Re: [H] Windows 8.1 problem
Blah blah, not selling me on that Winerlight! The simple fact that Valve jumped ship from Windows says a lot about what Redmond is up to. There is ZERO reason to switch to 8 from 7 or Vita for that matter and 10 is on borrowed time until it's vetted as reversing 8's mistakes like metro the app store, not likely. All M$ wants, like the xbox experiment, is to lock the system down so far you have to pay them to fart. And why in the hell in the prime of Android would you want a windows phone? Might as well suggest an iPhone! On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 1:00 PM, Winterlight winterli...@winterlight.org wrote: . I don't think System Restore restores all files - it isn't an image, just protection for key system files. It restores everything back to what it was. It restores changed files. I have never had it not work. In my experience, Windows 8 is significantly more flaky than Windows 7, so you may have issues with System Restore in 8. That is just windows BS myth by people who hate metro. I multi boot my windows 7 ultimate with Windows 8.1 and once I had 8 set up I never boot into 7 anymore. Windows 8 is much more secure and stable then 7. It has been well documented that 8 works better and faster on older hardware then 7. Yes, everybody went crazy over metro but outside of that it is a much better OS then Win7. Once you use third party software to deal with the start menu, and desktop environment metro ain't that bad. I don't mind the metro environment for specific apps which cost 1-3 dollars. Gone are the days when you needed to spend 40 bucks on a specific use app. And there are lots of good windows apps out there that I would never buy if I couldn't get for a buck or so. If you have windows 8.1 phone then you can use the apps on your phone and your desktop. And One drive is synced effortlessly between the two. A lot of the complaints about Win8.1 is whining from those who haven't taken the time to learn how to use it, and disliked the start menu from the moment they booted it up. The usual suspects who still whine about how great Windows 2000 is. Yes, it looks like 10 will be a winner and I am looking forward to installing it in a year or so, but 8.1 has been a good upgrade from 7 for me, and has been unfairly criticized .. it's not that bad.
Re: [H] Windows 8.1 problem
Question is what file are you prevent from restoring? Must be something in the logs about it. Could be the very action that hid the files is what's preventing their restore. I'm sure this message mean the files in question (that won't restore) ARE in the restore but write is being blocked. Chkdsk is good advice always as 1st course of action for soft errors but SMART is better for checking drive health. On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 12:23 PM, Thane Sherrington th...@computerconnectionltd.com wrote: At 05:24 PM 02/10/2014, Bruce Sinclair wrote: Hello everyone. New Guy here. I have a new Lenovo M83 mini-tower running Win 8.1 64bit Pro OS . While “exploring” the C:\ folder ( BUT not the C:\Windows folder), I either deleted or hid a set of files. I tried to run the System Restore program to recover them. I don't think System Restore restores all files - it isn't an image, just protection for key system files. I received the following error message: “System Restore did not complete successfully. Your computer’s system files and setting were not changed. Details: System Restore could not access a file. This is probably because an anti-virus program is running on this computer. Temporarily disable your antivirus program and retry System Restore. An unspecified error occurred during System Restore (ox80070005)” My guess is that your system restore point is damaged. You could try a different restore point. In my experience, Windows 8 is significantly more flaky than Windows 7, so you may have issues with System Restore in 8. Another possibility is that your hard drive is corrupted/failing. You could try running a CHKDSK before doing the System Restore. T
Re: [H] Windows 8.1 problem
At 05:00 PM 03/10/2014, Winterlight wrote: I don't think System Restore restores all files - it isn't an image, just protection for key system files. It restores everything back to what it was. It restores changed files. I have never had it not work. It replaces user files with old copies? In my experience, Windows 8 is significantly more flaky than Windows 7, so you may have issues with System Restore in 8. That is just windows BS myth by people who hate metro. I multi boot my windows 7 ultimate with Windows 8.1 and once I had 8 set up I never boot into 7 anymore. Windows 8 is much more secure and stable then 7. It has been well documented that 8 works better and faster on older hardware then 7. Yes, everybody went crazy over metro but outside of that it is a much better OS then Win7. Once you use third party software to deal with the start menu, and desktop environment metro ain't that bad. I don't mind the metro environment I hate to call you on this Winterlight, but this just isn't true. The 8 works better on older hardware is just wrong. I work on a lot of different machines - 25-40 a week, and I see a lot of 8 machines. I haven't seen one that outperformed a similar Windows 7 machine, and the odd problems and issues with 8 are significantly greater than 7. T
Re: [H] Windows 8.1 problem
