Re: [H] Anyone see the CERT today about AUTORUN?

2009-01-21 Thread DHSinclair

Chris,
ROTFLMAO!

Well, I do not believe I am quite that rural, yet!  And the "gerbils" are 
APC ups's.

But, I do see your point.
I'll test this on one machine and see what happens; about the 
"mountpoints/2" business.
The machine can be rebuilt easy enough! I now have a pre-fix image of it 
ATM.  I now have a current "test" XPpro machine!   Just for stuff like this.

Thanks,
Duncan

At 12:40 01/21/2009 -0500, you wrote:

On Wed, 21 Jan 2009, DHSinclair wrote:


Chris,
Thanks for this answer to Wayne's alternative.  I have read thru the doc 
several times now.
I'd really like to install this business, BUT I do have some concern 
about the delete of the "moutpoints2" key.  I do not have a key, I have a 
Folder/Key. And, it has very much inside it.
I see keys for each of my installed I/O on the machine. This I get.  But, 
I also see many {big hex #} keys also which I really do not wish to 
research prior to deletion of the parent key.


I do NOT yet use mountpoints for remote drives on my LAN yet.  If I read 
Wayne's concern correctly, once I install this "fix" I will NOT be able 
to use remote drive mounts..Is this correct?

Ideas/suggestions?   Oh, this is a machine that was upgraded from W2K to WXP!
Thanks,
Duncan


I'd have to say from the standpoint of security, since you live 100 miles 
from anyone else and have Gerbils for power generation the chance someone 
will be putting a bad USB stick into your system is low.  =)



I'm not 100% sure what information is stored in that mountpoints 
key/folder in the registry.  If I've read correctly (And I've messed up my 
reading in the past) it's just a cache of previous autoruns.  You can 
always export that registry key, delete it, then restart the computer and 
see if it has any problems.  Worst case you'd have to go into the recovery 
console and re-import the keys.



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Re: [H] Anyone see the CERT today about AUTORUN?

2009-01-21 Thread FORC5
you can always use ; in front of the key to disable it without deleting it for 
testing
fp

At 10:21 AM 1/21/2009, DHSinclair Poked the stick with:
>Chris,
>Thanks for this answer to Wayne's alternative.  I have read thru the doc 
>several times now.
>I'd really like to install this business, BUT I do have some concern about the 
>delete of the "moutpoints2" key.  I do not have a key, I have a Folder/Key.  
>And, it has very much inside it.
>I see keys for each of my installed I/O on the machine. This I get.  But, I 
>also see many {big hex #} keys also which I really do not wish to research 
>prior to deletion of the parent key.
>
>I do NOT yet use mountpoints for remote drives on my LAN yet.  If I read 
>Wayne's concern correctly, once I install this "fix" I will NOT be able to use 
>remote drive mounts..Is this correct?
>Ideas/suggestions?   Oh, this is a machine that was upgraded from W2K to WXP!
>Thanks,
>Duncan
>
>At 11:46 01/21/2009 -0500, you wrote:
>>On Wed, 21 Jan 2009, Wayne Johnson wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>I don't think I completely agree with this solution especially if you have a 
>>>lan.
>>>
>>>
Alternatively, the following registry key may be deleted:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\MountPoints2
>>>
>>>If one deletes this then won't they'll lose their mappoints for all the 
>>>other drives on the lan?
>>
>>It just deletes the autorun cache, not the mountpoints themselves.  Good if 
>>you're looking to get rid of any memorized autoruns.
>>
>>>
>>>I do have a reg file that I run that disabled autorun
>>>
>>>REGEDIT4
>>>
>>>[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\AutoplayHandlers\CancelAutoplay\Files]
>>>"*setup*.exe"=""
>>>"*instal*.exe"=""
>>>"*setup*.bat"=""
>>>"*instal*.bat"=""
>>>"*setup*.cmd"=""
>>>"*instal*.cmd"=""
>>>"*setup*.com"=""
>>>"*instal*.com"=""
>>>"Y?kle*"=""
>>>"Felrak.exe"=""
>>>"Imposta.exe"=""
>>>"KUR.exe"=""
>>>"Ayarla.exe"=""
>>>"sfc2.ico"=""
>>>"evanims"=""
>>>"0001.tmp"=""
>>>"updmoney.exe"=""
>>>"hs\\media\\y\\11399\\11399_cd_fp.jpg"=""
>>>"hs\\media\\y\\9953\\9953_cd_fp.jpg"=""
>>>"hs\\media\\y\\9951\\9951_cd_fp.jpg"=""
>>>"hs\\media\\y\\9964\\9964_cd_fp.jpg"=""
>>>"hs\\media\\y\\9968\\9968_cd_fp.jpg"=""
>>>"inf"=""
>>
>>That only stops what you can proactively stop.  If someone were to name their 
>>malicious autorun blahblahblah.exe then you're not stopping it.
>>
>>
>>Christopher Fisk
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Re: [H] Anyone see the CERT today about AUTORUN?

