to such a high dollar setup I'm stoked.. On 5/3/2010 7:49 PM, tmse...@rlrnews.com wrote: It outpaces the i975 at the office (but its close, really close). But as a drop in replacement, easiest option ever. Sent via BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Stan Zaskeswza...@yahoo.com Date: Mon, 03 May 2010 19:42:29 To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build Yeah, can't wait to see the difference on Handbrake myself. On 5/3/2010 4:14 PM, tmse...@rlrnews.com wrote: Our local microcenter had the 1090t for $199. Basically too good of a deal. It won't challenge intels high end anywhere, but its performance out of handbrake any on the newer x64 x264 encoder rocks. I mean, really rocks. I guess I'm not so much a gamer where that's a big sell factor for me. Sent via BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Julian Zottljzo...@radiantnetworks.net Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 15:42:12 To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build Just curious why you're not considering the 1099T? I too as going to build a 930 setup, but now with the 1099T, I'm seriously considering it. Julian On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 3:38 PM, maccrawjmaccr...@gmail.com wrote: Looks like a great system! Personally I'm firmly an Asus ROG guy but doubt you can go wrong with Gigabyte. Consider a BluRay-R/DVD-RW vs. plain DVD-RW. What about sound card? Don't get burnt by ADI, etc... AC97 crap like I did! On 5/3/2010 11:58 AM, GPL wrote: OK, well I see it's time I update the post. So far I already have here: Intel Core i7-930 CORSAIR CMPSU-850HX 850W COOLER MASTER HAF 922 Windows 7 Ultimate O/S Here is what I plan on ordering next: * GIGABYTE GA-X58A-UD3R * G.SKILL PI Series 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) * XFX HD-587A-ZND9 Radeon HD 5870 1GB * Intel X25-M Mainstream SSDSA2MH080G2R5 2.5 80GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive - For second HD I'll either go with a Western Digital VelociRaptor WD6000HLHX 600GB or regular SATA perhaps the SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200. I'll pick up a cheap DVD drive for it as well. I think I feel pretty good about this setup, but if anyone has anything they would like to add, recommend, suggest that may make me change my mind on something please let me know. Thanks All...
Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build
All you ever wanted to know about the 1090T: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-phenom-ii-x6-1090t-890fx,2613.html http://www.anandtech.com/show/3674/amds-sixcore-phenom-ii-x6-1090t-1055t-reviewed http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-phenom-ii-x6-1090t-890fx,2613.htmlNo, it doesn't beat Intel's offerings but it fairs well against their $1000 chip (vs $200 for the 1090T). Julian On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 9:02 PM, Stan Zaske swza...@yahoo.com wrote: You're talking about an i7 975? If it runs that closely to such a high dollar setup I'm stoked.. On 5/3/2010 7:49 PM, tmse...@rlrnews.com wrote: It outpaces the i975 at the office (but its close, really close). But as a drop in replacement, easiest option ever. Sent via BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Stan Zaskeswza...@yahoo.com Date: Mon, 03 May 2010 19:42:29 To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build Yeah, can't wait to see the difference on Handbrake myself. On 5/3/2010 4:14 PM, tmse...@rlrnews.com wrote: Our local microcenter had the 1090t for $199. Basically too good of a deal. It won't challenge intels high end anywhere, but its performance out of handbrake any on the newer x64 x264 encoder rocks. I mean, really rocks. I guess I'm not so much a gamer where that's a big sell factor for me. Sent via BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Julian Zottljzo...@radiantnetworks.net Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 15:42:12 To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build Just curious why you're not considering the 1099T? I too as going to build a 930 setup, but now with the 1099T, I'm seriously considering it. Julian On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 3:38 PM, maccrawjmaccr...@gmail.com wrote: Looks like a great system! Personally I'm firmly an Asus ROG guy but doubt you can go wrong with Gigabyte. Consider a BluRay-R/DVD-RW vs. plain DVD-RW. What about sound card? Don't get burnt by ADI, etc... AC97 crap like I did! On 5/3/2010 11:58 AM, GPL wrote: OK, well I see it's time I update the post. So far I already have here: Intel Core i7-930 CORSAIR CMPSU-850HX 850W COOLER MASTER HAF 922 Windows 7 Ultimate O/S Here is what I plan on ordering next: * GIGABYTE GA-X58A-UD3R * G.SKILL PI Series 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) * XFX HD-587A-ZND9 Radeon HD 5870 1GB * Intel X25-M Mainstream SSDSA2MH080G2R5 2.5 80GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive - For second HD I'll either go with a Western Digital VelociRaptor WD6000HLHX 600GB or regular SATA perhaps the SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200. I'll pick up a cheap DVD drive for it as well. I think I feel pretty good about this setup, but if anyone has anything they would like to add, recommend, suggest that may make me change my mind on something please let me know. Thanks All...
Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build
I'd agree. Hadn't seen their reviews will check. But everyone seems to be using the non-updated x64 build of x264. But the performance rocks for it. Sent via BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Julian Zottl jzo...@radiantnetworks.net Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 22:36:06 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build All you ever wanted to know about the 1090T: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-phenom-ii-x6-1090t-890fx,2613.html http://www.anandtech.com/show/3674/amds-sixcore-phenom-ii-x6-1090t-1055t-reviewed http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-phenom-ii-x6-1090t-890fx,2613.htmlNo, it doesn't beat Intel's offerings but it fairs well against their $1000 chip (vs $200 for the 1090T). Julian On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 9:02 PM, Stan Zaske swza...@yahoo.com wrote: You're talking about an i7 975? If it runs that closely to such a high dollar setup I'm stoked.. On 5/3/2010 7:49 PM, tmse...@rlrnews.com wrote: It outpaces the i975 at the office (but its close, really close). But as a drop in replacement, easiest option ever. Sent via BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Stan Zaskeswza...@yahoo.com Date: Mon, 03 May 2010 19:42:29 To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build Yeah, can't wait to see the difference on Handbrake myself. On 5/3/2010 4:14 PM, tmse...@rlrnews.com wrote: Our local microcenter had the 1090t for $199. Basically too good of a deal. It won't challenge intels high end anywhere, but its performance out of handbrake any on the newer x64 x264 encoder rocks. I mean, really rocks. I guess I'm not so much a gamer where that's a big sell factor for me. Sent via BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Julian Zottljzo...@radiantnetworks.net Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 15:42:12 To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build Just curious why you're not considering the 1099T? I too as going to build a 930 setup, but now with the 1099T, I'm seriously considering it. Julian On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 3:38 PM, maccrawjmaccr...@gmail.com wrote: Looks like a great system! Personally I'm firmly an Asus ROG guy but doubt you can go wrong with Gigabyte. Consider a BluRay-R/DVD-RW vs. plain DVD-RW. What about sound card? Don't get burnt by ADI, etc... AC97 crap like I did! On 5/3/2010 11:58 AM, GPL wrote: OK, well I see it's time I update the post. So far I already have here: Intel Core i7-930 CORSAIR CMPSU-850HX 850W COOLER MASTER HAF 922 Windows 7 Ultimate O/S Here is what I plan on ordering next: * GIGABYTE GA-X58A-UD3R * G.SKILL PI Series 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) * XFX HD-587A-ZND9 Radeon HD 5870 1GB * Intel X25-M Mainstream SSDSA2MH080G2R5 2.5 80GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive - For second HD I'll either go with a Western Digital VelociRaptor WD6000HLHX 600GB or regular SATA perhaps the SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200. I'll pick up a cheap DVD drive for it as well. I think I feel pretty good about this setup, but if anyone has anything they would like to add, recommend, suggest that may make me change my mind on something please let me know. Thanks All...
Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build
Yeah, I doubt it will change anything, but I'd love it if this pushes Intel to release some reasonably priced 32nm 6-core i7's. Or hell, even a s1366 32nm quad-core would be nice. For the record, the 3.2GHz 1090T is $300, the 2.8GHz 1055T is $200. -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware- boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Julian Zottl Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 9:36 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build All you ever wanted to know about the 1090T: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-phenom-ii-x6-1090t- 890fx,2613.html http://www.anandtech.com/show/3674/amds-sixcore-phenom-ii-x6-1090t- 1055t-reviewed http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-phenom-ii-x6-1090t- 890fx,2613.htmlNo, it doesn't beat Intel's offerings but it fairs well against their $1000 chip (vs $200 for the 1090T). Julian
Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build
Oops, sorry about the price mix up! One other thing: On air cooling, people are getting it to 4Ghz :) Julian On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 10:51 PM, Greg Sevart ad...@xfury.net wrote: Yeah, I doubt it will change anything, but I'd love it if this pushes Intel to release some reasonably priced 32nm 6-core i7's. Or hell, even a s1366 32nm quad-core would be nice. For the record, the 3.2GHz 1090T is $300, the 2.8GHz 1055T is $200. -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware- boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Julian Zottl Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 9:36 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build All you ever wanted to know about the 1090T: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-phenom-ii-x6-1090t- 890fx,2613.html http://www.anandtech.com/show/3674/amds-sixcore-phenom-ii-x6-1090t- 1055t-reviewed http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-phenom-ii-x6-1090t- 890fx,2613.htmlNo, it doesn't beat Intel's offerings but it fairs well against their $1000 chip (vs $200 for the 1090T). Julian