At 06:20 AM 05/10/2014, Joshua MacCraw wrote: Chkdsk is good advice always as 1st course of action for soft errors but SMART is better for checking drive health. Good point. A SMART test would be worth doing as well. T
Re: [H] Windows 8.1 problem
At 02:15 AM 10/5/2014, you wrote: ll M$ wants, like the xbox experiment, is to lock the system down so far you have to pay them to fart. sounds like more MS is evil, I love XP, and want to live in the past whining. And why in the hell in the prime of Android would you want a windows phone? How about a more elegant GUI then Android, and an easier to use OS that works perfectly with the desktop I make my living with. Or the 42 megapixel camera on my Nokia 1020 that makes it the best snapshot camera in the world. Android is full of bugs, and issues that are constantly being reported, and it has become the magnet for phone malware. Might as well suggest an iPhone! On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 1:00 PM, Winterlight winterli...@winterlight.org wrote: . I don't think System Restore restores all files - it isn't an image, just protection for key system files. It restores everything back to what it was. It restores changed files. I have never had it not work. In my experience, Windows 8 is significantly more flaky than Windows 7, so you may have issues with System Restore in 8. That is just windows BS myth by people who hate metro. I multi boot my windows 7 ultimate with Windows 8.1 and once I had 8 set up I never boot into 7 anymore. Windows 8 is much more secure and stable then 7. It has been well documented that 8 works better and faster on older hardware then 7. Yes, everybody went crazy over metro but outside of that it is a much better OS then Win7. Once you use third party software to deal with the start menu, and desktop environment metro ain't that bad. I don't mind the metro environment for specific apps which cost 1-3 dollars. Gone are the days when you needed to spend 40 bucks on a specific use app. And there are lots of good windows apps out there that I would never buy if I couldn't get for a buck or so. If you have windows 8.1 phone then you can use the apps on your phone and your desktop. And One drive is synced effortlessly between the two. A lot of the complaints about Win8.1 is whining from those who haven't taken the time to learn how to use it, and disliked the start menu from the moment they booted it up. The usual suspects who still whine about how great Windows 2000 is. Yes, it looks like 10 will be a winner and I am looking forward to installing it in a year or so, but 8.1 has been a good upgrade from 7 for me, and has been unfairly criticized .. it's not that bad.
Re: [H] Windows 8.1 problem
I hate to call you on this Winterlight, but this just isn't true. The 8 works better on older hardware is just wrong. I work on a lot of different machines - 25-40 a week, and I see a lot of 8 machines. I haven't seen one that outperformed a similar Windows 7 machine, and the odd problems and issues with 8 are significantly greater than 7. T I doubt that your conclusion has been reached after having done any in the lab testing as did PCWorld and Maximum PC. Odd problems and issues... you mean a learning curve that end users just don't want to have to deal with. Yes, you have to learn new stuff to move forward, learning new ways is often annoying, and painful.
Re: [H] Windows 8.1 problem
I have run the CHKDSK with no errors detected. I know what S.M.A.R.T. means but is it part of Windows Administrator tools or do I need to get/buy a third party application? Thank you for your help. Regards, Bruce Sinclair On 10/5/2014 5:20 AM, Joshua MacCraw wrote: Question is what file are you prevent from restoring? Must be something in the logs about it. Could be the very action that hid the files is what's preventing their restore. I'm sure this message mean the files in question (that won't restore) ARE in the restore but write is being blocked. Chkdsk is good advice always as 1st course of action for soft errors but SMART is better for checking drive health. On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 12:23 PM, Thane Sherrington th...@computerconnectionltd.com wrote: At 05:24 PM 02/10/2014, Bruce Sinclair wrote: Hello everyone. New Guy here. I have a new Lenovo M83 mini-tower running Win 8.1 64bit Pro OS . While “exploring” the C:\ folder ( BUT not the C:\Windows folder), I either deleted or hid a set of files. I tried to run the System Restore program to recover them. I don't think System Restore restores all files - it isn't an image, just protection for key system files. I received the following error message: “System Restore did not complete successfully. Your computer’s system files and setting were not changed. Details: System Restore could not access a file. This is probably because an anti-virus program is running on this computer. Temporarily disable your antivirus program and retry System Restore. An unspecified error occurred during System Restore (ox80070005)” My guess is that your system restore point is damaged. You could try a different restore point. In my experience, Windows 8 is significantly more flaky than Windows 7, so you may have issues with System Restore in 8. Another possibility is that your hard drive is corrupted/failing. You could try running a CHKDSK before doing the System Restore. T -- Regards, Bruce We sleep soundly in our beds because rough men [and women] stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm. - George Orwell
Re: [H] Windows 8.1 problem