2009-01-21 Thread Christopher Fisk

On Wed, 21 Jan 2009, DHSinclair wrote:


Chris,
Thanks for this answer to Wayne's alternative.  I have read thru the doc 
several times now.
I'd really like to install this business, BUT I do have some concern about the 
delete of the "moutpoints2" key.  I do not have a key, I have a Folder/Key. 
And, it has very much inside it.
I see keys for each of my installed I/O on the machine. This I get.  But, I 
also see many {big hex #} keys also which I really do not wish to research 
prior to deletion of the parent key.


I do NOT yet use mountpoints for remote drives on my LAN yet.  If I read 
Wayne's concern correctly, once I install this "fix" I will NOT be able to use 
remote drive mounts..Is this correct?

Ideas/suggestions?   Oh, this is a machine that was upgraded from W2K to WXP!
Thanks,
Duncan


I'd have to say from the standpoint of security, since you live 100 miles 
from anyone else and have Gerbils for power generation the chance someone 
will be putting a bad USB stick into your system is low.  =)



I'm not 100% sure what information is stored in that mountpoints 
key/folder in the registry.  If I've read correctly (And I've messed up my 
reading in the past) it's just a cache of previous autoruns.  You can 
always export that registry key, delete it, then restart the computer and 
see if it has any problems.  Worst case you'd have to go into the recovery 
console and re-import the keys.



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Re: [H] Anyone see the CERT today about AUTORUN?

2009-01-21 Thread DHSinclair

Chris,
Thanks for this answer to Wayne's alternative.  I have read thru the doc 
several times now.
I'd really like to install this business, BUT I do have some concern about 
the delete of the "moutpoints2" key.  I do not have a key, I have a 
Folder/Key.  And, it has very much inside it.
I see keys for each of my installed I/O on the machine. This I get.  But, I 
also see many {big hex #} keys also which I really do not wish to research 
prior to deletion of the parent key.


I do NOT yet use mountpoints for remote drives on my LAN yet.  If I read 
Wayne's concern correctly, once I install this "fix" I will NOT be able to 
use remote drive mounts..Is this correct?

Ideas/suggestions?   Oh, this is a machine that was upgraded from W2K to WXP!
Thanks,
Duncan

At 11:46 01/21/2009 -0500, you wrote:

On Wed, 21 Jan 2009, Wayne Johnson wrote:




I don't think I completely agree with this solution especially if you 
have a lan.




Alternatively, the following registry key may be deleted:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\MountPoints2


If one deletes this then won't they'll lose their mappoints for all the 
other drives on the lan?


It just deletes the autorun cache, not the mountpoints themselves.  Good 
if you're looking to get rid of any memorized autoruns.




I do have a reg file that I run that disabled autorun

REGEDIT4

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\AutoplayHandlers\CancelAutoplay\Files]
"*setup*.exe"=""
"*instal*.exe"=""
"*setup*.bat"=""
"*instal*.bat"=""
"*setup*.cmd"=""
"*instal*.cmd"=""
"*setup*.com"=""
"*instal*.com"=""
"Y?kle*"=""
"Felrak.exe"=""
"Imposta.exe"=""
"KUR.exe"=""
"Ayarla.exe"=""
"sfc2.ico"=""
"evanims"=""
"0001.tmp"=""
"updmoney.exe"=""
"hs\\media\\y\\11399\\11399_cd_fp.jpg"=""
"hs\\media\\y\\9953\\9953_cd_fp.jpg"=""
"hs\\media\\y\\9951\\9951_cd_fp.jpg"=""
"hs\\media\\y\\9964\\9964_cd_fp.jpg"=""
"hs\\media\\y\\9968\\9968_cd_fp.jpg"=""
"inf"=""


That only stops what you can proactively stop.  If someone were to name 
their malicious autorun blahblahblah.exe then you're not stopping it.