http://sourceforge.net/projects/smartmontools/ It's CLI likely needs administrator rights. On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 2:16 PM, Bruce Sinclair rbsi...@gmail.com wrote: I have run the CHKDSK with no errors detected. I know what S.M.A.R.T. means but is it part of Windows Administrator tools or do I need to get/buy a third party application? Thank you for your help. Regards, Bruce Sinclair On 10/5/2014 5:20 AM, Joshua MacCraw wrote: Question is what file are you prevent from restoring? Must be something in the logs about it. Could be the very action that hid the files is what's preventing their restore. I'm sure this message mean the files in question (that won't restore) ARE in the restore but write is being blocked. Chkdsk is good advice always as 1st course of action for soft errors but SMART is better for checking drive health. On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 12:23 PM, Thane Sherrington th...@computerconnectionltd.com wrote: At 05:24 PM 02/10/2014, Bruce Sinclair wrote: Hello everyone. New Guy here. I have a new Lenovo M83 mini-tower running Win 8.1 64bit Pro OS . While “exploring” the C:\ folder ( BUT not the C:\Windows folder), I either deleted or hid a set of files. I tried to run the System Restore program to recover them. I don't think System Restore restores all files - it isn't an image, just protection for key system files. I received the following error message: “System Restore did not complete successfully. Your computer’s system files and setting were not changed. Details: System Restore could not access a file. This is probably because an anti-virus program is running on this computer. Temporarily disable your antivirus program and retry System Restore. An unspecified error occurred during System Restore (ox80070005)” My guess is that your system restore point is damaged. You could try a different restore point. In my experience, Windows 8 is significantly more flaky than Windows 7, so you may have issues with System Restore in 8. Another possibility is that your hard drive is corrupted/failing. You could try running a CHKDSK before doing the System Restore. T -- Regards, Bruce We sleep soundly in our beds because rough men [and women] stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm. - George Orwell
Re: [H] Windows 8.1 problem
You're going to deny MS goal is to lock the platform up? You don't see xbox as the perfect testing ground it is to root out rooting? ;-) Boo hoo so Android isn't iOS or Windows simple polished but it's a hell of a lot more open customizable with stock (or branded) interface replaceable so you have options. Hell I'd jump to an Ubuntu phone before I do a windows phone. Evil XP Whining? Funny I think I said Vista 7 not something about XP. You gain nothing moving to 8 except headaches and bad joke interface attempt, at best you break even still have to learn to utilize it's pale by comparison to Android interface. On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 12:21 PM, Winterlight winterli...@winterlight.org wrote: At 02:15 AM 10/5/2014, you wrote: ll M$ wants, like the xbox experiment, is to lock the system down so far you have to pay them to fart. sounds like more MS is evil, I love XP, and want to live in the past whining. And why in the hell in the prime of Android would you want a windows phone? How about a more elegant GUI then Android, and an easier to use OS that works perfectly with the desktop I make my living with. Or the 42 megapixel camera on my Nokia 1020 that makes it the best snapshot camera in the world. Android is full of bugs, and issues that are constantly being reported, and it has become the magnet for phone malware. Might as well suggest an iPhone! On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 1:00 PM, Winterlight winterli...@winterlight.org wrote: . I don't think System Restore restores all files - it isn't an image, just protection for key system files. It restores everything back to what it was. It restores changed files. I have never had it not work. In my experience, Windows 8 is significantly more flaky than Windows 7, so you may have issues with System Restore in 8. That is just windows BS myth by people who hate metro. I multi boot my windows 7 ultimate with Windows 8.1 and once I had 8 set up I never boot into 7 anymore. Windows 8 is much more secure and stable then 7. It has been well documented that 8 works better and faster on older hardware then 7. Yes, everybody went crazy over metro but outside of that it is a much better OS then Win7. Once you use third party software to deal with the start menu, and desktop environment metro ain't that bad. I don't mind the metro environment for specific apps which cost 1-3 dollars. Gone are the days when you needed to spend 40 bucks on a specific use app. And there are lots of good windows apps out there that I would never buy if I couldn't get for a buck or so. If you have windows 8.1 phone then you can use the apps on your phone and your desktop. And One drive is synced effortlessly between the two. A lot of the complaints about Win8.1 is whining from those who haven't taken the time to learn how to use it, and disliked the start menu from the moment they booted it up. The usual suspects who still whine about how great Windows 2000 is. Yes, it looks like 10 will be a winner and I am looking forward to installing it in a year or so, but 8.1 has been a good upgrade from 7 for me, and has been unfairly criticized .. it's not that bad.