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Re: [H] Anyone see the CERT today about AUTORUN?

2009-01-21 Thread Christopher Fisk

On Wed, 21 Jan 2009, Wayne Johnson wrote:




I don't think I completely agree with this solution especially if you have a 
lan.




Alternatively, the following registry key may be deleted:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\MountPoints2


If one deletes this then won't they'll lose their mappoints for all the other 
drives on the lan?


It just deletes the autorun cache, not the mountpoints themselves.  Good 
if you're looking to get rid of any memorized autoruns.




I do have a reg file that I run that disabled autorun

REGEDIT4

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\AutoplayHandlers\CancelAutoplay\Files]
"*setup*.exe"=""
"*instal*.exe"=""
"*setup*.bat"=""
"*instal*.bat"=""
"*setup*.cmd"=""
"*instal*.cmd"=""
"*setup*.com"=""
"*instal*.com"=""
"Y?kle*"=""
"Felrak.exe"=""
"Imposta.exe"=""
"KUR.exe"=""
"Ayarla.exe"=""
"sfc2.ico"=""
"evanims"=""
"0001.tmp"=""
"updmoney.exe"=""
"hs\\media\\y\\11399\\11399_cd_fp.jpg"=""
"hs\\media\\y\\9953\\9953_cd_fp.jpg"=""
"hs\\media\\y\\9951\\9951_cd_fp.jpg"=""
"hs\\media\\y\\9964\\9964_cd_fp.jpg"=""
"hs\\media\\y\\9968\\9968_cd_fp.jpg"=""
"inf"=""


That only stops what you can proactively stop.  If someone were to name 
their malicious autorun blahblahblah.exe then you're not stopping it.



Christopher Fisk
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Re: [H] Anyone see the CERT today about AUTORUN?

2009-01-21 Thread Christopher Fisk

On Wed, 21 Jan 2009, Wayne Johnson wrote:


At 08:54 AM 1/21/2009, Christopher Fisk typed:

TA09-020A

http://www.us-cert.gov/cas/techalerts/TA09-020A.html


I know a lot of the collective disable autorun, thought this would be useful 
for you.



I don't think I completely agree with this solution especially if you have a 
lan.




Alternatively, the following registry key may be deleted:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\MountPoints2


If one deletes this then won't they'll lose their mappoints for all the other 
drives on the lan?


I do have a reg file that I run that disabled autorun

REGEDIT4

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\AutoplayHandlers\CancelAutoplay\Files]
"*setup*.exe"=""
"*instal*.exe"=""
"*setup*.bat"=""
"*instal*.bat"=""
"*setup*.cmd"=""
"*instal*.cmd"=""
"*setup*.com"=""
"*instal*.com"=""
"Y?kle*"=""
"Felrak.exe"=""
"Imposta.exe"=""
"KUR.exe"=""
"Ayarla.exe"=""
"sfc2.ico"=""
"evanims"=""
"0001.tmp"=""
"updmoney.exe"=""
"hs\\media\\y\\11399\\11399_cd_fp.jpg"=""
"hs\\media\\y\\9953\\9953_cd_fp.jpg"=""
"hs\\media\\y\\9951\\9951_cd_fp.jpg"=""
"hs\\media\\y\\9964\\9964_cd_fp.jpg"=""
"hs\\media\\y\\9968\\9968_cd_fp.jpg"=""
"inf"=""


And then there is always using TweakUI to disable it.


I'm pretty sure the issue is that the autoplay feature can be susceptable 
to a buffer overrun, so it still reads the autorun.inf and if that is 
malformed can cause an issue (If I read it right).



Essentially, even with autorun turned off how Microsoft recommends it be 
turned off it still parses the autorun (To get things like the icon for 
the drive and stuff).



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Re: [H] Anyone see the CERT today about AUTORUN?

2009-01-21 Thread Naushad Zulfiqar
Quite interesting. Thanks for the heads up.

On Jan 21, 2009 4:54 PM, "Christopher Fisk"  wrote:

TA09-020A

http://www.us-cert.gov/cas/techalerts/TA09-020A.html


I know a lot of the collective disable autorun, thought this would be useful
for you.


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[H] Anyone see the CERT today about AUTORUN?

2009-01-21 Thread Christopher Fisk

TA09-020A

http://www.us-cert.gov/cas/techalerts/TA09-020A.html


I know a lot of the collective disable autorun, thought this would be 
useful for you.



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